WWarriors: Into the WWild

[WildZoo]

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Ok to summarize
- Barks' results told her she tracked pippy, but the person she tracked pippy to is not the person pippy says she targeted
- Mrs said that JJ was redirected to doggo n2, JJ said she doesn't know because her results are passive. This was conjecture on Mrs's part.
- doggo confirmed speaking with dead mel n2
- the dreams/amnesia appear to be the result of JJ's role, indicated that the "multiple possibilities" and waking with a bad feeling was tied to 3m

it descends into madness after this and I am getting a headache so stopping there

 

[Barkley13]

@Barkley13 how do I know you didn't lie about getting redirected

Pippy. Why on earth would I lie about that. How would it benefit me in any way to make that up

 

[PippyPony]

Ok to summarize
- Barks' results told her she tracked pippy, but the person she tracked pippy to is not the person pippy says she targeted
- Mrs said that JJ was redirected to doggo n2, JJ said she doesn't know because her results are passive. This was conjecture on Mrs's part.
- doggo confirmed speaking with dead mel n2
- the dreams/amnesia appear to be the result of JJ's role, indicated that the "multiple possibilities" and waking with a bad feeling was tied to 3m

it descends into madness after this and I am getting a headache so stopping there

You missed one thing: my role was stolen or redirected to AM N1, but not with the post restriction I wanted to send. On N1 I tried to give you the same thing you got N2.

And MrsDrDr seems to know who is redirected... except I kinda think someone in that whole JJ/Doggo/SOV/MrsDrDr mess is lying.

 

[Barkley13]

Honestly I'm just wondering if I tracked the person I was trying to track and it just told me it was pippy or what even happened

 

[PippyPony]

Pippy. Why on earth would I lie about that. How would it benefit me in any way to make that up

I have no idea, but I'm wondering if someone got their story mixed up somewhere along the way and is now trying to backtrack.

 

[WildZoo]

You missed one thing: my role was stolen or redirected to AM N1, but not with the post restriction I wanted to send. On N1 I tried to give you the same thing you got N2.

And MrsDrDr seems to know who is redirected... except I kinda think someone in that whole JJ/Doggo/SOV/MrsDrDr mess is lying.

You know it takes the fun out of it if you full reveal less than 10 minutes after I've figured out your role 😛
Has anyone else mentioned having their ability stolen?

 

[Barkley13]

I have no idea, but I'm wondering if someone got their story mixed up somewhere along the way and is now trying to backtrack.

Who would this someone be though? I even told you the weird wording I got with my results

 

[PippyPony]

You know it takes the fun out of it if you full reveal less than 10 minutes after I've figured out your role 😛
Has anyone else mentioned having their ability stolen?

Honestly I'm shocked you didn't figure it out sooner +/- I thought you were the one who took it 😛

I even put my name in your example sentences! 😉

 

[WildZoo]

Honestly I'm shocked you didn't figure it out sooner +/- I thought you were the one who took it 😛

I even put my name in your example sentences! 😉

You were on the shortlist lol I think your example sentences got changed though

 

[PippyPony]

Who would this someone be though? I even told you the weird wording I got with my results

 

[PippyPony]

Side note: @CoffeeQuestionMark did a great job -- I was giggling all day

 

[WildZoo]

Yeah I just checked and the example sentence used my name and sporty's name. Guess they didn't want me to know it was you 😛

 

[WildZoo]

Before I sleep
I've seen multiple people say they're reading sunbodi village because of her behavior. I think that's bunk. If you have that meta as a villager, why the hell would you do anything different as a wolf? It would be obvious, and you'd miss out on a chance to drive the village bat****. I will not be accepting village reads there based on that alone.

 

[PippyPony]

Before I sleep
I've seen multiple people say they're reading sunbodi village because of her behavior. I think that's bunk. If you have that meta as a villager, why the hell would you do anything different as a wolf? It would be obvious, and you'd miss out on a chance to drive the village bat****. I will not be accepting village reads there based on that alone.

I moved her village because of the defeatism, not the wild swings.

Also not ruling her out, but I am not sure about this sudden reversal from you either, tbh

 

[PippyPony]

I'm even more firmly convinced that whoever is doing the "shenanigans" redirecting/whatever is not village. This stuff could have been easily resolved tonight if they said who they redirected.

On that note...

@JJ Bittenbinder there was something that caught my eye way way back -- you said that you didn't believe AM could only post in memes/gifs when she was restricted. It was a very oddly certain statement.

You sure you aren't lying through your teeth about your role? Because that was actually not the only inconsistency I found when I went back and looked at your claims earlier.

Naughty naughty nooblet if you are actually the one who is causing this amnesia through a redirection and now lying to people about it.

 

[SnowshoeDog143]

Naughty naughty nooblet if you are actually the one who is causing this amnesia through a redirection and now lying to people about it.

This is what Mrs, bc and I were discussing... Everyone who JJ saw in her visions had amnesia the next day. I think. So probably either she is remembering something they forgot or she is taking their memories.

 

[StartingoverVet]

I'm even more firmly convinced that whoever is doing the "shenanigans" redirecting/whatever is not village. This stuff could have been easily resolved tonight if they said who they redirected.

On that note...

@JJ Bittenbinder there was something that caught my eye way way back -- you said that you didn't believe AM could only post in memes/gifs when she was restricted. It was a very oddly certain statement.

You sure you aren't lying through your teeth about your role? Because that was actually not the only inconsistency I found when I went back and looked at your claims earlier.

Naughty naughty nooblet if you are actually the one who is causing this amnesia through a redirection and now lying to people about it.

The shenanigans seems different from the redirection. The mod message for the redirect was “you just end up at xxxx instead”.
So looks like one role changes results, and another changes destination?

 

[StartingoverVet]

although we should look for originals, I am convinced sun is a wolf.

mods said writeups would give info so that is what I read this morning since I just can’t keep up with all his posting and have any meaningful memory of the interactions.

A queen went into labor late in the night. The sky outside her den lit up with lightning and no medicine cats were anywhere to be found -- they must have been off helping another cat. She sighed and nursed her first kit, praying to StarClan that she wouldn't need help for the remaining.

Welcome back @genny and @Sunbodi.

So, this write up for some reason differentiates between the first and second kitten. I think that is a hint.
sunbodi is listed second.
sunbodi is creating confusion all over the place.
yes, I might be reading into it, but a player who loves disinformation is a particular menace as a wolf.

 

[Future_equine_vet]

although we should look for originals, I am convinced sun is a wolf.

mods said writeups would give info so that is what I read this morning since I just can’t keep up with all his posting and have any meaningful memory of the interactions.



So, this write up for some reason differentiates between the first and second kitten. I think that is a hint.
sunbodi is listed second.
sunbodi is creating confusion all over the place.
yes, I might be reading into it, but a player who loves disinformation is a particular menace as a wolf.

I completely agree that the write-up differentiates between the first and second kit, which negative connotations for the second one. However, I don't think the rezzer played are listed in order as first kit and second kit on purpose. By all means, Sunbodi might be a wolf and I'm not denying that, but I don't think we should focus just on that. The fact that he's throwing out misinformation is much more of a convincing argument, which I mentioned yesterday is also weird to me because it just ended up confusing everyone, which is not of benefit when we're trying to find the wolves

 

[StartingoverVet]

I completely agree that the write-up differentiates between the first and second kit, which negative connotations for the second one. However, I don't think the rezzer played are listed in order as first kit and second kit on purpose. By all means, Sunbodi might be a wolf and I'm not denying that, but I don't think we should focus just on that. The fact that he's throwing out misinformation is much more of a convincing argument, which I mentioned yesterday is also weird to me because it just ended up confusing everyone, which is not of benefit when we're trying to find the wolves

It’s the 2 pieces of info together for me.

 

[StartingoverVet]

@Barkley13 , when you outed yourself as a tracker, you were asked who you tracked and you answered “Alissa said that this morning” or something like that. What did you mean? I can’t find any post from Alissa mentioning tracking. why didn’t you just directly answer the question?

 

[WildZoo]

I moved her village because of the defeatism, not the wild swings.

Also not ruling her out, but I am not sure about this sudden reversal from you either, tbh

The defeatism sounded fake/jokey to me tbh. What reversal?

 

[JJ Bittenbinder]

I'm even more firmly convinced that whoever is doing the "shenanigans" redirecting/whatever is not village. This stuff could have been easily resolved tonight if they said who they redirected.

On that note...

@JJ Bittenbinder there was something that caught my eye way way back -- you said that you didn't believe AM could only post in memes/gifs when she was restricted. It was a very oddly certain statement.

You sure you aren't lying through your teeth about your role? Because that was actually not the only inconsistency I found when I went back and looked at your claims earlier.

Naughty naughty nooblet if you are actually the one who is causing this amnesia through a redirection and now lying to people about it.

Yeah I’m sure, literally the only info I have is what I’m giving to everybody. I wasn’t expecting players to actually receive a notice that they met me bc my action is passive but I guess they do.

Unless my role does something crazy that I don’t even know about which seems unlikely to me.

And yeah I thought I was sure AM was lying because at the time I thought she was a wolf, and I could see the benefit of post restricting yourself to avoid detection and make it look like village. I got everyone’s arguments against that though, they made sense to me. Also I think it had already been a discussion and I was way behind bc the posts went over my head.

Btw I’m interested in the inconsistencies you are saying that you see

 

[mmmdreamerz]

Comes to catch up this morning....realizes there's 6 PAGES from just before lynch to now

*cries*

 

[JJ Bittenbinder]

This is what Mrs, bc and I were discussing... Everyone who JJ saw in her visions had amnesia the next day. I think. So probably either she is remembering something they forgot or she is taking their memories.

Could it also just be a narrative thing that they didn’t want the narrative from the visits to out me? Like if they have amnesia they can’t remember the person they initially recognized as visiting them. Does it usually have an actual mechanistic value in the other games?

 

[WildZoo]

I'm taking paws's decision to sub out of consideration because it sounds like she is stretched thin irl and that's why she was leaving, not as an actual ragequit. We'll see what lawper does. Dolphin i need to iso later, not going there until i do that because I don't remember where my pings there came from. 3m moved up with JJ's info.

Cats that Howl
Paws/lawper
dolphin
3m
Mrs

Fans of Moonlight
caiter
sunbodi
wondering
BC

Evasive Kittens
genny
alissa

Friendly Felines
snowy
doggo
eriyo
SOV
barks

Purrrrrfect
JJ
pippy
AM
cubs
Kota

~Discuss~

 

[PippyPony]

Yeah I’m sure, literally the only info I have is what I’m giving to everybody. I wasn’t expecting players to actually receive a notice that they met me bc my action is passive but I guess they do.

Unless my role does something crazy that I don’t even know about which seems unlikely to me.

And yeah I thought I was sure AM was lying because at the time I thought she was a wolf, and I could see the benefit of post restricting yourself to avoid detection and make it look like village. I got everyone’s arguments against that though, they made sense to me. Also I think it had already been a discussion and I was way behind bc the posts went over my head.

Btw I’m interested in the inconsistencies you are saying that you see

I don't even know anymore -- you sound fine to me when I go back and iso your posts after like D1/D2, and those early ones are maybe kinda weird just because you're brand new

I think I'll have better luck with this cardiovascular train wreck of a practice anesthesia case than with this game right now tbh lol

 

[WildZoo]

cardiovascular train wreck of a practice anesthesia case

This is relevant to my interestssss

 

[PippyPony]

This is relevant to my interestssss

(same, it's actually really fun -- I'll ping you about it later)

 

[Lawpy]

And we're back

To a lot of pages and after 14+ hours of sleep 😴

 

[Lawpy]

So my rough initial reads for wolves are SOV, barky, MDD, Caits.

I'm not sure what happened yesterday but i feel the barky lynch was warranted from what i read

Contingency lynch barky

 

[Lawpy]

Sunbodi where is that paraphrase

and no "she didn't react a certain way when I said she was the one who killed me" does not count as confirmation

I lied haha.

...... what is your problem

Are you going to forget how I saved you using this tactic in soccer?

I did say you owed me one. Consider your debt paid xD

Uh you definitely didn't lie to save me in soccer

Uh yeah I did. I said I knew 100% that barks was a wolf. XD

Like seriously Sunbodi this is how you lose any and all cred. I know your tactics have worked before but repeatedly pulling stunts like this is going to make everyone stop believing you even when you're actually telling the truth.

Hmm

 

[Animal Midwife]

Contingency Lynch SOV

 

[WildZoo]

i feel the barky lynch was warranted from what i read

How?

 

[Barkley13]

The shenanigans seems different from the redirection. The mod message for the redirect was “you just end up at xxxx instead”.
So looks like one role changes results, and another changes destination?

The message I got sounded like redirection. It basically said that I ended up tracking pippy instead which is why I originally thought that I was redirected but then I talked to pippy and it turned out that’s not what actually happened

@Barkley13 , when you outed yourself as a tracker, you were asked who you tracked and you answered “Alissa said that this morning” or something like that. What did you mean? I can’t find any post from Alissa mentioning tracking. why didn’t you just directly answer the question?

Earlier that morning Alissa mentioned that she had been tracked and there was a discussion on her outing the tracker so that’s what I meant

 

[Barkley13]

Hmm

Still feel like it’s warranted?

 

[Lawpy]

How?

Was thinking based on this post

BARKS SAID SHE TRACKED ME BUT SHE DID NOT IN FACT ACTUALLY TRACK ME

SO THERE ARE EITHER SHENANIGANS OR SHE'S LYING ABOUT SOMETHING EASILY CHECKED

shiz is getting lost in the thread jfc

Sunbodis posts also seemed valid but hard to make of that when she said she lied later on. At that time, it felt a reasonable counterwagon to the coffee lynch and i'm not sure what barky posts push her less wolfy.

 

[Lawpy]

Still feel like it’s warranted?

A little less so but trying to make sense of the pippy post.

 

[Lawpy]

I don't think sunbodis lying makes her a wolf though

 

[Barkley13]

A little less so but trying to make sense of the pippy post.

For the last time
Why would I make that up?! There’s literally no benefit to me going to pippy saying “hey I was redirected to track you yesterday. You visited this person” if that’s not what my results actually said

 

[Lawpy]

For the last time
Why would I make that up?! There’s literally no benefit to me going to pippy saying “hey I was redirected to track you yesterday. You visited this person” if that’s not what my results actually said

Then explain gently to the following:

Wait why is it bad if barks tracked you pippy?

It's not bad but she didn't track me.

Okay now I'm confused at the situation. Going to go back and read through the end of lynch to figure it out.

She said she got redirected from her original target onto me

That was false, because I received no tracking notification like Alissa did, and when I asked Barks to confirm who she saw me visit, she gave me the wrong name of a player, so I know she didn't actually track me

I'm the post restrictor which I thought was pretty obvious, so you all can literally see who I target, and the name she gave me wasn't Coffee.

N1 someone who was NOT me got up to shenanigans and I woke up not remembering, and then AM shows up with a meme post restriction the next morning.

You were trying to argue that particular use of the ability was village.

I strongly disagree.

 

[Barkley13]

Then explain gently to the following:

I have multiple times
My results said I tracked pippy. I did not track pippy. Someone messed with my results.

 

[Lawpy]

Ok going to think about this a bit more

Contingency unlynch barky
Contingency lynch Caits

 

[deleted804295]

I can get behind a cait lynch. I've been saying since D1 (when I was a confirmed villager) that she is a wolf. I still believe she is one.

Now going to log out for the rest of the day until village gets its act together.

Lynch caiter92

 

[Kota1000]

I dont even know anymore, I feel like I should ISO SOV since I haven't done that yet, but I also feel like I should ISO barks and its so much work :sigh:

suggestions on who I should ISO first?

 

[WildZoo]

I dont even know anymore, I feel like I should ISO SOV since I haven't done that yet, but I also feel like I should ISO barks and its so much work :sigh:

suggestions on who I should ISO first?

Tbh I kind of think they're both fine and you should look elsewhere. But SOV has fewer posts so that one would be faster at least.

 

[PippyPony]

I dont even know anymore, I feel like I should ISO SOV since I haven't done that yet, but I also feel like I should ISO barks and its so much work :sigh:

suggestions on who I should ISO first?

I'm feeling better about Barks based on this reaction

I got worried yesterday because it seemed like she was avoiding the thread after PMing me, but overall acknowledgement of it now and her reaction to Sunbodi yesterday make me think she is ok

 

[Kota1000]

Okay, thanks [mention]PippyPony [/mention] and [mention]WildZoo [/mention] maybe I’ll ISO Alissa and genny today since they have a lot of posts and they are in my neutral pile at the moment.

 

[SportPonies]

Night 4 (I totally titled yesterday's write up wrong)

Sorry guys. Your mods are struggling as much you are.

Dead is @Barkley13 - Crowfeather, tracker​

The Roster
1. @mmmdreamerz
2. @Animal Midwife
3. @Kota1000
4. @Eriyo
5. @JJ Bittenbinder
7. @WildZoo
8. @BigCats
9. @SnowshoeDog143
10. @WonderingStudent
11. @MrsDrDr
14. @alissa14
15. @cubsrule4e
19. @Caiter92
20. @PippyPony
21. @Lawper
23. @Doggo Labs
24. @StartingoverVet
26. @dolphin106258
12. @Sunbodi
6. @genny

Starclan:
2.5 @Melchizedek- Spottedleaf, Sacrificial lamb + ?????
22. @Dinashadow - Twolegs, Chaos vig/poisoner/role name seer
Anywhere. @Ms Procrastinator - Princess, passive day silencer
17. @ziggyandjazzy - Tallpoppy, Neighbor
16. @CoffeeQuestionMark - Smudge, PMer
13. @Barkley13 - Crowfeather, tracker

It is now Day 5 and more people need to die​

 

[Kota1000]

unlynch Sun
Sorry I contingency lynched you, I think I was just frustrated. But It would be great to keep the YELLING to a minimum. I still think you might be a wolf, but I’m not as concerned about lynching a rezzed wolf then lynching a OG.

Now then,
lunch Dubz
I have remarked multiple times why I think Dubz is wolfy. I can restate those reasons or look for new ones if anyone questions me, but I am putting my lynch here for now.

I am going to do some ISOing today, probably on Alissa and maybe Genny since they are sitting sorta neutral and genny was rezzed. Also maybe SOV if I have time.

Also, I will no longer be participating in the last hour lynch fest as far as switching my lynch (I will still post and comment on stuff) because it hasn’t gotten us anywhere. And if anyone has any useful information to share please do it before 1 hour to close, it would make this so much easier. Thanks for my brief PSA