eh, why not. been right more often than not lately.
yeet cheeze
Did you mean right about Mr. Cheezy specifically, or right about your reads in general?
Mr. Cheesy. Really I just did it for the wedding couple who wanted more fights. Have my reads been any good lately? I do remember the one game I was pretty on target, but not sure which others.
I feel like this comes up later so throwing it in here now. Bolding in the 3rd post is mine - to emphasize that cubs had stated that he'd been right about Mel "more often than not lately" and then started to walk it back a bit.
Edit: ok if it did come up later, I didn't pull the quotes from that exchange, but I don't think it matters.
Real but exaggerating a la how Dubz always makes some introductory hello post that people debate over. I dont feel like Dina usually does that kinda stuff, especially in the middle of the game already. Stood out to me.
This point he was trying to make on Dina felt weaksauce and stretchy to me. That being said, I've ISOed village!cubs before and come out on specific posts thinking he was incredibly stretchy and wolfy sometimes. I'll have to go through all of it and decide if the amount of posts that seem wolfy crosses the line to being too wolfy to be a wolf - that's helped me come to the right read on him before. The "middle of the game" comment and then irritation when multiple people called him out for it is the kind of thing that starts to fall under TWTBW, honestly.
Because the mods asked for more fighting so I threw down the Mel vote saying that voting him has been more right than wrong recently (as a joke). Then that got people all looking into how many games and how many times he’s wolfed as if it were serious. So I just removed the vote so as not to cause further issue.
cubs will dismiss sketchy things as jokes as both affiliations, so this got my attention, but it's not AI.
I’m not really seeing the PleezIt sketch even in the iso much but will be interesting to see how she defends since she is very often a village read.
This didn't age well. And I already mentioned that the end part is kind of weird since she's not someone I would say has a history of getting a strong village read early and easily.
I feel like usually being village read early in a game most all the time she doesn’t ever have to defend much. Wondering how she’ll respond being in the lead on D1
Not really
Not really having any wolf reads 3.5 hours to yeet close feels kind of strange for someone whose D1 reads have been solid in recent games.
Im rereading these interactions since the cray post and they do seem out of place, especially the "sounds like village genny." I dont know how much hes played with her, but never when I was around. First time I think Ive played with Philo
First time he starts sussing Sloth, and I think it's a valid point. Sloth's willingness to put genny as one of her 3 village leans, with the same reasoning that she gave when genny was a wolf, was surprising to me.
Well ive got village reads on PleezIt, AM, and shorty so I guess Ill vote for one of the other 2 on the wagon cause I dont have much else right now.
vote bread
I don't really understand why he was village reading please, he never says anything about that to this point.
What are you seeing in please's posts that's enough to village read her?
I guess its kinda like innocent until proven guilty. I dont see anything incriminating, 4 people feel strongly enough to vote for her, I dont see what theyre seeing, so by default I guess I lean her village or at worst neutral.
And then I pushed him on it and got kind of an unsatisfactory answer. OTOH, I got an answer very similar to this from someone in the hydra game, and I KNOW they're village, so... it could just be a different way of looking at the game? But I thought her tonal differences as a wolf were pretty striking, personally.
Those wagons werent really there until I moved to bread and made the comment that things seemed too be going too easy on the pleez vote. So not only do I still think there was possibly a wolf at the end of the pleasy wagon (bread, dina who were locked in at that point), Im looking at people like zenge and cray who moved/voted after I made the comment, especially since sloth made some sketchy comments which gave an opportunistic place to vote. Then theres also sloth herself who made the 5th vote on what at the time looked like a runaway pleez vote 5-2-2. Barks had already placed a sloth vote, then zenge and cray jumped on in pretty rapid succession. Also the way Zenge said "yeah, thats too much for me" when he made the vote struck me as odd. I didnt like alleys back and forth, completely agreeing with shorty on her ISO of Pleez' and her wolfstyle being similar and then a few posts later complete hedge sentence of "im concerned people are ganging up on please, but I can see where theyre coming from," and then after all of those comments decides to vote Mel.
I didn't like this post this morning, still don't like it tonight. It feels flaily and like he's throwing sus in all directions to see where it might stick - Zenge? Cray? Bread? Dina? Alley? Sloth?
vote sloth
Being the final vote on please late in the cycle bugs me, reminds me when strog did the exact same thing on a wolf partner the last time he wolfed.
In a world where Sloth is a wolf, I just don't know that I see wolf!cubs coming out of the gate D2 bussing this hard. I'm just not sure if I think Sloth is a wolf yet.
village - shorty, AM, barks
neutral to lean village - Mel, cyndia, genny
neutral to lean wolf - bread, dina
a little wolfier - cray, alley
even wolfier - Sloth
wolfiest - spooky ghost
I didn't mind this reads list this morning, but I dislike it a little more now. My main issue with it being the bottom half in general, and Dina and alley's placements in particular.
-opportunistic late vote onto sloth
-pushing early cubs sketch, recent village games had her wanting me around
This reasoning for Cray's placement felt kind of weak to me.
-i figured it was the content, not sure what length would have to do with it.
- barks backed my alley eval
- the sloth move is not an out of this world tinfoil but a very real possibility
- the zenge, cray votes felt opportunistic, never said it made them wolves
Barks is historically not good at reading alley. And I don't know why Zenge and Cray's votes would be opportunistic when the general consensus was that Sloth was being sketchy, and some people were concerned about the prospect of a please/Sloth pack dynamic.
-No buys that you were a wolf in that recent game but it happened
-read the list, she is not even in my bottom 2 categories, other places to go, people to yeet
This bothered me quite a bit because people not wolf reading me in my last game isn't really relevant here. Bussing please wouldn't fit Dina's wolf meta AT ALL and I think there's a 0.0000000000000001% chance that was ever a bus. Trying to make a tinfoil that Dina could have bussed please, especially given how Dina has been playing this game, is weak.
There you go
@Animal Midwife . However she did it in the sketchiest way possible. She could have just written the first paragraph. Instead she added the second to throw shade somewhere because she doesnt have any other viable wolf read now.
I'm not sure why he's suddenly coming after Cyndia so hard when he has her in his neutral to village category.
