2011-2012 Harvard Application Thread

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For current students:

If we are already thinking of a field we'd be interested in doing research (I'm in NP), what is the best time to try and seek out a potential PI who would take us up?

Should we wait until August when we're in Boston and can maybe get credentials from an advisor or professor?

I'd like to start on research early, but feel an email at this point might be inappropriate.
 
EleanorAutumn said:
For current students:

If we are already thinking of a field we'd be interested in doing research (I'm in NP), what is the best time to try and seek out a potential PI who would take us up?

Should we wait until August when we're in Boston and can maybe get credentials from an advisor or professor?

I'd like to start on research early, but feel an email at this point might be inappropriate.
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Some of my classmates were doing research here over the summer before school. You can start whenever you like. You'll be required to find some sort of preliminary PI during first semester. Early emails are not inappropriate.

ElCapone said:
That still sounds awful, but I'll take that any day over 240K* before interest.
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My thoughts exactly.
 
I have had some difficulty finding an academic calendar for the 12-13 year. Has anyone found one?
 
chronicidal said:
There have been 74 clicks on that link in four days. I take this to mean there are tons of Harvard admits lurking on SDN.
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Everyone has at least heard of SDN. Most people won't/don't post (much).

I clicked b/c I thought you were actually hosting the calendar. I thought it was only available to admitted students through mycourses (or the pre-matric website), which is not available to waitlistees. After googling it myself, I was wrong.

Instead of being a jerk and going through the trouble of creating another one of those "google this" links, you could have just linked the file yourself, though.
 
About Harvard's innovative, integrated clerkship program at the Cambridge Health Alliance. 8-12 students a year get to take part in that. Paper here. Coverage in the NYTimes here.

What's interesting and relevant to more people is the data from the control group, a sample of students who were in the normal clerkship program at HMS from 2004-2007. In case anyone wanted to compare themselves to the main group of HMS students:

Average Step 2 CK score: 234.14 (mean score of US seniors who matched in 2007: 226; 75th percentile: 241; beware of comparisons today because in 2011 the mean of matched seniors is 235 -- there has been upward creep of scores)

NBME shelf exams (all designed with national mean of 70 and a standard deviation of 8):
pediatrics: 74.79.
surgery: 73.33.
ob/gyn: 71.73.
psychiatry: 64.34

% reporting that they received feedback on clinical performance: 33%
% reporting that they received one-on-one mentoring: 30%
 
I have a quick question about research support at HMS. I know that HST has money set aside (around 16k per semester?) for RAships for their students. Does New Pathway have any kind of research support/stipend for term-time research? If so, how much is it usually per semester, and what is the application process? Thanks!
 
cheesebanana said:
I have a quick question about research support at HMS. I know that HST has money set aside (around 16k per semester?) for RAships for their students. Does New Pathway have any kind of research support/stipend for term-time research? If so, how much is it usually per semester, and what is the application process? Thanks!
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The HMS Scholars in Medicine Office (SMO) provides matching funding for term time (part-time) research experiences at up to $12/hour ($6 from SMO, $6 from the mentor) to a maximum of 10 hours per week. If the field does not permit shared funding (e.g. not grant-based research), then SMO can cover the entire stipend.

The 16k you're thinking of are full-time positions. HST funding for part-time (standard, 25% time) research assistantship:
Benefit: $6,728 per semester; about two-thirds ($4364) must go towards your tuition, you get some as stipend ($2364), and some goes to MIT overhead. Let's say you work 10 hours a week for 14 weeks per semester.
The caveat: Your PI funds $5000. So you'd have to find a PI willing to pony up $5000 for you to get paid at all under this regime?
 
Math Requirement for New Pathway applicants:

Did anyone use 1 semester/quarter of CALCULUS and 1 semester/quarter of STATS to meet the math requirement? Or are they strict on that policy? Thanks for any help.
 
Hey guys, I am a non-trad student and I want to ask for some suggestions for my application to HMS. I am international and current doing my 4th year PhD in Biomedical science in a top US university. I attended a top three college in China (GPA 3.9/4.0, No.1 in the major of Biology). For my PhD, I have published 3 first-author papers in top journals and another 2 in revision.In the lab I have mentored 4 undergrads/lab assistants and prepared two research grants for my adviser. I have extensive collaborations with clinicians and shadowed one of them for four months. My MCAT is 36 (with high science but low verbal scores), have done medical and non-medical volunteering.
I was looking for information about HMS's policy for international students but couldn't find any useful for people like me. Does the committee consider applicants like me who don't have a Bachelor's degree got in North America? Thanks!
 
Woodchuck said:
Hey guys, I am a non-trad student and I want to ask for some suggestions for my application to HMS. I am international and current doing my 4th year PhD in Biomedical science in a top US university. I attended a top three college in China (GPA 3.9/4.0, No.1 in the major of Biology). For my PhD, I have published 3 first-author papers in top journals and another 2 in revision.In the lab I have mentored 4 undergrads/lab assistants and prepared two research grants for my adviser. I have extensive collaborations with clinicians and shadowed one of them for four months. My MCAT is 36 (with high science but low verbal scores), have done medical and non-medical volunteering.
I was looking for information about HMS's policy for international students but couldn't find any useful for people like me. Does the committee consider applicants like me who don't have a Bachelor's degree got in North America? Thanks!
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Harvard accepts international students (defined at non-green card holders).

It is difficult for international students to get into ANY medical school. ESPECIALLY if you did your undergraduate overseas (excluding Canada). Even if you did your undergrad at Beida, the education is different than what you get in the US. However, private schools are easier on international students than public schools, relatively speaking. For example, some public schools don't even consider international students. However you look at it though, it's a hard battle. It's nice that you've published so much and you've had experience, but you will really need to justify why you want to go into medicine. Having a low verbal score also doesn't help. It's one of the reasons why international students aren't favored. In medicine, a huge component is communication. There is already so much misunderstanding between doctors and patients. If a doctor doesn't have mastery over their verbal skills (as the verbal section is "supposed" to measure), think how many more problems can occur.

There are a lot of barriers, not to mention the expense is gigantic. Good luck.
 
Anyone know if there has been any waitlist movement yet/ what the prospects are for waitlisted students? Thanks!
 
Did you get the e-mail they sent out today? I guess they started taking people off the waitlist.
 
What'd the e-mail say? What makes you think they started taking people off the waitlist?
 
The email merely said they'd start reviewing waitlist files shortly - no indication that the process has already started. It was more a reminder for people to withdraw from the waitlist if they aren't interested.
 
ncrassa said:
The email merely said they'd start reviewing waitlist files shortly - no indication that the process has already started. It was more a reminder for people to withdraw from the waitlist if they aren't interested.
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I believe there was an indication that the process has already started. The e-mail says, "I expect the majority of wait list offers to be made between today and July 1st." This means that they could have started offering yesterday (when the e-mail was sent).
 
FemaleWoman, I just took it as the general time frame of waitlist acceptances.

Chronicidal, the email was specifically for NP.
 
ncrassa said:
FemaleWoman, I just took it as the general time frame of waitlist acceptances.

Chronicidal, the email was specifically for NP.
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Yes, I interpreted it as they are already starting. I mean, they did say specifically that they are starting "today." It is more than "no indication that the process has already started."

Anyway, it makes sense that they would have already put out offers since they have known for about a week already how many spots they need to fill. I am sure they are eager to confirm a full NP class.

I've resigned hope of an offer! Although there are some people who would turn down Harvard off the waitlist, I imagine it would be pretty rare. Overall I'm just grateful I can go to medical school.
 
Hey, I'm an incoming first year, and I just wanted to give those of you on the wait list a word of encouragement. At revisit there were MANY people who were still unsure, and many more that were sure that they weren't going to HMS. I know about 10 people, just off the top of my head, who chose other schools. Also, we haven't received our email addresses and logins yet. They won't send these until they fill the class. The class should be filled in the next week or two, so there is still hope if this is where you want to be.
 
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