This analysis is incorrect. Second column in table is "accepted" applicant. Number of A's handed out is 20559 vs. 23008 at same time last year. Very poor labeling by AAMC.
I'm just confused on where you got that 9,000 number from?
12,613 individuals held at least one A as of 2/8. There were 21,625 US-MD MS1 seats last year. 21,625-12,613=9,012 additional people who will have at least one A by the time all the schools begin classes this summer.
Yeah. Nice observation. Sounds like more transcripts per applicant. Any conclusions you'd like to share? I have my own thoughts, but I'd not sure people will appreciate them coming from a lowly premed, so I'd love to hear your thoughts as a respected, experienced adcom.
But, that happens every year. He's asking why 13% more applications were started, 18% more applications were submitted, but a whopping 72% more transcripts were received? On its face, it seems incongruent.
To be honest, not coping well. This is my second cycle. Waitlisted at my top choice for the second time. It’s really damaging to your spirit to have worked this hard and been through so much just to be told you aren’t good enough. So far, the only thing that has given me any sort of comfort has been talking to people here on the SDN who really know how hard this is and have shared experience. I urge you to reach out to any kind of support you have and talk through things. Aside from that, always ALWAYS hope for the best, but plan for the worst so you can set yourself up for success moving forward.
I feel like by default anybody who puts themselves through this bs does not qualify as sane (aka all of us). I forgot what unadulterated sanity feels like after I hit submit on AMCAS.
Totally. Some will be transparent but, unfortunately, many will not tell you anything.
On 5 WLs currently with two more most likely coming. Honestly not doing amazing but life goes on, trying to figure out if I'm gonna apply this summer or wait. This was my 3rd time already. Just trying to hang with friends/family/do the things I love so things feel normal.
Many (most?) schools have an unranked waitlist. Thus, at this point, there is nothing to tell.
IMO, the most important metric for assessing year-over-year changes in applicant volume is completed secondaries - does this data exist? Without the completed secondaries benchmark, you can't really meaningfully speculate on the overall applicant picture.
In general, it doesn't happen! The "C" in CTE stands for "Commit." Under the rules (guidelines) you are supposed to withdraw from ALL WLs when you select CTE. If the CTE school learns that you did not, your acceptance could be rescinded. In addition, if the WL schools are playing by the rules, they will kick you off the WL when they see you have selected CTE elsewhere, as they will be able to see beginning on 4/30.
You really in every thread huh
Not quite, but, there are a few that deal with the same issues over and over and over and over. Having taken the time to educate myself in these areas, I am happy to provide answers over and over and over and over. 🙂
No. Read this:
CTE dates are all over the place. After your CTE deadline, plenty of people could theoretically still be on those WLs while being PTE somewhere, which is totally unfair to people like you. It's definitely not just for people with no As. That's not until the very end, after classes have begun in most of the country, just like you'd expect.
It's probably going off-topic, but 4/30 is PTE and 6/30 is CTE, commonly used by AMCAS, I thought. No?
No. Most, but not all, schools require you to reduce to one A and select PTE by 4/30. CTE dates are all over the place, and are determined STRICTLY by the schools. AMCAS recommends that it be 3 weeks before orientation, but it can be whenever schools decide, and some schools set it as early as 4/30, as I noted in my quote above.
Is there a list floating around on SDN with those dates?
Maybe, but don't rely on it. You have 2 As!!!! Go directly to the source and get the most accurate, up to date information!!!!!!
Ok - will reach out. Hope the CTE is August!!!
The ethical schools set it 3 weeks before orientation, so start with that. Most schools have a timeline on their admissions websites, so you shouldn't have to actually personally reach out to anyone. Schools do start anywhere from June-August, so that drives some of the disparity, but, some schools do just go out of their way to screw you over by forcing you to commit early and drop all WLs, so be careful. I am pretty sure your schools are not dicks when it comes to this, so you should be reasonably okay.
Ahhhh, hard relate! Here's to both of us getting in sometime soon!
Same here! 6 II, just had 2 WL and one R rolling in today so just sitting back and praying that at least one school wants me... 😔😔😔 now I understand why ppl say this process is hell...
I'm surprised. You sound like a strong candidate. First of all --- if the WL doesn't come through and you have to apply again, apply very broadly. It can really be a numbers game. Maybe 30-35 schools and hit a lot of mid-tiers. Second, make certain that your writing (PS and secondaries) is stellar. Good luck with coming off that WL!
Holy s**t!!!! I was about to write a post lecturing you about limiting yourself to T20s, but I went back and saw from your WAMC post that you did everything right. What do you think happened????????????
near identical stats and international (grew up here though which makes the pain even worse lol). I applied on the first day and submitted secondaries within a week of receiving them so I was lucky enough to get multiple IIs but they all led to WLs...the process is brutal for everybody but I think it especially harder for internationals since a lot of state schools aren't open for us
You pointed out something really interesting... the international part, and that has kinda shed some light on my situation. Also very similar stats, submitted on day one, but I grew up overseas (although am a US citizen). Fun fact, even though my parents paid taxes to the state I'm attending undergrad in for the past 20 years, I STILL am OOS for that state (and every other state in the US too!). Got zero love from the state schools in that state 🙁--gotta love the IS/OOS politics...
