2020-2021 Waitlist Support Thread

Discover Your Odds of Getting into Medical School
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Not trying to be a downer but today's been hard. I've been trying to hold on to some hope for my WLs, while working on my reapp and being optimistic about reapplying, but today I'm just not feeling it, and I just feel crushed. I'm feeling dread and embarrassment about having to reapply, frustration and sadness at not getting in, and....I hate to admit it but...jealousy of my friends who got in who themselves agree they had very similar apps and got fewer interviews.

It's hard to feel like my dreams, my passions, and the way I want to make a difference in the world are all being held by this process while to adcoms I'm just another number. Even with holistic reviews it's still just hours of experiences.

I'm still gonna keep going with my reapp but today just feels so heavy.

And before someone says that if this is too hard than I'm not cut out to be a doctor please don't....you don't know my story.
 
Otterly said:
Not trying to be a downer but today's been hard. I've been trying to hold on to some hope for my WLs, while working on my reapp and being optimistic about reapplying, but today I'm just not feeling it, and I just feel crushed. I'm feeling dread and embarrassment about having to reapply, frustration and sadness at not getting in, and....I hate to admit it but...jealousy of my friends who got in who themselves agree they had very similar apps and got fewer interviews.

It's hard to feel like my dreams, my passions, and the way I want to make a difference in the world are all being held by this process while to adcoms I'm just another number. Even with holistic reviews it's still just hours of experiences.

I'm still gonna keep going with my reapp but today just feels so heavy.

And before someone says that if this is too hard than I'm not cut out to be a doctor please don't....you don't know my story.
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Yea I feel you. It's so hard when everyone around you has no idea how much you busted your ass for 4+ years, how much you sacrificed to get to where you are, and how difficult and stressful the process is and then they reply with, "Oh it's no big deal just reapply."
 
Otterly said:
Not trying to be a downer but today's been hard. I've been trying to hold on to some hope for my WLs, while working on my reapp and being optimistic about reapplying, but today I'm just not feeling it, and I just feel crushed. I'm feeling dread and embarrassment about having to reapply, frustration and sadness at not getting in, and....I hate to admit it but...jealousy of my friends who got in who themselves agree they had very similar apps and got fewer interviews.

It's hard to feel like my dreams, my passions, and the way I want to make a difference in the world are all being held by this process while to adcoms I'm just another number. Even with holistic reviews it's still just hours of experiences.

I'm still gonna keep going with my reapp but today just feels so heavy.

And before someone says that if this is too hard than I'm not cut out to be a doctor please don't....you don't know my story.
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I totally get you. I feel like such a loser. This is my second cycle with only waitlists and no acceptances yet I see people who are less qualified than me getting in. I know I’m good at this and I know I’m meant to be here, but I really feel like my future is up to people who don’t even know me and only see me as a statistic.
 
Otterly said:
Not trying to be a downer but today's been hard. I've been trying to hold on to some hope for my WLs, while working on my reapp and being optimistic about reapplying, but today I'm just not feeling it, and I just feel crushed. I'm feeling dread and embarrassment about having to reapply, frustration and sadness at not getting in, and....I hate to admit it but...jealousy of my friends who got in who themselves agree they had very similar apps and got fewer interviews.

It's hard to feel like my dreams, my passions, and the way I want to make a difference in the world are all being held by this process while to adcoms I'm just another number. Even with holistic reviews it's still just hours of experiences.

I'm still gonna keep going with my reapp but today just feels so heavy.

And before someone says that if this is too hard than I'm not cut out to be a doctor please don't....you don't know my story.
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You're not alone at all in feeling this way. It's been hard to see people I was literally paid to tutor getting into schools and doing well even if I'm happy to see them do it. Definitely feeling all of those emotions and the embarrassment makes it hard to talk about because not many people outside of this niche really understand the rollercoaster that it is.

Feeling like this has nothing to do with your resilience, it's hard having gone through so much to be kept away from the next step in a process that you have little to no input in after interviews. I also pride myself on my resilience and this week has been especially tough for some reason. You'll get through this and be better for it even if it doesn't feel like it in this moment.
 
banksy149 said:
Feeling like this has nothing to do with your resilience, it's hard having gone through so much to be kept away from the next step in a process that you have little to no input in after interviews. I also pride myself on my resilience and this week has been especially tough for some reason. You'll get through this and be better for it even if it doesn't feel like it in this moment.
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From early on I had to accept that this process is rather arbitrary, unfair, and not indicative of me as a candidate nor person. During an interview at my top choice, the interviewer straight up told me they "didn't have time to look at my application because it was too long", and we spent the entirety of the interview reviewing what was already on my app... I was subsequently WLed. At another interview, I was told I didn't fit the diversity quota and seats would be prioritized to those that do... I was also WLed.

But your point remains, because among the most important attributes of being a physician and leader in healthcare is resilience and confidence in your ability. We can't forget that these arbitrary moments we're stressing over now will have minimal meaning in the not-too-distant future as long as we don't let it define us, only influence us. I'm certainly envious of those with successful cycles that never experienced the stress, dread, and embarrassment of the WL and reapplication process. But at the same time, experiencing this inhumane process gives us the unique ability to reevaluate how bad we truly want to be physicians and allows us to carry a chip on our shoulder throughout it all knowing X schools made a mistake by passing on you.
 
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Anyone else literally feel like they got kicked in the gut when seeing significant movement at their WL schools, but silence on their end?

Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for my peers who received an A, but the pain is seriously getting physical at this point. :/
 
Hermes. said:
Anyone else literally feel like they got kicked in the gut when seeing significant movement at their WL schools, but silence on their end?

Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for my peers who received an A, but the pain is seriously getting physical at this point. :/
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yup, especially when those taken off the WL already have an A elsewhere...
 
Hermes. said:
Anyone else literally feel like they got kicked in the gut when seeing significant movement at their WL schools, but silence on their end?

Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for my peers who received an A, but the pain is seriously getting physical at this point. :/
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I totally feel this, but any movement is better than silence! You’re one spot closer to that A. Thats how I’m trying to go about it because this whole month has been BRUTAL
 
Hi all!
Just a reminder that if you're thinking of reapplying starting today that you can just pay for one school ($170) to get your primary verification going.

Then, add the rest of your list closer to transmission date (6/26), but hopefully we get off WLs before then and don't waste too much money 🥲

I know reapplying is excruciating after all our hard work...Above all, please take care of yourselves!!
 
swiftcoffeemed said:
This is going to sound insane but multiple people who were removed off the WL for my top choice also seem to like this other school better but they are WL at it so secretly (not secretly) have been manifesting them getting As there so they can give up my school....
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Does not sound insane at all. The only way for you to receive a call from your top choice is for someone already PTEd there to receive an A from a place they like better! 🙂
 
Just to confirm - if you commit to an MD program, you give up your waitlist spots, right? I've heard with DO programs that committing doesn't mean you have to give up your waitlist spots
 
wegotthis20201234 said:
Just to confirm - if you commit to an MD program, you give up your waitlist spots, right? I've heard with DO programs that committing doesn't mean you have to give up your waitlist spots
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Well, then with DO, "committing" does not involve the standard Webster definition of the word. 🙂

In the MD world, nothing is automatic. When you CTE, YOU are supposed to withdraw from all WLs. Not only is it considered unethical not to do so, but the WL schools can see the CTE (but not which school), so they will know you were supposed to withdraw and didn't. If they are playing by the so-called rules, they will never call you off the WL after seeing you CTE elsewhere, so there is simply no reason to screw around with this.

This has nothing to do with DO, which is a totally different system with different rules and expectations, and also has nothing to do with any so-called MD "commitments" that don't also involve a CTE selection on the AMCAS CYMS tool.
 
does hitting PTE for a school decrease your chances at schools you are waitlisted at?
 
Hey ya'll! So I take the MCAT tomorrow, but my score won't come back until June 29th. Do you guys think it would be worth sending updated scores to the schools I'm waitlisted at by that point if I haven't heard anything by then? They said we can send updated transcripts and MCAT scores, but I feel like at that point does it even matter? Also, do you guys think I should ask the school first whether sending a score that late would even be taken into consideration?
 
TRP23 said:
Hey ya'll! So I take the MCAT tomorrow, but my score won't come back until June 29th. Do you guys think it would be worth sending updated scores to the schools I'm waitlisted at by that point if I haven't heard anything by then? They said we can send updated transcripts and MCAT scores, but I feel like at that point does it even matter? Also, do you guys think I should ask the school first whether sending a score that late would even be taken into consideration?
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I think you should wait and see what the score is first. The odds are pretty high that your question will be moot by then, and you'll either have received an A or a R, or the score will be within +/- the 2 point confidence band, or it would actually go down. This only matters if you are still on the WL and the score is substantially higher than what you already have, in which case how would it hurt to send it, even if it's very late, and even if it ends up not making a difference?
 
KnightDoc said:
I think you should wait and see what the score is first. The odds are pretty high that your question will be moot by then, and you'll either have received an A or a R, or the score will be within +/- the 2 point confidence band, or it would actually go down. This only matters if you are still on the WL and the score is substantially higher than what you already have, in which case how would it hurt to send it, even if it's very late, and even if it ends up not making a difference?
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You're absolutely right. Thank you so much! I always appreciate your advice!
 
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Hi guys! I have a question. The school I'm currently waitlisted also accepts transcript updates and I just recently graduated from undergrad and I had 4.0s both semesters. Would that make a difference to sending my transcript in late May this cycle? Or should I just send my transcripts off for the reapplication cycle of 2021-2022? Should I email admissions just in case?
 
fbyleth said:
Hi guys! I have a question. The school I'm currently waitlisted also accepts transcript updates and I just recently graduated from undergrad and I had 4.0s both semesters. Would that make a difference to sending my transcript in late May this cycle? Or should I just send my transcripts off for the reapplication cycle of 2021-2022? Should I email admissions just in case?
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I think the best option might be to email admissions. It will either help you or do nothing. It won’t harm you in any way
 
fbyleth said:
Hi guys! I have a question. The school I'm currently waitlisted also accepts transcript updates and I just recently graduated from undergrad and I had 4.0s both semesters. Would that make a difference to sending my transcript in late May this cycle? Or should I just send my transcripts off for the reapplication cycle of 2021-2022? Should I email admissions just in case?
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I emailed a PDF of my unofficial transcript to a school I'm waitlisted at and they added it to my file. Haven't been taken off the waitlist yet, but it doesn't seem to have hurt.
 
Got my first MD acceptance yesterday after 2 draining cycles. I lost hope since their Facebook group was filled to the brim (50 seats in the class) and at least 200 more were waitlisted but somehow I made it and it's only a 10-minute drive from home. Crazy. What's meant to be is meant to be. I will be withdrawing a DO acceptance and a DO waitlist shortly.
 
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DoctorOrdinary said:
Got my first MD acceptance yesterday after 2 draining cycles. I lost hope since their facebook group was full with only 50 kids and at least 200 more were waitlisted but somehow I made it and its only a 10 minute drive from home. Crazy. Whats meant to be is meant to be. Will be withdrawing from an A and a WL from 2 DO schools shortly
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Congrats! Do you mind sharing your stats?
 
Medforlifee said:
Same stats 3.93/512 and only DO acceptance so far
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Tbh, I was still hella happy with my DO acceptance. Because all you need is a school to become a physician and your potential really won't change that much between schools. Especially with those stats you already know you'll fare relatively well in medical school
 
ibnalkamil1990 said:
I can tell you about a handful of my friend's classmates at DO school who busted their ass doing research, volunteering, high boards just to barely scrape into rads and gas while people from my school and other nearby schools match them all day long at "better" programs (Pay, location, prestige) without any of the aforementioned
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I didn‘t realize this - this is disheartening if an applicant has high stats and due to other factors like ORM can’t get MD school acceptance.
 
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