2024-2025 Einstein

[Alpha Spin State]

full-time research employee of einstein. pre-II R yesterday. LM 79.

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[SuperDoof123]

I was rejected from the MSTP, but they said that I'm still under consideration for the MD program. Given that I only had an MSTP interview, would they be considering me for an interview or for an actual spot? In other words, is there still hope?

 

[inthetrees]

I still have not received pre II R and was complete 6/29... Don't lose hope my friend, still got at least another month of II

I also completed early (7/3) and have yet to hear anything... I'd be surprised if I get an II though

 

[anonymous1010]

Has anyone sent LOI or Update letters directly to dean of admission pre II?

 

[berryfairy3]

Has anyone sent LOI or Update letters directly to dean of admission pre II?

The dean or the office of admissions?

 

[SuperDoof123]

I was rejected from the MSTP, but they said that I'm still under consideration for the MD program. Given that I only had an MSTP interview, would they be considering me for an interview or for an actual spot? In other words, is there still hope?

Any insights?

 

[popcorn5]

I just had an II yesterday morning. Did people get an email from Einstein after the II? I have not yet.

 

[jihyostantwice]

I just had an II yesterday morning. Did people get an email from Einstein after the II? I have not yet.

All I received was the post-II survey; I think maybe the Friday of the week I interviewed.

 

[popcorn5]

All I received was the post-II survey; I think maybe the Friday of the week I interviewed.

And where is the portal to send post-II updates that I've heard about?

 

[lostinthemaze]

does anybody know what time of day next week they should be sending out the acceptance decisions? i need to know when it is appropriate to get panicked

 

[TheHumanSlimjim]

does anybody know what time of day next week they should be sending out the acceptance decisions? i need to know when it is appropriate to get panicked

Sometime after 12AM

 

[lawnmower101]

does anybody know what time of day next week they should be sending out the acceptance decisions? i need to know when it is appropriate to get panicked

wednesday

 

[GatsbysBatman]

Is there actually a chance if we didn't get rejected pre-II yet? Don't see anything on cycletrack to keep hopes up.

 

[goge69]

Last reported interview last year was on Feb 8 so I wouldn't get my hopes up unfort 🙁

 

[GatsbysBatman]

Last reported interview last year was on Feb 8 so I wouldn't get my hopes up unfort 🙁

Sick

 

[Citygirl44]

Is there actually a chance if we didn't get rejected pre-II yet? Don't see anything on cycletrack to keep hopes up.

I saw a little purple line in March on Cycletrack last year

 

[runaway_jim]

Does anyone know if the letters of disposition are only acceptances/waitlists/rejections, or do they defer further decisions?

 

[mcplayer24242424]

Does anyone think they will do HPWL again? getting anxious for weds....

 

[TheHumanSlimjim]

Does anyone think they will do HPWL again? getting anxious for weds....

They seem very worried about yield this year

 

[GreenIsAnAwesomeColor]

They seem very worried about yield this year

Do you mean they’re worried they’ll admit more students than they have spots for?

 

[themostgulliable]

They seem very worried about yield this year

Where did you hear this from? And what do you mean by it?

 

[YellowSalamander]

Fewer students will withdraw post-acceptance due to free-tuition, so they will be more conservative in how many students they accept. The post-II acceptance rate will therefore likely be quite a bit lower this year.

 

[Frog333]

Do y'all think it's too late to send update letters?

 

[TheGOOD_MD_slimreaper]

They seem very worried about yield this year

i agree

 

[TheHumanSlimjim]

Fewer students will withdraw post-acceptance due to free-tuition, so they will be more conservative in how many students they accept. The post-II acceptance rate will therefore likely be quite a bit lower this year.

Are you sure less students will withdraw because of the free-tuition? I think that depends a lot on what other schools they got into

 

[TheGOOD_MD_slimreaper]

Are you sure less students will withdraw because of the free-tuition? I think that depends a lot on what other schools they got into

Yeahh...and also what fin aid packages they got at different schools

 

[golden_retriever_fan]

Yeahh...and also what fin aid packages they got at different schools

Tuition is an (important) aspect, alongside location, program-specific attributes, and general fit. I think it being free is a significant pull for everyone and the yield might skyrocket, but let’s all be optimistic!

 

[deleted1203416]

Even with free tuition, I still think Einstein will have somewhat of a yield problem. Wealthy premeds and top applicants that get accepted elsewhere will have a lot of options that give similar or better aid. Heck, Einstein is probably the 6th best med school in its own state lol (Columbia, NYU, NYU LI, Cornell, Icahn and heck SBU might be better too) so in-state yield will probably be a issue.

Regardless, y'all just gotta wait it out

 

[TheGOOD_MD_slimreaper]

Even with free tuition, I still think Einstein will have somewhat of a yield problem. Wealthy premeds and top applicants that get accepted elsewhere will have a lot of options that give similar or better aid. Heck, Einstein is probably the 6th best med school in its own state lol (Columbia, NYU, NYU LI, Cornell, Icahn and heck SBU might be better too) so in-state yield will probably be a issue.

Regardless, y'all just gotta wait it out

What's your criteria for determining what's best?

 

[deleted1203416]

What's your criteria for determining what's best?

Historical rankings (med school quality and residency placement), perceived reputation within medicine (and outside medicine too tbh), research opportunities/funding (NIH, state, and beyond), amount of resources, teaching/learning hospital quality and presence, adherence to mission statement and values, accreditation history, and other factors.

 

[johnr42700]

The yield was on-par with HMS last year (75-80%), and the accepted students this year will be even lower because of a pathway program. The historical yield was already high (55%). It's unclear how the yield will shape over time; when NYU started recruiting the highest stat applicants, the yield went back down to 45-50% and has hovered there for years.

Even with free tuition, I still think Einstein will have somewhat of a yield problem. Wealthy premeds and top applicants that get accepted elsewhere will have a lot of options that give similar or better aid. Heck, Einstein is probably the 6th best med school in its own state lol (Columbia, NYU, NYU LI, Cornell, Icahn and heck SBU might be better too) so in-state yield will probably be a issue.

Regardless, y'all just gotta wait it out

This is an insane comment, and I've seen similar ones in prior cycles from students awaiting decisions attempting to score an early A from the WL (they were unsuccessful).

 

[TheHumanSlimjim]

The yield was on-par with HMS last year (75-80%), and the accepted students this year will be even lower because of a pathway program. The historical yield was already high (55%). It's unclear how the yield will shape over time; when NYU started recruiting the highest stat applicants, the yield went back down to 45-50% and has hovered there for years.

This is an insane comment, and I've seen similar ones in prior cycles from students awaiting decisions attempting to score an early A from the WL (they were unsuccessful).

What pathway program are you referring to that wasn’t already in place last year

 

[golden_retriever_fan]

Even with free tuition, I still think Einstein will have somewhat of a yield problem. Wealthy premeds and top applicants that get accepted elsewhere will have a lot of options that give similar or better aid. Heck, Einstein is probably the 6th best med school in its own state lol (Columbia, NYU, NYU LI, Cornell, Icahn and heck SBU might be better too) so in-state yield will probably be a issue.

Regardless, y'all just gotta wait it out

Me when I drink massive amounts of copium 🙂. I’m sorry, just trying to bring some joy

 

[TheGOOD_MD_slimreaper]

Historical rankings (med school quality and residency placement), perceived reputation within medicine (and outside medicine too tbh), research opportunities/funding (NIH, state, and beyond), amount of resources, teaching/learning hospital quality and presence, adherence to mission statement and values, accreditation history, and other factors.

LOLLL....I'm not gonna try to rebuttle every single point you made, but Einstein is a great program and very prestigious in NY. They also serve a very diverse population! Please do not spread misinformation on here.

 

[surelycalm]

They also interviewed a lot more applicants this year so no matter how you look at it their acceptance percentage is going to be very very low.

 

[lostinthemaze]

What pathway program are you referring to that wasn’t already in place last year

Yeshiva University --> Einstein BA-MD

 

[EpigeneticPlasmid]

Dr. House going crazy

 

[scarletscrubs13]

For people that interviewed mid/late Feb, do you know when should we expect to find out?

 

[TheHumanSlimjim]

They also interviewed a lot more applicants this year so no matter how you look at it their acceptance percentage is going to be very very low.

Where did you get this info

 

[TheHumanSlimjim]

Yeshiva University --> Einstein BA-MD

That’s not new for this year though right?

 

[TheRealBibFortuna]

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Historical rankings (med school quality and residency placement), perceived reputation within medicine (and outside medicine too tbh), research opportunities/funding (NIH, state, and beyond), amount of resources, teaching/learning hospital quality and presence, adherence to mission statement and values, accreditation history, and other factors.

Bummer that you’re getting flamed for true statements. Same thing happened when I brought up legitimate criticisms of my IS school. People lurking in the school specific threads are going to be ride or die for that school, unfortunately.

 

[TheGOOD_MD_slimreaper]

Bummer that you’re getting flamed for true statements. Same thing happened when I brought up legitimate criticisms of my IS school. People lurking in the school specific threads are going to be ride or die for that school, unfortunately.

I saw no criticism though. What are the actual criticisms? Unless I am missing something?

 

[TheRealBibFortuna]

I saw no criticism though. What are the actual criticisms? Unless I am missing something?

He was just pointing out that Einstein would likely have a lower yield than other high tier schools. Everyone jumped down his throat for it.

 

[TheGOOD_MD_slimreaper]

He was just pointing out that Einstein would likely have a lower yield than other high tier schools. Everyone jumped down his throat for it.

I also mentioned that Einstein will have a lower Yield. But him saying Einstein is like the 6th best school in New York seemed a lil off...so I just explained why Einstein is a great school so people are not misinformed. Because I have actually lived in NY.

 

[deleted1203416]

I also mentioned that Einstein will have a lower Yield. But him saying Einstein is like the 6th best school in New York seemed a lil off...so I just explained why Einstein is a great school so people are not misinformed. Because I have actually lived in NY.

Bro, Einstein being 4th/5th/6th best school in the state is probably better than at least 100 other med schools and would top most top med schools of other states. New York literally has 15 MD schools and 4 (5 if you count NYU LI as separate from Grossman) of them are T20s lol. (Saying SBU is better Einstein is probably my bad but accreditation issues were at one point a concern)

Also, I have lived in the Bronx lol (live elsewhere now, but point still stands) and have family 10 minutes away from the campus.

I was trying to create some optimism (albeit not in an effective way) about WL movement and yield but obviously I hit some nerves in a day where R waves went flying

 

[TheGOOD_MD_slimreaper]

Bro, Einstein being 4th/5th/6th best school in the state is probably better than at least 100 other med schools and would top most top med schools of other states. New York literally has 15 MD schools and 4 (5 if you count NYU LI as separate from Grossman) of them are T20s lol. (Saying SBU is better Einstein is probably my bad but accreditation issues were at one point a concern)

Also, I have lived in the Bronx lol (live elsewhere now, but point still stands) and have family 10 minutes away from the campus.

I was trying to create some optimism (albeit not in an effective way) about WL movement and yield but obviously I hit some nerves in a day where R waves went flying

I do agree with you that NY is literally the best place in medicine and the 10th best school in NY is still better than most places...no love lost, House

 

[TheRealBibFortuna]

Lmaooo don't add more charcoal to the fire..let's leave it here

I hear SUNY Buffalo has a very supportive residency culture, gonna have to drop Einstein to #9 😔

 

[johnr42700]

He was just pointing out that Einstein would likely have a lower yield than other high tier schools. Everyone jumped down his throat for it.

No, that's not the reason. He was putting down the school around decision release time. It's an (unfortunately) extremely common trend for many competitive schools most years (I've seen it for NW, UCSD, Kaiser, etc.) The most gracious explanation is that these people are trying to "cope" during the waiting period with hope that the waitlist will be visited often. But the more likely reason is that they are trying to push others to forfeit spots for themselves.

Yield for Einstein was extremely high last cycle (one of the highest in the country). Coupled with the significant increase in applications this year, the acceptance rate will likely drop significantly, even more than it did last year. But it isn't right to try to manipulate decisions dishonestly on others behalf (even if it's ineffective).

 

[Moko]

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[doctordoctordoctor27]

Everybody hating on Dr. House as mere premeds..... tisk tisk