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Considering this statement and no indication of II this week, I don't doubt that they're done.

Wow! Do you think people are scheduled for interviews upcoming week? If not, then there will be hope for ll today or tomorrow. Also, they’ve been sending out ll at night for the past two weeks now.
 
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Unfortunately, I would be skeptical of this report. They came and (likely) trolled the Northwestern thread!

I completely agree! This is not the time or place for trolling. Some people have fragile hearts, and this kind of behavior is unnecessary. May God grant us the strength to have even an ounce of wisdom.
 
I completely agree! This is not the time or place for trolling. Some people have fragile hearts, and this kind of behavior is unnecessary. May God grant us the strength to have even an ounce of wisdom.
It appears I jumped the gun in my accusation! I apologize to @femur fracture for my unwarranted assumption.
 
Unfortunately, I would be skeptical of this report. They came and (likely) trolled the Northwestern thread!
I completely agree! This is not the time or place for trolling. Some people have fragile hearts, and this kind of behavior is unnecessary. May God grant us the strength to have even an ounce of wisdom.
You owe me an apology. I have all these people coming at me now for no reason
 
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y'all, the fin aid office sent me an email that they are missing a document from my css... is this is a sign or am i thinking way too much.... interviewed 1/9
 
y'all, the fin aid office sent me an email that they are missing a document from my css... is this is a sign or am i thinking way too much.... interviewed 1/9
Wait same, down to the date; I have to imagine that fin aid is just going through the paperworks though (dont give me hope dont give me hope dont give me hope)
 
Wait same, down to the date; I have to imagine that fin aid is just going through the paperworks though (dont give me hope dont give me hope dont give me hope)
hey boo, I stalked your profile and postings and you are cracked (in a super good way). Can I hype you up tho? You are cracked and the fact that we both got this email gives me hope.
 
hey boo, I stalked your profile and postings and you are cracked (in a super good way). Can I hype you up tho? You are cracked and the fact that we both got this email gives me hope.

I am too chatty in here and it shows haha! I counter hype: you will have so many good options and will accomplish all that you're meant to accomplish regardless which lucky school you choose in the end! Fingers crossed for both of us : D
 
Man now I kind of wish I didn’t submit something so that I could see if I got that email haha, but I already asked the office a few weeks ago and they said I was good. Best of luck to all of us awaiting late March decisions!
 
Anyone know if the financial aid decision provided with the acceptance is for all need-based aid or just the Bloomberg endowment?
 
student here with friends on adcom, to clarify some things i believe that interviews were supposed to have finished last week
 
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any news on the "pass/fail" to "graded" clinicals change rumor?

There was something in the GroupMe essentially saying that it’s safe for another year.
 
When is accepted students weekend? I’m waiting to hear back at the end of March and want to make sure I would be able to go if I do get accepted.
 
It's definitely a bad day for anyone who was hoping to get involved with global health work at Bloomberg, but since the cuts were really just suspended contracts with USAID, I don't think this is particularly indicative of any changes at the SOM. Hopefully.

Definitely still extremely frustrating and shocking though. I hope JHU sues the heck out of DOGE/this administration.
 
It's definitely a bad day for anyone who was hoping to get involved with global health work at Bloomberg, but since the cuts were really just suspended contracts with USAID, I don't think this is particularly indicative of any changes at the SOM. Hopefully.

Definitely still extremely frustrating and shocking though. I hope JHU sues the heck out of DOGE/this administration.
They're also trying to cut a lot of funding related to biomedical research in general, which is probably going to be an issue--especially for schools that are heavily focused on said research. It's a pretty messy situation.
 
I'm not exactly sure on the complete specifics at this moment, but I do not believe there are any plans to change anything as of right now as far as I am aware.
It can take some time for any such change to take hold. Initially, the assumption would be that these grant cuts can be revoked through legal challenges or making changes to address the federal government’s concerns. However, we all know that is far from a certainty. Until the dust settles, I would try to avoid universities that are under investigation.

 
It can take some time for any such change to take hold. Initially, the assumption would be that these grant cuts can be revoked through legal challenges or making changes to address the federal government’s concerns. However, we all know that is far from a certainty. Until the dust settles, I would try to avoid universities that are under investigation.

some very top schools that are doing very important work are on this list. Therefore, I don't think it's good advice to tell people to "avoid" these schools for now until any MD or MSTP program cuts are offical which is just pure speculation at this point.
 
some very top schools that are doing very important work are on this list. Therefore, I don't think it's good advice to tell people to "avoid" these schools for now until any MD or MSTP program cuts are offical which is just pure speculation at this point.
Agreed, if you limit your choice of top medical programs to only schools unaffected by these 'investigations,' then you have UPenn, UCSF, Duke, and NYU. Conveniently, two of those universities are the alma maters of the M*sk-Tr*mp family.

Having talent back off of other great programs with renowned faculty, a long history of quality research output, and stellar student outcomes in the face of political stunts is EXACTLY what they want. Your choice is a personal one, but I would advise against allowing them to pull your strings so easily.
 
some very top schools that are doing very important work are on this list. Therefore, I don't think it's good advice to tell people to "avoid" these schools for now until any MD or MSTP program cuts are offical which is just pure speculation at this point.
Every decision is personal and no two people think alike. Even if something is official such as the Columbia and JHU grant cuts, those can be revoked by future developments. Having said that, MD or MD-PhD/MSTP students are going to commit 4-8 years to a medical school in a key stage of their life. There are programs, not on the list, that also are excellent and have faculty & students doing important work. Bottom-line, everyone who receives multiple As has choices and each one needs to weigh fit, reputation and risk in making that decision. Now, risk has been added as an important third variable adding to the complexity of decision-making.
 
Political decisions are not scientific decisions. Politics is largely symbolic, gesture-based and emotive; it is rarely rational (though certainly strongly motivated), nor does the effect of a decision correlate 100% to the original decision itself.

The publishing of this list is a *gesture* and gains power by sentiment, like waving a flag on the battlefield, its purpose is firstly to appeal to and rally the voter base; the secondary purpose is to intimidate and confuse academia and scientists.

Us ordinary folks can’t change major course, but we can at least choose not to self-sabotage by being intimidated; we can choose to keep doing what we can and what we do best: liking science and helping people 🙂
 
Political decisions are not scientific decisions. Politics is largely symbolic, gesture-based and emotive; it is rarely rational (though certainly strongly motivated), nor does the effect of a decision correlate 100% to the original decision itself.

The publishing of this list is a *gesture* and gains power by sentiment, like waving a flag on the battlefield, its purpose is firstly to appeal to and rally the voter base; the secondary purpose is to intimidate and confuse academia and scientists.

Us ordinary folks can’t change major course, but we can at least choose not to self-sabotage by being intimidated; we can choose to keep doing what we can and what we do best: liking science and helping people 🙂
Many of these gestures have practical consequences, though. Just look at the NIH funding freezes, the DoE being gutted, or the fact that they  did go after Columbia.

Yeah, people shouldn't entirely change course in response to these sorts of actions unless absolutely necessary, but it's important to be aware of the ramifications of these policies. Downplaying them is unwise given the historical precedent there is for attacks on education of this scale, not to mention the consequences we're already seeing.
 
Many of these gestures have practical consequences, though. Just look at the NIH funding freezes, the DoE being gutted, or the fact that they  did go after Columbia.

Yeah, people shouldn't entirely change course in response to these sorts of actions unless absolutely necessary, but it's important to be aware of the ramifications of these policies. Downplaying them is unwise given the historical precedent there is for attacks on education of this scale, not to mention the consequences we're already seeing.
Success in the practice of medicine already depends on many more factors beyond science and clinical ability. The reimbursement landscape, mid level creep etc. are becoming more important by the day. No student should make a decision solely based on the “reputation” of a medical school.
 
Spoke with a WL applicant from last year - apparently they harrass ppl for financial aid even if they give the WL or R post-II. At least I won't get my hopes up too much!
 
Ik the website says no later than March 26th the decisions will come out, but does anyone know if this last wave of decisions will come out in a batch or if some people will receive decisions earlier?
 
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