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2024-2025 Michigan
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eggfriedrice
Full Member
just curious, do they send out As in one big batch near the end of the month? that’s what it seems like from cycletrack
lebronto123
New Member
OOS no rejection (yet)👀
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Tibial.Tuberosity
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OOS no rejection (yet)👀
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Wondering this as well. have any november people heard back yet, or should i take this an Rjust curious, do they send out As in one big batch near the end of the month? that’s what it seems like from cycletrack
averagepremed0101
MD Class of 2029
They should this monday, but they announced they won’t on 12/23 and 12/30 due to the holidaysDo they plan to send out more interviews?
squiggedlys
Full Member
I interviewed the first week of Nov and haven't heard back. I don't think they soft R at all so don't worry! It just hasn't gotten to us yet 🙂Wondering this as well. have any november people heard back yet, or should i take this an R
You hear back by the end of the month after you interview, so probably next week. A’s are also sent out in one batch that month but you might not get the call at the same time.Wondering this as well. have any november people heard back yet, or should i take this an R
Anyone notice that the admissions tracker says they’ve made 158 offers already? That seems to contradict a few things Carol Teener said during my interview day. She said that Michigan doesn’t interview for the waitlist and that everybody has an equal chance regardless of when you interview. She also said that “because of AAMC traffic rules”, Michigan would only make enough offers to fill their class until March/April when people let their acceptances go. None of these can be reconciled if they’ve already made 80% of their offers until April.
I don’t think you heard her correctly. Medical schools have to fill their class in April (ie have sent enough admissions offers sent to match their class size) via AAMC rules. Michigan typically offers around 350 A’s per year as not everyone who get an acceptance will attend. Either way there are still plenty of A’s, chill.Anyone notice that the admissions tracker says they’ve made 158 offers already? That seems to contradict a few things Carol Teener said during my interview day. She said that Michigan doesn’t interview for the waitlist and that everybody has an equal chance regardless of when you interview. She also said that “because of AAMC traffic rules”, Michigan would only make enough offers to fill their class until March/April when people let their acceptances go. None of these can be reconciled if they’ve already made 80% of their offers until April.
i believe historically it has been closer to 330, including those off the waitlist. Either way though, I agree that there are plenty more on the way!I don’t think you heard her correctly. Medical schools have to fill their class in April (ie have sent enough admissions offers sent to match their class size) via AAMC rules. Michigan typically offers around 350 A’s per year as not everyone who get an acceptance will attend. Either way there are still plenty of A’s, chill.
Yeah, just couldn’t be bothered to get the exact number, knew it was around that.i believe historically it has been closer to 330, including those off the waitlist. Either way though, I agree that there are plenty more on the way!
dayoneofmedicine
Full Member
As we wait for the Slack invite... Just made a groupchat for any Oct / Nov admits who'd like to connect - DM me for the link!
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As we wait for the Slack invite... Just made a groupchat for any Oct / Nov admits who'd like to connect - DM me for the link!
It’s a nice discord server! Everyone should join 🤩💫
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So I had the chance to speak with a couple students today (M2 and M3) about some curriculum stuff, as well as why the pre-SOAP match was lower last year. @Mr. Macrophage answered the match question in the Emory vs. Michigan thread, so I just wanted to address some changes that occurred this year with curriculum.
Most notably:
- M1 is a true P/F, which is great woo!
- M2, which is the clerkship year, used to have an internal ranking. However, with the change towards rubric based grading, the internal ranking has apparently been removed. Additionally, the clerkship grading has now allowed for both medical knowledge and communication (empathy etc towards patients) to be taken into consideration for your final score.
Another cool thing - the post-rotation feedback is taken very seriously! There are several students who have had preceptors who may have graded unfairly, mostly in primary care specialties where stress/burnout are very prevalent, and have had grades reversed with enough evidence (typically, a bad grade comes from one of many preceptors, giving enough evidence that the problem was unlikely to be the student)
Most notably:
- M1 is a true P/F, which is great woo!
- M2, which is the clerkship year, used to have an internal ranking. However, with the change towards rubric based grading, the internal ranking has apparently been removed. Additionally, the clerkship grading has now allowed for both medical knowledge and communication (empathy etc towards patients) to be taken into consideration for your final score.
Another cool thing - the post-rotation feedback is taken very seriously! There are several students who have had preceptors who may have graded unfairly, mostly in primary care specialties where stress/burnout are very prevalent, and have had grades reversed with enough evidence (typically, a bad grade comes from one of many preceptors, giving enough evidence that the problem was unlikely to be the student)
In short:as well as why the pre-SOAP match was lower last year. @Mr. Macrophage answered the match question in the Emory vs. Michigan thread
2019: 97% (The future of health care: 164 students graduate from U-M Medical School)
2020: Cannot Locate
2021:
98.2% (Class of 2021 medical school graduates: leaders during the pandemic)
2022:
98% (Match Day anticipation: medical students reveal their residency futures)
2023:
96% (It’s a match: Graduating U-M medical students discover what’s next at Match Day)
2024:
93.8% (The wait is over: graduating medical students find out what’s next at Match Day)
There were some concerns about the 2024 match rate. @feeling_tireddddd talked to some current students, and it appears that a number of students (16) discovered a strong interest in a competitive specialty during their rotations, which led to a change in their specialty plans later than usual. Unfortunately, this timing presented some challenges, and 8 students (4-5% of the class) went unmatched before the SOAP process.
dayoneofmedicine
Full Member
Thank you @feeling_tireddddd and @Mr. Macrophage for conducting the best due diligence and write-ups!
wilsonmagallanes
New Member
At what time do they send acceptance letter? I kinda feel this week they will send a new wave.
doggydog210
Full Member
At what time do they send acceptance letter? I kinda feel this week they will send a new wave.
I’m guessing it’s Friday but hoping it’s sooner lol
doggydog210
Full Member
Congrats!! Did they say when emails would be released?+1 OOS A just now!!!! Interviewed 10/21 and my friend who's an M1 called with the good news!
Thank you!!!! She wasnt fully sure but guessing Friday!Congrats!! Did they say when emails would be released?
dayoneofmedicine
Full Member
Ahhh congrats! So thrilled for you!!
+1 OOS A just now!!!! Interviewed 10/21 and my friend who's an M1 called with the good news!
HUGE congratulations! Do you have any idea why they gave you the decision this month instead of last month?+1 OOS A just now!!!! Interviewed 10/21 and my friend who's an M1 called with the good news!
wilsonmagallanes
New Member
Get ready guys. It’s either today or tomorrow!
seaweedbrain
Full Member
any idea why the portal says not to upload transcripts? i want to show off my fall grades :/ do they want us to submit offical ones to amcas or something?
The transcript you have isn’t “official” and could be tampered with (photoshop etc), so they want it directly from your institution. Probably need to order official one from your school and send directly to Umich or through AMCAS.any idea why the portal says not to upload transcripts? i want to show off my fall grades :/ do they want us to submit offical ones to amcas or something?
dayoneofmedicine
Full Member
I got my call at noon-ish and email in the early afternoon. Fingers crossed for everyone waiting!!
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strawberry32
Full Member
IS pre-II R [emoji22]
wilsonmagallanes
New Member
IS WL interview 11/21 🙁
eggfriedrice
Full Member
OOS A. So excited, rly do love this program!!
averagepremed0101
MD Class of 2029
is pre-ii R, complete 7/30
doggydog210
Full Member
IS A!!!!!
squiggedlys
Full Member
OOS A!
the elusive IS A! Congrats (from a fellow Michigander)IS A!!!!!
gilgameshMD
Full Member
IS Pre-II R. GL all those still in contention!
aishahwjwodj
Full Member
Do they send Rs intermittently throughout the day or is it all at once
doggydog210
Full Member
the elusive IS A! Congrats (from a fellow Michigander)
thank you thank you it’s my undergrad redemption [emoji28]
I believe they send them out all at once, sorta like they do with IIs. Also, I'm super confused with Michigan's app review process: there are people who submitted super early who've yet to receive either an II or R even though Michigan has started to send out frequent R waves—does this mean they repeatedly look at applications?Do they send Rs intermittently throughout the day or is it all at once
Yes they repeatedly look at them. Usually the application isn’t as strong as others in the pool (especially those who receive the first II) but still a good applicant, so they push their application back to review later in the cycle. It’s not over until you get the R, so keep hope, some people I knew got in in February and off WL.I believe they send them out all at once, sorta like they do with IIs. Also, I'm super confused with Michigan's app review process: there are people who submitted super early who've yet to receive either an II or R even though Michigan has started to send out frequent R waves—does this mean they repeatedly look at applications?
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wilsonmagallanes
New Member
Hey everyone, what is the possibility of getting of from the waitlist? I saw on MSAR that they only accept 30/80. Is the data up-to-date?
seaweedbrain
Full Member
the reality is it completely depends on how many accepted students decide to go somewhere else. it would most likely vary pretty significantly year to yearHey everyone, what is the possibility of getting of from the waitlist? I saw on MSAR that they only accept 30/80. Is the data up-to-date?
squiggedlys
Full Member
Does anyone know when second look is/when orientation is? I have a trip planned and was wondering the dates!
I believe april 24/25!Does anyone know when second look is/when orientation is? I have a trip planned and was wondering the dates!
OOS A!!!