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Day 7: Let Me See IT Vote Tally

vetschoolsplz (6)
- MsP, AM, mayo, Lupin, Barks, Trilt
samac (1) - Lawpy
mayo (1) - Cray

8/14

Missing: @vetschoolsletmeinplease @Chaostrodon @samac @LetItSnow @jaboo @supershorty

Deadline: 10pm EST on 3/14/21 (~11 hours)

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I did some quick ISOing and reading and I think this is my current sitiation revised from this morning:

Most Sketch
Pleasey
MsP
Cray
Lupes
Lawps
LIS
Chaos,
Katamac
Shorty
Jboo
Barks
AM
Least Sketch

On quick read through I couldn't find any small things on either MsP (still lacking a lot of content) or Pleasey to lean them more village, so the distinction is mostly ~vibes~.

##lynch pleasey##

Can you explain why jboozy is ranked more favorably over shorty?
 
cray; i left my interactions analysis not sure what to make and her vca isn't great but as counter-intuitive as it is, i find her pushing the kill it if its not villig very in line with villig cray. im pretty sure she's village but im willing to reevaluate
You weren’t sure what to make of her interactions or VCA but have her high village because she wants to yeet mayo? Wanting to get rid of 3p isn’t just a village thing though
chaos is bc i'm not sure what to make of the interactions w z, and i have "not too hot, last on cyn" for the vca notes, but i think the tone is villig and a lot of the tone differences i chalk up to not playing how conversationally we do on sdn
but chaos is one of the most flexible reads i have, like right on the edge of my villig
What tone differences?

And is villig somehow different from village
 
One day you're going to have to read players for yourself. One day you'll look to Midwife and she'll be wolf. Time to start flexing those muscles now.

I realize that but i was thinking whether pleasy's content affected AM's read on her. I'm currently not opposed to her yeet.
 
These posts from please last night are reminding me of pawprints. The reads/explanations are a little weird (not to the extent that pawprints' were, but noticeable). She's still hedgy and waffley. I went back and looked at the Basics game where she was wolfing, and her posts have a different tone there - she seemed much more confident and sure in what she was saying, and she gave lengthier explanations for reads than she's been doing in this game. I know I wolf read her earlier in the game, but I feel like there's a chance that she's a sketchy villager that the wolves kept around for a misyeet.

snow; was on all 3 wolf votes and was relatively early on cyndia and alley and that would be some pretty deep bussing

cray; i left my interactions analysis not sure what to make and her vca isn't great but as counter-intuitive as it is, i find her pushing the kill it if its not villig very in line with villig cray. im pretty sure she's village but im willing to reevaluate

AM is where she be mostly from salt. I think her vca looks pretty ok esp since she was first on cyn

bark actually got moved down a little bit from vca- i have "has been on no woof votes, despite being present for two of them, usually in the first couple of wagons" and it was the "hasn't been on any wolf votes" part that bothered me a little bit. again, i think bark is most likely village but if it comes down to me, barks, and like shorty im gonna think its bark

jaboo is where they are bc i read the tone villig BUT i didn't like their vca- i have" usually mid to late wagon, only on 1 wolf vote (z)" and i feel like the mid-late wagon thing isnt great

*edited to add paragraph breaks and delete my little list at the top of who shorty was talking abt
a couple of thoughts on this;

i only look how the votes land at the end of the day. i realize this is flawed but the votes at 7pm are also the only votes that REALLY count and are literally life and death

and I dont see how that moves bark MORE villig? if anything that makes it fishier right?
trout is in villig lean for tone, helped by being on mid-early cyn vote. the read will likely get pushed in a stronger direction once i have the chance and energy to iso interactions

chaos is bc i'm not sure what to make of the interactions w z, and i have "not too hot, last on cyn" for the vca notes, but i think the tone is villig and a lot of the tone differences i chalk up to not playing how conversationally we do on sdn
but chaos is one of the most flexible reads i have, like right on the edge of my villig
 
You weren’t sure what to make of her interactions or VCA but have her high village because she wants to yeet mayo? Wanting to get rid of 3p isn’t just a village thing though
That’s just not the meaning of what I said.
I said I have Cray village bc her pushing to yeet anything that is confirmed to not be village seems, to me, like village cray. This whole time I’ve been saying Cray sounds like her village self, this was an extension of that.
What tone differences?
Like the differences in chaos’ tone vs everyone else. Everyone else, for the most part, takes a very conversational approach to WW (that’s why the thread is like 120+ pages) but where initially some of chaos’ tonal differences confused me to his read, I’ve come around to the differences being due to playing on another site, not AI
 
You weren’t sure what to make of her interactions or VCA but have her high village because she wants to yeet mayo? Wanting to get rid of 3p isn’t just a village thing though
That’s just not the meaning of what I said.
I said I have Cray village bc her pushing to yeet anything that is confirmed to not be village seems, to me, like village cray. This whole time I’ve been saying Cray sounds like her village self, this was an extension of that.
What tone differences?
Like the differences in chaos’ tone vs everyone else. Everyone else, for the most part, takes a very conversational approach to WW (that’s why the thread is like 120+ pages) but where initially some of chaos’ tonal differences confused me to his read, I’ve come around to the differences being due to playing on another site, not AI
And is villig somehow different from village
No theyre the same thing I just think villig is a funny way of mispronouncing village
 
These posts from please last night are reminding me of pawprints. The reads/explanations are a little weird (not to the extent that pawprints' were, but noticeable). She's still hedgy and waffley. I went back and looked at the Basics game where she was wolfing, and her posts have a different tone there - she seemed much more confident and sure in what she was saying, and she gave lengthier explanations for reads than she's been doing in this game. I know I wolf read her earlier in the game, but I feel like there's a chance that she's a sketchy villager that the wolves kept around for a misyeet.

Do you have thoughts on her posting numerous wordy readlist-styles things from the beginning to midgame?
 
Do you have thoughts on her posting numerous wordy readlist-styles things from the beginning to midgame?
Yeah, there's a reason I was wolf reading her earlier, and that was part of it. The reads themselves were sketchy too, particularly D1. There was a tone shift on D2 (I know, Zenge had been seered at that point) that really just reads to me like a frustrated and defeated villager though - I think it's hard to fake that compared to being angry. I feel like she's been making an effort with looking into people in the last few days and in defending herself (which we haven't really seen from this pack so far), and after I looked back at Basics to compare to her tone when she's wolfing, I just feel like she could be an easy misyeet and is still around for that reason. She's not a strong village read for anyone and isn't driving discussion, so doesn't seem like a logical NK choice. If she flips wolf, I'll feel really stupid, but the difference in tone in Basics was pretty striking to me this morning when I looked.

Alley's turn yay

first interaction I found, over on page 12. throws some slight sus on z but nothing too harsh

her reads list, I went through and untagged everyone bc i thought that might be annoying
Someone pointed it out earlier, Z is mentioned way more than anyone else on this list. I think Alley said thats bc thats what was topical on the thread but i think it's a little strange nonetheless



him asking her in response to her saying im being me



responding to how she feels abt my interaction w april/AM's interaction

so before the sheet hyperfocused on z, and he's pretty much absent here

Coming away from D1, I think it could go either way.

mentions z more than other people, but not in an over the top way i guess. really doesn't say anything about him

Gives some very subtle sus to Z

in response to AM asking how she was reading interactions (theres a larger post these were just the parts that involved Z)

in response to lawpy asking about mine and z's interactions



This continues to throw me off in the phrasing. she like wasn't really leaning him wolf from what I saw, it was a pretty light, pretty subtle read. When I read this the first time it felt off too

I think that Alley/Z makes sense with loud notifications, esp in the last post of day 2 . they didn't really sus each other, specifically, from what I can tell Z didn't really mention her at all
This seemed like a good effort and gave me village feels.

ok cyndia
im really upset these got out of order🙁

it was a quote of cyndia's mkg vote

cyndia's column is blank

calls attention and some mild sus to cyndia.

this was in response to the above post by z

calls more attention to cyndia

this was in response to a post by cyndia

so far im not really going w/w on this but we'll keep going

this throws some srs shade on cyndia

this is all it says in cyndia's row

and she also mentions cyndia in mkg's colu

cyndia doesn't throw any real shade in z's direction here

coming away from D1, i'm really not feeling w/w on cyn/z. cyn/alley theres not really anything to analyze

backin off of her a little bit

calling a lot of attention to her and some like light sus w light redemption and then some sus of her again. flippyfloppy but not in a w/w way, this is reading more in a "if they flip i can justify myself" way

alley throws some side eye at cyndia but nothing too bad


this was in response to alley's list. it kinda calls attention to alley and not in a good village way but its not super sus'in her either

alley's list
i feel like z and alley are calling too much bad attention to her for it to be w/w/v

the same way that z was, has been calling light suspicions on her, enough to build to a vote maybe, but also enough to claim village if cyn flipped imo.

same sentiment

more bad attention to cyndia

at this point, we're pretty far into D2 and with out without loud notifications, esp with, the wolves cant be calling this much attention to a packmate when theyre losing z.

in kind of a round about, innocent by association way, i dont think its very likely that zenge/alley/cyndia are w/w/w. makes me feel better about cyndia

ok now its bed time
On the other hand, this looks not so great.

and (yeah yeah hedgey schools idc) this could be all influenced by way too much coffee and not enough sleep, but i want to move jaboo to the edges of my solid village block bc i got wayyyyy to much green on my spreadsheet and i don't think it looks right
This almost feels village because it's a little irrational and doesn't make sense.

This may make sense, if she could hack cameras to “take pictures” of other players, it may work similar to a seer
I’ve been trying to figure out who took a picture of me bc it was after z died and I don’t think it was Dina
And it didn’t sound like the seer notification was a camera
But cyndia hacker may make sense
@vetschoolsletmeinplease Have you gotten any other night notifications?
 
I feel like there could be a wolf between Cray and MsP, but between Cray's heavy push to yeet a neutral instead of wolf hunt and MsP's interactions with Zenge and evolution of her POI/voting history, I'm not sure which one is more likely.
I'm still feeling this, but I feel like Cray's neutral yeet push might be coming from bad experiences with 3Ps before and some residual bad feels from that, not necessarily from wolfing. She's otherwise felt fairly village, and my ISO of MsP yesterday (and her response to one of the things I called out) felt off to me.

Yeet MsP
 
Yeah, there's a reason I was wolf reading her earlier, and that was part of it. The reads themselves were sketchy too, particularly D1. There was a tone shift on D2 (I know, Zenge had been seered at that point) that really just reads to me like a frustrated and defeated villager though - I think it's hard to fake that compared to being angry. I feel like she's been making an effort with looking into people in the last few days and in defending herself (which we haven't really seen from this pack so far), and after I looked back at Basics to compare to her tone when she's wolfing, I just feel like she could be an easy misyeet and is still around for that reason. She's not a strong village read for anyone and isn't driving discussion, so doesn't seem like a logical NK choice. If she flips wolf, I'll feel really stupid, but the difference in tone in Basics was pretty striking to me this morning when I looked.

This seemed like a good effort and gave me village feels.


On the other hand, this looks not so great.


This almost feels village because it's a little irrational and doesn't make sense.


@vetschoolsletmeinplease Have you gotten any other night notifications?
Regarding the alley quote, does it affect anything that this read was posted during the cycle alley was already semi-outted?
 
Regarding the alley quote, does it affect anything that this read was posted during the cycle alley was already semi-outted?
With all the bussing that's happened, I'm not giving her any strong village points for it. Tone is what's really made me reconsider with her. She's been sketchy this whole game, I'm just not convinced that she's wolf-sketchy based on how she wolfed before.
 
MsP's turn;

I just realized MsP is playing this game. I probably would have been blissfully unaware too, until 5 minutes to yeet close when she comes on with a flurry of posts to meet requirements, a suspicious amount of thread knowledge, and vote to make a tie. I’m not sure my stomach lining can take the chaos that is MsP.

UNYEET AM
YEET MsP
z recieved a fair amount of scrutiny for this, but i dont think he was expecting to
Yes. That’s why I’m voting for Msp. Ba dum tssss.
i think im undercaffeinated and foggy but this phrase makes it seem more like a jokey vote, then later in the next couple of pages z is like no i was 1000% serious and backs off as soon as MsP posts at all
so baby tinfoil
this could have been a set up to gain MsP some major village credit,
make is so that her bar is to come on and post anything, and that will get everyone immediately village read her

I mean, if I come up with something better I’ll go for it, but I’m never going to be okay with MsP lurking in the background and coming on at the last minute to cause chaos. I’m not sure why anyone would be.
i think this supports that theory
Hey! I'm not that chaotic. What do you mean by "suspicious amount of thread knowledge"? I was village that game. Since I was village that game your reasoning for voting me because of how I played previously is kind of flawed. You're obviously not aiming for a wolf.
msp's response
Unyeet MsP

Now that she’s posting and I know it won’t be a repeat of last time I saw her play.
z's response to msp's first post
It very well could be wolf!MsP. I don’t know.

My vote was to apply pressure and try to get her to post literally anything, just so we didn’t have a repeat of basics where she comes on 5 minutes to close, like a tornado, causes chaos, and votes to make a tie, yeeting two villagers. It didn’t end up happening but it was razor thin. Literally the only way determine her affiliation ended up being to misyeet her, and that’s not really a recipe for success.

Now that she’s making an effort to post, I’m satisfied that my pressure yielded results. I’m not clearing her by any means, I’d certainly like to see more, but I was always going to try and move my vote later on to a more wolfy candidate, as opposed to just a decidedly anti-village one.
this might subtly imply msp is at least not anti-village, and then its not a far stretch to just call her village
and i think this aligns with some of the sentiment i saw about the wolves throwing some mild sus on each other in the beginnings, but pulling away before anyone was in real yeet danger

When you're confused about a player you've played once with it's always best to ask other people how they have played before or look at other games they've played before. It's illogical to base their affiliation on just one game.
msp's response
No, that was just a momentary salt vote from the last game. I moved to pressure MsP and have since moved off, now that she’s posted.
talking to lupin abt his votes
Secondly, I’m pretty happy that MsP is actually participating in the opening here. I'd still like to see more, but I'm at least not going to worry about a repeat of the basics game.
gives msp some village cfed
Z went hardcore on pressuring MsP. I get it though, there were a LOT of us that were salty about how that game ended, and MsP playing anti-village contributed to that village loss. So I get why that left a sour taste in his mouth, and I agree with Anna about why several players are still salty about it, even though MsP's misyeet did help Anna as a wolf. Regardless, Z's pressure vote worked and it appears that MsP is playing more pro-village (so far at least)? I am not a fan of how much he defended this move though, so it pinged my wolfdar slightly.
gives z some sus for the msp thing which i think in turn helps msp subconsciously a little bit?


Defended his MsP vote b/c she is chaotic and has antivillage play, even called her out for reacting and not posting yet. Once she posted he backed off. Looks like his attempt to draw her out of the shadows worked. Pointed out that he doesn't know what wolf!MsP looks like, only that his pressure vote did what he wanted it to. Had a little back and forth with Lupin about town vs village, noobiness came out. Towny does not equal uber village
so this and the next couple of quotes are from alley's spreadsheet. from z's row
Called out Z's vote change as sketchy, along with Lawpy tagging a quiet player. Misremembered the past/totally forgot that Lawpy made the emoji game, which seems NAI. Defending MsP because she's playing more pro-village this game and could be misyeet bait
this spreadsheet really focuses on the z/msp thing and im wondering if its keeping track of how her packmate is interacting w a village or how two packmates are interacting . this row gives msp some village cred (from dina's row)
Popped in to joke around and post a puppy, typical Anna things. Contributed to the discussion regarding MsP and why her anti-village play in her last game bothered so many players
from my row
Claims that MsP's posting (or lack thereof) is NAI
from bark's row. so these past two focus on msp independent of z, and that kinda makes me raise an eyebrow


It doesn’t. But putting a yeet vote on isn’t permanent either. You can yeet to apply pressure and see what comes of it. It seemed like, at least temporarily, my pressuring MsP got her to at least come on and defend herself.

Although at this point it seems like that’s basically all she did, which is starting to make me feel not so great about the situation. Tomorrow’s a new day though, and at least she actually has posted, which is more than I can say for some.
in response to lawp saying antivillage doesnt always guarantee wolf

I’d also like to hear your current thoughts on MsP. It’s starting to feel like she only came on the thread to defend herself and make it seem like she’s making an effort, but then hasn’t been back, and I’m starting to not feel great about it.
asking AM to give thoughts on MsP

I didn’t like the immediate following of me pressuring MsP, and then following Cray onto pleasy. It feels kind of like Barks is trying to get on a vote early and see what can maybe stick till EOD.

Especially when Barks abandoned the MsP vote after I’d left, without much thought or reason for it, and then jumped on pleasy while “considering” a dislike pleasy’s post.
more about barks than msp
The MsP/AM read as both wolf makes no sense. Her only reason seems to be stemming from this tinfoil
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more about alissa than msp

This is my 4th. Just the one with MsP but EVERYONE said that "This is what she does every game" and then she did it. And now it looks like shes about to do it again.
begins to put more sus on msp
MsP: She had only a handful of posts, and while they weren't bad, I would like to see more. Hopefully she's posted some in pages 12-20. I do not like how quiet she is since it has been historically AI (known for being a low-posting wolf), according to some of the vets in the last game she played, where her low-posting got her misyeeted.
stays very like... avoiding of giving a read read? like a wait and we'll see
[TD]Has been very quiet, but says that MsP and AM are leaning village to her[/TD]
in katamac's row
  • MsP - Behavior D1 felt villagey. I've said it in the past but I tend to find her much more aggressive and argumentative as a wolf, though I think I've also said that on thread about her before and don't know if she took that to heart. But overall feeling villagey, though would like to see more from her.
from cyndia's reads. gives village with room for moving easily if needed
  • Please - Mild wolf points for some of the discussion with dina about msp. Overall the style of play seems villagey for what I know of her, but also I've never seen her wolf so can't speak to that.
mentions msp in my bulletpt

so overall i think cyn and alley have sounded similar w regards to MsP- some very small sus but with lots of room to change their minds if needed

z has taken a little more extreme of an approach by drawing major attention to msp in the beginning but then i think the aftermath gave msp a lot of village cred and idk if that's planned

after d1 i don't think i can rule out w/w

MsP is still someone I’m keeping my eye on, but I was pleasantly surprised by her coming on and posting reads and contributing to the conversation more than what I was expecting. I’m glad to be wrong on that.
gives msp some village credit
I appreciate MsP participating more than she did last game, but I think she could contribute more. She did not post from page 6-19, and I am in agreeance with others that she tends to respond to pressure votes. I did appreciate her posting a reads list though.

Also, somebody asked me why I thought her low-posting was AI, but I can't find the post anymore. In the last game I played with her, the pirate basics game, a vet (genny? dina? AM?) told us that she was commonly a low-posting wolf and that was her wolfing meta, which is why she was misyeeted in that game. After basics, I was hoping that she would contribute more this game and be more pro-village. I think she is contributing more than she was in that game, so I think the low-posting is not related to her affiliation. It's the content of those posts that will determine if she's a wolf or not.
also gives MsP some pro-village AND some very subtle sus
MsP has been gone for so long and hasn’t posted a ton, and I think she could fit in with most of my wolf leans.
some sus that isn't too damning


MsP is still a no-show with only 3 posts from yesterday.
Maybe MsP does only respond to pressure votes?

Yeet MsP
from the same post. there's no real danger on MsP at this point, it's clearly stated as a pressure vote. bUT i don't really see putting another packmate up on the board while they know they will lose z

I'm also leaving the Eel Pool open for cases like MsP who's not as bad as she was in Basics, but still seems to be flying under the radar. I'm also not...not... looking at Genny still, but my main issue was the refusal to play ball and she seems to have changed her tune.
although i could see this as z throwing some sus on fellow packmates that isn't too bad (doesn't put her in real danger) but DOES make them look less w/w

Zenge: That whole over explain MsP thing. Lurked at yeet close. April felt off about them said it felt like their wolf meta.
all she says about z (and also has z in her poe below, as well as cyndia)

I think Zenge and Pleasy are basically caught and some of the reads they're thowing out are to protect or make us doubt some of the wolves.
i think this could fit w loud notifications

Making note that MsP did not show up last night, but she is here now and I'm very intrigued by her posts and I think she is at least trying to get caught up.
gives some provillage points to msp

My wolf leans right now are: genny, Z, Pleasy, Kata, MsP, mayo (slight), Am (slight), cyndia (slight). This hasn't changed from the reads list that I posted late last night.
lol both of her confirmed packmates are here. fits w loud notifications on z though, having him right in the front. puts cyndia at the end under slight, i dont think its entirely out of the question that she could put a wolf msp in here too
Unyeet MsP

Yeet Pleasy
BUT also does this
her vote on msp stayed by itself and msp was never in real danger here

I feel a bit better about MsP because she is contributing. I still don't like how she only shows up a few hours before yeet deadline, but I've been there before and she is putting in more effort than she did in basics
in response to z asking how her reads on msp have changed- could be helping one or both packmates
helps alley change her read on the thread
helps msp get more village cred

You didn't even defend yourself. You didn't vote!
she says this to z

ok so i don't think w/w is out of the question, for any of them
 
These posts from please last night are reminding me of pawprints. The reads/explanations are a little weird (not to the extent that pawprints' were, but noticeable). She's still hedgy and waffley. I went back and looked at the Basics game where she was wolfing, and her posts have a different tone there - she seemed much more confident and sure in what she was saying, and she gave lengthier explanations for reads than she's been doing in this game. I know I wolf read her earlier in the game, but I feel like there's a chance that she's a sketchy villager that the wolves kept around for a misyeet.

Who was in her pack when she was a wolf?
 
I'm still feeling this, but I feel like Cray's neutral yeet push might be coming from bad experiences with 3Ps before and some residual bad feels from that, not necessarily from wolfing. She's otherwise felt fairly village, and my ISO of MsP yesterday (and her response to one of the things I called out) felt off to me.

Yeet MsP
What response was that?
 
Who was in her pack when she was a wolf?
genny, Vissy, and April. Why?

What response was that?
Below:
The whole reason I felt okay having Zenge as a villager D1 was because he straight out said he was yeeting me regardless of whether or not I was a wolf because my play last game was anti-village. I felt comfortable with him after he said this because I thought there was no way a wolf would admit on thread that they were trying to yeet a villager.
Seems like a really easy thing for a wolf to say under the guise of being pro-village, not sure I follow your logic in this statement.
 
MsP's turn;

z recieved a fair amount of scrutiny for this, but i dont think he was expecting to

i think im undercaffeinated and foggy but this phrase makes it seem more like a jokey vote, then later in the next couple of pages z is like no i was 1000% serious and backs off as soon as MsP posts at all
so baby tinfoil
this could have been a set up to gain MsP some major village credit,
make is so that her bar is to come on and post anything, and that will get everyone immediately village read her


i think this supports that theory

msp's response

z's response to msp's first post

this might subtly imply msp is at least not anti-village, and then its not a far stretch to just call her village
and i think this aligns with some of the sentiment i saw about the wolves throwing some mild sus on each other in the beginnings, but pulling away before anyone was in real yeet danger


msp's response

talking to lupin abt his votes

gives msp some village cfed

gives z some sus for the msp thing which i think in turn helps msp subconsciously a little bit?



so this and the next couple of quotes are from alley's spreadsheet. from z's row

this spreadsheet really focuses on the z/msp thing and im wondering if its keeping track of how her packmate is interacting w a village or how two packmates are interacting . this row gives msp some village cred (from dina's row)

from my row

from bark's row. so these past two focus on msp independent of z, and that kinda makes me raise an eyebrow



in response to lawp saying antivillage doesnt always guarantee wolf


asking AM to give thoughts on MsP


more about barks than msp

more about alissa than msp


begins to put more sus on msp

stays very like... avoiding of giving a read read? like a wait and we'll see

in katamac's row

from cyndia's reads. gives village with room for moving easily if needed

mentions msp in my bulletpt

so overall i think cyn and alley have sounded similar w regards to MsP- some very small sus but with lots of room to change their minds if needed

z has taken a little more extreme of an approach by drawing major attention to msp in the beginning but then i think the aftermath gave msp a lot of village cred and idk if that's planned

after d1 i don't think i can rule out w/w

gives msp some village credit

also gives MsP some pro-village AND some very subtle sus

some sus that isn't too damning




from the same post. there's no real danger on MsP at this point, it's clearly stated as a pressure vote. bUT i don't really see putting another packmate up on the board while they know they will lose z


although i could see this as z throwing some sus on fellow packmates that isn't too bad (doesn't put her in real danger) but DOES make them look less w/w


all she says about z (and also has z in her poe below, as well as cyndia)


i think this could fit w loud notifications


gives some provillage points to msp


lol both of her confirmed packmates are here. fits w loud notifications on z though, having him right in the front. puts cyndia at the end under slight, i dont think its entirely out of the question that she could put a wolf msp in here too

BUT also does this
her vote on msp stayed by itself and msp was never in real danger here


in response to z asking how her reads on msp have changed- could be helping one or both packmates
helps alley change her read on the thread
helps msp get more village cred


she says this to z

ok so i don't think w/w is out of the question, for any of them

Oh come on, don't hesitate you know you want to join.
 
Every example you made of me potentially being wrong this game mechanically has actually been you being wrong yourself (and confused how I could be this level of secure in myself so early) so this means little to me.

So chew on that for some time unless you like repeating history.
No. You were wrong about what Chaos meant, pure and simple. Keep being insufferable tho.
 
I don't believe you are, but feels like it is coming down to either you or please.

Plus, I had hoped you would have typed "I wish" like genny does when I ask her that and she flipped village. haha
 
I don't believe you are, but feels like it is coming down to either you or please.

Plus, I had hoped you would have typed "I wish" like genny does when I ask her that and she flipped village. haha

I think please should be yeeted over me (obviously). I'm fairly certain please is a wolf (hopefully the last). We're not in LYLO (VOLO?) so I don't really care which one of us goes first as long as please goes.
 
You liked kaydubs's response response to this but didn't explain what your point was
I was going to put a response but I felt that I made my point in the post when I asked the question. Who is in a pack can determine how a noob acts and how a noob acted as a wolf once might not be how they act another time.
 
I think please should be yeeted over me (obviously). I'm fairly certain please is a wolf (hopefully the last). We're not in LYLO (VOLO?) so I don't really care which one of us goes first as long as please goes.
I just don’t have a strong enough cell signal to flip through pages of ISO.
How long have you been reading pleasy as wolf?
 
I don't believe you are, but feels like it is coming down to either you or please.

Plus, I had hoped you would have typed "I wish" like genny does when I ask her that and she flipped village. haha
The thing is, I don't really wish to be a wolf this game. Their pack got toppled really quick. I would have if they were winning though :heckyeah:.
 
I was going to put a response but I felt that I made my point in the post when I asked the question. Who is in a pack can determine how a noob acts and how a noob acted as a wolf once might not be how they act another time.
I agree that they may not act the same, especially when please has only ever wolfed once before but I feel like the pack she was in before isn't super different from who has flipped here so far
 
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