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[Trilt]

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That is not a reason explaining why I would lie.

Nor does it explain why Chaos got a similar notification to other Dina seers the same night I didn't get one.

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

I don't really understand some of the rankings on this list.

Why is jboo on the furthest outskirts of your village reads? Why is Cray so far up?

Can you explain the bolded ones more?

snow; was on all 3 wolf votes and was relatively early on cyndia and alley and that would be some pretty deep bussing

cray; i left my interactions analysis not sure what to make and her vca isn't great but as counter-intuitive as it is, i find her pushing the kill it if its not villig very in line with villig cray. im pretty sure she's village but im willing to reevaluate

AM is where she be mostly from salt. I think her vca looks pretty ok esp since she was first on cyn

bark actually got moved down a little bit from vca- i have "has been on no woof votes, despite being present for two of them, usually in the first couple of wagons" and it was the "hasn't been on any wolf votes" part that bothered me a little bit. again, i think bark is most likely village but if it comes down to me, barks, and like shorty im gonna think its bark

jaboo is where they are bc i read the tone villig BUT i didn't like their vca- i have" usually mid to late wagon, only on 1 wolf vote (z)" and i feel like the mid-late wagon thing isnt great

*edited to add paragraph breaks and delete my little list at the top of who shorty was talking abt

 

[Animal Midwife]

That is not a reason explaining why I would lie.

Y o u d i d n t l i e i f t h e n o t i f i c a t i o n n e v e r o c c u r e d

 

[holdthemayo]

I'm confused.

Carry on

 

[Trilt]

Y o u d i d n t l i e i f t h e n o t i f i c a t i o n n e v e r o c c u r e d

Or Trilt is lying.

Why are these more likely then Trilt straight-up lying

Spoiler: alright

It's cool to just throw shade but when you're asked to justify it you can produce nothing. 👍

 

[Animal Midwife]

snow; was on all 3 wolf votes and was relatively early on cyndia and alley and that would be some pretty deep bussing

cray; i left my interactions analysis not sure what to make and her vca isn't great but as counter-intuitive as it is, i find her pushing the kill it if its not villig very in line with villig cray. im pretty sure she's village but im willing to reevaluate

AM is where she be mostly from salt. I think her vca looks pretty ok esp since she was first on cyn

bark actually got moved down a little bit from vca- i have "has been on no woof votes, despite being present for two of them, usually in the first couple of wagons" and it was the "hasn't been on any wolf votes" part that bothered me a little bit. again, i think bark is most likely village but if it comes down to me, barks, and like shorty im gonna think its bark

jaboo is where they are bc i read the tone villig BUT i didn't like their vca- i have" usually mid to late wagon, only on 1 wolf vote (z)" and i feel like the mid-late wagon thing isnt great

*edited to add paragraph breaks and delete my little list at the top of who shorty was talking abt

What about jboo literally starting the vote on Zenge?

Also, Barks was on a wolf vote so I don't understand what you mean.

Cray one still feels slightly off for some reason, particularly when everyone else you're bothered with VCA-wise got ranked lower than her (and me despite liking everything I've done).

 

[Animal Midwife]

Spoiler: alright

It's cool to just throw shade but when you're asked to justify it you can produce nothing. 👍

I answered you like five times already this cycle. Either it happened and you lied or no notification occurred at all and therefore you didn't lie.

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

What about jboo literally starting the vote on Zenge?

Also, Barks was on a wolf vote so I don't understand what you mean.

Cray one still feels slightly off for some reason, particularly when everyone else you're bothered with VCA-wise got ranked lower than her (and me despite liking everything I've done).

i mean everyone seems to barely count bussing on z as bussing. everyone is set on loud notifications meaning the wolves knew they were losing z so i feel like that doesn't give much village cred to jboo

bark; I have me(2), (ded), visc (9), cray (2), samac (2), and samac(1) did i mis-record something?

and ill admit cray should be lower but she just sounds so village cray to me that i just really think shes villig

 

[supershorty]

i mean everyone seems to barely count bussing on z as bussing. everyone is set on loud notifications meaning the wolves knew they were losing z so i feel like that doesn't give much village cred to jboo

bark; I have me(2), (ded), visc (9), cray (2), samac (2), and samac(1) did i mis-record something?

and ill admit cray should be lower but she just sounds so village cray to me that i just really think shes villig

jaboo put her contingency vote on Zenge before he got seered though. It was not long after yeet closed on D1.

 

[Trilt]

I answered you like five times already this cycle. Either it happened and you lied or no notification occurred at all and therefore you didn't lie.

You have not once given me a

Justification

For

Why

I

Would

Lie

About

This.

Read that slow and steady.

Sound it out.

Answer me with what I had to gain from lying about this, and specifically why I would even point out I should have been notified and then lied about it.

I understand you're being pointedly obtuse for some reason, but it's ****ing annoying.

 

[holdthemayo]

i mean everyone seems to barely count bussing on z as bussing. everyone is set on loud notifications meaning the wolves knew they were losing z so i feel like that doesn't give much village cred to jboo

bark; I have me(2), (ded), visc (9), cray (2), samac (2), and samac(1) did i mis-record something?

and ill admit cray should be lower but she just sounds so village cray to me that i just really think shes villig

So you are fighting, and I like that.

So, convince me, where is your better option today?

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

jaboo put her contingency vote on Zenge before he got seered though. It was not long after yeet closed.

i hadn't noted that
that actually move jaboo into the next tier up thank you

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

So you are fighting, and I like that.

So, convince me, where is your better option today?

So here's the thing
MsP and samac are up next for interaction searching but i just do not have the energy to do either tonight
so this will be a question i can much better answer after those two, but its one of those two i think

 

[Animal Midwife]

i mean everyone seems to barely count bussing on z as bussing. everyone is set on loud notifications meaning the wolves knew they were losing z so i feel like that doesn't give much village cred to jboo

bark; I have me(2), (ded), visc (9), cray (2), samac (2), and samac(1) did i mis-record something?

and ill admit cray should be lower but she just sounds so village cray to me that i just really think shes villig

Barks was on alley until I was boosted as a counterwagon to alley.

You have not once given me a

Justification

For

Why

I

Would

Lie

About

This.

Read that slow and steady.

Sound it out.

Answer me with what I had to gain from lying about this, and specifically why I would even point out I should have been notified and then lied about it.

I understand you're being pointedly obtuse for some reason, but it's ****ing annoying.

Literally nothing would happen to you if you lied. Dina died and therefore cannot say anything. Even me bringing up the mere prospect of you dying is getting little-to-no serious attention. So you have absolutely nothing to lose.

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

Barks was on alley until I was boosted as a counterwagon to alley.

a couple of thoughts on this;

i only look how the votes land at the end of the day. i realize this is flawed but the votes at 7pm are also the only votes that REALLY count and are literally life and death

and I dont see how that moves bark MORE villig? if anything that makes it fishier right?

 

[Animal Midwife]

a couple of thoughts on this;

i only look how the votes land at the end of the day. i realize this is flawed but the votes at 7pm are also the only votes that REALLY count and are literally life and death

That seems like an easy way to lose a lot of context. Remember when we talked earlier how ignoring things only benefits wolves?

and I dont see how that moves bark MORE villig? if anything that makes it fishier right?

How does it make it fishier? Also, why 7pm specifically?

 

[Trilt]

Literally nothing would happen to you if you lied. Dina died and therefore cannot say anything. Even me bringing up the mere prospect of you dying is getting little-to-no serious attention. So you have absolutely nothing to lose.

So your reason for why I potentially lied is because I could lie for no reason lol. Alrighty then.

 

[Chaostrodon]

Wasnt jboo the rez? I just assumed she was town

 

[Animal Midwife]

Wasnt jboo the rez? I just assumed she was town

jboo is the sub. Barks is her rez.

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

That seems like an easy way to lose a lot of context. Remember when we talked earlier how ignoring things only benefits wolves?

i mean i think its more nuanced than that. my brain is still in school mode so this is the only metaphor i can think of;

when youre modeling a disease, your first instinct may be to try to mathematically account for every single thing- different types of infectious interactions, different classes of suseptibles and infects, different conversion rates, etc etc
but eventually, you end up with a model SO complicated that it tells you nothing. it's much better to keep classes broad and simple, that will yield actually useful information and be a model that you can conceptualize for an experimental study

i kinda feel like this is like that. I can only account for so many moving factors before i end up with a situation where everyone is equally village and wolf, and i have no idea what to do next. so for my purposes i find it best to simplify in a few ways, and this is one of those ways

 

[Animal Midwife]

i mean i think its more nuanced than that. my brain is still in school mode so this is the only metaphor i can think of;

when youre modeling a disease, your first instinct may be to try to mathematically account for every single thing- different types of infectious interactions, different classes of suseptibles and infects, different conversion rates, etc etc
but eventually, you end up with a model SO complicated that it tells you nothing. it's much better to keep classes broad and simple, that will yield actually useful information and be a model that you can conceptualize for an experimental study

i kinda feel like this is like that. I can only account for so many moving factors before i end up with a situation where everyone is equally village and wolf, and i have no idea what to do next. so for my purposes i find it best to simplify in a few ways, and this is one of those ways

Can I have an answer for the other two questions too?

 

[Lawpy]

I'm confused.

Carry on

I agree with fresh mayos

 

[holdthemayo]

I agree with fresh mayos

 

[Lawpy]

No, we've been discussing everything together. Bound by blood. Til death do us part.

I just did in the quote you posted.

Either you lied or Dina didn't give the you a notification because she died.

I... i don't know how to respond to this

 

[Lawpy]

TOO FRESH

 

[Lawpy]

i mean i think its more nuanced than that. my brain is still in school mode so this is the only metaphor i can think of;

when youre modeling a disease, your first instinct may be to try to mathematically account for every single thing- different types of infectious interactions, different classes of suseptibles and infects, different conversion rates, etc etc
but eventually, you end up with a model SO complicated that it tells you nothing. it's much better to keep classes broad and simple, that will yield actually useful information and be a model that you can conceptualize for an experimental study

i kinda feel like this is like that. I can only account for so many moving factors before i end up with a situation where everyone is equally village and wolf, and i have no idea what to do next. so for my purposes i find it best to simplify in a few ways, and this is one of those ways

I just learned a lot of epidemiology from WW right now

 

[Lawpy]

Meh i agree with AM. The discussion is going nowhere and it's better to talk about other things instead

 

[Lawpy]

Can I have an answer for the other two questions too?

MSP is in your POE iirc?

 

[holdthemayo]

I'm too sleepy to play anymore, Daddy...

 

[Lawpy]

I'm too sleepy to play anymore, Daddy...

This... can be taken in an unexpected krasky context

 

[Lawpy]

I think the more i'm thinking i think it's better that i look into few others and see what i think

 

[Animal Midwife]

MSP is in your POE iirc?

Yes, but a bit further down than the main three.

 

[Animal Midwife]

This... can be taken in an unexpected krasky context

Don't kinkshame.

 

[Lawpy]

Yes, but a bit further down than the main three.

Did pleasy's posts worsen or improve your read on her?

 

[Trilt]

Day 2 No Gods Or Kings, Only Man Vote Tally

mayo () -
Zenge (3) - jboo, Dina, please
kata (2) - Lawpy, LIS
genny (2) - AM, Zenge
vetschoolsplz (3) - Lupin, Cray, supershorty
Sporty (2) - Trilt, Cyndia

12/22

Leading: —
Missing: most

It's kind of interesting to note that Pleasey's Zen vote - which looks really good! - was in opposition to a vote on herself.

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

Can I have an answer for the other two questions too?

I thought I did answer? Which questions?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Did pleasy's posts worsen or improve your read on her?

It's remained the same.

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

VITEMINAVEGEMIN

 

[Animal Midwife]

I thought I did answer? Which questions?

Why does Barks look worse for voting alley and why is 7pm an important time for evaluating votes?

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

MSP is in your POE iirc?

What does iirc mean
This whole time I’ve been reading it as pronounced “erk” like a frustration noise
But this tells me I’m wrong lol

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

Why does Barks look worse for voting alley and why is 7pm an important time for evaluating votes?

It’s not that barks looks worse for voting alley, it’s that moving OFF of alley doesn’t look too hot when the votes at 7 are the only ones that matter
7=close for me

 

[Lawpy]

What does iirc mean
This whole time I’ve been reading it as pronounced “erk” like a frustration noise
But this tells me I’m wrong lol

If i remember correctly

Erk is a good way to say it tho

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

If i remember correctly

Erk is a good way to say it tho

So many things make so much more sense

 

[Animal Midwife]

It’s not that barks looks worse for voting alley, it’s that moving OFF of alley doesn’t look too hot when the votes at 7 are the only ones that matter
7=close for me

wait you mean 10pm? So like legit only the final vote matters and not the fact that she tried to save me from a wolf-heavy misyeet or pushed alley >95% of the day?

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

wait you mean, 10pm? So like legit only the final vote matters and not the fact that she tried to save me from a wolf-heavy misyeet or pushed alley >95% of the day?

Nah I mean 7 pm. which is 10 est, but is dinner time for me

I’m not saying that it’s the only thing that MATTERS, I’m saying that for the sake of simplicity I’ve only taken the votes when votes close, which are the ones that decide if someone gets ded, are the only ones I’m looking at.

I’m not even saying barks is wolf I don’t understand the fixation on this

It was just one thing that counted toward bark not being my most confident read ever I don’t think there’s anything wrong w thag

 

[Lawpy]

hi! dazed and confused.
i went through and updated my vca's on everyone (i might be using the term incorrectly) and that's heavily influenced where people have moved

my villig bloc:
lupin, shorty, snow
the next "tier", the suburbs if you will; cray and lawp
the flexible end of my town maybe they have a country vacation house; AM, you (bark)
the outskirts: jaboo, trilt, chaos

the haunted house on the hill: mayo (3p, idk my metaphor's falling apart)

Then tbh MsP and samac are the only ones who havent made it into the villig bloc



for my two cents on the stuff about finding it weird for cray to push the yeet of a confirmed non-wolf;

i don't agree but i get it. i don't think its necc a bad thing but i can really see both sides here, and i don't think cray is wolfy for it

Can you explain why AM is in your neutral? read?

 

[Lawpy]

I miss pleasy's color coded reads list

 

[Lawpy]

snow; was on all 3 wolf votes and was relatively early on cyndia and alley and that would be some pretty deep bussing

cray; i left my interactions analysis not sure what to make and her vca isn't great but as counter-intuitive as it is, i find her pushing the kill it if its not villig very in line with villig cray. im pretty sure she's village but im willing to reevaluate

AM is where she be mostly from salt. I think her vca looks pretty ok esp since she was first on cyn

bark actually got moved down a little bit from vca- i have "has been on no woof votes, despite being present for two of them, usually in the first couple of wagons" and it was the "hasn't been on any wolf votes" part that bothered me a little bit. again, i think bark is most likely village but if it comes down to me, barks, and like shorty im gonna think its bark

jaboo is where they are bc i read the tone villig BUT i didn't like their vca- i have" usually mid to late wagon, only on 1 wolf vote (z)" and i feel like the mid-late wagon thing isnt great

*edited to add paragraph breaks and delete my little list at the top of who shorty was talking abt

Wait i just saw this. AM is in your neutral read because of salt?

 

[Trilt]

I did some quick ISOing and reading and I think this is my current sitiation revised from this morning:

Most Sketch
Pleasey
MsP
Cray
Lupes
Lawps
LIS
Chaos,
Katamac
Shorty
Jboo
Barks
AM
Least Sketch

On quick read through I couldn't find any small things on either MsP (still lacking a lot of content) or Pleasey to lean them more village, so the distinction is mostly ~vibes~.

##lynch pleasey##

 

[Lawpy]

I did some quick ISOing and reading and I think this is my current sitiation revised from this morning:

Most Sketch
Pleasey
MsP
Cray
Lupes
Lawps
LIS
Chaos,
Katamac
Shorty
Jboo
Barks
AM
Least Sketch

On quick read through I couldn't find any small things on either MsP (still lacking a lot of content) or Pleasey to lean them more village, so the distinction is mostly ~vibes~.

##lynch pleasey##

Why is lupins closer to your most sketch side