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[Chaostrodon]

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ok here we go again:


April:

You’re seriously jumping on a bandwagon of attacking me for being online at yeet close?

I’d like you to expand on this and please, be as specific as possible.



jaboo:

I had added plenty of posts and content throughout the day. I made it clear why I was voting where I was, and had no plans to change, and I didn’t change.

You’re making me out to be sketchy simply because I was actively reading the thread, and not posting anything for all of 38 minutes while I was eating dinner.

I’m not going to keep fighting with you about this because it’s unproductive, but it’s a pretty ridiculous attack IMO.



Sport :

I’d appreciate it if you would at least read my posts before just voting for me blindly. Here’s my latest write up on my wolf reads
I’m happy to answer any questions.

I’d also appreciate if you would also consider the argument given for yeeting me, by the person leading my wagon, was that I was reading the thread, but not posting anything for a total of 38 minutes during the last yeet close.

I really wish someone on this thread would at least acknowledge how ridiculous that is.



LIS:

I brought it up twice because I was first directly asked about you, and then secondly, misunderstood shorty's intention of asking me about Alissa, assuming it related to your bringing it up. I didn't mention other people because I wasn't analyzing who all was making the same points, I was asked about you specifically.

I tend to be very wordy so what I wrote actually was my version of "huh, not sure what else to make of LIS, and this is all I've got".



He is retaliatory attacking every one that voted for him , and putting the blame on them . Except for LIS , he is a lot more apologetic wrt to LIS

 

[Animal Midwife]

Person of Silence
pawprints
alley
kata

 

[Lawpy]

I'm not pressuring people to be active. The minimum should cull the weak.

I'm pressuring them to not zeropost until after 8pm again this cycle. I want the silenced player in broad daylight and not hidden in last-minute shuffling.

Regarding the Vis wagon, I moved to her because mayo started a wagon to overpower Cyndia forcing me to move. Then Vis also didn't vote Cyndia.

Look at the progression on the trackers and who was voting where.

Ok but isn't tracking the Person of Silence like you're doing the way to go rather than setting an arbitrary deadline?

Were you wolfreading vissy harder than alleys?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Ok but isn't tracking the Person of Silence like you're doing the way to go rather than setting an arbitrary deadline?

No, because I don't want the last person showing up at 9:55 for the first time and having five minutes to shift to the silenced person amongst the inevitable page bloat and burial of information.

Were you wolfreading vissy harder than alleys?

Yes because her analysis omitted any non-tainted interactions with Zenge. I thought it was intentional.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I'm not even asking them to make real contributions by 6pm (though it would be immensely more helpful if they did). I just want confirmation of whether they're the blocker or not.

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

Hmm. Pleasy/AM looks W/V to me.

exchangeable order or are you wolfreading me?
(I haven't read anything since this afternoon I just saw this notification)

 

[Lawpy]

exchangeable order or are you wolfreading me?
(I haven't read anything since this afternoon I just saw this notification)

Exchangeable

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

Alrighty. I'm back to work again.

lynch kata because I'm still there.

Ok with: Alley, Cyndia, Chaos, AM

If Kata is not on the realistic pile, I'll (pending reading the new posts between now and then) be jumping to one of those four if they are lynchable.

why isn't pawprints on the flip list? (if you already said why my b, point me in the general time zone/page number please)

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

Was zenge voting for please? Because please mentioned multiple times D1 that they had zenge as village and then immediately flipped that read once D2 started. And since we’re pretty sure wolves would have gotten a notification about the seering it’s pretty suspicious

I think "immediately" is a bit extreme. I thought I made my thought processes pretty clear, where at the beginning of the day (beginning meaning when I was caught up, particularly after shorty's iso) I leaned wolfread on zenge

and then the post where you ask if anyone had commented on my zenge progression I feel really misrepresented what happened

AM's post asking if I changed my mind on z was not after me saying i was wolfreading him (and the way it's laid out makes it look like I doubled back on my read of him). It was in response to me yeeting genny instead of my top wolf read, which i also had to explain to oblivion

 

[Animal Midwife]

So umm , no one has any thoughts on the stuff I posted about Zenge interactions?

I thought they were interesting. I'm just having mixed feelings about kata and LIS voting for her two days in a row.

 

[kaydubs]

Day 4 Smoke and Mirrors Vote Tally

katashark (2) - Lawpy, LIS
Cyndia (1) - AM
alleycat (1) - Lupin
AM (2) - supershorty, mayo
pawprints&ponytails (1) - vetschoolsplz
vetschoolsplz (1) - Barks

8/19

Missing: a lot

Deadline: 10pm EST on 3/8/21 (~23.5 hours)

 

[Barkley13]

I think "immediately" is a bit extreme. I thought I made my thought processes pretty clear, where at the beginning of the day (beginning meaning when I was caught up, particularly after shorty's iso) I leaned wolfread on zenge

and then the post where you ask if anyone had commented on my zenge progression I feel really misrepresented what happened

AM's post asking if I changed my mind on z was not after me saying i was wolfreading him (and the way it's laid out makes it look like I doubled back on my read of him). It was in response to me yeeting genny instead of my top wolf read, which i also had to explain to oblivion

From what I saw on your ISO, you were reading zenge as village all of D1 and then when D2 started you moved him to wolf in your first post of the day. And AMs comment and your response were quoted to show how you didn’t vote zenge but also made it sound like you were sure of him being wolf

 

[Chaostrodon]

I thought they were interesting. I'm just having mixed feelings about kata and LIS voting for her two days in a row.

Voting for who?

 

[Dinashadow]

yeet kata

 

[Animal Midwife]

Voting for who?

He's voting for kata who's also been making me increasingly uncomfortable.

 

[Trilt]

ok here we go again:


April:

You’re seriously jumping on a bandwagon of attacking me for being online at yeet close?

I’d like you to expand on this and please, be as specific as possible.



jaboo:

I had added plenty of posts and content throughout the day. I made it clear why I was voting where I was, and had no plans to change, and I didn’t change.

You’re making me out to be sketchy simply because I was actively reading the thread, and not posting anything for all of 38 minutes while I was eating dinner.

I’m not going to keep fighting with you about this because it’s unproductive, but it’s a pretty ridiculous attack IMO.



Sport :

I’d appreciate it if you would at least read my posts before just voting for me blindly. Here’s my latest write up on my wolf reads
I’m happy to answer any questions.

I’d also appreciate if you would also consider the argument given for yeeting me, by the person leading my wagon, was that I was reading the thread, but not posting anything for a total of 38 minutes during the last yeet close.

I really wish someone on this thread would at least acknowledge how ridiculous that is.



LIS:

I brought it up twice because I was first directly asked about you, and then secondly, misunderstood shorty's intention of asking me about Alissa, assuming it related to your bringing it up. I didn't mention other people because I wasn't analyzing who all was making the same points, I was asked about you specifically.

I tend to be very wordy so what I wrote actually was my version of "huh, not sure what else to make of LIS, and this is all I've got".



He is retaliatory attacking every one that voted for him , and putting the blame on them . Except for LIS , he is a lot more apologetic wrt to LIS

I'm not following what this post is meaning

 

[genny]

He is retaliatory attacking every one that voted for him , and putting the blame on them . Except for LIS , he is a lot more apologetic wrt to LIS

I just assumed subconscious gender politics were at play, since LIS and Zenge are male and the other 3 players are women. But sure, I could see it as not wanting to throw too much shade at a fellow wolf.

 

[Dinashadow]

I don’t know that I see please and alley in a pack. Anyone have that thought likely w/v there

Not sure, but I remember finding it weird that alley was sure of pleasy being village D1 and had filed them away as possible W/W at the time. But seems less likely as time has passed

I'll just flat out tell you that I am not the (a?) Big Daddy.

Oh I wasn't saying you were, I was just trying to translate cyndia's post.

 

[genny]

yeet kata

kata over alley?

 

[Dinashadow]

kata over alley?

idk yet. As soon as I put the vote down for kata I thought about switching to alley, but I've been focused on alley a lot, so I thought I'd try something different for now.

Today was a long irl day so I haven't had a long time to think about this game. I liked a lot of barks points though, especially looking at the alissa vote from D1 kinda makes me want to switch. I think I would go alley > pleasy, not sure about mayo

 

[Trilt]

Of the quiet ones, I like the kata vote best.

Lynch kata


Alley still had the couple small things nudging her light village on my iso from last cycle. Pawprints just has jack **** to analyze - looks like she was below post minimum yesterday cycle, and what she did post focused a bunch on an item (?):

I do, I have an audio diary I picked up the other night. I don’t know who recorded the diary, but on it they mentioned seeing their Mia and she was different! She was messing with a corpse and wasn’t acting her usual self, it what appears to be a negative way. Almost like she is brainwashed/turned? I don’t really know much about the game as it’s truly played but leads me to think that people can become a wolf.

I’m on Mobile traveling back to my house tonight.

Which I kinda missed that whole convo when it happened, but in retrospect it kind of sounds like a parent recording about their daughter turned little sister. In game they're found stabbing corpses, and we have a game focus in several write-ups about lost daughters.

But I digress. Paws reads genuinely mostly nooby to me, and close to risking mod wrath if she doesn't show up and do some work this cycle at the very least.

 

[Lawpy]

All these Paws nicknames for pawprints make me think @JustPaws is playing

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

I wanna go down the roster and, as time allots, look at every person's interactions w Z.
AM's up first because alphabetical order

Spoiler: Day 1

You should really be salt voting AM for having pockets so deep they’re criminal.🤣

Yeet AM

AM vote, at like 6:30 am. doesn't do any real harm to her, doesn't do her any favors

I just realized MsP is playing this game. I probably would have been blissfully unaware too, until 5 minutes to yeet close when she comes on with a flurry of posts to meet requirements, a suspicious amount of thread knowledge, and vote to make a tie. I’m not sure my stomach lining can take the chaos that is MsP.

UNYEET AM
YEET MsP

then around 7:45 am moves off of AM in a very over-explainy way

Yes. That’s why I’m voting for Msp. Ba dum tssss.

in response to AM's voting for chaos, making the joke that MsP is chaotic

So I saw in your previously stated reasoning.

You can say that, but I think Genny still has the carbon copies from the rent checks she was writing.

more harmless joking but it's pretty early day 1, so everyone is joking

I sort of read it as Lupin trying to obfuscate and distract from the weird clearing of April by misdirecting into a conversation about AM’s salt wagon.

I read this as calling attention to AM simple misdirection of conversation

Yes, my readslist currently looks like this.

Lawpy
shorty
MsP
Lupin
mkg
alley
Barks
chaos
Cray
Zenge
sunshine
Dina
please
alissa
April
genny

Z is squarely in AM's middle between village and wolf

Do you have thoughts on the other players that were talking about it? Because it wasn't just Zenge.

this could be soft-defense of zenge, or just trying to get mayo to talk more about his thoughts. not sure which

Approaching this from the perspective of reading AM village, there's some things about Genny's interactions here that remind me of that and ping me as wolfy, but also some things that ping me as village. In that game there were some things that really stood out to me, and I kept pushing on and I'm not seeing that much here. For wolfy case on Genny the biggest thing is pushing AM when AM is reading so different from the last game, implying shes village. She didn't vote to yeet though, and I'm not sure if that better or worse? Casting suspicion and not following through isn't good, but since AM is clearly different to me than last game aka shes village now, to me, actually voting AM wouldn't seem good either. Overall it's a pretty weak case for calling Genny a wolf. The village case is a little stronger. I really liked this post Since I'm reading both April and AM with village leans, this attempt to deescalate the situation, and try and get the village on track read genuine to me.

whole buncha words saying AM is village

Since you’re the only one currently voting for Genny, and you placed your vote before this exchange happened, I’m wondering what your thoughts are on Genny’s refusal to form reads when Shorty pressed her here Specifically if this is something you’ve also seen her do when wolfing before?

I’d also like to hear your current thoughts on MsP. It’s starting to feel like she only came on the thread to defend herself and make it seem like she’s making an effort, but then hasn’t been back, and I’m starting to not feel great about it.

Just dropping by, but the fluff read was from alissa not mkg.

Poor thoughts. genny started off the day with a read and lost it by she came back without ever talking about why it swung to the other side.

She muddles her reads more frequently while wolfing early on. Not to say she can't be confused as a villager, but I do think she's capable of identifying as least a couple village reads given the level of discussion yesterday.

I'm still giving her a D1 pass. It's not anywhere near the strength and stability of my Lawpy read, but it's enough to take her out of my policy yeet category should she come back later today with just as strong content.

very diplomatic exchange

the only time where AM seems to question Z in any way, and its very gentle and doesn't really throw shade on him imo:

Aren't there only three votes for her?

in response to z saying he didn't like the quick build of a wagon on me

Yes. I'm just questioning why three is too many votes to you.

It’s not that it’s too many, per se. It’s that I’m wolf leaning Barks and neutral on Dina, and feel like they they joined on really fast considering we hadn’t even heard from a large number of players at the time.

this is all abt the wagon that built on me, an AM was questioning his wording in "wagon". I think this could be a way to interact on the thread that has both of them come away neutral

Also since AM is voting for her, with her own reasoning for her read, and I’m reading AM as village, I’m inclined to trust AM’s instinct on this.

more AM is village

Yeah, I really don’t get why you’re picking this fight with AM again. AM isn’t playing anything like she did last game.

small defense of AM

@Animal Midwife same question.

Not sure. I still have a slight village lean on mkg, but I somewhat understand where Cyndia is coming from. No read on Cyndia herself yet though.

more interacting. I'm noticing that while Z is picking apart a lot of other people's words and stuff, all of his interactions w AM stay pretty surface and don't cast anything but neutral on either of them

I don’t know, I just don’t get why you can’t just let it go and move on. Exaggerating that you were having a heart attack is a really minute thing to get hung up on.

But yes, you didn’t continue to argue with her. When I wrote that I wasn’t sure that’s where things were headed. I really don’t think a repeat of yesterday is productive. I’m glad we’re not going there.

more could be a defense of AM

What made you choose Zenge specifically?

in response to genny's vote on zenge
I think it's worth noting that they aren't talking much as we get later in the cycle of D1, but Z is talkin w everyone else. at the time of me writing this (around and before 6 pm on tuesday in my reading) they're voting together on genny

coming away from day 1, I'm noticing a lot of interacting with each other that is very diplomatic and talks about other people. I also noticed some potential subtle AM defenses from Z. Something I didn't really notice before was that we all focused on the vote ONTO MsP being overexplainy, but I think it's possible that what was overexplained was the reason of moving OFF of a joke vote.

Day 1 also made me lean more and more genny/Z and genny/AM not being w/w. helping genny move up on my sheet

Spoiler: Day 2

Did you change your mind on Zenge?

asking if i changed my wolfread on him

i also wanna note that during this, im gonna do my best to consider both if the wolves knew he was seerd and if he was not.

I was leaning wolf because I thought the AM quick vote switch is a weird thing to get hung up on, and as it turns out she was telling the truth.

I do not.

in response to being asked if she thinks genny/z are w/w. doesn't really specify how she feels about the possible interaction beyond that, therefore keeps her stance on z neutral. fits with both the wolves knowing and wolves not.

I don't see where anyone restricted it to five. Just surprised you hate all of them. What are your reasons for village reading kata and Zenge?

a way for her to question a zenge village read, without village reading him or not herself

Everyone who died has suspected Zenge or AM, and I'm having a hard time deciding if that's a real thing or just an attempt to push a misyeet on me or Zenge today, and then the other one of us tomorrow.

hmmmm

I'm also confused about this. Can't comment on Zenge, as I'd have to relook, but off the top of my head, I remember:

not defending him, not sus'in him

He's in a weird spot for me. The points that have been brought up against him by others I'm reading as village seem pretty valid. The issue is I can't see him with genny. I'm village reading him because he's pushing genny. I am hoping he's more active tomorrow though.

lets her be able to switch to a wolf read as soon as she needs to.

then there was the whole debacle between AM and Mayo about genny voting on zenge yesterday vs today

FORCLOSED DUE TO HIGHER PRIORITIES WITH FLIPPED WOLF

i didn't see this till just now. i just found this amusing lol

I just wanted to ask @Zenge142 if he thinks AM is the kind of player who is unable to alter her play style from game to game. Just something to keep in mind. If she gets me yeeted.

points out a flaw in z's village read of AM

I mean, my depth of knowledge of what AM is capable of is obviously limited, it's only my 4th game. But it was clear to me that she was wolfing last game, and she doesn't seem to be doing that this game. Is she capable of changing her playstyle? Sure. It's posts like this though that really stand out to be as village!AM She makes a compelling case about Mayo here. She put in a lot of effort towards building that case and it seems like genuine wolf hunting. That says village to me, and especially because I didn't see anything even remotely similar to that in GGoats when she was wolfing.

defense of AM mostly based on her village meta, but there has been some pointing out that she doesn't precisely fit her village meta this fame, which i don't think is adressed very deeply here besides "idk peoples tones change"

I look forward to seeing what you come up with. I’m certainly willing to admit I’m wrong, but there’s a clear difference in the play styles between the two games for sure.

I don’t think the over the top bragging about how great she is and how she’s vital to village is normal AM wolfing. I think when you analyze her wolfing in that game you need to cut that out of the equation. Because there’s no way that was normal for AM wolfing. Vets would have called her out immediately if that kind of over the top boasting was what she usually does when she’s wolfing.

i think this is kinda hedgey on her. it avoids like... further consideration of wolf AM kinda? Like he just talks about wolf AM last game, and how she doesn't look like that this time, but he guesses she like could change her style

@Zenge142 Do you have an updated read on genny in light of her recent posts?

Any reason why you’re making a post trying to look like you’re agreeing with good arguments against AM, but liking her non-defense?

and i oop

Pack hunting is only an issue if there are unknown deepwolves/powerwolves in standard wolf wagon situations. That additional nuance is needed for whether they can be clear or not. I've had a lot of success with pack building over the years. It's best to work on improving at it so wolves are one further step behind (it takes more intricate levels of deception to create fake packs than giving individual or unanimous reads).

commenting on a post mostly about zenge, without commenting ON z

TLDR early it looked to me like AM was maybe collaborating with z and trying to pocket lawpy, but ISOing her made me feel less suspicious of her since her wolfhunting looks more sincere than I remembered, and because I think genny is the most wolfy player and they’re incompatible imo

this is an interesting post by visc, esp. considering the notion of loud notifications.

Do you have updated thoughts on Zenge as well?

Thanks for the info. Now I can worry about whether wolves were notified or not.

and this is where im gonna stop. AM could be planting WIFOM here.

I also wanna note that z started shading me day 1. that would be some DEEP bussin'.

So, coming away from both days, whether wolves were notified or not, AM/Z w/w is CERTAINLY possible, and imo, likely.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I wanna go down the roster and, as time allots, look at every person's interactions w Z.
AM's up first because alphabetical order

Spoiler: Day 1

AM vote, at like 6:30 am. doesn't do any real harm to her, doesn't do her any favors

then around 7:45 am moves off of AM in a very over-explainy way

in response to AM's voting for chaos, making the joke that MsP is chaotic


more harmless joking but it's pretty early day 1, so everyone is joking



I read this as calling attention to AM simple misdirection of conversation


Z is squarely in AM's middle between village and wolf


this could be soft-defense of zenge, or just trying to get mayo to talk more about his thoughts. not sure which


whole buncha words saying AM is village



very diplomatic exchange

the only time where AM seems to question Z in any way, and its very gentle and doesn't really throw shade on him imo:

in response to z saying he didn't like the quick build of a wagon on me


this is all abt the wagon that built on me, an AM was questioning his wording in "wagon". I think this could be a way to interact on the thread that has both of them come away neutral


more AM is village

small defense of AM



more interacting. I'm noticing that while Z is picking apart a lot of other people's words and stuff, all of his interactions w AM stay pretty surface and don't cast anything but neutral on either of them

more could be a defense of AM

in response to genny's vote on zenge
I think it's worth noting that they aren't talking much as we get later in the cycle of D1, but Z is talkin w everyone else. at the time of me writing this (around and before 6 pm on tuesday in my reading) they're voting together on genny

coming away from day 1, I'm noticing a lot of interacting with each other that is very diplomatic and talks about other people. I also noticed some potential subtle AM defenses from Z. Something I didn't really notice before was that we all focused on the vote ONTO MsP being overexplainy, but I think it's possible that what was overexplained was the reason of moving OFF of a joke vote.

Day 1 also made me lean more and more genny/Z and genny/AM not being w/w. helping genny move up on my sheet

Spoiler: Day 2

asking if i changed my wolfread on him

i also wanna note that during this, im gonna do my best to consider both if the wolves knew he was seerd and if he was not.



in response to being asked if she thinks genny/z are w/w. doesn't really specify how she feels about the possible interaction beyond that, therefore keeps her stance on z neutral. fits with both the wolves knowing and wolves not.


a way for her to question a zenge village read, without village reading him or not herself

hmmmm

not defending him, not sus'in him

lets her be able to switch to a wolf read as soon as she needs to.

then there was the whole debacle between AM and Mayo about genny voting on zenge yesterday vs today


i didn't see this till just now. i just found this amusing lol

points out a flaw in z's village read of AM

defense of AM mostly based on her village meta, but there has been some pointing out that she doesn't precisely fit her village meta this fame, which i don't think is adressed very deeply here besides "idk peoples tones change"

i think this is kinda hedgey on her. it avoids like... further consideration of wolf AM kinda? Like he just talks about wolf AM last game, and how she doesn't look like that this time, but he guesses she like could change her style



and i oop


commenting on a post mostly about zenge, without commenting ON z

this is an interesting post by visc, esp. considering the notion of loud notifications.


and this is where im gonna stop. AM could be planting WIFOM here.

I also wanna note that z started shading me day 1. that would be some DEEP bussin'.

So, coming away from both days, whether wolves were notified or not, AM/Z w/w is CERTAINLY possible, and imo, likely.

When exactly would Zenge have been bussing you? He never voted for you and, once you started becoming a viable wagon on D1, he commented about how it was "too fast" and no longer wanted anything to do with it.

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

When exactly would Zenge have been bussing you? He never voted for you and, once you started becoming a viable wagon on D1, he commented about how it was "too fast" and no longer wanted anything to do with it.

Ok.
More technicalities, I don’t feel like it’s far fetched to call a wolf continuously sus’ing another bussing, but I suppose you do
I’ll amend my statement, zenge began sus’ing me day 1 and I don’t think that exactly implies w/w

 

[Animal Midwife]

Ok.
More technicalities, I don’t feel like it’s far fetched to call a wolf continuously sus’ing another bussing, but I suppose you do
I’ll amend my statement, zenge began sus’ing me day 1 and I don’t think that exactly implies w/w

Okay, where was he continually suspecting you? I only remember the interaction where he got uncomfortable with the size of your wagon.

 

[Chaostrodon]

I just assumed subconscious gender politics were at play, since LIS and Zenge are male and the other 3 players are women. But sure, I could see it as not wanting to throw too much shade at a fellow wolf.

Tf? Is this a joke

Nice collection of AM/ Zenge interactions , what do you think of LIS/Lawpy wrt to Zenge interactions @vetschoolsletmeinpls

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

Okay, where was he continually suspecting you? I only remember the interaction where he got uncomfortable with the size of your wagon.

I’m on my phone bc is bed time but here are a couple from a cursory search;

I don't like that Pleasy's only real additions here have been the above sus of Lupin (potentially rescinded) and then describing the April/AM interaction as either W/W, W/V, or V/V, as stated here: This all seems super hedgy, and lacks real analysis. So pleasy is currently higher up on my wolf reads.

I’m not feeling the best about pleasey, but I also don’t like how fast the wagon seemed to build after Cray voted there.

How do you feel about Dina who’s also sitting on that vote?

She's got a lot of issues that I'm reading as wolfy. It's pretty much all been said, both by me in my ISO of the Barks/Pleasy interactions, and a lot else, better articulated by other people also wolf reading her.

My biggest hesitation at the moment was this post here This really did read like 'frustrated villager" to me, but I'm also a sucker for that stuff. I bought Samac's "feeling sorry about yeeting me" in GGoats hook line and sinker.

It’s a lot more sus than he’s given you

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

Tf? Is this a joke

Nice collection of AM/ Zenge interactions , what do you think of LIS/Lawpy wrt to Zenge interactions @vetschoolsletmeinpls

WRT??
I haven’t had the chance to look at those people freshly yet since they’re pretty far down the roster but I do have in my like general notes that z/LIS aren’t w/w
Idk about lawpy yet but lawpy isn’t really in my considerations for wolf

 

[Chaostrodon]

Looks like Im not gonna convince anyone abt LIS anytime soon , Id rather

vote AM

than a lynch that gives 0 info and looks like a easy push from scum

 

[Chaostrodon]

WRT??
I haven’t had the chance to look at those people freshly yet since they’re pretty far down the roster but I do have in my like general notes that z/LIS aren’t w/w
Idk about lawpy yet but lawpy isn’t really in my considerations for wolf

with respect to

 

[Animal Midwife]

I’m on my phone bc is bed time but here are a couple from a cursory search;






It’s a lot more sus than he’s given you

I can count the first one as suspicion, but I'd hardly call this continual bussing/suspicion given quote #2 happened ~10 hours later... The last two seem very hedgey. In the end, he votes for genny even though your wagon had more people on it.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Looks like Im not gonna convince anyone abt LIS anytime soon , Id rather

vote AM

than a lynch that gives 0 info and looks like a easy push from scum

Which yeet are you referring to giving zero info?

 

[Chaostrodon]

katashark

 

[Animal Midwife]

katashark

Have you been following the issue with the double block?

 

[Trilt]

So I presume that makes AM wolfy to you, as well? With the "you are to respond or you are anti-village" nonsense?

I don't think these two are equivalent at all and I think it wasn't clear to you why AM was doing a roll call. (I also missed this quote on initial wake up this evening, sorry).

We have a suspected side effect of an item that causes silencing after it allows you to act twice in a night. We had two of the same block overnight with flair different from the (now dead) village blocker.

So no, trying to make people check in so that a wolf that we suspect is silenced can't hide in a mass of quiet players is not sketchy to me.

 

[Trilt]

So I presume that makes AM wolfy to you, as well? With the "you are to respond or you are anti-village" nonsense?

Also just want to add that I didn't even actually say Lupes' actions were wolfy - just that I strongly disagreed with her that we OBVIOUSLY should be village reading her and if we aren't, it's suspicious. Because I think that's kinda bull.

 

[Chaostrodon]

No , I actually missed that , Ill hold my vote until you figure out whatever you want to

unvote AM

 

[Animal Midwife]

No , I actually missed that , Ill hold my vote until you figure out whatever you want to

unvote AM

Well, you're free to vote anywhere else (or for kata) in the meanwhile. I'd rather more votes were visible for gauging movement anyway. Just wanted to let you know we've narrowed the silencing down to three players.

Outside of this though, kata has been just hitting the post minimum on the nose. The only time she exceeded it was during Zenge's yeet on D2. So in light of all her pushes being on villagers, plus that, I think pressure is warranted there.

 

[supershorty]

Man, some of y'all are picking fights just to pick fights. I'm not particularly interested in defending AM given that I'm wolf reading her, but in the roll call post, she did say she was talking about MONDAY - it wasn't the same as when she was ambiguous earlier. I understand there's some past beef there, but scuffling over that isn't going to help us win this game. (sorry, this is a little delayed, getting caught up so responding to some stuff from last night)

Person of Silence
pawprints
alley
kata

Great, narrowed down to 3 of the people who post the least anyway and tend to come online closer to when yeet closes. So if multiples haven't posted/liked by the arbitrary AM cutoff, we probably should ping them again.

I do really like the idea of going after the presumed silenced blocker given that genny and Dina got different wording in their block notifications than Trilt and I did when Sporty blocked us. I'm willing to move my vote there today.

 

[Lupin21]

Man, some of y'all are picking fights just to pick fights. I'm not particularly interested in defending AM given that I'm wolf reading her, but in the roll call post, she did say she was talking about MONDAY - it wasn't the same as when she was ambiguous earlier. I understand there's some past beef there, but scuffling over that isn't going to help us win this game. (sorry, this is a little delayed, getting caught up so responding to some stuff from last night)


Great, narrowed down to 3 of the people who post the least anyway and tend to come online closer to when yeet closes. So if multiples haven't posted/liked by the arbitrary AM cutoff, we probably should ping them again.

I do really like the idea of going after the presumed silenced blocker given that genny and Dina got different wording in their block notifications than Trilt and I did when Sporty blocked us. I'm willing to move my vote there today.

Sorry, a bit scattered in my brain, but when were you blocked?

 

[supershorty]

Sorry, a bit scattered in my brain, but when were you blocked?

N1

 

[Animal Midwife]

@Crayola227 Just to be 100% sure, you aren't post restricted in any way right? I haven't heard from you this cycle outside the likes.

 

[Barkley13]

@Crayola227 Just to be 100% sure, you aren't post restricted in any way right? I haven't heard from you this cycle outside the likes.

I was also getting concerned about this

 

[supershorty]

It looks like Cray liked some early posts on D4 (the night results and a couple of others), and she liked my post last night about not being online the rest of the night (but I'd starred it so not sure how to interpret that), but not the normal like-fest that I'm used to seeing from her.

 

[pawprintsandponytails]

I'm going to ping you, and you are to like this post (or respond to it) by the end of the afternoon Monday so we can see who's silenced. Avoiding/delaying either is anti-village.

@pawprintsandponytails @holdthemayo @Crayola227 @vetschoolsletmeinplease @Ms Procrastinator @alleycat03 @katashark @Chaostrodon @LetItSnow

I'm not silenced, currently at work with a breakfast break reading to catch up. the last 24 in real life have been a **** show into the fan..

I know folks are leaning me wolfy but I'm not sure the best way to convey that I am not, my crappy player analysis doesn't seem to help. I feel like if my wolf justifications aren't valid enough based on the history of games most of you have played with other people it's deemed garbage but I digress.


But I am trying to share the information from the audio diary I picked up because I think it points out that someone in the game has changed and wasn't what they appeared. Who came back from the dead? Could they be a wolf now? That's speculation from the audio diary.

 

[supershorty]

Here are the only posts that Cray has liked during this day cycle. Mostly mod posts and things that aren't strategy/game play. That worries me.

Spoiler

Night 3

Frank Fontaine is just a bully with more power than he ever deserved, and I'll show him and his kind just what happens when they mess with my utopia.

He walked through the gardens of Arcadia. He'd always enjoyed a late-night stroll, especially here, the flowers in bloom and the trees lit up. His head throbbed, a side effect of splicing up, but it was worth it, he thought, for a little extra power in this war. He caught sight of a large figure among the plants, and positioned himself behind a tree. Took aim and...BOOM. The blast knocked the big guy back. He shook his helmeted head, stunned, and then growled, turning to find the source of the attack. But in a moment, another figure had his attention. This one sprinted around behind the Big Daddy, eyes trained on the small figure he was protecting. But he was too slow, and was soon under fire.

"Hurt 'im, Mr. B! Hurt 'im! Tear 'im into little bits!"

The splicer watched from his position behind the tree, more than a little alarmed. He didn't want to get involved after seeing how his power paled in comparison to the Big Daddy's strength. He turned to creep back along the path and make his way back to Athena's Glory. But in a moment, he felt a knife slide into his spine.

Dead is @SportPonies, who was Sonny Engquist, a village blocker.

~~~

So many people in Rapture only care about themselves and what they can get from the people around them. It's not what I would call a utopia, more like all the worst parts of society concentrated into one city. No one embodies that self-absorbed attitude more than Frank Fontaine. So sure, I'll do what I can to bring down his organization, and in the meantime I'll help my fellow human...even the ones who are a little too spliced up to remember who they are.

He laid in bed, the smell of cigarette smoke slowly dissipating. The high had been fantastic, but then he'd been stuck in bed all day, all but coughing his lungs up. Had it been worth it? At the moment, it didn't seem like it. He rolled over, and in that moment thought he heard the door to his room open. His eyelids were heavy, and opened slow, and with effort. It took a moment to register what he was seeing. The point of a knife, and behind it, a wide smile.

Dead is @mkg323, who was Ruben Townsley, a village protector.

It is now Day 4. Deadline is tomorrow, March 8th, at 10pm EST.

19 players remain
Please note roster movement.

Neptune's Bounty
1. @Animal Midwife
2. @Barkley13
4. @Dinashadow
5. @pawprintsandponytails
17. @Cyndia

Arcadia
6. @Trilt
7. @holdthemayo
8. @Crayola227
9. @vetschoolsletmeinplease

Fort Frolic
11. @supershorty
12. @Lawpy

Hephaestus
15. @genny

Olympus Heights
19. @Ms Procrastinator
21. @alleycat03
22. LaineyLou ---> @jaboo

Point Prometheus
23. @katashark
24. @Chaostrodon
25. @LetItSnow
26. @Lupin21

Dead
alissa - vanillager
april - village thief
barks - village weapons expert
sunshine - vanillager
zenge - wolf seer
Vis - village tracker
mkg - village protector
sporty - village blocker

Subs:
1. @samac

Tots:
1. @Doggo Labs
2. @kraskadva
3. @ArteryStudyPainting​

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Spoiler: Go village

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This game makes me depressed

Day 4 Smoke and Mirrors Vote Tally

katashark (1) - Lawpy
Cyndia (1) - AM
alleycat (1) - Lupin
AM (1) - supershorty

4/19
Deadline: 10pm EST on 3/8/21 (~34.5 hours)

Well I hate this imagery.

Day 4 Smoke and Mirrors Vote Tally

katashark (1) - Lawpy
Cyndia (1) - AM
alleycat (1) - Lupin
AM (1) - supershorty

4/19
Deadline: 10pm EST on 3/8/21 (~33 hours)

Spoiler

You're doing a great job so far!

i think it's very funny that i like to open PMs in games, and i end up in a group by myself.

Day 4 Smoke and Mirrors Vote Tally

katashark (1) - Lawpy
Cyndia (1) - AM
alleycat (1) - Lupin
AM (1) - supershorty

4/19

Missing: a lot

Deadline: 10pm EST on 3/8/21 (~31.5 hours)

Oh no! Eclinic yesterday I had a sweet golden that had unknown exposure with presenting puffed face. So sad but cute. Still happy when she responded to Benedetto injection and dex!

Good grief autocorrect is annoying lol

Day 4 Smoke and Mirrors Vote Tally

katashark (1) - Lawpy
Cyndia (1) - AM
alleycat (1) - Lupin
AM (1) - supershorty
pawprints&ponytails (1) - vetschoolsplz
vetschoolsplz (1) - Barks

6/19

Missing: a lot

Deadline: 10pm EST on 3/8/21 (~27.25 hours)

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One of my IRL friends came to surprise visit me and it's the first in person social interaction I'm getting in a long time, so not going to be online this evening.
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Day 4 Smoke and Mirrors Vote Tally

katashark (2) - Lawpy, LIS
Cyndia (1) - AM
alleycat (1) - Lupin
AM (1) - supershorty
pawprints&ponytails (1) - vetschoolsplz
vetschoolsplz (1) - Barks

7/19

Missing: a lot

Deadline: 10pm EST on 3/8/21 (~26 hours)

 

[Barkley13]

Who came back from the dead? Could they be a wolf now?

I doubt it tbh

 

[Animal Midwife]

I'm not silenced, currently at work with a breakfast break reading to catch up. the last 24 in real life have been a **** show into the fan..

I know folks are leaning me wolfy but I'm not sure the best way to convey that I am not, my crappy player analysis doesn't seem to help. I feel like if my wolf justifications aren't valid enough based on the history of games most of you have played with other people it's deemed garbage but I digress.


But I am trying to share the information from the audio diary I picked up because I think it points out that someone in the game has changed and wasn't what they appeared. Who came back from the dead? Could they be a wolf now? That's speculation from the audio diary.

I wouldn't convert hunt just yet when many originals still exist.

 

[Barkley13]

Person of Silence
pawprints
alley
kata

so now
alley
kata
cray?