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Boy, that video brings back memories.

 

[SportPonies]

Page 14 thoughts:
I don't think April and Zenge are in a pack together.

I need to pause here for now. Might crank out a few more pages from bed on my phone. Need to do some other stuff first.

 

[holdthemayo]

Dude are you serious here? This post makes no sense. I didn't call sunshiny's play lazy. I said many times that i'm railing against lazy reads that involve repeating someone's reasoning and using that as their own with nothing else to add. That is lazy. And yet i'm getting criticized because i'm getting misread. Your accusation that i'm being a dingus and not wolfhunting is uncalled for.

Yes. I'm serious.

And you didn't call her gameplay lazy?

It's not confusing. It's lazy play and i'm criticizing it because it's easy to sheep along established reasoning to avoid posting original thoughts. I'm not sure why you're taking issue with me railing against lazy play? For the record, i don't think aprils is wolf even though she raised concerns about wolf!AM. There's a difference

so then the other people who observe the exact same thing should just invent something? Not sure how its lazy play to accurately put forth your thoughts and observations and have concordance with other villagers. Just like someone mentioned building a village block via reads consensus. I get that a wolf could just throw an echo in, but if the reads were all consistent against a wolf, then the other wolf would have to bus to echo.

It's a lazy play to explain a wolf read solely by repeating someone else's reasoning. That's the thing. Agreeing + adding original and any additional thoughts as to why someone is wolfy is how a good village bloc can be formed. Just repeating someone's reasoning gives an appearance of being productive when they really aren't.

 

[Zenge142]

Page 14 thoughts:
I don't think April and Zenge are in a pack together.

Spoiler

 

[SportPonies]

a whole day cycle in and I just learned that Bioshock is a horror game

 

[holdthemayo]

Holy **** I was 3 pages from caught up and 6 more materialized

I've yet to be caught up this game.

 

[Aprilthearab]

Spoiler

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I almost laugh reacted Sport's post but I figured I'd let her have her fun

 

[Viscernable]

I was kind of hoping you'd get caught up on the thread if you were here for 3+ hours, but hopefully you're not as busy tomorrow.

Well I'm sorry that my reading speed displeases you, then.

 

[Trilt]

a whole day cycle in and I just learned that Bioshock is a horror game

(it's... not really, lol).

 

[WildZoo]

(it's... not really, lol).

Maybe by her definition of horror

 

[Aprilthearab]

I've yet to be caught up this game.

I've been stuck at home quarantining and I've still fallen pages behind multiple times.

 

[Trilt]

Maybe by her definition of horror

Well we know her definition of a taco...

 

[Lawpy]

Yes. I'm serious.

And you didn't call her gameplay lazy?

Ok man. Now i know you're intentionally misreading me to cast shade on me.

Here's the context:

or...... perhaps AM is behaving a certain way in front of an audience of 25 and many people can observe the same thing? It's weird that you, her 1 golden boy village block, keep recycling your "AM wolf read reasons are recycled" comment. Again. Wolf points to Lawpy.

What? If people have reasons to wolfread AM, they can do so without repeating others' thoughts.

okay if 25 people watch a chicken cross the road, its not weird that 4 of them report that the chicken crossed the road. I don't know what is so confusing to you about that.

It's not confusing. It's lazy play and i'm criticizing it because it's easy to sheep along established reasoning to avoid posting original thoughts. I'm not sure why you're taking issue with me railing against lazy play? For the record, i don't think aprils is wolf even though she raised concerns about wolf!AM. There's a difference

This LITERALLY SAYS what i meant by lazy play.

so then the other people who observe the exact same thing should just invent something? Not sure how its lazy play to accurately put forth your thoughts and observations and have concordance with other villagers. Just like someone mentioned building a village block via reads consensus. I get that a wolf could just throw an echo in, but if the reads were all consistent against a wolf, then the other wolf would have to bus to echo.

It's a lazy play to explain a wolf read solely by repeating someone else's reasoning. That's the thing. Agreeing + adding original and any additional thoughts as to why someone is wolfy is how a good village bloc can be formed. Just repeating someone's reasoning gives an appearance of being productive when they really aren't.

This entire post gives full explanation with zero implication anywhere that sunshiny's play is lazy. This is a deliberate misreading used to shade me and i think it's a very wolfy behavior

 

[jaboo]

a whole day cycle in and I just learned that Bioshock is a horror game

(it's... not really, lol).

There’s only one part that’s truly scary to play. If you’ve played, you know what I mean.

 

[Aprilthearab]

I don't like that my top village reads are fighting

 

[SportPonies]

There’s only one part that’s truly scary to play. If you’ve played, you know what I mean.

THAT IS ENOUGH TO BE A NO FROM ME

 

[Trilt]

Vis and Sporty are moving toward village since hoping on

What has Sporty posted that makes you lean her village?

 

[SportPonies]

I almost laugh reacted Sport's post but I figured I'd let her have her fun

....what did I miss

 

[Aprilthearab]

....what did I miss

I was just laughing at how you only now took note that you thought Zenge and I weren't in a pack together and I think it seemed pretty obvious a long time ago lol

But I recognize you're catching up so it's no big deal

 

[SportPonies]

I was just laughing at how you only now took note that you thought Zenge and I weren't in a pack together and I think it seemed pretty obvious a long time ago lol

But I recognize you're catching up so it's no big deal

well, I only made that comment because I've had both of you falling in and out of my suspicion pile so it was mostly a note to self when I inevitably try to yeet both of you through the course of the game lol

 

[holdthemayo]

Ok man. Now i know you're intentionally misreading me to cast shade on me.

Here's the context:


This LITERALLY SAYS what i meant by lazy play.


This entire post gives full explanation with zero implication anywhere that sunshiny's play is lazy. This is a deliberate misreading used to shade me and i think it's a very wolfy behavior

You were one of four. I think all four of you were insulting her rather than discussing whether or not her gameplay was wolfy.

I believe that you didn't mean it to come across that way. But I think you did. I don't want to speak for sunshine, but if it was me (and it has been), all four of you would have crossed the line between personal and gameplay.

It's a game. It should be fun. I would rather lose than chase other players away.

 

[WildZoo]

Day 1

It was crowded in and around Athena's Glory. It was hard to even hear the lovely Rapture ambiance above the din of voices. No wonder they'd attracted Fontaine's attention. Small fights broke out here and there as the group of strangers tried to feel each other out and get organized. The ebb and flow of arguments carried them late into the night, and soon a few among them got into the Chechnya Vodka. There were bottles of it lying around all over the place. Not the best idea, when tensions were already high. One thing led to another, and suddenly a single, sullen figure had the attention of the crowd. He waved his drink around in one hand, pointing an accusatory finger with the other.

"One of you....or maybe a few...you took my daughter from me. I know you did. And I AM GOING TO GET HER BACK."

He stumbled, bumped into the wrong disgruntled splicer. That one had such a short fuse he shoved the drunk man directly in the path of a lumbering Big Daddy. Unfortunately, he got a little too close to the big guy's Little Sister.

Dead is @alissa14, who was Ryley Federer, a vanilla villager.


25 players remain

Neptune's Bounty
1. @Animal Midwife
2. @Zenge142
3. @Aprilthearab
4. @Dinashadow
5. @pawprintsandponytails

Arcadia
6. @Trilt
7. @holdthemayo
8. @Crayola227
9. @vetschoolsletmeinplease

Fort Frolic
11. @supershorty
12. @Lawpy
13. @Barkley13
14. @SportPonies

Hephaestus
15. @genny
16. @mkg323
17. @Cyndia
18. @sunshinefl

Olympus Heights
19. @Ms Procrastinator
20. @Viscernable
21. @alleycat03
22. LaineyLou ---> @jaboo

Point Prometheus
23. @katashark
24. @Chaostrodon
25. @LetItSnow
26. @Lupin21

Dead
alissa - vanillager

Subs:
1. @samac

Tots:
1. @Doggo Labs
2. @kraskadva
3. @ArteryStudyPainting



IT IS NOW NIGHT 1. NIGHT CLOSES AT 10AM EST. ​

 

[Animal Midwife]

You were one of four. I think all four of you were insulting her rather than discussing whether or not her gameplay was wolfy.

I believe that you didn't mean it to come across that way. But I think you did. I don't want to speak for sunshine, but if it was me (and it has been), all four of you would have crossed the line between personal and gameplay.

It's a game. It should be fun. I would rather lose than chase other players away.

Remember discussion is a two-way street. Only raise the spice level to what you're comfortable being thrown back at you.

 

[jaboo]

THAT IS ENOUGH TO BE A NO FROM ME

It has some of the best environmental storytelling of any video game ever, though. The best phrase I can think of it that it’s “hauntingly beautiful.”

Also apparently I’m wrong about there only being 1 scary part. I just vividly remember one part with one character (who I will not name in case it comes in handy) that scared the crap outta me.

 

[holdthemayo]

Remember discussion is a two-way street. Only raise the spice level to what you're comfortable being thrown back at you.

I didn't see a lot of discussion.

 

[supershorty]

You were one of four. I think all four of you were insulting her

This seems like a little bit of a stretch when Z explained and apologized to her.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I didn't see a lot of discussion.

Then open your eyes for once.

 

[Lawpy]

You were one of four. I think all four of you were insulting her rather than discussing whether or not her gameplay was wolfy.

I believe that you didn't mean it to come across that way. But I think you did. I don't want to speak for sunshine, but if it was me (and it has been), all four of you would have crossed the line between personal and gameplay.

It's a game. It should be fun. I would rather lose than chase other players away.

I'm not insulting her! I was defending against her criticisms. Come on man

 

[Lawpy]

contingency yeet mayos

 

[jaboo]

Didn’t want to mention this until after write-up, but Zenge was lurking at close. Saw them like something and now I can’t find the post they liked.

 

[holdthemayo]

Then open your eyes for once.

You are a lost cause.

Lawpy isn't.

 

[Trilt]

It has some of the best environmental storytelling of any video game ever, though. The best phrase I can think of it that it’s “hauntingly beautiful.”

Also apparently I’m wrong about there only being 1 scary part. I just vividly remember one part with one character (who I will not name in case it comes in handy) that scared the crap outta me.

****ing spider splicers, though...

 

[Aprilthearab]

Didn’t want to mention this until after write-up, but Zenge was lurking at close. Saw them like something and now I can’t find the post they liked.

Zenge is giving me bad vibes this game.

 

[Zenge142]

Didn’t want to mention this until after write-up, but Zenge was lurking at close. Saw them like something and now I can’t find the post they liked.

Ummmm I think most of the roster was here...?

 

[sunshinefl]

I'm not a fan of jaboo coming in late and hopping on VILLAGE Alissa putting the nail in the coffin when there was some discussion of all the people in the 4 way tie for 2nd. Jaboo kinda put it out of reach.

 

[Zenge142]

Zenge is giving me bad vibes this game.

You’re seriously jumping on a bandwagon of attacking me for being online at yeet close?

I’d like you to expand on this and please, be as specific as possible.

 

[Lawpy]

or...... perhaps AM is behaving a certain way in front of an audience of 25 and many people can observe the same thing? It's weird that you, her 1 golden boy village block, keep recycling your "AM wolf read reasons are recycled" comment. Again. Wolf points to Lawpy.

Now this.. THIS is an PEJORATIVE INSULT TO ME.

 

[kaydubs]

****ing spider splicers, though...

Ahhhhhhhh

 

[Animal Midwife]

I'm not a fan of jaboo coming in late and hopping on VILLAGE Alissa putting the nail in the coffin when there was some discussion of all the people in the 4 way tie for 2nd. Jaboo kinda put it out of reach.

jboo literally subbed in late. What are you talking about?

 

[sunshinefl]

Now this.. THIS is an PEJORATIVE INSULT TO ME.

bro I said that 10 hours ago. Are you just trying to manufacture outrage at this point? And that had nothing to do with you specifically and more to do with AM anointing someone as village block early and without any reason. It was making fun of AM putting you in village block, not making fun of you.

 

[Aprilthearab]

You’re seriously jumping on a bandwagon of attacking me for being online at yeet close?

I’d like you to expand on this and please, be as specific as possible.

I'm not attacking you for being online at yeet close. I thought the observation of lurking was interesting and my comment wasn't made to support or refute it, just wanted to make a statement about my read of you up til now.

Nothing to expand upon, really, just sharing reads.

 

[Lawpy]

bro I said that 10 hours ago. Are you just trying to manufacture outrage at this point? And that had nothing to do with you specifically and more to do with AM anointing someone as village block early and without any reason. It was making fun of AM putting you in village block, not making fun of you.

Manufacture outrage. Here i am getting misread and insulted by you and mayos, and you think it's manufactured.

 

[holdthemayo]

I'm not insulting her! I was defending against her criticisms. Come on man

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Zeng already apologized and explained his comment, which seemed sincere.
I don't know Trout

I think you and I understand each other better outside of the stress of an active game.

Can we pick this up after the game in PM?

I understand where Sunny is coming from because I've been there. I want to understand where you are coming from too, but I'm worried that we won't get there arguing in the game thread.
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[Lawpy]

Zeng already apologized and explained his comment, which seemed sincere.
I don't know Trout

I think you and I understand each other better outside of the stress of an active game.

Can we pick this up after the game in PM?

I understand where Sunny is coming from because I've been there. I want to understand where you are coming from too, but I'm worried that we won't get there arguing in the game thread.

I'm not apologizing for being misread and being falsely accused of insulting someone when i didn't. I think it's a wolfy orchestrated plot to slander me and so i think it's strategy.

 

[Zenge142]

I'm not attacking you for being online at yeet close. I thought the observation of lurking was interesting and my comment wasn't made to support or refute it, just wanted to make a statement about my read of you up til now.

Nothing to expand upon, really, just sharing reads.

You literally just did.
This was a post attacking me for literally just being online at yeet close

Didn’t want to mention this until after write-up, but Zenge was lurking at close. Saw them like something and now I can’t find the post they liked.

And you jumped on the bandwagon immediately after to stoke the flames.

Zenge is giving me bad vibes this game.

And now you’re being intentionally obtuse about doing it.

 

[holdthemayo]

I'm not apologizing for being misread and being falsely accused of insulting someone when i didn't. I think it's a wolfy orchestrated plot to slander me and so i think it's strategy.

Lawpy, I was being sincere. Not everything is gameplay. There are people on the other end of the keyboard.

 

[sunshinefl]

jboo literally subbed in late. What are you talking about?

THIS AM, THIS IS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT:

MOD ANNOUNCEMENT: @LaineyLou IS BEING REPLACED BY @jaboo ​

subbed in at 8:58

hmmm, so will alissa preserve? and onto whom? pleasy kata or genny. I don't think kata or genny are wolves. I don't know about Alissa. Pleasy has been making me squint.

discussion in last ~10mins ( have to go back and check exact time but lost all my quotes last time i did that and just had to pull them again)

Oh wow. Zen is up there too. This is going to be a gold mine for analysis, AM

i don't think she can it would just make a tie

nevermind we posted simultaneously

but there are obviously lots of votes present right now.

genny is kinda sus but so are all 3 of her voters

hmmm should we flip genny? 🤔

oh wow. That went up higher though. Last minute vote analysis upcoming. weeeee

Yeet alissa

should fix your concern, Lupin

Vote at 9:57

 

[Lawpy]

Lawpy, I was being sincere. Not everything is gameplay. There are people on the other end of the keyboard.

And i understand that but unfortunately the source of disagreement is strategy dependent. But sure, i'm open to resolving hurt feelings after the game is over but i'm wary it'll go sour for reasons that are gameplay dependent.

 

[Animal Midwife]

THIS AM, THIS IS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT:


subbed in at 8:58

discussion in last ~10mins ( have to go back and check exact time but lost all my quotes last time i did that and just had to pull them again)








Vote at 9:57

Yes, she had one hour to get a feel for the thread and vote. Why are you not also pressuring Vis, mayo, and mkg for similar late votes despite being in the thread way longer?

 

[jaboo]

subbed in at 8:58

Vote at 9:57

Tbh, I was trying to glean something useful in the mere hour I had to analyze chat. Y’all had 36 hours to do that.