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[Lawpy]

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(1) I would expect Cyndia to probs not put an actual wolf on her wolf list. I don't recall her being a hard-busser like some jerk named LIS.

(2) I would expect her to "look closely" at another wolf, though, which makes me worry about Chaos. Less so Cray.

Might be time to vote Chaos to settle the question.

I'm thinking about chaos

 

[supershorty]

Updating my reads from earlier tonight with some thoughts/what I'm planning to look into. It's too late for me to start cranking out ISOs now, but I'll do them tomorrow. Neutrals are definitely getting a harder look.

Spoiler: Wolf leans:

pawprints: seems like village noob and I was willing to give her the benefit of the doubt, but we've had the conversation about why she's not village reading Dina twice and while she changed her from a wolf read to a village lean, it seems weird to me that she had me higher on her villageyness than Dina and then when asked about it, just said to see her previous post. It feels a little like buddying up to me and it makes me feel uncomfortable. I'm inclined to think paws is probably village noob based on her reads seeming like she just wasn't following the thread, but the possible buddying still felt weird to me so I'd really like to see more content from her tomorrow.

Cyndia: my possible wolf lean on Cyndia is mostly based on feels but I'd like to give the silenced people a chance to defend themselves, as mentioned earlier, since we don't have good mechanical evidence for yeeting one of them like we did on D4. Kicking myself for the underlined now.

katashark/samac: I said this before, low posting/content from katashark. Some of samac's earlier reads were a little strange to me, and I felt like she was pushing the "kata was not here" thing almost a little too hard. However, one of the ones I'm also unsure about is LIS, and based on his interactions with kata/mac, I think that's unlikely to be W/W. I don't think it's impossible that Cyndia would have thrown 1 real wolf in her wolf reads on the thought that people would want to clear her wolf "reads" if Dina shared them with the thread, but I've never played with Cyndia. I want to see what samac does D6.

Spoiler: Village leans:

Cray: nothing has changed my reads on her

Lawpy: seems like village!Lawpy and has seemed really village in our PMs

MsP: more participation has helped to see what she's thinking, seems village

chaos: was wolf-leaning him before but he's been showing some original thoughts with his wolf hunting that makes me lean more village on him. I want to look at chaos more tomorrow when I'm looking at LIS.

Lupin: VCA in particular looks quite good

Barks: haven't seen anything anti-village from Barks since the rez

pleasy: leaning village based on Zenge and alley interactions (and after I reevaluated post-iso)

jaboo: I know she's been busy the last couple days (NAI) but seemed village otherwise

AM: pushed Cyndia hard, was the first one on the wagon, think I need to accept that my earlier thoughts were probably off-base.

Village:
Dina

Spoiler: Neutral/undecided:

AM: had a wolf lean on her before, but I feel like she's been more pro-village in the last 2 Day cycles and it's making me second guess myself. Alley throwing a vote on her with an explanation made me feel less sure about this too because AM hates bussing.

LIS: leaning village based on interactions with Zenge, less sure about interactions with chaos. Looking at VCA makes me want to lean him village, but he admits that he's a hard busser when he wolfs. I want to look more at him tomorrow.

mayo: I'm almost as bad at reading mayo as I am at reading alley (who I've read wrong in every game I've played with her). Not sure if the quotes from the game mean something about his wincon. Don't think he and AM could be W/W but feeling undecided about them right now. A lot of my mayo read depends on Cyndia's flip. With Cyndia flipping wolf, I'm less sure about mayo because I feel like he was pushing her, but he also was late on her vote today, which could be setting up for a bus. Adding mayo to the list of people to look at tomorrow.

Trilt: VCA is pretty bad, posts seem pretty village, vets seem wary of giving her a solid read, and I've never played with her. I've had games where I was village and my VCA was abysmal, so I'm not willing to condemn someone just based on that when their posts seem pro-village. Still not sure how I feel about Trilt because I really want to village lean her based on posts. Was 3rd on the Cyndia wagon today. Think I'll take a closer look tomorrow.

 

[Lawpy]

I still want to

contingency yeet samacs

 

[LetItSnow]

But cyndias still bussed alleys. So her putting a wolf in her wolfreads would make sense

Eh. I get what you're saying. I really do. I just think it's different when you're talking reads with someone than voting. Voting is saying "I actually think this person is a wolf" (yeah, I know, more complex than that, like maybe wanting to flip someone for investigative purposes). Talking reads where it's more "lean this, lean that" .... I'd expect Cyndia not to throw a wolf in her hard "wolf" reads, but to drop them down a notch into the "wolf lean".

I might be overthinking it. I'm open to that criticism. But the voting for alley doesn't necessarily change my thinking much.

It is interesting, though. I'm wondering if the general consensus was that alley was a goner, and might as well make something of it.

 

[Lawpy]

Updating my reads from earlier tonight with some thoughts/what I'm planning to look into. It's too late for me to start cranking out ISOs now, but I'll do them tomorrow. Neutrals are definitely getting a harder look.

Spoiler: Wolf leans:

pawprints: seems like village noob and I was willing to give her the benefit of the doubt, but we've had the conversation about why she's not village reading Dina twice and while she changed her from a wolf read to a village lean, it seems weird to me that she had me higher on her villageyness than Dina and then when asked about it, just said to see her previous post. It feels a little like buddying up to me and it makes me feel uncomfortable. I'm inclined to think paws is probably village noob based on her reads seeming like she just wasn't following the thread, but the possible buddying still felt weird to me so I'd really like to see more content from her tomorrow.

Cyndia: my possible wolf lean on Cyndia is mostly based on feels but I'd like to give the silenced people a chance to defend themselves, as mentioned earlier, since we don't have good mechanical evidence for yeeting one of them like we did on D4. Kicking myself for the underlined now.

katashark/samac: I said this before, low posting/content from katashark. Some of samac's earlier reads were a little strange to me, and I felt like she was pushing the "kata was not here" thing almost a little too hard. However, one of the ones I'm also unsure about is LIS, and based on his interactions with kata/mac, I think that's unlikely to be W/W. I don't think it's impossible that Cyndia would have thrown 1 real wolf in her wolf reads on the thought that people would want to clear her wolf "reads" if Dina shared them with the thread, but I've never played with Cyndia. I want to see what samac does D6.

Spoiler: Village leans:

Cray: nothing has changed my reads on her

Lawpy: seems like village!Lawpy and has seemed really village in our PMs

MsP: more participation has helped to see what she's thinking, seems village

chaos: was wolf-leaning him before but he's been showing some original thoughts with his wolf hunting that makes me lean more village on him. I want to look at chaos more tomorrow when I'm looking at LIS.

Lupin: VCA in particular looks quite good

Barks: haven't seen anything anti-village from Barks since the rez

pleasy: leaning village based on Zenge and alley interactions (and after I reevaluated post-iso)

jaboo: I know she's been busy the last couple days (NAI) but seemed village otherwise

AM: pushed Cyndia hard, was the first one on the wagon, think I need to accept that my earlier thoughts were probably off-base.

Village:
Dina

Spoiler: Neutral/undecided:

AM: had a wolf lean on her before, but I feel like she's been more pro-village in the last 2 Day cycles and it's making me second guess myself. Alley throwing a vote on her with an explanation made me feel less sure about this too because AM hates bussing.

LIS: leaning village based on interactions with Zenge, less sure about interactions with chaos. Looking at VCA makes me want to lean him village, but he admits that he's a hard busser when he wolfs. I want to look more at him tomorrow.

mayo: I'm almost as bad at reading mayo as I am at reading alley (who I've read wrong in every game I've played with her). Not sure if the quotes from the game mean something about his wincon. Don't think he and AM could be W/W but feeling undecided about them right now. A lot of my mayo read depends on Cyndia's flip. With Cyndia flipping wolf, I'm less sure about mayo because I feel like he was pushing her, but he also was late on her vote today, which could be setting up for a bus. Adding mayo to the list of people to look at tomorrow.

Trilt: VCA is pretty bad, posts seem pretty village, vets seem wary of giving her a solid read, and I've never played with her. I've had games where I was village and my VCA was abysmal, so I'm not willing to condemn someone just based on that when their posts seem pro-village. Still not sure how I feel about Trilt because I really want to village lean her based on posts. Was 3rd on the Cyndia wagon today. Think I'll take a closer look tomorrow.

LIS is looking village to me. If he's bussing currently, he effectively scares me far more than Staggs, mizzy, vissy, DocE and SOV

 

[supershorty]

LIS is looking village to me. If he's bussing currently, he effectively scares me far more than Staggs, mizzy, vissy, DocE and SOV

I don't disagree, but I want to take another look at all of my neutrals/people I'm not sure on. His VCA looks good.

 

[LetItSnow]

SOV scares you more than me?

Man. I've lost more than just one step if that's the case.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Spoiler: Day 1 Tracker

AM (1) - April
Dina (1) - shorty
genny (1) - genny
AM (2) - April, mkg
AM (3) - April, mkg, Zenge
genny () -
chaos (1) - genny
April (1) - alley
shorty (1) - please
AM (4) - April, mkg, Zenge, mayo
AM (3) - April, mkg, mayo
MsP (1) - Zenge
MsP (2) - Zenge, Barks
chaos (2) - genny, AM
Trilt (1) - Lawpy
AM (4) - April, mkg, mayo, alissa
AM (3) - April, mkg, mayo
LIS (1) - alissa
Trilt () -
Vis (1) - Lawpy
please (1) - Cray
Lupin (1) - chaos
MsP (1) - Barks
Dina () -
shorty () -
chaos (1) - genny
genny (1) - AM
MsP () -
please (2) - Cray, Barks
mkg (1) - Cyndia
Vis () -
mkg (2) - Cyndia, Lawpy
please (3) - Cray, Barks, Dina
AM (2) - April, mayo
AM (1) - April
jboo (1) - mayo
mkg (1) - Cyndia
Vis (1) - Lawpy
Vis (2) - Lawpy, shorty
mayo (1) - Lupin
LIS () -
Zenge (1) - LIS
April (2) - alley, kata
Zenge () -
kata (1) - LIS
Barks (1) - please
AM () -
Zenge (1) - April
please (2) - Cray, Barks
alley (1) - Dina
kata (2) - LIS, Trilt
chaos () -
Zenge (2) April, genny
genny (2) - AM, Zenge
Barks () -
Vis (3) - Lawpy, shorty, please
Trilt (1) - sunshine
jboo () -
Cyndia (1) - mayo
Vis (2) - Lawpy, shorty
alissa (1) - please
kata (3) - LIS, Trilt, alissa
alissa (2) - please, alley
MsP (1) - pawprints
mkg () -
April (1) - Cyndia
please (3) - Cray, Barks, MsP
Cyndia () -
alissa (3) - please, alley, mayo
alissa (4) - please, alley, mayo, Vis
Zenge (3) - April, genny, Sporty
alissa (5) - please, alley, mayo, Vis, mkg
Vis (1) - Lawpy
genny (3) - AM, Zenge, shorty
alissa (6) - please, alley, mayo, Vis, mkg, jboo
kata (2) - LIS, alissa
please (4) - Cray, Barks, MsP, Trilt

26/26

Spoiler: Day 2 Tracker

mayo (1) - Lawpy
Zenge (1) - jboo
mayo () -
kata (1) - Lawpy
genny (1) - AM
please (1) - Lupin
please (2) - Lupin, Cray
genny (2) - AM, please
kata (2) - Lawpy, LIS
please (3) - Lupin, Cray, shorty
Zenge (2) - jboo, Dina
Sporty (1) - Trilt
genny (3) - AM, please, Zenge
genny (2) - AM, Zenge
Zenge (3) - jboo, Dina, please
Sporty (2) - Trilt, Cyndia
kata (1) - Lawpy
Sporty (3) - Trilt, Cyndia, LIS
Zenge (4) - jboo, Dina, please, chaos
Zenge (3) - jboo, Dina, please
mkg (1) - chaos
genny (1) - AM
please (4) - Lupin, Cray, shorty, mkg
please (3) - Lupin, Cray, mkg
MsP (1) - alley
chaos (1) - Zenge
Cyndia (1) - mayo
Sporty (2) - Cyndia, LIS
Vis (1) - Trilt
kata () -
genny (2) - AM, Lawpy
Sporty (1) - LIS
genny (3) - AM, Lawpy, Cyndia
AM (1) - shorty
Sporty () -
kata (1) - LIS
kata (2) - LIS, pawprints
kata (1) - pawprints
Sporty (1) - LIS
MsP () -
please (4) - Lupin, Cray, mkg, alley
please (5) - Lupin, Cray, mkg, alley, MsP
Vis (2) - Trilt, genny
Vis (3) - Trilt, genny, kata
genny (2) - Lawpy, Cyndia
Vis (4) - Trilt, genny, kata, AM
AM () -
Zenge (4) - jboo, Dina, please, shorty
LIS (1) - Sporty
Cyndia () -
Zenge (5) - jboo, Dina, please, shorty, mayo
LIS () -
Vis (5) - Trilt, genny, kata, AM, Sporty
Sporty () -
Vis (6) - Trilt, genny, kata, AM, Sporty, LIS
please (6) - Lupin, Cray, mkg, alley, MsP, Vis
Vis (5) - Trilt, genny, kata, AM, Sporty
Zenge (6) - jboo, Dina, please, shorty, mayo, LIS
Vis (4) - Trilt, kata, AM, Sporty
Zenge (7) - jboo, Dina, please, shorty, mayo, LIS, genny
genny (1) - Cyndia
Zenge (8) - jboo, Dina, please, shorty, mayo, LIS, genny, Lawpy
Vis (3) - Trilt, kata, AM
Zenge (9) - jboo, Dina, please, shorty, mayo, LIS, genny, Lawpy, Sporty
please (5) - Lupin, Cray, mkg, alley, MsP
Zenge (10) - jboo, Dina, please, shorty, mayo, LIS, genny, Lawpy, Sporty, Vis
please (4) - Cray, mkg, alley, MsP
Zenge (11) - jboo, Dina, please, shorty, mayo, LIS, genny, Lawpy, Sporty, Vis, Lupin
chaos () -
please (5) - Cray, mkg, alley, MsP, Zenge
Vis (2) - Trilt, kata
Zenge (12) - jboo, Dina, please, shorty, mayo, LIS, genny, Lawpy, Sporty, Vis, Lupin, AM
please (4) - Cray, mkg, MsP, Zenge
Zenge (13) - jboo, Dina, please, shorty, mayo, LIS, genny, Lawpy, Sporty, Vis, Lupin, AM, alley
please (3) - Cray, MsP, Zenge
Zenge (14) - jboo, Dina, please, shorty, mayo, LIS, genny, Lawpy, Sporty, Vis, Lupin, AM, alley, mkg

23/23

Spoiler: Day 3 Tracker

kata (1) - LIS
Vis (1) - Lawpy
Vis (2) - Lawpy, Cray
Cyndia (1) - AM
alley (1) - Lupin
mkg (1) - Dina
Vis (1) - Cray
chaos (1) - Lawpy
mayo (1) - Cyndia
chaos () -
Vis (2) - Cray, Lawpy
mkg () -
Vis (3) - Cray, Lawpy, Dina
Vis (2) - Cray, Dina
alley (2) - Lupin, Lawpy
mayo () -
alley (3) - Lupin, Lawpy, Barks
Cyndia (2) - AM, Sporty
LIS (1) - chaos
Vis (3) - Cray, Dina, genny
pawprints (1) - Cyndia
Vis (4) - Cray, Dina, genny, Trilt
Vis (5) - Cray, Dina, genny, Trilt, shorty
Vis (4) - Cray, Dina, genny, Trilt
AM (1) - shorty
AM (2) - shorty, mayo
kata () -
alley (4) - Lupin, Lawpy, Barks, LIS
AM (3) - shorty, mayo, Vis
kata (1) - pawprints
Cyndia (1) - Sporty
Vis (5) - Cray, Dina, genny, Trilt, AM
Vis (6) - Cray, Dina, genny, Trilt, AM, MsP
Vis (7) - Cray, Dina, genny, Trilt, AM, MsP, kata
kata () -
Vis (8) - Cray, Dina, genny, Trilt, AM, MsP, kata, pawprints
alley (3) - Lupin, Barks, LIS
AM (4) - shorty, mayo, Vis, Lawpy
please (1) - jboo
AM (5) - shorty, mayo, Vis, Lawpy, please
AM (6) - shorty, mayo, Vis, Lawpy, please, alley
alley (2) - Lupin, LIS
please () -
Vis (9) - Cray, Dina, genny, Trilt, AM, MsP, kata, pawprints, jboo
AM (5) - shorty, mayo, Vis, please, alley
alley (3) - Lupin, LIS, Lawpy
alley (4) - Lupin, LIS, Lawpy, mkg

22/22

Spoiler: Day 4 Tracker

kata (1) - Lawpy
Cyndia (1) - AM
alley (1) - Lupin
AM (1) - shorty
pawprints (1) - please
please (1) - Barks
kata (2) - Lawpy, LIS
AM (2) - shorty, mayo
kata (3) - Lawpy, LIS, Dina
AM (3) - shorty, mayo, chaos
AM (2) - shorty, mayo
kata (4) - Lawpy, LIS, Dina, Trilt
AM (1) - mayo
Cray (1) - shorty
kata (5) - Lawpy, LIS, Dina, Trilt, pawprints
kata (4) - Lawpy, LIS, Trilt, pawprints
Cray (2) - shorty, Dina
alley (2) - Lupin, genny
alley (3) - Lupin, genny, MsP
please () -
Cray (3) - shorty, Dina, Barks
pawprints () -
alley (4) - Lupin, genny, MsP, please
alley (5) - Lupin, genny, MsP, please, Cyndia
Cyndia () -
Cray (4) - shorty, Dina, Barks, AM
AM () -
Cray (5) - shorty, Dina, Barks, AM, mayo
kata (5) - Lawpy, LIS, Trilt, pawprints, jboo
Cray (4) - Dina, Barks, AM, mayo
kata (6) - Lawpy, LIS, Trilt, pawprints, jboo, shorty
alley (6) - Lupin, genny, MsP, please, Cyndia, chaos
alley (7) - Lupin, genny, MsP, please, Cyndia, chaos, Cray
alley (6) - Lupin, genny, MsP, please, Cyndia, Cray
Cray (5) - Dina, Barks, AM, mayo, chaos
Cray (6) - Dina, Barks, AM, mayo, chaos, alley

18/19
Missing: kata

Spoiler: Day 5 Tracker

Cyndia (1) - AM
chaos (1) - samac
mayo (1) - Cray
samac (1) - shorty
Cyndia (2) - AM, Dina
Cyndia (3) - AM, Dina, LIS
pawprints (1) - jboo
Cyndia (4) - AM, Dina, LIS, Trilt
pawprints (2) - jboo, please
samac (2) - shorty, Barks
Cyndia (5) - AM, Dina, LIS, Trilt, Lupin
Cyndia (6) - AM, Dina, LIS, Trilt, Lupin, pawprints
Cyndia (7) - AM, Dina, LIS, Trilt, Lupin, pawprints, mayo
chaos () -
LIS (1) - samac
pawprints (3) - jboo, please, Cyndia
Cyndia (6) - AM, LIS, Trilt, Lupin, pawprints, mayo
samac (3) - shorty, Barks, Dina
pawprints (4) - jboo, please, Cyndia, MsP
mayo () -
pawprints (5) - jboo, please, Cyndia, MsP, Cray
LIS () -
Cyndia (7) - AM, LIS, Trilt, Lupin, pawprints, mayo, samac
Cyndia (8) - AM, LIS, Trilt, Lupin, pawprints, mayo, samac, chaos
samac (4) - shorty, Barks, Dina, Lawpy

17/17

 

[Animal Midwife]

@Animal Midwife how are you reading Trouts?

She's still in my POE.

 

[Crayola227]

LIS is looking village to me. If he's bussing currently, he effectively scares me far more than Staggs, mizzy, vissy, DocE and SOV

That's some pretty high praise!

 

[Lawpy]

Eh. I get what you're saying. I really do. I just think it's different when you're talking reads with someone than voting. Voting is saying "I actually think this person is a wolf" (yeah, I know, more complex than that, like maybe wanting to flip someone for investigative purposes). Talking reads where it's more "lean this, lean that" .... I'd expect Cyndia not to throw a wolf in her hard "wolf" reads, but to drop them down a notch into the "wolf lean".

I might be overthinking it. I'm open to that criticism. But the voting for alley doesn't necessarily change my thinking much.

It is interesting, though. I'm wondering if the general consensus was that alley was a goner, and might as well make something of it.

Ok i got it and can somewhat agree since voting can be more situational. I was grouping hard wolf and wolf lean into same category but i see the difference in motives.

Still not sure. I personally haven't paid much attention into read lists from wolves because i thought they're filled with lies but i see how they may have some value

 

[Animal Midwife]

POE is Trilt, samac, please at this point.

 

[Lawpy]

POE is Trilt, samac, please at this point.

Why pleasy? And what about mayos and pawprints?

 

[Lawpy]

SOV scares you more than me?

Man. I've lost more than just one step if that's the case.

Tbh i don't recall seeing you wolf but the others i listed are pretty aggressive bussers. So well, if you're a wolf, i'll be completely floored because that takes bussing to like ultra deepwolfing levels

 

[Animal Midwife]

Why pleasy? And what about mayos and pawprints?

mayo wasn't w/w with Cyndia. pawprints looks like a village noob. please's reads are falling to the wayside except for the days when Zenge and alley were outted for some reason + she's still alive.

 

[Lawpy]

mayo wasn't w/w with Cyndia. pawprints looks like a village noob. please's reads are falling to the wayside except for the days when Zenge and alley were outted for some reason + she's still alive.

Geez. That feels like crazy bussing from pleasy

 

[Animal Midwife]

Geez. That feels like crazy bussing from pleasy

You don't know how it feels until you've been stuck between multiple wolves getting mechanically outted in a short timeframe.

 

[Trilt]

gifted me with an engineering tonic to make hacking a breeze - cameras, turrets, vending machines, bathyspheres, they all bow to my will

I am suspicious this was potentially a jack of all trades role.

The bathyspheres listed explicitly caught my eye, as those are a transportation system in Rapture. If she was a JOAT and could pick from multiple abilities hacking different mechanical systems, that makes her decision to move make so much more sense vs. an item.

Mover is a good ability to use as a cover. She did it kind of clunkily, but I even moved her from light wolf -> neutral on my spreadsheet that initial day based on it. If she was able to pick and choose abilities she could move PRN while either holding off or using other abilities in the off days and nobody would think twice about her not migrating around every single day once it was proven.

 

[Trilt]

POE is Trilt, samac, please at this point.

I'm just curious. Am I a bussing wolf, or not?

Because as samac has delightfully pointed out multiple times today, my votes have been utter trash so far this game during previous lynches. But now I was suddenly right! On the first wolf that wasn't actually seered, or caught in a corner by mechanics, that maybe might have had a chance to weasel from things, especially if arguments weren't pulled up against her. So am I just now a busser, or..?

 

[Animal Midwife]

I'm just curious. Am I a bussing wolf, or not?

Because as samac has delightfully pointed out multiple times today, my votes have been utter trash so far this game during previous lynches. But now I was suddenly right! On the first wolf that wasn't actually seered, or caught in a corner by mechanics, that maybe might have had a chance to weasel from things, especially if arguments weren't pulled up against her. So am I just now a busser, or..?

Good question. Are there any situations (in any game) where you would avoid bussing even if staying off has a higher risk of negatively affecting your win chances?

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

mayo wasn't w/w with Cyndia. pawprints looks like a village noob. please's reads are falling to the wayside except for the days when Zenge and alley were outted for some reason + she's still alive.

and every time someone brings me up as a wolf read, it basically ensures they won't kill me bc im a great misyeet for them

 

[Animal Midwife]

and every time someone brings me up as a wolf read, it basically ensures they won't kill me bc im a great misyeet for them

Well, keep wolfhunting so I can see you're village.

 

[Trilt]

Good question. Are there any situations (in any game) where you would avoid bussing even if staying off has a higher risk of negatively affecting your win chances?

I will literally never say never about my gameplay because it's always going to be situational.

I'm honestly just grumpy that my enjoyment of finally getting one right was somewhat undermined by multiple people with sus in the following page, lol.

And would kindly request everyone looking at me because of my admittedly crap lynch votes thus far this game decide whether that's super consistent with pushing Cyndia for this one. That's all. 🙂

 

[Lawpy]

I will literally never say never about my gameplay because it's always going to be situational.

I'm honestly just grumpy that my enjoyment of finally getting one right was somewhat undermined by multiple people with sus in the following page, lol.

And would kindly request everyone looking at me because of my admittedly crap lynch votes thus far this game decide whether that's super consistent with pushing Cyndia for this one. That's all. 🙂

I'm pretty sure Cyndias was bussed though

 

[Lawpy]

Day 3 Trouble! Trouble Everywhere! *FINAL* Vote Tally

katashark ()
Viscernable (10) - Cray, Dina, genny, Trilt, AM, MsP, katashark, pawprints, Barks, jaboo
Cyndia (1) - Sporty
alleycat (4) - Lupin, LIS, mkg, Lawpy
mkg ()
Chaostrodon ()
mayo ()
LIS (1) - Chaostrodon
pawprintsandponytails (1) - Cyndia
AM (5) - supershorty, mayo, Viscernable, vetschoolsplz, alleycat
vetschoolsplz ()

22/22

Winning: @Viscernable

Missing: —

Deadline: 10pm EST on 3/6/21

Day 5 You Were Born To Do Great Things *FINAL* Vote Tally

Cyndia (8) - AM, LIS, Trilt, Lupin, pawprints, mayo, samac, Chaostrodon
Chaostrodon ()
mayo ()
samac (4) - supershorty, Barks, Dina, Lawpy
pawprints (5) - jaboo, vetschoolsplz, Cyndia, MsP, Cray
LIS ()

17/17

winning: @Cyndia

Missing: —-

Deadline: 10pm EST on 3/10/21

Based on these tallies, pawprints is unlikely to be W/W with Cyndias

 

[Lawpy]

Current POE is:

mayos, samacs, Trouts and pawprints

Well pawprints and mayos are unlikely to be W/W with Cyndias

So current POE is: samacs and Trouts

🤔

 

[Lawpy]

Well, keep wolfhunting so I can see you're village.

How likely is the game solved currently?

 

[Lawpy]

Because with a POE of 2... if i incorrectly removed someone from POE, it's probably pleasy and chaos.

 

[Animal Midwife]

How likely is the game solved currently?

Much more than I expected tbh. Shouldn't count eggs before they hatch and all that, but three wolves + one neutral going into D6 is pretty strong especially after the recent bout of sweeps and near sweeps.

 

[Trilt]

Day 3 Trouble! Trouble Everywhere! *FINAL* Vote Tally

katashark ()
Viscernable (10) - Cray, Dina, genny, Trilt, AM, MsP, katashark, pawprints, Barks, jaboo
Cyndia (1) - Sporty
alleycat (4) - Lupin, LIS, mkg, Lawpy
mkg ()
Chaostrodon ()
mayo ()
LIS (1) - Chaostrodon
pawprintsandponytails (1) - Cyndia
AM (5) - supershorty, mayo, Viscernable, vetschoolsplz, alleycat
vetschoolsplz ()

22/22

Winning: @Viscernable

Missing: —

Deadline: 10pm EST on 3/6/21

How funny. Good lynch tally to quote, Lawps.

I had thought to myself that the Sporty kill this night was kind of odd. She was still under some suspicion after a quiet/rough start and didn't have a lot of people village reading her. Look who she voted for.

And on quick re-eval of her posts, fascinating:

I guess i have several thoughts tonight and this is maybe a to do list for myself at this point.

1. Alley: was flying under my radar, people think she’s suspicious, I’m not sure if I agree. Need to iso previous games

2. visc: do I still like the vote here after reevaluating last night’s yeet? Currently I lean yes

3. Cyndia: reasonably convinced there could be a wolf here based on some of her posts today (irl days). She’s buying theories and seems a little too... easily influenced? From someone who’s been around for ages

4. I want to look at the other veterans closer tomorrow. Veterans meaning “been playing longer than me”. I think im still reasonably convinced LIS is village but kata, lupin, and Trilt not so much

 

[Trilt]

With that said, same day and he's still kicking:

Alright, hearing nothing, I'm leaving my vote. I'm ok with alley or vis.

I'm also ok with kata, Cyndia, tentatively AM - kata because I've been there the entire game and am stubborn, Cyndia because it doesn't feel like village Cyndia, and AM because I think an AM flip might be useful data-mining for the people that have time to do it.

 

[Lawpy]

With that said, same day and he's still kicking:

Honestly i'm confused why LIS kept saying he likes to bus since that gives wolves an excuse to keep him alive and then push the bussing theory to try to get him yeeted

 

[LetItSnow]

With that said, same day and he's still kicking:

Who is still kicking?

 

[LetItSnow]

Honestly i'm confused why LIS kept saying he likes to bus since that gives wolves an excuse to keep him alive and then push the bussing theory to try to get him yeeted

People keep bringing it up. I just keep acknowledging that yup, it's true, when I wolf I'm willing to bus. It's not like I go LOOKING to bus. But I'm happy to bus. Or get bus'd.

I'm pretty open about my play style and my 'rules'. 🙂

 

[Lawpy]

People keep bringing it up. I just keep acknowledging that yup, it's true, when I wolf I'm willing to bus. It's not like I go LOOKING to bus. But I'm happy to bus. Or get bus'd.

I'm pretty open about my play style and my 'rules'. 🙂

Hmm i need to look into who kept insisting that 🤔

 

[Lawpy]

I actually missed this and remember him saying he was ok with alley or vis.
I do believe he also made a comment about not being afraid of bussing and now I'm doing a lot of WIFOM as did he say that to seem more village as a wolf or as a villager to comment on wolf strategy?

Hmm hmm

This looks like jumping into LIS statement

 

[samac]

Current POE is:

mayos, samacs, Trouts and pawprints

I realize you backed off later but why was mayo in your pack reads?
he voted Zenge, and has been on Cynd before today.
Do you really think he bussed his pack mates that hard? Or are you a wolf who just didn’t bother to update your reads before coming on?

my theory of wolf in each group is ringing true and Lawpy you look wayyyyy more sus then shorty.

 

[samac]

contingency yeet samac

you're doing a lot of "im not a wolf! yay! we got wolf! wow! go villig!!!"
and i wanna put pressure to encourage you to look at some more interactions and give some points

yesterday kata left you with a pretty bad hot seat and i wanted to give you a 1 day pass, and then tonight i can reconcile cyndia as a point of no return bus to gain village cred when sorely needed

@Kaydubz bc contingency yeets

*edited for correct paragraph spacing

I’m not afraid to bus at a point of no return. I’ll give you that. but if I was a wolf I would have fallen on my own sword and told Cyndia to come after me with all the sus that’s been on me/kata for her to get village cred because she’d be able to defend herself the next day.

Doing a lot of I’m not a wolf yay we got a wolf because I was legitimately excited that something good happened my first day on the game. I stayed up until after 11 because the excitement got to me now I’m exhausted lol

 

[Lupin21]

Fell asleep. I am surprised cyndia was a wolf. I was just going off genny’s suspicion. Lol. Thanks for that, my dead village friend whom I was shaking fist at. Haha

 

[samac]

Dina if you happen to get up please seer me so we can put an end to this.

 

[Chaostrodon]

(1) I would expect Cyndia to probs not put an actual wolf on her wolf list. I don't recall her being a hard-busser like some jerk named LIS.

(2) I would expect her to "look closely" at another wolf, though, which makes me worry about Chaos. Less so Cray.

Might be time to vote Chaos to settle the question.

Wut?

You think the fact that a flipped scum mentioned me in passing to someone else in their PMs is in any way alignment indicative? Not based on her interactions , pushes etc but simply from a readlist that looks pretty reflective of the general list around here? Most other players here had the same opinion of me

I am sorry , but I dont think this post had genuine intentions behind it , LIS is most definitely acting in bad faith here

Also , putting your teammate in your wolf list isnt "hard-bussing" by any means . Hard bussing is when you aggressively push for a lynch or atleast vote your teammate . You shouldnt be clearing people based on this alone and you should be knowing that

 

[LetItSnow]

Wut?

You think the fact that a flipped scum mentioned me in passing to someone else in their PMs is in any way alignment indicative? Not based on her interactions , pushes etc but simply from a readlist that looks pretty reflective of the general list around here? Most other players here had the same opinion of me

I am sorry , but I dont think this post had genuine intentions behind it , LIS is most definitely acting in bad faith here

Also , putting your teammate in your wolf list isnt "hard-bussing" by any means . Hard bussing is when you aggressively push for a lynch or atleast vote your teammate . You shouldnt be clearing people based on this alone and you should be knowing that

I think this is an over-reaction. I'm just pointing out one thing in a game full of things. Yes, obviously, interactions, pushes, etc matter. That doesn't mean I'm not going to respond to that one specific point in a post.

Why so over-reactive? That's probably more sketchy than the original point.

I can't tell if we're just using terminology differently, but to me "clear" means nearly absolutely clear. As in, seer'd, role/alignment known, etc. I didn't "clear" anybody.

It SERIOUSLY feels like you're trying to manufacture shade.

Good chance I vote Chaos today because this needs to be solved.

 

[LetItSnow]

Actually... since I can always change it.

contingent lynch Chaos

 

[Chaostrodon]

I think this is an over-reaction. I'm just pointing out one thing in a game full of things. Yes, obviously, interactions, pushes, etc matter. That doesn't mean I'm not going to respond to that one specific point in a post.

Why so over-reactive? That's probably more sketchy than the original point.

I can't tell if we're just using terminology differently, but to me "clear" means nearly absolutely clear. As in, seer'd, role/alignment known, etc. I didn't "clear" anybody.

It SERIOUSLY feels like you're trying to manufacture shade.

Good chance I vote Chaos today because this needs to be solved.

>>That doesn't mean I'm not going to respond to that one specific point in a post.

You literally said you were gonna vote me based on that

>> I can't tell if we're just using terminology differently, but to me "clear" means nearly absolutely clear. As in, seer'd, role/alignment known, etc. I didn't "clear" anybody.

You said you wouldnt expect Cyndia to put a wolf in her wolf reads , which is what I was referring to. I dont see why you wouldnt expect that of Cydia or anyone else

Btw Mr Cyndia doesnt bus , did you notice who she voted on D4?

 

[Chaostrodon]

Also how is this "over-reactive"?

I believe that post was made in bad faith and simply pointed it out

 

[WildZoo]

NIGHT CLOSED, RESULTS PENDING

 

[kaydubs]

Night 5

Not too long ago I was in Frank Fontaine's employ, not high in the ranks but close enough to know some things. When I found out what the Little Sister's Orphanage was really for, I faked my own death and made my way to Athena's Glory. I'd heard about a gathering of people there, good (or as good as anyone could be in Rapture) people, set on taking down Fontaine Futuristics. Given my history with the organization, I know friend or foe on sight.

So Athena's Glory wasn't much to look at for some, but it was home for him. Dark thoughts still plagued him, chased him in his waking dreams. Those poor little girls. He shuddered. Maybe he would forego sleep tonight.

He turned his attention to the photographs setting on the makeshift sofa table. Time to determine who else was still in Fontaine's evil network. After making note of another to pass on to the appropriate parties, he made his way to the window. Looking at the bubbles above, he didn't see the knife that slid into his back, severing his aorta.

Dead is @Dinashadow , who was Theo Flynn, a village affiliation seer.

~~~

I'll take freedom over these chains that bind.

Some people liked drugs, others like ADAM. But there was something about freedom that those things couldn't mimic. He turned to the electronic before him, cracked his knuckles. Focus.

A piercing pain.

His screams echoed through the night.

It is now Day 6. Deadline is tomorrow, March 12th, at 10pm EST.

15 players remain

Neptune's Bounty
1. @Animal Midwife
2. @Barkley13
5. @pawprintsandponytails

Arcadia
6. @Trilt
7. @holdthemayo
8. @Crayola227
9. @vetschoolsletmeinplease

Fort Frolic
11. @supershorty
12. @Lawpy

Hephaestus
overcome by lava

Olympus Heights
19. @Ms Procrastinator
22. LaineyLou ---> @jaboo

Point Prometheus
23. katashark ---> @samac
24. @Chaostrodon
25. @LetItSnow
26. @Lupin21

Dead
alissa - vanillager
april - village thief
barks - village weapons expert
sunshine - vanillager
zenge - wolf seer
Vis - village tracker
mkg - village protector
sporty - village blocker
alleycat - wolf blocker
genny - wealthy villager
Cyndia - wolf hacker
Dina - village affiliation seer

Subs:
---

Tots:
1. @Doggo Labs
2. @kraskadva
3. @ArteryStudyPainting​

 

[LetItSnow]

>>That doesn't mean I'm not going to respond to that one specific point in a post.

You literally said you were gonna vote me based on that

>> I can't tell if we're just using terminology differently, but to me "clear" means nearly absolutely clear. As in, seer'd, role/alignment known, etc. I didn't "clear" anybody.

You said you wouldnt expect Cyndia to put a wolf in her wolf reads , which is what I was referring to. I dont see why you wouldnt expect that of Cydia or anyone else

Btw Mr Cyndia doesnt bus , did you notice who she voted on D4?

I did not "literally" say that. You may have interpreted it that way, but that's not what I said.

I said I was going to vote you because this [meaning: you] needs to be solved. As in, the overall question of your status based on all of the history of the game.

 

[Chaostrodon]

vote LIS , obviously . It seems someone looked at me very closely

 

[Barkley13]

Dina if you happen to get up please seer me so we can put an end to this.

This was sketchy before Dina died and even more sketchy after she died