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I wish UAB would update their admissions info page.......................




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UAB????



Let me in someday???



P.S. For those of you interviewing this week, good luck! And do your best to dig for info for the rest of us. :luck:
 
I received an invitation for an interview from UAB on Sunday with directions to respond NLT Monday at noon. The interview was for this Thursday. Now I am not complaining but does anyone find an interview with such a short notice a bit odd? My other invitation for an interview was a month and half away.
 
I got my interview invite today for UAB. I think I'm going to go on 11/17 since I was already planning to take that day and Friday off from work.
 
Hi, I'm new to this forum, but I have a quick question. I sent my primary AMCAS to UAB on October 14, but have yet to hear anything back about a secondary. I was wondering if anyone knew what the cutoffs were for out-of-staters or if they choose to review your entire application? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
 
Where is everyone planning on spending their 3rd and 4th year? or what have you heard are the pros and cons of each campus? I feel like if I go to UAB I should be doing rotations at UAB, but thats just my take on it.
 
1/2asser said:
Where is everyone planning on spending their 3rd and 4th year? or what have you heard are the pros and cons of each campus? I feel like if I go to UAB I should be doing rotations at UAB, but thats just my take on it.
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From what I hear it comes out in the wash. I only have experience with people at the tuscaloosa and birmingham campuses, but workload wise the word is that peds is hell in bhm, pretty cush in tsc. The opposite is true in internal medicine. In bhm you see more complex stuff on surgery, but have to look over the shoulder of the attending, fellow, resident, intern, and 4th year. In tsc you may not see as wide a variety, but you'll often be first assist. If you're interested in a particular field you can rotate wherever you want for letters 4th year, the campus assignment is really only strict for 3rd year. Again, all of this is just word of mouth, but it seems like the selection should be based more on intangibles. For what it's worth, I'm going to be at the bhm campus, just cuz my wife will be working in bhm and I don't want to be moving around.
 
Why do they say peds is hell in bhm and cush in tusc?

I'm interviewing on the 17th too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🙂 I was totally in shock to get an invite last night. Yay.
 
BooMed said:
Why do they say peds is hell in bhm and cush in tusc?

I'm interviewing on the 17th too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🙂 I was totally in shock to get an invite last night. Yay.
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Congrats, BooMed! Still no news here.
 
MattD said:
From what I hear it comes out in the wash. I only have experience with people at the tuscaloosa and birmingham campuses, but workload wise the word is that peds is hell in bhm, pretty cush in tsc. The opposite is true in internal medicine. In bhm you see more complex stuff on surgery, but have to look over the shoulder of the attending, fellow, resident, intern, and 4th year. In tsc you may not see as wide a variety, but you'll often be first assist. If you're interested in a particular field you can rotate wherever you want for letters 4th year, the campus assignment is really only strict for 3rd year. Again, all of this is just word of mouth, but it seems like the selection should be based more on intangibles. For what it's worth, I'm going to be at the bhm campus, just cuz my wife will be working in bhm and I don't want to be moving around.
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I don't know where you've heard that Birmingham peds is hell, but 3 out of 3 of my classmates say that pediatrics in Birmingham is benign and well organized.

Neither do I get where you heard that Tuscaloosa medicine is horrible.

If your goal is a top notch residency, you will need letters from your core rotation attendings, the best of which are in Birmingham. Do not rely only on your AIs or electives. Even the smaller subspecialties would look to see a good medicine or surgery letter.
 
Can someone please answer the question I asked a few posts above???????
 
JPaikman said:
No. Take a chill pill - the secondary will come if they want you to have one.
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Wow, you're such a big help...all I asked was a simple question, you don't need to get pissy about it. I signed up for this forum b/c I thought the users are supposed to be friendly and informative and help others out...you definitely are not one of them.
 
kgoodz7 said:
Can someone please answer the question I asked a few posts above???????
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We don't know the answer, kgoodz. UAB seems to be sending secondaries out later than a lot of other schools do. Some out-of-staters have received secondaries. I'm one of them, but I submitted my AMCAS on June 1, so my experience probably isn't going to be helpful to you. FWIW, I received and submitted my secondary in October. If you're worried, you can try contacting the admissions office for more info.

jpaikman, don't pick on the pre-meds. You could be doing your rotations with this kid in a couple of years. 😉 😛
 
My piece of netiquette advice - don't expect answers to questions that:

a) have already been asked ad nauseum, to which nobody has an answer
b) that you yourself have asked on the very same thread just a few posts before, and therefore is still on the same page of posts
c) and wrote a second post that reads as if you're expectant of an answer

Nevertheless, good luck. I realize that folks are very anxious at this stage, but take it from me - anxiety will not serve you very well in school or in the clinics.

EDIT: I've seen the same "cutoff" question a million times for medical schools, and 9 out of 10 times no one knows the answer, or the school claims there is no cutoff, or the claimed cutoff is actually a "soft cutoff" (and therefore isn't a cutoff to begin with).
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Fact-check is my middle name.
 
kgoodz7 said:
Hi, I'm new to this forum, but I have a quick question. I sent my primary AMCAS to UAB on October 14, but have yet to hear anything back about a secondary. I was wondering if anyone knew what the cutoffs were for out-of-staters or if they choose to review your entire application? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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As I know it, your Oct 14 submission is within the deadline, so your application will be considered. Admissions is more selective for out-of-staters, so you would proabably need well above the 24 minimum MCAT that in-staters need. I have never found any cut-offs for GPA or MCAT scores of out-of-staters, but one should keep in mind that the vast majority of those accepted are in-state, and the out-of-staters submit a similar number of applications. So there is proabably less variability in scores for successful out-of-state applicants than for in-state applicants. A possible consequence of this is that out-of-staters may have a "virtual" cutoff that is somewhere closer to the average scores for accepted students: an MCAT around 29 or 30, and GPAs >3.6. Does anyone know how many out-of-state applicants are granted interviews?
 
That information is posted on the UAB website.

http://main.uab.edu/uasom/2/show.asp?durki=3614

Note that up to half of out-of-state entrants are MD/PhD students.

EDIT: 5 out of 16 nonresidents are MD/PhD students in 2005.
~25 (a reasonable guess) of 75 out-of-state interviewees were MD/PhD applicants in 2005.
~125 (a reasonable guess) of 1300 out-of-state applicants were MD/PhD applicants in 2005.
 
JPaikman said:
That information is posted on the UAB website.

http://main.uab.edu/uasom/2/show.asp?durki=3614

Note that up to half of out-of-state entrants are MD/PhD students.

EDIT: 5 out of 16 nonresidents are MD/PhD students in 2005.
~25 (a reasonable guess) of 75 out-of-state interviewees were MD/PhD applicants in 2005.
~125 (a reasonable guess) of 1300 out-of-state applicants were MD/PhD applicants in 2005.
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Wow, those are rough stats. JPaikman, if I get an invite, I'm going to take you out for a drink. :hardy:
 
JPaikman said:
That information is posted on the UAB website.

http://main.uab.edu/uasom/2/show.asp?durki=3614

Note that up to half of out-of-state entrants are MD/PhD students.

EDIT: 5 out of 16 nonresidents are MD/PhD students in 2005.
~25 (a reasonable guess) of 75 out-of-state interviewees were MD/PhD applicants in 2005.
~125 (a reasonable guess) of 1300 out-of-state applicants were MD/PhD applicants in 2005.
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WAHOOO I'm 1 in 125 people!!!! I'm gonna be over there 1/12-1/13!
 
Don't worry Q, I know that you're a strong canidate. As far as I can tell the only out-of-state interviews scheduled are for MD/PhD canidates.

Hmm, have any in-state MD/PhD folks interviewed? (If there are any of you.)
 
BooMed said:
Don't worry Q, I know that you're a strong canidate. As far as I can tell the only out-of-state interviews scheduled are for MD/PhD canidates.
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We'll all go out for a drink: you, me, and JPaikman. 👍
 
BooMed said:
Hmm, have any in-state MD/PhD folks interviewed? (If there are any of you.)
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In-state or out-of-state status for MD/PhD applicants is not part of the evaluation process. Applications are blind to residency status, as dictated by the NIH.
 
JPaikman said:
In-state or out-of-state status for MD/PhD applicants is not part of the evaluation process. Applications are blind to residency status, as dictated by the NIH.
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Interesting. Is UAB like other programs, where the students don't have to pay tuition? I think that is so cool.

It does seem as though no regular out-of-state applicants have been invited yet.
 
penguinophile said:
I'm all for that :clap:
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Me too. 👍

There are so many good places to go out here 😍 . The U can be fun, and the Garage...
 
BooMed said:
Interesting. Is UAB like other programs, where the students don't have to pay tuition? I think that is so cool.

It does seem as though no regular out-of-state applicants have been invited yet.
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Yes, and probably yes.
 
For those that have interviewed at South for regular decision, have you guys and gals heard anything yet? Ya'll take care
 
JPaikman said:
I don't know where you've heard that Birmingham peds is hell, but 3 out of 3 of my classmates say that pediatrics in Birmingham is benign and well organized.

Neither do I get where you heard that Tuscaloosa medicine is horrible.

If your goal is a top notch residency, you will need letters from your core rotation attendings, the best of which are in Birmingham. Do not rely only on your AIs or electives. Even the smaller subspecialties would look to see a good medicine or surgery letter.
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Hey, I'm just saying what I was told my some current third years... I'm sure it's a subjective qualification. But I certainly don't claim to have first hand knowledge!


Congrats on all the interview invites! I certainly hope to see all of you there in the fall :-D
 
uab84 said:
For those that have interviewed at South for regular decision, have you guys and gals heard anything yet? Ya'll take care
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interviewed 10/12, haven't heard anything yet, though i think we should be hearing sometime within the next 2 weeks
 
Interviewed at South 10/5, and I hopefully will here something positive around Nov. 14. Then I can go to my interview at UAB on 11/17 with a lot less stress 😀
 
ybbil919 said:
Interviewed at South 10/5, and I hopefully will here something positive around Nov. 14. Then I can go to my interview at UAB on 11/17 with a lot less stress 😀
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I am so tempted to just call and ask... this waiting game is so nerve-racking 😱 Mainly for the same reason as you, since my UAB interview is this Thurs.
 
How soon do UAB/USA let people know if they are accepted or not? (Not counting ED). Will we be in suspense for the next six months, or do they start accepting regular applicants pretty quickly?

*starts praying for the latter option* 😛
 
BooMed said:
How soon do UAB/USA let people know if they are accepted or not? (Not counting ED). Will we be in suspense for the next six months, or do they start accepting regular applicants pretty quickly?

*starts praying for the latter option* 😛
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USA said that we'd hear back in early-mid november within the first couple of weeks? That was for the applicants who interviewed in the early-mid october.

No clue on UAB, I'll report back after thursday
 
jammin06 said:
USA said that we'd hear back in early-mid november within the first couple of weeks? That was for the applicants who interviewed in the early-mid october.

No clue on UAB, I'll report back after thursday
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USA will send out first acceptances starting this week or the next. UAB meets once a month around the 15th and sends out acceptances.
 
hsvpan said:
USA will send out first acceptances starting this week or the next. UAB meets once a month around the 15th and sends out acceptances.
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Ooo.....intersting to hear. this means i could possibly hear pretty quickly after my nov. 10th interview. But who knows....always a crap shoot.
 
BooMed said:
How soon do UAB/USA let people know if they are accepted or not? (Not counting ED). Will we be in suspense for the next six months, or do they start accepting regular applicants pretty quickly?

*starts praying for the latter option* 😛
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The answer is: both quickly and slowly.

I was EDP this year and we found out within 24 hours. However, our situation is not typical. However, we (the EDP interviewees) met a panel of 3rd & 4th years who explained the acceptance decision making process to us over lunch. As has already been indicated on this site, UAB faculty meet once a month to decide. However, depending on the strength of your application & interviews, you may or may not get an acceptance letter. A certain number of students receive emails a day or so after the admissions committee meeting each month. These candidates (who received the acceptance letters) earned as many points as any candidates who have already been admitted for that academic year. If the school had a goal to accept 70 students by the second month of interviews, and they only have 55, then the "critical" value of points is lowered to a threshold that allows ~70 students to be accepted. Students who are good candidates but did not earn enough points are rolled over into the next round of interviews & consideration. During the next cycle of interviews, any students who earn enough points to meet or surpass the threshold (established the month prior) receive acceptance letters. If enough students have not been accepted at this time, the threshold is lowered slighlty. All those who meet the new criterion are then accepted, and the others are rolled over into the next cycle. This continues until enough people have been chosen.

A result of this procedure is that some people may get acceptance emails within 2-30 days, depending on which week of the month they interviewed, while others may wait 32-120+ days to get an acceptance letter, if their total number of points doesn't pass the threshold until one of the later admission cycles. A third option also exists: the admissions committee might decide that your aplication is subject to no further reveiw, in which case you should get a "non-acceptance" letter, or whatever they call it. However, I do not know when such letters are mailed.

So, if you interviewed recently, you may be getting a letter soon. And if you don't get a letter, it just means that they are still considering your application, so all is not lost!

*please note that I received most of these details from 3rd * 4th year med students who partook in the interview-day activities. I have no way of vouchsafeing their information, though their account of things does explain the pattern of letter-sending and such that others have reported.

Good luck to everyone with your interviews and applications!
 
Wow Odrade, thanks!

And congratulations as well. 🙂 Did they let you know through email?

Wouldn't we all love to know how all of these points are awarded. 😛
 
I got a thick envelope in the mail today and my mom put it at my place on the table. When I walked in the door for lunch, I got really nervous/excited until I got up close and it was nothing important 🙁 I told my mom that she couldn't do that to me again, it was too stressful for nothing!
 
They should know this is way too stressful a time to do anything like that!
 
QofQuimica said:
I got an envelope from UAB a few days ago and I was all excited. But it turned out to be from the alumni association, looking for me to send them money. 🙄 😡 :meanie:
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Oh great, that's awesome. I keep getting mail from my undergrad inviting me to become an undergraduate student. Umm... right, thanks.
 
odrade1 said:
The answer is: both quickly and slowly.

I was EDP this year and we found out within 24 hours. However, our situation is not typical. However, we (the EDP interviewees) met a panel of 3rd & 4th years who explained the acceptance decision making process to us over lunch. As has already been indicated on this site, UAB faculty meet once a month to decide. However, depending on the strength of your application & interviews, you may or may not get an acceptance letter. A certain number of students receive emails a day or so after the admissions committee meeting each month. These candidates (who received the acceptance letters) earned as many points as any candidates who have already been admitted for that academic year. If the school had a goal to accept 70 students by the second month of interviews, and they only have 55, then the "critical" value of points is lowered to a threshold that allows ~70 students to be accepted. Students who are good candidates but did not earn enough points are rolled over into the next round of interviews & consideration. During the next cycle of interviews, any students who earn enough points to meet or surpass the threshold (established the month prior) receive acceptance letters. If enough students have not been accepted at this time, the threshold is lowered slighlty. All those who meet the new criterion are then accepted, and the others are rolled over into the next cycle. This continues until enough people have been chosen.

A result of this procedure is that some people may get acceptance emails within 2-30 days, depending on which week of the month they interviewed, while others may wait 32-120+ days to get an acceptance letter, if their total number of points doesn't pass the threshold until one of the later admission cycles. A third option also exists: the admissions committee might decide that your aplication is subject to no further reveiw, in which case you should get a "non-acceptance" letter, or whatever they call it. However, I do not know when such letters are mailed.

So, if you interviewed recently, you may be getting a letter soon. And if you don't get a letter, it just means that they are still considering your application, so all is not lost!

*please note that I received most of these details from 3rd * 4th year med students who partook in the interview-day activities. I have no way of vouchsafeing their information, though their account of things does explain the pattern of letter-sending and such that others have reported.

Good luck to everyone with your interviews and applications!
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just to add weight to your statement, what you said is more or less what the director of admissions at South said during interview orientation. you earn points based on GPA, MCAT, and subjective skills awarded by interviewees.
 
Wow, the Alabama folks are really coming out of the woodwork!

Nice. 🙂
 
BooMed said:
Wow Odrade, thanks!

And congratulations as well. 🙂 Did they let you know through email?

Wouldn't we all love to know how all of these points are awarded. 😛
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They told us we would get an email first, then a letter in the (snail) mail. So of course I started checking my email every 20 minutes for the next day or so. My god! You couldn't give me less than 2 million dollars to live through the application process again. Oh wait...Match Day will be worse! At least I have a 4 year reprieve!
 
odrade1 said:
My god! You couldn't give me less than 2 million dollars to live through the application process again. Oh wait...Match Day will be worse! At least I have a 4 year reprieve!
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I agree wholeheartedly. The biggest reason I've made it this far is that I felt like I'd already invested so much money and time that there was no point in quitting now. :meanie:
 
Hey Q, I have a question. You have an incredible MCAT score, and I would assume that you would be competitive at a lot of great schools. However, it seems like you have your heart set on UAB. Is there any particular reason? Sorry for being nosey, but I'm just curious about your situation. If you'd rather not say, I totally understand
 
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