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pnasty said:
i have an interview next week at UAB....are they still interviewing for spots in the class or is the class full now?

I have one the following week so I'm wondering the same thing- has anybody heard anything? Oh and on the brighter side, Mark Scott told me the other day that interviewing was only half way done at this point. It was delayed greatly b/c of lack of hotel rooms following Katrina, so everybody who is interviewing there still has a great shot.
 
Even if the class is full (which I really doubt) they supposedly have great wait list movement. Good luck! :luck:
 
I don't know if the class would be full or not yet, but they're still gonna want waitlist people regardless. According to MSAR about 50% of instate applicants get interviews, and about 50% of those interviewees wind up enrolling. That means almost certainly MORE than 50% of interviewees get accepted. Dr. Smith kind of explained the acceptance procedure to us, and this is how it works. The initial round of interviewees go through, and everything they think about them is converted to some sort of score, which is also weighted in with their numbers to give an overall score. They'll establish a cutoff and then whoever in that group is above the cutoff get acceptances. That becomes the baseline score for future interview groups. If the average scores of future interview groups start drifting down, so they're not accepting as many from each group as they think they should be, they'll lower the cutoff a bit. Then, ANYBODY who's already interviewed, all the way back to the first group, who is above the new cutoff gets accepted. This goes on until the end. So, I'd say that anyone interviewing now actually has a better chance of getting in than earlier interviewers who haven't heard anything yet, because all you have to do is beat the current bar, whereas those people have to hope the bar gets lowered again. So, this post has been a long winded way of saying keep hope and good luck!

Boo-- considering the method just described, do you know if they even have a traditional waitlist? I'm just curious b/c I haven't heard of anyone being notified they were waitlisted, just that they were accepted/ rejected.
 
Good job explaining what Dr. Nathan said! 🙂

Well, I remember reading the Alabama thread from last year and it did seem like people were on the waitlist and waiting to get accepted. As time went on a lot of them were panicking, but one by one they all got accepted.

Do you know anyone who has already been flat-out rejected or do they wait until the end to tell people?
 
I just interviewed today. My interpretation from what we were told is that no one is rejected (post-interview) until around April at which time an official waitlist will be made. People who have already been rejected seem to be out of state people with lower stats. We were also told that the committee would be meeting tonight. I'm not sure whether this is just to consider those of us who interviewed today, or to consider everyone who has already interviewed. Hopefully, something in there is helpful to someone.
 
BooMed said:
Good job explaining what Dr. Nathan said! 🙂

Well, I remember reading the Alabama thread from last year and it did seem like people were on the waitlist and waiting to get accepted. As time went on a lot of them were panicking, but one by one they all got accepted.

Do you know anyone who has already been flat-out rejected or do they wait until the end to tell people?

That's interesting, I couldn't find an alabama thread last year, I'll have to go back and look... If they start a waitlist in april, that must be around when the class is finally full.

I don't know anyone who's been rejected, but I don't really know a lot of pre-meds either. I'd assume anyone who was rejected pre secondary or pre-interview would know, but all the interviewees are probably in a holding pattern. Just a guess of course!
 
did any of ya'll get acceptance emails from UAB this month..
also, has the adcom met for this month yet?
MattD said:
That's interesting, I couldn't find an alabama thread last year, I'll have to go back and look... If they start a waitlist in april, that must be around when the class is finally full.

I don't know anyone who's been rejected, but I don't really know a lot of pre-meds either. I'd assume anyone who was rejected pre secondary or pre-interview would know, but all the interviewees are probably in a holding pattern. Just a guess of course!
 
doc1984 said:
did any of ya'll get acceptance emails from UAB this month..
also, has the adcom met for this month yet?
bump
Again has anyone heard this month?
 
Are any of you applying for the cancer research positions for this summer?
 
BooMed said:
Are any of you applying for the cancer research positions for this summer?
I'm applying. I have an interview on Wednesday.
Which projects are you looking at?
 
Doctor&Geek said:
I work in the Cancer Center - PM me of you need help with regards to picking a mentor in the CAReS program.
Can you suggest a list of the best & worst 5 people to work for, or people who have a history of frustrating or abusing their students?
 
odrade1 said:
Can you suggest a list of the best & worst 5 people to work for, or people who have a history of frustrating or abusing their students?
Err.... Sorry I didn't notice the 'PM me' part the first time...
 
I'm studying basics of the cell cycle and response of cells to chemotherapy and radiation (formerly known as JPaikman).

I also don't think its a good idea for me to badmouth in public, or badmouth at all for that matter.
 
Doctor&Geek said:
I'm studying basics of the cell cycle and response of cells to chemotherapy and radiation (formerly known as JPaikman).

I also don't think its a good idea for me to badmouth in public, or badmouth at all for that matter.
Yes, it would be better instead to "good-mouth" the great CARES people that spring to your mind..
 
Jobs 9, 10, 27 are supervised by people I know and are nice basic science projects.
Jobs 25, 26, 27, 28 are good for people interested in surgery and are supervised by very good people
Job 33 is supervised by a Howard Hughes Medical Investigator (possibly the most famous scientist at UAB)
 
odrade1 said:
I'm applying. I have an interview on Wednesday.
Which projects are you looking at?

I would love to apply but I already have a job at the hospital that I committed to until June, when I'm going home to get married, then going on our honeymoon, then school starts... so it's not really practical for me. But I wish that I could.
 
Hey has anyone heard this month from the ADCOM at UAB or do you know when they meet next. Thanks.
 
Has anyone recieved the financial aid packet yet?

Good luck to all of you waiting to hear back! :luck:
 
Need advice... I got an interview at UAB for this week, but just found out I was accepted to one of my state schools. The only reason I would still be interested in UAB is if I could get in-state tuition at some point, like after a year. Does anyone know if this is possible? If not, I'd rather have my interview spot go to someone who really wants it.

Thanks!
 
I got good news and bad news from UAB last week. I was admitted but they're questioning my eligibility for in-state tuition. I was born in Ala and lived there and went to school there until I went to college in Missouri. After I graduated last May, I took a one year IRTA fellowship at NIH in DC. Unfortunately, in September my parents retired and moved to NC. Am i screwed in terms of in-state tuition? I'm still registered to vote in Al and have an AL driver's license. I feel like the "man without a country."
 
DryDoc said:
I got good news and bad news from UAB last week. I was admitted but they're questioning my eligibility for in-state tuition. I was born in Ala and lived there and went to school there until I went to college in Missouri. After I graduated last May, I took a one year IRTA fellowship at NIH in DC. Unfortunately, in September my parents retired and moved to NC. Am i screwed in terms of in-state tuition? I'm still registered to vote in Al and have an AL driver's license. I feel like the "man without a country."
I think you should have a case if you consistently claimed Alabama as your state of residence through your moves. I would emphasize your keeping your rights to vote here and your driver's license as evidence in good faith of your identity as an Alabama citizen.

Be careful what info you provide the paper pushers here. Sometimes giving a bureaucrat too much information is a bad thing, and can muddy the waters way too much.

I have known students at UAB who successfully petitioned for the change of residence status, and others who have not. I used to be able to find a document on the UAB website that outlined the criteria in detail. I moved to grad school in Ohio and managed to keep my Alabama status. I would think that you could explain your time in DC as graduate education while still an Alabama citizen/resident. Good Luck!
 
i interviewed at UAB last week and they specifically said that next year the residency rules will be changing. they said that out of state residents will no longer be in state after one year, but they also said something about enough money being available that things can be done to avoid this.




odrade1 said:
I think you should have a case if you consistently claimed Alabama as your state of residence through your moves. I would emphasize your keeping your rights to vote here and your driver's license as evidence in good faith of your identity as an Alabama citizen.

Be careful what info you provide the paper pushers here. Sometimes giving a bureaucrat too much information is a bad thing, and can muddy the waters way too much.

I have known students at UAB who successfully petitioned for the change of residence status, and others who have not. I used to be able to find a document on the UAB website that outlined the criteria in detail. I moved to grad school in Ohio and managed to keep my Alabama status. I would think that you could explain your time in DC as graduate education while still an Alabama citizen/resident. Good Luck!
 
Anyone know if there's been any decision reached regarding the possible cirriculum changes for next year? I remember hearing them say that they'd be discussing it around this time of year.
 
So I've read on the UAB website that apparently they've decided to postpone implementing the new curriculum until c/o 2011. Can you shed any light on this Paikman?

If true, I must say I'm kinda disappointed.
 
anyone know when they send out decisions? during the interview the guy pretty much said they decide on each candidate that day...so when do we find out?
 
MattD said:
So I've read on the UAB website that apparently they've decided to postpone implementing the new curriculum until c/o 2011. Can you shed any light on this Paikman?

If true, I must say I'm kinda disappointed.

No way, really? That kind of bumbs me out too! Did they say why?
 
Hey,

I talked with the one of the deans at the dental school (they are also having changes to their preclinical curricullum) and he told me that a lot of the basic science people on the medical side were up in arms about making this sort of transition for this fall. Drastic changes to curriculums tend to not go smoothly in the first year, especially if it is hurried. (See examples at UCSF & some other schools which have recently made large changes to the preclinical curriculum). Some folks would even recommend not going to a particular medical school if your class is going to be the "guinea pig", so to speak.
 
Doctor&Geek said:
Hey,

I talked with the one of the deans at the dental school (they are also having changes to their preclinical curricullum) and he told me that a lot of the basic science people on the medical side were up in arms about making this sort of transition for this fall. Drastic changes to curriculums tend to not go smoothly in the first year, especially if it is hurried. (See examples at UCSF & some other schools which have recently made large changes to the preclinical curriculum). Some folks would even recommend not going to a particular medical school if your class is going to be the "guinea pig", so to speak.

Thanks for the info. I was nervous about being the first year to try it out, although it sounded exciting as well. I guess I don't know very much about the curriculum anyway though, so I'm not sure it really matters. 😛
 
I was a little nervous about being the guinea pig, but I was very excited when I found out we were supposed to have a different curriculum. Needless to say, I am a little dissapointed...
On the plus side, at least we know what to expect now.
 
i actually think them not changing the curriculum is a very bad thing. the system they currently have in place is outdated in terms of the education curve, and pretty much every other school i had interviewed at had already switched to organ based PBL style classes. while UAB is a nationally recognized school that has made a ton of strives lately, i think this is where it is missing the boat. their facilities and research money are amazing. i wouldnt be surprised if their recognition jumps when/if they finally make the change




odrade1 said:
I was a little nervous about being the guinea pig, but I was very excited when I found out we were supposed to have a different curriculum. Needless to say, I am a little dissapointed...
On the plus side, at least we know what to expect now.
 
pnasty said:
i actually think them not changing the curriculum is a very bad thing. the system they currently have in place is outdated in terms of the education curve, and pretty much every other school i had interviewed at had already switched to organ based PBL style classes. while UAB is a nationally recognized school that has made a ton of strives lately, i think this is where it is missing the boat. their facilities and research money are amazing. i wouldnt be surprised if their recognition jumps when/if they finally make the change


Hmm, I have heard a lot of people on the allopathic board complaining about Problem Based Learning though. I wonder if it is really better.

Personally I would like to see med schools focus more on preventive care and diet/exercise, but that's just me. 🙂
 
BooMed said:
Good job explaining what Dr. Nathan said! 🙂

Well, I remember reading the Alabama thread from last year and it did seem like people were on the waitlist and waiting to get accepted. As time went on a lot of them were panicking, but one by one they all got accepted.

Do you know anyone who has already been flat-out rejected or do they wait until the end to tell people?


I couldnt find the alabama thread from last year. Does anyone know how to get to it?
 
pnasty said:
i actually think them not changing the curriculum is a very bad thing. the system they currently have in place is outdated in terms of the education curve, and pretty much every other school i had interviewed at had already switched to organ based PBL style classes. while UAB is a nationally recognized school that has made a ton of strives lately, i think this is where it is missing the boat. their facilities and research money are amazing. i wouldnt be surprised if their recognition jumps when/if they finally make the change

UAB is never going to get a lot of national recognition amongst applicants if we continue to accept far more in-state applicants than out-of-state applicants, and UAB continues to do very poorly in putting out academic physicians. The Dean has made it clear that there will be changes to both - both to increase the out-of-state applicant pool (and potentially accept more out-of-state applicants), to increase the size of the class, and to increase the weight for research and intention to enter academics in admissions.

http://www.uab.edu/uasom/informed/121505.pdf
 
Doctor&Geek said:
UAB is never going to get a lot of national recognition amongst applicants if we continue to accept far more in-state applicants than out-of-state applicants, and UAB continues to do very poorly in putting out academic physicians. The Dean has made it clear that there will be changes to both - both to increase the out-of-state applicant pool (and potentially accept more out-of-state applicants), to increase the size of the class, and to increase the weight for research and intention to enter academics in admissions.

http://www.uab.edu/uasom/informed/121505.pdf


Thank you for all of the interesting info Dr&Geek. I don't know where you find all of this stuff buy you really do your homework. 😛
 
Bump...Has anyone had any recent response from the admission committee. Thanks.
 
Doctor&Geek said:
UAB is never going to get a lot of national recognition amongst applicants if we continue to accept far more in-state applicants than out-of-state applicants, and UAB continues to do very poorly in putting out academic physicians. The Dean has made it clear that there will be changes to both - both to increase the out-of-state applicant pool (and potentially accept more out-of-state applicants), to increase the size of the class, and to increase the weight for research and intention to enter academics in admissions.
To me, the biggest turn-offs about UAB are the grading system (curved grades? blech!) and the scholarship awarding system (based on class rank, must be renewed each year). I agree that it would be better to have the organ-based system, but eh, that isn't the end of the world IMO. Anyway, I really like the school in general, and I even like B'ham, but those would be the things I'd suggest changing.
 
eg77ff1 said:
Bump...Has anyone had any recent response from the admission committee. Thanks.

No, but I do know that they are still interviewing. 🙂
 
QofQuimica said:
To me, the biggest turn-offs about UAB are the grading system (curved grades? blech!) and the scholarship awarding system (based on class rank, must be renewed each year). I agree that it would be better to have the organ-based system, but eh, that isn't the end of the world IMO. Anyway, I really like the school in general, and I even like B'ham, but those would be the things I'd suggest changing.
From the UASOM Alumni Magazine:

http://www.uab.edu/uasom/wcimg/uabmedicine_win2006.pdf
"We're the first class to use the quartile system of grading. In the past, the school used the traditional A-B-C grading, but for our year [the class of 2008] they introduced a new quartile system. Students who earn above a 70 get a "P" for pass; below that it's "F" for fail. Within the passing group, the top quartile are ranked "P1", the middle 50 percent is "P2/P3", and the bottom 25 percent is "P4".

"So now you're not just trying to get an A -- you're trying to be in the top 25 percent. I think it's introduced some additional competition but people here are very willing to help you out. If you don't understand something and ask a classmate, they're not going to refuse to tell you or misinform you to get an advantage".

"From what I understand, the adminstration noticed that how students perform in school is very well correlated with how they perform on the boards. The school wanted to delineate where that bottom 25 percent was so that those students were award that they were going to have to work hard to make it through. Another reason was that a lot of residency match programs were pushing for a more objective rating system from medical schools so they could see where students were compared to their classmates.
 
Doctor&Geek said:
Yeah, the students who gave us our tour told me that it wasn't very competitive there also. But they were in the middle of the pack. I'd be willing to wager that if you're one of the top students in the class, and especially if your scholarship for the following year depends on you maintaining your class rank, your life is going to be plenty miserable, and you may not want to be quite as cooperative with the classmates who will be taking the money away from you if they outscore you. 😉 That being said, if you're part of the P1 group, I'd love to hear more about your experiences, either here or by PM if you don't want to post.
 
Woohoo. Finally got accepted today. Interviewed back in November. I didn't think I was going to actually get in.
 
Congratulations Adonis about your great news!!!!!
 
adonis said:
Woohoo. Finally got accepted today. Interviewed back in November. I didn't think I was going to actually get in.


how did you find out? did the mail you?
 
pnasty said:
how did you find out? did the mail you?
EMail I just finished finished an incredibly hard cell bio test and this was the present that i got when I was finished 🙂
 
adonis said:
Woohoo. Finally got accepted today. Interviewed back in November. I didn't think I was going to actually get in.


Congratulations adonis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111 🙂
 
adonis said:
Woohoo. Finally got accepted today. Interviewed back in November. I didn't think I was going to actually get in.

That's great adonis! So are you definitely UAB bound or does some other school have the chance to steal you away?
 
Does anyone know when they start notifying about potential scholarship money?
 
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