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Not a "guaranteed bad guy" is very different from a villager. The night 1 writeup also very clearly says that Moira is the one who garrotted Wolfspeaker in the intro post. If I have to vote to kill someone, I'll go with the one with blood on her hands.

I don't think you understand that someone killing WS is a long-standing joke. I have no idea if that was actually me or not. If it was, then I fail to see why he would put that in there if I was truly a wolf. That has got to be one of the silliest reasons so far.

 

[StartingoverVet]

Lynch Vote Tally

Lissarae 3 (Nyanko, DocE, TRH)
Samoa 1 (DPMD)
Escalla 2 (Carbon, DDS)
DocE 3 (Phil, Devyn. SnS)

Uncast votes: 12

Waffle-o-meter-: 0

Lynch Deadline: 7:30pm ET.

while we are on the animated flower subject: completely bizarre image:

 

[Escalla]

She's guaranteed all about herself. It's hard to say if she is purposefully aware of her actions and their eventual outcomes, or if she bumbles along correcting her mistakes as they occur. She's also in bed with Maerlyn - deeply connected and ingrained.

She does what she can for her family. That is what she is motivated by. If she wasn't against Merlyn, she wouldn't have hired someone to kill him.

I'm not saying she's clean. I'm saying she's not the evil in this game and is a VILLAGER. It said so in my freaking role.

 

[Carbon]

I don't think you understand that someone killing WS is a long-standing joke. I have no idea if that was actually me or not. If it was, then I fail to see why he would put that in there if I was truly a wolf. That has got to be one of the silliest reasons so far.

Yes, Merlyn also had Nutmeg, JDH, and Fonz killed at the same time. It isn't about who Moira killed, it's about her being in that room and being part of the killing team. Moira is a bad man.

 

[devyn]

You all should know DocE always does that. He did it in Huh and plenty of other games we have played. Not saying that he isn't suspicious for other reasons, but late reveals is not one of them. I believe this game is going to be difficult in that the majority are going to have ambiguous characters that are highly suspicious but either villager or separate win conditions. I am also thinking the partnerships are going to be dicey.

I play with DocE enough to know exactly what he does..... I am suspicious of him for other reasons as well.... the late reveal really is not too much of my issue....

I think there are a lot of ambiguous rolls in this game and to think they all have separate win conditions is the silliest thing I have ever heard... I think SOV just likes to have highly ambiguous rolls to confuse the feck out of people

I think at most there will be one chaos character in the mix and it will be determining who the feck that is... roll wise

 

[Lupin21]

I play with DocE enough to know exactly what he does..... I am suspicious of him for other reasons as well.... the late reveal really is not too much of my issue....

I think there are a lot of ambiguous rolls in this game and to think they all have separate win conditions is the silliest thing I have ever heard... I think SOV just likes to have highly ambiguous rolls to confuse the feck out of people

I think at most there will be one chaos character in the mix and it will be determining who the feck that is... roll wise

So what is your take on FFM being blue in color? I imagine true villagers will be black and a wolf will be red. Do you think we got the one chaos character in FFM?

 

[Escalla]

Yes, Merlyn also had Nutmeg, JDH, and Fonz killed at the same time. It isn't about who Moira killed, it's about her being in that room and being part of the killing team. Moira is a bad man.

You're just fishing for reasons here.

So either you're either sticking with your blinders or there's something that you're not saying.

I had the mirakuru last night and I know anyone that uses it will be investigated as a wolf. So if that's what this is about, then whoever has had that item can confirm the description that states as such. But let's have a real argument rather than you saying SOV's fluff write-up implicates me as evil, because that's just stupid.

 

[shortnsweet]

You all should know DocE always does that. He did it in Huh and plenty of other games we have played. Not saying that he isn't suspicious for other reasons, but late reveals is not one of them. I believe this game is going to be difficult in that the majority are going to have ambiguous characters that are highly suspicious but either villager or separate win conditions. I am also thinking the partnerships are going to be dicey.

Yeah but...10 mins before the deadline?

I don't know. Maybe it's nothing, but that doesn't sit right with me, esp because FFM is coloured in blue...which makes me think he was not a villager.

 

[that redhead]

It was a one-time thing. I fail to see how that is relevant.

It means I would choose losing you over losing a villager with a role that is still available and helpful, even if you are a villager (which I'm not entirely convinced of).

 

[ddstothecor]

I play with DocE enough to know exactly what he does..... I am suspicious of him for other reasons as well.... the late reveal really is not too much of my issue....

I think there are a lot of ambiguous rolls in this game and to think they all have separate win conditions is the silliest thing I have ever heard... I think SOV just likes to have highly ambiguous rolls to confuse the feck out of people

I think at most there will be one chaos character in the mix and it will be determining who the feck that is... roll wise

Ambiguous rolls anyone?

 

[that redhead]

I had the mirakuru last night and I know anyone that uses it will be investigated as a wolf. So if that's what this is about, then whoever has had that item can confirm the description that states as such. But let's have a real argument rather than you saying SOV's fluff write-up implicates me as evil, because that's just stupid.

You said earlier that you used it and you didn't know what it did. But now you know that it causes the person to be investigated as a wolf?

 

[shortnsweet]

You said earlier that you used it and you didn't know what it did. But now you know that it causes the person to be investigated as a wolf?

😵

 

[that redhead]

I had the mirakuru last night and used it. I was told I was unusually violent but nothing particularly notable happened. So as to what it does/can do, still not sure.

Here.

 

[Escalla]

You said earlier that you used it and you didn't know what it did. But now you know that it causes the person to be investigated as a wolf?

Here's what I got. I don't know what it does because it didn't do anything as a result. I was assuming that there would be a positive effect since you're being investigated as something you're not.

Mirakuru: You have received the miracle drug that enhances human abilities. If you choose to use it, you will have enhanced abilities (for a night only, this is just a beta-test version), but you will also seer as a wolf this night.

You are unusually violent last night, but nothing else particularly notable has occurred. The effect has worn off.

 

[devyn]

So what is your take on FFM being blue in color? I imagine true villagers will be black and a wolf will be red. Do you think we got the one chaos character in FFM?

SOV likes to use multiple colours often in games.... it is his MO....

do I think FFM was a chaos character, no.... I think he was in one of SOV's so called groupings and probably had no fecking idea he was

SOV likes to feck with people's minds in games with the colours that end up meaning nothing other then the groupings he has come up with in his head.....

he has had games with over 5 colour categories and only the wolves and one chaos character had a win condition....

 

[Escalla]

It means I would choose losing you over losing a villager with a role that is still available and helpful, even if you are a villager (which I'm not entirely convinced of).

I'm also the mayor and there will be no mayor after I'm dead. Not something I would casually kill off.

 

[devyn]

Here's what I got. I don't know what it does because it didn't do anything as a result. I was assuming that there would be a positive effect since you're being investigated as something you're not.

Mirakuru: You have received the miracle drug that enhances human abilities. If you choose to use it, you will have enhanced abilities (for a night only, this is just a beta-test version), but you will also seer as a wolf this night.

You are unusually violent last night, but nothing else particularly notable has occurred. The effect has worn off.

I had this the first night.... I did not use it

but it does in fact say that you will seer as a wolf that night if you use it

 

[shortnsweet]

SOV likes to use multiple colours often in games.... it is his MO....

do I think FFM was a chaos character, no.... I think he was in one of SOV's so called groupings and probably had no fecking idea he was

SOV likes to feck with people's minds in games with the colours that end up meaning nothing other then the groupings he has come up with in his head.....

he has had games with over 5 colour categories and only the wolves and one chaos character had a win condition....

Except that FFM in his final moments wouldn't give a straight answer as to if he was villager or wolf....or he didn't know what he was...

 

[Carbon]

You're just fishing for reasons here.

So either you're either sticking with your blinders or there's something that you're not saying.

I had the mirakuru last night and I know anyone that uses it will be investigated as a wolf. So if that's what this is about, then whoever has had that item can confirm the description that states as such. But let's have a real argument rather than you saying SOV's fluff write-up implicates me as evil, because that's just stupid.

The mirakuru has nothing to do with it. You're a wolf.

 

[DocEspana]

Unlynch whomever I was lay ching before
Lynch escalla

No way the b*tch queen isn't someone needing a death.

Also going after me for doing what I always do (and explained why I did it) is silly. Not like I don't do it every time.

 

[Lupin21]

SOV likes to use multiple colours often in games.... it is his MO....

do I think FFM was a chaos character, no.... I think he was in one of SOV's so called groupings and probably had no fecking idea he was

SOV likes to feck with people's minds in games with the colours that end up meaning nothing other then the groupings he has come up with in his head.....

he has had games with over 5 colour categories and only the wolves and one chaos character had a win condition....

I agree there could be a lack of win conditions, but where do they fit in on end game? Do they count as villager, or something else?

 

[Escalla]

The mirakuru has nothing to do with it. You're a wolf.

You are going to look SO stupid if I'm lynched. Really.

 

[that redhead]

I'm also the mayor and there will be no mayor after I'm dead. Not something I would casually kill off.

It's not at all casual, it's the fact that your role name is pretty strongly against you too.

I doubt you would have run for mayor as a wolf, but we also don't know that you would seer as a wolf just yet, and that might have been incentive. Carbon has a good point about a flashy entrance to engender villager trust - a bold move to destroy a powerful weapon if you were really a wolf but a sound strategy if true.

 

[Carbon]

You are going to look SO stupid if I'm lynched. Really.

Noted.

 

[Escalla]

It's not at all casual, it's the fact that your role name is pretty strongly against you too.

I doubt you would have run for mayor as a wolf, but we also don't know that you would seer as a wolf just yet, and that might have been incentive. Carbon has a good point about a flashy entrance to engender villager trust - a bold move to destroy a powerful weapon if you were really a wolf but a sound strategy if true.

You need to take off your freaking blinders and this stupid assumption that Moira is a wolf. She is ambiguous, she is not evil.

I was specifically told in my role that I am a villager.

 

[Escalla]

Moira Queen: you are an ambiguous villager. You can prevent the use of the earthquake machine once if you so desire. You may only attempt this once, so try to be sure to pick the right night.

 

[Chillbo Baggins]

Yeah but...10 mins before the deadline?

Well, that's what I did in Huh, and it ended up working out.

ALSO!

Let it be known that I had the book last night, looked at Dwin, and his name is listed inside. His role name and ability sound wolfy as balls, as well.

 

[Escalla]

Also, here is my convo with SOV when I was trying to figure out a way to get rid of the earthquake machines and not waste my ability on a random night:

I see what you are getting at now.
IF the earthquake machines were both used on the same location tonight,
AND you used your role, preventing it from occurring,
then you have permanently removed them from the game.

IF you use your role tonight,
and the earthquake machines are NOT used on the same location,
you have used up your role, and the machines are still in play.

IF you use your role,
and you are blocked,
and they both would have been used on the same location,
then EARTHQUAKE OCCURS….


As to whether blocking blocks just role, or also blocks items…..
I will not answer that for you…
So I will not discuss those options.

 

[devyn]

I agree there could be a lack of win conditions, but where do they fit in on end game? Do they count as villager, or something else?

I think they count for the villager side...

 

[ddstothecor]

I only read the wikiArrow page, but I know Moira only cares about herself. I don't know if that makes you a wolf or not. Do we believe the hapless prosecutors or the solid defense team? Yet, still your approval rating is 43%. It must be nice to have Maerlyn as one of your backers.

 

[DocEspana]

Yeah but...10 mins before the deadline?

I don't know. Maybe it's nothing, but that doesn't sit right with me, esp because FFM is coloured in blue...which makes me think he was not a villager.

How many times did I drop over and over that id go with FFM? He was leading the vote and I was trying to get him to give me info by pm. I didn't realize how late to deadline I made it.

 

[devyn]

How many times did I drop over and over that id go with FFM? He was leading the vote and I was trying to get him to give me info by pm. I didn't realize how late to deadline I made it.

Doesn't matter... FFM was not a wolf... he was a criminal... he counted for the villagers...

it was a bad choice

 

[shortnsweet]

How many times did I drop over and over that id go with FFM? He was leading the vote and I was trying to get him to give me info by pm. I didn't realize how late to deadline I made it.

I guess I get what you are saying. But day 1, how much info did you expect him to have?

 

[Lupin21]

Well, that's what I did in Huh, and it ended up working out.

ALSO!

Let it be known that I had the book last night, looked at Dwin, and his name is listed inside. His role name and ability sound wolfy as balls, as well.

I am pretty sure most people's groups are going to consist of a questionable person and a regular villager. At least based on what has been discovered so far. Doc's and FFM, Lissa and Nyanko, you and Dwin. As we have seen, Rojo and Escalla also fit the description. The trick is going to be finding the true wolves, just my two cents.

 

[StartingoverVet]

Lynch Vote Tally

Lissarae 2 (Nyanko,, TRH)
Samoa 1 (DPMD)
Escalla 3 (Carbon, DDS, DocE)
DocE 3 (Phil, Devyn. SnS)

Uncast votes: 12

Waffle-o-meter-: 1

Lynch Deadline: 7:30pm ET.


GIF of a dog after a magician makes his treat disappear.

 

[that redhead]

You need to take off your freaking blinders and this stupid assumption that Moira is a wolf. She is ambiguous, she is not evil.

I was specifically told in my role that I am a villager.

I'm not assuming she's a wolf, I'm taking in information available and recognizing that she sounds wolfy; if I was convinced you were a wolf I'd have voted for you by now.

 

[Escalla]

I only read the wikiArrow page, but I know Moira only cares about herself. I don't know if that makes you a wolf or not. Do we believe the hapless prosecutors or the solid defense team? Yet, still your approval rating is 43%. It must be nice to have Maerlyn as one of your backers.

I've done the best I can with what I've been given and that meant getting rid of the killing item. Why would I be given the ability to destroy them if I was a wolf?

SOV even said this in the first write-up:

Sadly for the evil plotters of the world, the two earthquake machines have been destroyed, and the mods are sad not to have seen their item used to KILL both the occupants of one of the locations in SDN city.

I'm seriously not a wolf. I've posted everything I can to try and show you that I'm not. There are far more evil people in this show and SOV has simply decided to feck with me because he knew this would happen.

 

[Escalla]

I'm not assuming she's a wolf, I'm taking in information available and recognizing that she sounds wolfy; if I was convinced you were a wolf I'd have voted for you by now.

I was addressing your comment about my role name, but I understand. I just wish there was a way to prove it.

Clearly being investigated doesn't clear you when you're a villager. Given that the mirakuru had nothing to do with it, then affiliation isn't given.

If there is another investigator out there that can see affiliations.....please investigate me so that it can be proven that Moira is indeed a villager.

 

[DVMDream]

Here's what I got. I don't know what it does because it didn't do anything as a result. I was assuming that there would be a positive effect since you're being investigated as something you're not.

Mirakuru: You have received the miracle drug that enhances human abilities. If you choose to use it, you will have enhanced abilities (for a night only, this is just a beta-test version), but you will also seer as a wolf this night.

You are unusually violent last night, but nothing else particularly notable has occurred. The effect has worn off.

I am slightly confused about one thing...

You stated that your role was a one-time ability. This Mirakuru item "enhances" abilities... but since you no longer had any, why would you use it?

Maybe I am missing something here with the item, but it just seems odd to use an item that enhances abilities when you no longer have abilities and now will seer as wolf.

 

[Escalla]

I am slightly confused about one thing...

You stated that your role was a one-time ability. This Mirakuru item "enhances" abilities... but since you no longer had any, why would you use it?

Maybe I am missing something here with the item, but it just seems odd to use an item that enhances abilities when you no longer have abilities and now will seer as wolf.

I was hoping that there would be something more to it. Like if you were attacked or targeted in some way that it would give you an avoidance since it Mirakuru gives people better senses and way more strength in the show.

It was more of a question of why wouldn't I just see what it did since I didn't think it would hurt.

 

[devyn]

I am keeping my vote for now... I find it hard to believe someone whose role it was which was to destroy a killing item is a wolf....

I would rather there be further investigation before lynching occurs... I don't care if she is sans roll now - it is still a villager number if she is a villager

 

[ddstothecor]

Why are voting to lynch yourself, Escalla?

 

[Escalla]

Why are voting to lynch yourself, Escalla?

What? I haven't voted yet.

 

[Escalla]

@StartingoverVet

I think you mixed up me and DocE on the lynch tally.

 

[Escalla]

There is one thing that is making me wonder if FFM indeed counted towards villager numbers or not. Both FFM and Lissa have said that they're not a wolf, but didn't say they were a villager. I've told this to Rojo, but might as well discuss it here.

I'm assuming that all villagers have it stated in their role that they are a villager, do they not? Just something to note. I'm not convinced they're wolves but I don't think they're villagers.

 

[LetItSnow]

I'm fairly confident DocE is making a mistake about Escalla (and have some evidence to support my confidence).

I'm going to lynch DocE. I don't really have any feeling about DocE being a villager one way or the other, but since I do think Escalla is a villager, I'm throwing the defensive vote for now.

 

[Chillbo Baggins]

Lynch Lissa

 

[kaydubs]

my head. it hurts. this is ridiculous. I just caught up on the thread & feel the need to re-read it. At least 2 more times. -.-

 

[Cyndia]

Yeah, I'm not convinced Escalla is a wolf - While Moira is selfish, she wasn't all terrible in the show, and I think there are plenty of other characters that would make for better wolves. Not to mention it makes no sense for SOV to have given a wolf the ability to destroy the earthquake machine.

I'm going to go with lynch lissa for now. Not that I think a message is trustworthy in any way, but since it was right about the fact she is a blocker, maybe it was also true about saying she can block team arrows protector.

 

[nyanko]

Doesn't matter... FFM was not a wolf... he was a criminal... he counted for the villagers...

it was a bad choice

How do you KNOW that?

I can block twice but not anyone specifically.

I'm just relaying what I was told.