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hmmm this will be interesting. I don't know a lot of these players very well.


Lynch Dino


because I don't know her



*so used to the other game and almost wrote kill vs lynch
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aHhh now Have to get used to normal wording again
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*twitch* pocketing attempt when people were questioning her?



Went to the doctors and then came home and passed out until a little bit ago.



I can’t remember if this is your regular amount of hedging that I always get on your case for or if this is your Wolf!Snowy hedging. I’m giving you sketch points for trying to fuel a SAR v ZJ lynch while taking zero stance.



Y’all really craving that Cheesy D today aren’t you?
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Unlynch dino

Lynch Paws


I don't see a problem with any of dolphins posts right now and she's explained herself fine and you keep probing. Just seems weird to me... maybe trying to protect SAR? I could also get on a SAR or pickle lynch.


And not satisfied with one post from this dino chick... but I hate real voting just based on they haven't posted enough on D1.


@PippyPony Here you go!

The bolded "real voting" statement means that Snowy should have been lynching a whole bunch of people on D1, but they didn't.

I was s*** posting (I think it is normal for me), but I wasn’t going to place a retaliatory vote because of Snowy wanting to lynch me for no reason (that would look bad on me). Plus I was really interested in the convo between Strog and me. I think Snowy liked that I was screwing with a potential villager or Snowy really didn't like that I was screwing with a potential wolf (and that is why they chose to lynch me? I'm not sure). This last statement only really matters now that Snowy flipped wolf. I wasn't on their back, I was on Strog's, and I had a pickles lynch that started and Snowy was right on that bandwagon (Snowy can't claim that it was because I was sketchy now can they? Actually other wolves can still claim this still, so never mind).

I wasn’t sure about Snowy as their posts were a little strange, but I wasn’t positive enough to vote someone out that may be village.

Edit: I posted the same quote twice.
 
What do you mean? There wasn't a tie at EOD.
Also, this is a ridiculous pushback to a valid statement.

That tie sat there for a long ass time yesterday before anyone moved a muscle. I want to know why it all went to hell at the end, and who was actually at risk of dying in that RNG -- both times it was tied up.
 
Sorry -- why is self-preservation sketchy?

Do you not know your own affiliation? 😵 that should be more info than you have about another person's affiliation.

And if you are dying and are a villager, does it really matter how your votes look when you are dead? They are going to look village.

I don't understand this thought process at all -- if anything, I feel like you just dug a bigger hole for yourself by trying to explain your way out
I have seen wolves do self-prez too, the wolves from my pack in the noob game, for example. 😉

It will look village. Do you have a problem with me looking village? Lynch me then and we will see what that says about others.
 
Your wording is a little confusing, are you referring to myself or strog? If it is the latter then see the above quote (there were more than one). If you are asking about me then I think I have already posted a few things, the timing of your vote to me, MJ creating a tie between yourself and someone else, shelter's lack of actual content (despite having the time to go through the thread and post a ton of quotes, none of which had analysis that came along with them). I'm not going to quote all my posts from today but that's a little summary. If I did not answer the bolded please rephrase it because I don't know if I'm understanding what that means.
I did mean your analysis of Strog's wolf hunting. Sorry for not clarifying.
 
Alright I have bowling league starting here shortly so I am going to go ahead and

Lynch stroganoff

Based on my noob gut feelz and after pippy posted her wall it does reinforce there are some reasons to have him on the radar
 
I have seen wolves do self-prez too, the wolves from my pack in the noob game, for example. 😉

It will look village. Do you have a problem with me looking village? Lynch me then and we will see what that says about others.
Good grief nooblet, do you want me to switch to you?

We get it -- you feel the need to tell people you are village. I don't give a flying **** about how you look or about how I look, or about how I might look because of how I think you look.

Edit: that sounded grumpier than I meant it, but that is one of my favorite curses, so I'm sticking with it 😉
 
Nope, cause SAR broke it and then flipped her **** about how it was stressful af, and then was mad when Cheezit wouldn't give her credit for the switch.

Dina, Barks, and Snowy were involved in the tie though. Unless you think Dina or Barks are wolves, that tie effectively lowers the chances of a wolf dying.
 
Also, this is a ridiculous pushback to a valid statement.

That tie sat there for a long ass time yesterday before anyone moved a muscle. I want to know why it all went to hell at the end, and who was actually at risk of dying in that RNG -- both times it was tied up.

dubz' tracker explains exactly how it happened.
 
I mean, I just read it, so my working memory also explains how it happened.

Then I'm confused as to what you're talking about unless you're referring to a different tie than the one I described.
 
Sorry -- why is self-preservation sketchy?

Do you not know your own affiliation? 😵 that should be more info than you have about another person's affiliation.

And if you are dying and are a villager, does it really matter how your votes look when you are dead? They are going to look village.

I don't understand this thought process at all -- if anything, I feel like you just dug a bigger hole for yourself by trying to explain your way out
Plus everything I do matters, and wolves and other villagers will use what I do to my disadvantage (self-prez included). What if I did a self-prez vote, didn't die, and another villager died instead? How will that make me look D2, like bait for the wolves to use to get villagers to lynch me? My votes don't matter when I am dead (my posts would matter, so would others' posts about me), my votes matter now because I am not dead. I see your tunneling, but it won't make me lynch you (is that what you want?).
 
D3 Lynch Tally

bryndy (4)
- sar, dubz, pickles, dina
pippy (1) - mj
sar (2) - shelter, pip
shelter (3) - am, bryndy, sporty
dina () -
allie (1) - genny
Barks (1) - allie
strog (1) - cubs

@bryndiana.jones is in the lead! @sheltermed is a close second

Missing: Barks, Strog

13/15

Deadline 10pm est (~2.75 hours)


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Good grief nooblet, do you want me to switch to you?

We get it -- you feel the need to tell people you are village. I don't give a flying **** about how you look or about how I look, or about how I might look because of how I think you look.

Edit: that sounded grumpier than I meant it, but that is one of my favorite curses, so I'm sticking with it 😉
I am a nooblet, sorry, not sorry. Lynch me if it pleases you.
 
I'm not sold on the bryndi lynch because I can't find anything sketchy in her actual posts despite her sketchy voting so I'm going to

Lynch shelter

due to lack of participation and of any analysis in her posts when she is here and for what seem to be throwaway votes

edit: forgot a word
 
You can't claim you don't vote off of people's metas....
For your other question (above?), yeah it could be possible allie and mj are both wolves together. MJ is a tough one to read though because he always comes off like he loves chaos.
Didn't say that

My other question was asking how the lynch on you was lazy
 
OK.

@Animal Midwife - this is where I am saying it would be stupid for MJ to make a tie. This was at like 7:30...so not super close to close, but also close enough where starting **** like this would be kinda dumb if he was a wolf, imo.

Lynch Pickle
To make things closer to interesting
Is the Snowy lynch not interesting to you are are you just trying to die as tiemaker?
Day 2 Lynch Tally

Snowy (4)
- AM, Paws, Dina, Mel
SAR (1) - WZ
shelter (1) - Sporty
Strog (1) - pickles
pickles (4) - Strog, Snowy, barkley, mj
allie (1) - genny
Dina (1) - SAR

@SnowshoeDog143 and @picklegurl are in the lead

Tie!

13/17

Missing: @sheltermed @devyn @allieh8607 @bryndiana.jones

Deadline 10pm est (~2.5 hours)
Now it is 4-4.

Then this happens:
I guess we will find out when lynch closes right?
Unless I'm lynched first 😉
Or MJ dies. Don't forget, there are 3 of us on the line now.
Day 2 Lynch Tally

Snowy (4)
- AM, Paws, Dina, Mel
SAR (1) - WZ
shelter (1) - Sporty
Strog (1) - pickles
pickles (4) - Strog, Snowy, barkley, mj
allie (1) - genny
Dina (1) - SAR

snowy and pickles are in the lead!

Tie!

13/17

Missing: shelter, devyn, allieh, bryndy

Deadline 10pm est (~1.5 hours)
Still a tie, an hour later. So, if MJ is a wolf, then they are at 2/3 still at risk of dying.

Cheezit then breaks the tie by unlynching:
Unlynch Snowy

Something doesn't feel right. If snowy is a wolf I feel like there's a lack of response from the pack. No bussing, no fighting my argument (unless you count pickle), no offering up a counterwagon besides pickle today (and it seems that counterwagon is a result of her shooting off her mouth a lot more than it is because she did something wolfy.). It doesn't feel right.

What was your reasoning behind this? Did you get the reactions you thought you would? Do you have a runner up?


I'd prefer not to lynch Pickles today because I feel like she's pretty village.

So if we're waffling off of Snowy do we have a 3rd option. I'm on Dina and obviously have feels there. Could easily switch to Allie. Any thoughts, anyone?
Despite this statement, people hang out on Pickles with her in the lead for a while

I can join you there if people don't want Snowy lynched.
Unlynch Snowy
Lynch Dina
Nice counterwagon, especially if Dina and pickles are both village.

*******
Day 2 Unofficial Mt Washington Weather Cat's Lynch Tally

Snowy (2) - Paws, Dina
SAR (1) - WZ
shelter (1) - Sporty
Strog (1) - pickles
pickles (4) - Strog, Snowy, barkley, mj
allie (1) - genny
Dina (2) - SAR, am
genny (1) - Mel

pickles is in the lead!

13/17

Missing: shelter, devyn, allieh, bryndy

Deadline 10pm est (~40 min)
*******

Pickles still in the lead
Can I get a recap of why those 4 are on pickles? Cause if she flips village on weak lynch reasons when there are other candidates that's drawing a lot of attention to those on that lynch. And my side eye

Are people lynching pickles now? That's lame. Don't lynch my granddaughter.
Unlynch sar lynch allie
:shrug:
This was a nothing vote to a nothing vote, in terms of saving Miss Pickles, btw.

Are we really going to lynch pickles?
Guess so! Except not, because then all hell breaks loose

I actually agreed with this until I read back and saw the pickle votes piling
So I don't think I agree anymore
And catching up, I may actually have seen what I was looking for with the SAR vote. Unsure, but I do find snowy's vote today interesting.
I agree, I also found Snowy's vote interesting. And this is kind of what I was getting at with asking you earlier.

Unlynch dina

Lynch snowy

Gahhhhhh
^Panic, breaks the new tie away from pickles and onto to snowy

Plus everything I do matters, and wolves and other villagers will use what I do to my disadvantage (self-prez included). What if I did a self-prez vote, didn't die, and another villager died instead? How will that make me look D2, like bait for the wolves to use to get villagers to lynch me? My votes don't matter when I am dead (my posts would matter, so would others' posts about me), my votes matter now because I am not dead. I see your tunneling, but it won't make me lynch you (is that what you want?).
I don't care if you lynch me.

I feel like you should be less concerned with how your votes may look to other people if **** hits the fan and things don't go as planned, and more concerned about voting for who you think is a wolf. And letting yourself die -- instead of trying to save yourself -- looks super wolfy to me, because you're not going to get affiliation info handed to you on a silver platter. Literally the only data point you have is that YOU are a villager. So if it comes down to saving yourself, who you know for sure is 100% a villager and you keep telling us about it, I do not understand why you are not prioritizing that actual, hard data over maybe looking wolfy to someone later on.

It doesn't make sense to me...unless you are sketchy, and not sure how things are going to turn out later, so you don't want to draw attention to yourself by doing sketchy things if you happen to survive. Do you see what I mean?

Do you think this is something a wolf would do so obviously?
I don't know. No. Maybe. It's not really what I'm getting at.

I don't like how things stagnated yesterday. It felt odd to me.
 
I'm imagining the stars are covering up s q u i r r e l
Did I tell you all that I had flying squirrels set up shop in my house last fall (a little over a year ago?)

I love them, I almost didn't want to kick them out.

They live in our dilapidated old garden shed now, and I haven't told our landlord that they're in there. Shhhhhh.
 
You've got sass that scares me

Like, I have had numerous psychotic people threaten to murder me and laughed it off, but you? Your sass is scary
I mean, you have actually seen me be scary IRL, so I gotta say I'm surprised that this sass is what's tipping you off to the fact that I might be a nutjob. Might want to re-evaluate the quality of that residency program 😉
 
I mean, you have actually seen me be scary IRL, so I gotta say I'm surprised that this sass is what's tipping you off to the fact that I might be a nutjob. Might want to re-evaluate the quality of that residency program 😉
Oh, you very well know I know you're USDA grade AAA crazy, I just try to have some discretion because I like you as a person even if I loathe you in WW :laugh:
 
@Animal Midwife - this is where I am saying it would be stupid for MJ to make a tie. This was at like 7:30...so not super close to close, but also close enough where starting **** like this would be kinda dumb if he was a wolf, imo.
You think it would be stupid for a wolf to make a tie several hours before lynch close that puts a villager at risk with wolves? Instead of a 100% chance of a wolf dying, it goes to 66%? Especially given the village propensity for waffles?
 
OK.

@Animal Midwife - this is where I am saying it would be stupid for MJ to make a tie. This was at like 7:30...so not super close to close, but also close enough where starting **** like this would be kinda dumb if he was a wolf, imo.






Now it is 4-4.

Then this happens:




Still a tie, an hour later. So, if MJ is a wolf, then they are at 2/3 still at risk of dying.

Cheezit then breaks the tie by unlynching:




Despite this statement, people hang out on Pickles with her in the lead for a while


Nice counterwagon, especially if Dina and pickles are both village.



Pickles still in the lead




This was a nothing vote to a nothing vote, in terms of saving Miss Pickles, btw.


Guess so! Except not, because then all hell breaks loose


I agree, I also found Snowy's vote interesting. And this is kind of what I was getting at with asking you earlier.


^Panic, breaks the new tie away from pickles and onto to snowy


I don't care if you lynch me.

I feel like you should be less concerned with how your votes may look to other people if **** hits the fan and things don't go as planned, and more concerned about voting for who you think is a wolf. And letting yourself die -- instead of trying to save yourself -- looks super wolfy to me, because you're not going to get affiliation info handed to you on a silver platter. Literally the only data point you have is that YOU are a villager. So if it comes down to saving yourself, who you know for sure is 100% a villager because you keep telling us about it, I do not understand why you are not prioritizing actual, hard data over maybe looking wolfy to someone later on.

It doesn't make sense to me...unless you are sketchy, and not sure how things are going to turn out later, so you don't want to draw attention to yourself by doing sketchy things if you happen to survive. Do you see what I mean?



I don't know. No. Maybe. It's not really what I'm getting at.

I don't like how things stagnated yesterday. It felt odd to me.
I am learning how to play. Also, everyone thought I looked sketchy since D1, do you urge me to continue to still look sketchy by acting less village? Also, if I had affiliation info (strictly wolf and village affiliation, no roles, which is still a lot of info imo) handed to me on a silver platter, that would make me a wolf. So, you are saying that me trying to get info on people's affiliation is a wolfy thing to do? Good to know that villagers don't try to find out people's affiliations, so they don't accidentally lynch the wrong person (what a weird way to play).

You will again claim that I am trying to look "too village" with this post, but that is all I have for you right now. I'm sorry if I don't have any other information for you.
 
So still learning the ropes to all of this and I had to cram 3 days of this into this morning so surely I’m missing some things but the one thing I’ve consistently seen are these mega posts by stroganoff complete with stats and conspiracy theories. Would that not be considered wolfish behavior? Especially after he called someone else out for “trying to hard?”
Nah, here's why:
1) I think the lynch tracker is awesome and haven't played a game where someone posted one. I guess it's also called VCA.
2) I wanted to get my thoughts out at night time in case I woke up dead after a NK and couldn't talk more.
3) I enjoy the hunt. This is not unusual WW behavior for me. The reason the long posts haven't emerged up until this point is I'm usally more observant in early game (e.g. D1 and D2, maybe D3) because there's not yet much to go off that's reliable.
 
OK.

@Animal Midwife - this is where I am saying it would be stupid for MJ to make a tie. This was at like 7:30...so not super close to close, but also close enough where starting **** like this would be kinda dumb if he was a wolf, imo.

This starts at 7:00 actually. So three hours until close.

Now it is 4-4.

Then this happens:

Still a tie, an hour later. So, if MJ is a wolf, then they are at 2/3 still at risk of dying.

That's still an hour and a half from close with almost 25% of the roster not voting yet. Why would it stay this way?

Cheezit then breaks the tie by unlynching:

Yes, with an hour to half to go. And four people still not voting.

^Panic, breaks the new tie away from pickles and onto to snowy

The tie was already broken by Mel at this point.
 
You think it would be stupid for a wolf to make a tie several hours before lynch close that puts a villager at risk with wolves? Instead of a 100% chance of a wolf dying, it goes to 66%? Especially given the village propensity for waffles?
I'm just saying, it wouldn't be my top choice of moves to rely on someone else breaking the tie, unless the wolf was a high value one (sorry Snowy, you are a valuable person) who had not already gotten suspicion thrown all over her.
 
Strog said:
K. I'm just jelly people get to be wolves but then are all prematurely wolfy before the sun goes down. :smack:

Like "HAY GUISE LOOK AT MY BODY HAIR. THAT'S FUNNY, CONSIDERING I JUST SHAVED MY LEGS. WEIRD, HUH?"
You are acting very wolfy imo so is this self-deprecating? 😛

^ So this is just humor. If you look at my WW history (not like you can), I don't think I've ever started out as a wolf. Had to be converted once (and we cleaned house). So I'm always bitter and jealous of those who start out as a wolf but then squander the opportunity by making mistakes. I'm like, "Grrr! You've wasted this rare opportunity!"

Another defense of Strog.... mimicking the exact same language as Allie. Big sketch points to both Allie and Strog.
I wouldn't read into Day 1 stuff where I'm still ramping up and confused why we're blindly lynching on Day 1. I even talked that way in the sign-ups thread (in other words, before the game started) that I don't like Day 1 lynches out of the blue. Just because snowy opined that I'm probably used to Mayor games doesn't mean it's NAI for me, imo.
 
^ So this is just humor. If you look at my WW history (not like you can), I don't think I've ever started out as a wolf. Had to be converted once (and we cleaned house). So I'm always bitter and jealous of those who start out as a wolf but then squander the opportunity by making mistakes. I'm like, "Grrr! You've wasted this rare opportunity!"


I wouldn't read into Day 1 stuff where I'm still ramping up and confused why we're blindly lynching on Day 1. I even talked that way in the sign-ups thread (in other words, before the game started) that I don't like Day 1 lynches out of the blue. Just because snowy opined that I'm probably used to Mayor games doesn't mean it's NAI for me, imo.
Is this your first time starting out as something new?
 
Didn't say that

My other question was asking how the lynch on you was lazy
Thanks, I think it's kinda lazy because I said I didn't feel that snowy was wolfy, and that I wouldn't vote for her or pickles. I voted SAR instead and then when snowy flipped wolf it's easy enough to look at me and say "she didn't vote between either of the leaders and she didn't think snowy was wolfy at all, kill her". So SAR voted for me, then you, then pickles hopped on immediately after and I did not see any analysis of why from you or pickles with your lynch votes (you did post some after I asked you). That leads me to believe I'm just the easy lynch of the day
 
Strog said:
Yanno, my lynch vote for ziggy was also a typo. HATE when SDN does that!

Unlynch ziggy
Lynch SAR

Forgive me. The fingers do what the fingers do.
This was sketchballs

^ OK, so this exchange from Day 1 shouldn't be sketchballs at all.

1) It's my usual humor.
2) Most importantly, the reason I first voted to lynch ziggy was the Google RNG screenshot. I thought I had stronger wolf feels for SAR, so I changed my vote. I don't regret it to this day, as ziggy flipped village and I still don't know about SAR.

I suppose you just got subbed in, explaining why you're reading the entire thread and responding to Day 1 stuff. Fair enough. 🙂
 
^ OK, so this exchange from Day 1 shouldn't be sketchballs at all.

1) It's my usual humor.
2) Most importantly, the reason I first voted to lynch ziggy was the Google RNG screenshot. I thought I had stronger wolf feels for SAR, so I changed my vote. I don't regret it to this day, as ziggy flipped village and I still don't know about SAR.

I suppose you just got subbed in, explaining why you're reading the entire thread and responding to Day 1 stuff. Fair enough. 🙂

This is kinda like blind lynching then? I thought you don't like that.
 
Strog said:
That Catch-22 feel when you see a lynch bandwagon but don't wanna bandwagon too soon just to be a follower but don't wanna bandwagon too late for fear of coming across wolfy for casting a "safe" lynch vote on somebody who's getting lynched anyways. :scared:

I respekt a lot of the folks casting Snowy votes, so I'll go back and re-read. So I guess Snowy and SAR are on my "feel up" list.
This is so sketchy[/QUOTE

^ Regarding this exchange, you're chronically feeling the opposite of reality, in my opinion. All I did was say I trusted people who were wanting to lynch snowy. Then I said I wanted to look more closely at snowy and SAR. snowy turned out to be a wolf. How does this implicate me? I think it means I'm calibrating pretty well to trying to accurately find wolves. 🙂
 
I suppose you just got subbed in, explaining why you're reading the entire thread and responding to Day 1 stuff. Fair enough. 🙂
Yep, I do this in general, though. Especially after a wolf is lynched, because it makes me re-evaluate their interactions with other people.

I can't get that from lynch trackers -- it comes from bending things around and seeing them in a new light, given new information.

I wouldn't read into Day 1 stuff where I'm still ramping up and confused why we're blindly lynching on Day 1.
Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm not going to just skip D1 😉
 
@PippyPony

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Srs though, Wednesdays are my lab days and then I have an hour commute home plus time to wash off that delightful cadaver smell. Going to go catch up but noticed Pippy pinged me a large number of times so just gonna leave this here for her until I can catch up to figure out why.
 
So, you are saying that me trying to get info on people's affiliation is a wolfy thing to do?
Affiliation no, but role fishing is wolfy.

Yeah sorry, I got a little side-tracked with Pippy. Your "wolf hunting" post analysis has a lot to do with Strog thinking I am a wolf. Is that all you are going off of? A subtle way to throw shade my way, maybe?
Some of his ideas are tin foily, but that doesn't mean that they aren't plausible. What I liked is that there was actual analysis going on, instead of fluff here and fluff there, fluff everywhere.
 
Strog's last game was before MJ started playing if I'm remembering the years correctly - think strog said he last played in 2012?
This is probably true. It's been at least 2-3 years since I played a Lounge game, and even more years since my other games. I don't remember if Mad Jack played at that time.

All I remember was some outsider (maybe LIS?) I didn't even know sniped me for no game-related reason just because I was catching up on posts and quoted something off-topic he didn't like. 🙄
 
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