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Did the PM activity die down just around the time that you posted on the thread that you think he might know more about the game than he should for a village noob?
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By the way: anytime I type a response on the forum my sister says, "Are you Werewolfing? You're typing furiously over there." Apparently I type differently in WW compared to any other time.
I don't like this logic.
I understand what Zuri is getting at, that visc was casting doubt over True's analysis of AM, but I don't think that's what Visc was doing. Like I pointed out before, the natural response to someone saying "oh hey I noticed this thing, and I believe in it strong enough to come on thread and say someone is village/town" is to ask "okay well what was the thing"
If True had provided us with examples and Visc went through and systematically tried to shoot down the examples or discredit True, or something more aggressive than follow up questions, I'd buy into Zuri's theory.
I also questioned True's AM read, but zuri singled out Visc over me. Inconsistency in applying their wolf-hunting logic.
Also
This is not a great look for several reasons:
1. Using a dead villager's reads to push someone weirds me out because its sheeping someone without providing original content.
2. See above for the original reason Zuri had for voting Visc. Now its because WZ had Visc as a wolf read. This kind of fluctuating reasoning reads like a wolf flailing to justify their vote because they don't really have a strong reason to be there in the first place.
Skipped 5 pages. Tell me if I missed something key.
Thank goodness it’s Friday
Thank goodness it’s Friday
I feel that. Happy Friday!Skipped 5 pages. Tell me if I missed something key.
Thank goodness it’s Friday
Wanna know the worst part about this hell week?
I’m backup call for the next week. I CANT EVEN DRUNKEN WW TO MAKE THIS WEEK BETTER
To be clear the reason I found visc suspicious in the first place was not their initial questioning of true, which seemed reasonable, but after true answered the “I’ll let you off for this one bc you’re a noob” struck me as a way to undermine on the basis of true being a noob while casting vis as a more seasoned but gracious player. This was after true had explained their approach and detailed some examples of the threads they looked at while declining to gather quotes. Again not questioning true but the response of “I’m only letting this slide because you’re a noob” That is one reason vis struck me as wolfy. The 2nd reason doesn’t contradict the 1st reason but reinforces it. That being that if someone gets killed by wolves I’m going to assume that at least some of their inklings about wolves were threatening to wolves and so I think it’s fair for the top of dubZ wolf list to be considered top suspects for the wolf thread. The rest of this game is trying to read tone into thousands of forum posts. The only hard data we have on the wolves are the 2 villagers they killed last night, so yes if their hard data supports my initial suspicions I might make a bigger deal on my initial suspicions and double down. I’m honestly fine with yeeting any of the leading suspects from DubZ list (April, Blue, Vis) though my leaning is still vis.
Truenamer
Toothy, Furry Villager
What does "I don't like this logic" mean in context? You aren't really making sense.
You voted to yeet someone without a single word of explanation, and I just asked for more of your thoughts, which I think is pretty reasonable? Who people choose to vote for is one of the only actual things to discuss, everything else kind of boils down to inane quibbling about tone and phrasing.
For the record, this is the vis post that struck me as off, not their initial challenge but their response after true had explained themselves
justafluff
Good skelegg
We like your jokes too much
I think the rest of his post was the answer of not liking the logic no?
Truenamer
Toothy, Furry Villager
Was it a typo, and meant to be "I don't like his logic"? Because that would make a lot more sense
justafluff
Good skelegg
@SportPonies are you still after samac today?
I think it was I don’t like this logic
And then quoted Zuri’s post to give the logic
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I think it was like “I don’t like the following (this) logic:”
Truenamer
Toothy, Furry Villager
Ah, okay, I finally get it. Sorry about that, the way that sentence was following the quote of my post made me misunderstand what was being said.
Also fwiw I don’t like Mel’s logic that me having multiple reasons for a vote somehow makes that vote less reasonable??
Okay I am a hot mess so slowly catching up and think it's more efficient to at least do it somewhat by page. I did skim ahead to at least see D1/N1 results and will also be getting to posts where I was tagged so anyway nobody look at me in all my shame thanks
I'm interested that you brought up puppy at this point because I vaguely had the same feeling but don't remember you bringing it up until this post I'm quoting.
I know, I meant that I could PM you to talk to you more but couldn't do that with April, hence me placing a vote on her instead of you.
I'm interested that you brought up puppy at this point because I vaguely had the same feeling but don't remember you bringing it up until this post I'm quoting.
What about these posts that are largely answering easy game strat questions made you feel better about pshelty?
I just didn't understand why it was necessary or relevant to clarify that point.
Village side of neutral atm
I like this post
I'm not really feeling like that's the case with Blue - she really did seem sus yesterday (though reads more villagey to me now) and it seems reasonable for villagers to pick up on that and yeet there as an accidental misyeet.
I'd like to say that, from what I've seen in the noob game, blue plays jokingly a lot, which I think shouldn't be read too far into (re: vet01 and blue discourse in the NoWW noob game).
As for me, @zuriburi , no one knows who anyone else is, and I find that if a wolf NK'd someone who voted for them D1, that's just paints a big target on their back (I think this was said before too)... it's too reactionary at this point. I'm trying to look into who was interacting the most with genny and wz, and the one that comes to mind is AM with genny (assuming AM is wolf), although it could easily be the wolves framing AM (assuming AM is village). I'm more inclined to believe the latter
Same here, meats also reacting to some posts so p sure they are just catching up.
So in this specific case are you saying blue shouldn't be wolf read for joking, or shouldn't be village read for joking?
I don't know either, man
I like this post if only for showing follow up for questions lol
I am. Excruciatingly slowly because I have the attention span of a fly in a bug zapper, but it's at least going
justafluff
Good skelegg
About the genny kill, I'm more inclined to believe it was a villager who killed her, thinking they are catching a wolf. Genny seemed wolfy to a lot of us.
I feel like if it turns out blue is the opposite of what I say, I'm gonna be turned on lol, since it'll seem like I have inside info. Nonetheless, at this point in the game it seems like you shouldn't read blue's posts as wolfy.
Ah yes the third option. This also seems likely. AM still definitely reading villagey to me since, from what I've heard from WW vets itt, they are always kind of abrasive (I mean this in the nicest way possible @Animal Midwife ).
I am quite literally 12 pages behind but this caught my eye. This is real weird reasoning, especially regarding a player who typically gets more benefit of the doubt than D1 feels since she is difficult to read. Although if this was a night vig kill I can hear AM in the distance shedding a proud tear at someone narrowing the POE instantly on N1 lol
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Were you finding her wolfy because Vis was letting it slide, or the tone that Vis seemed to say it in?
I think it's pretty reasonable and common for noobs to be let off the hook for things early in one of their first non-manatored games.
justafluff
Good skelegg
Also I would like to bring up something. A lot of you have played with each other over and over and have built meta about your wolf vs village personas. But you are trying to apply the same logic to us who only played 1-2 games max before. So, there are some players here talking about me being "on brand" and @bluestoat "not acting like the noob game - being wolfier". I honestly don't even know what my wolf meta would be like - I barely know how I sound like being my village self, cause I'm slowly building on it by playing more games. I did joke a lot on D1 and was a bit cheeky but it was mostly out of excitement to discuss different theories and excitement to be playing again. And I do think that might become more common about me, the more I get to play with you all and the more I get to know you. So, please don't judge us just by how different we were in previous games. We will be different, cause its a different game and we have more experience.
justafluff
Good skelegg
this wasn't my opinion. @Animal Midwife discussed it too this morning.
When it comes down to it we don’t know and probably won’t know until we have more information. We don’t know at this point and i think continuing to talk in circles about it is exactly what wolves would want us to do.
I don’t think NKA is going to get us much further and focusing on the threadstate might be more fruitful.
This is a good point, yet blue in the noob game was essentially like two rounds due to rezzing. Anyways, still a good point that metas aren't solid on us (nor are they reliable in general imo). Yet I'm still inclined to believe my blue read.
Question: what do you mean by "threadstate"?
Villagers are allowed to be wrong - if we had all the answers, we wouldn't be playing the game.
Regardless, that's what I was saying - that I'm not reading Blue's posts wolfy right now. I just said I think it was pretty reasonable for people to read her wolfy yesterday, especially the people who haven't played with her directly before.
Well, every game leads to more experience. Personally, I don't play with meta unless there's an impossible to ignore pattern. For the most part, I only care about what people say in relation to the game they're in.
Paying attention to how people are interacting, who’s sussing who, how that jives with who you’re sussing.
I'm getting a stumbly wolf-trying-to-blend-in vibe from Ivy while I'm catching up
This is interesting
genny pls why do you hate my games?
And you're being nit-picky about weird things
Not your logic. I didn’t like Zuri’s logic re: Visc
I will never yeet someone for being absent, as someone who also frequently disappears for 12 hours. Absenteeism is a dumb reason to vote a player.
is anyone else getting heebie jeebies at a lot of shelter's posts sounding like they've seen more games than they actually have?
These are super wolfy
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Why?
Since when?
This is pretty wishy-washy and I'm not even sure I understand how you're agreeing with Mel here. You think a vet would've killed Dubz, but you don't think a vet killed genny, so you agree with Mel because he said Dubz was probably a NK?
Not really, we've been PMing and she's asked about a few vet metas, and it just seems like she's been paying attention to where other vets comment about metas on the thread
just something to contemplate when we have a Vis/YK/stoat flip
I don't really think they are given it's his first game.
