Brown vs. Yale Med?

[rd31]

Hey all, so my sister got into both and is needing some advice on making a decision. Any input is valuable! (assume that costs are comparable)

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[LeoGer]

Is this a joke? Yale 100 times out of 90.

 

[TheMightySmiter]

Is this a joke? Yale 100 times out of 90.

This x 100000000000000

 

[RedSox10]

Don't be fooled by the fact that they are both "Ivies". Yale is WAY better hands down. Brown is a newer school and and just doesn't have the same resources/prestige/opportunities.

 

[Chrome19]

Don't be fooled by the fact that they are both "Ivies". Yale is WAY better hands down. Brown is a newer school and and just doesn't have the same resources/prestige/opportunities.

I wouldn't say "WAY" better. That's hyperbole to me. IMO both schools will adequately prepare you to be a physician.

 

[bassvp]

I wouldn't say "WAY" better. That's hyperbole to me. IMO both schools will adequately prepare you to be a physician.

But the purpose of the thread wasn't "which of these two schools are accredited".

 

[Chrome19]

But the purpose of the thread wasn't "which of these two schools are accredited".

That wasn't my point either. Clearly, all things being equal, the subject should attend Yale. However what I wanted to refute was the idea that the MD program at Yale is "WAY" better than Brown's. I am not even sure the MD curriculum/program at Yale is even "better" (a vague and personalized statement) than that of Brown. Does Yale have a better reputation? Sure. But will going to Yale make you a better physician than if you went to Brown? I strongly doubt that.

I would attend Yale for the overall reputation and having its name on my CV, not because it's a "better" medical school.

 

[Nymphicus]

You should tell you sister that Yale just dropped in the rankings. Who would want to go there? Eww

 

[TheMightySmiter]

You should tell you sister that Yale just dropped in the rankings. Who would want to go there? Eww

Waitlisted? 😀

 

[BrainBuff]

US NEWS RANKINGS MEDICAL SCHOOLS - RECENTLY RELEASED 2013

Research -

Yale # 7
Brown # 35

Primary Care -

Brown # 24
Yale # 74 (shameful for an ivy, really)

Average for

Brown - 29.5
Yale - 40.5

Brown beats Yale. However, the Yale system rocks....although New Haven really, really sucks..

Congrats to your sister!

 

[mmmcdowe]

US NEWS RANKINGS MEDICAL SCHOOLS - RECENTLY RELEASED 2013

Research -

Yale # 7
Brown # 35

Primary Care -

Brown # 24
Yale # 74 (shameful for an ivy, really)

Average for

Brown - 29.5
Yale - 40.5

Brown beats Yale. However, the Yale system rocks....although New Haven really, really sucks..

Congrats to your sister!

Primary Care rankings are even worse than research rankings

They are both great schools. I liked Yale>Brown, but RI>CT. It depends on your unique situation.

 

[flatearth22]

US NEWS RANKINGS MEDICAL SCHOOLS - RECENTLY RELEASED 2013

Research -

Yale # 7
Brown # 35

Primary Care -

Brown # 24
Yale # 74 (shameful for an ivy, really)

Average for

Brown - 29.5
Yale - 40.5

Brown beats Yale. However, the Yale system rocks....although New Haven really, really sucks..

Congrats to your sister!

not sure if serious...

Primary Care rankings mean jack. When people refer to a top 5, top 25, etc. school they go by the research rankings. Yale is a top 10 school and Brown is a top 40 school.

Looking at the two schools' respective matchlists it is no contest; Yale blows Brown out of the water. Both schools gradated ~100 people last year but looking at the most competitive specialties, Yale beat Brown

5-1 in Derm
5-2 in Plastics
4-2 in Radonc
5-3 in Ophtho
4-1 in Neurosurgery
1-0 in ENT
4-1 in Rads
3-1 in Gas

and the schools tied 4-4 in Ortho

http://brown.edu/academics/medical/about/match

http://medstation.yale.edu/enrollment/www/2011matchspec.pdf

 

[235788]

But the purpose of the thread wasn't "which of these two schools are accredited".

booom! headshot!

 

[235788]

not sure if serious...

Primary Care rankings mean jack. When people refer to a top 5, top 25, etc. school they go by the research rankings. Yale is a top 10 school and Brown is a top 40 school.

Looking at the two schools' respective matchlists it is no contest; Yale blows Brown out of the water. Both schools gradated ~100 people last year but looking at the most competitive specialties, Yale beat Brown

5-1 in Derm
5-2 in Plastics
4-2 in Radonc
5-3 in Ophtho
4-1 in Neurosurgery
1-0 in ENT
4-1 in Rads
3-1 in Gas

and the schools tied 4-4 in Ortho

http://brown.edu/academics/medical/about/match

http://medstation.yale.edu/enrollment/www/2011matchspec.pdf

forgot to link urology and ortho!

 

[flatearth22]

forgot to link urology and ortho!

I said 4-4 in ortho.

Brown did beat Yale 1-0 in Urology but come on who really wants to fondle balls all day long 😛

 

[SNZ]

not sure if serious...

Primary Care rankings mean jack. When people refer to a top 5, top 25, etc. school they go by the research rankings. Yale is a top 10 school and Brown is a top 40 school.

Looking at the two schools' respective matchlists it is no contest; Yale blows Brown out of the water. Both schools gradated ~100 people last year but looking at the most competitive specialties, Yale beat Brown

5-1 in Derm
5-2 in Plastics
4-2 in Radonc
5-3 in Ophtho
4-1 in Neurosurgery
1-0 in ENT
4-1 in Rads
3-1 in Gas

and the schools tied 4-4 in Ortho

http://brown.edu/academics/medical/about/match

http://medstation.yale.edu/enrollment/www/2011matchspec.pdf

As a person deciding between Pitt and Yale, I was wondering about Yale's primary care rankings. What do primary care rankings even really represent? Pitt is top 20 for both but Yale is top 10 and top 100. Should that even matter? If so, how would you compare these two schools?

 

[BSU]

But the purpose of the thread wasn't "which of these two schools are accredited".

 

[235788]

I said 4-4 in ortho.

Brown did beat Yale 1-0 in Urology but come on who really wants to fondle balls all day long 😛

missed your ortho post.

In that case Brown >> yale.

Dude you'd love urology (I love it). Its a hidden treasure...

 

[bassvp]

not sure if serious...

Primary Care rankings mean jack. When people refer to a top 5, top 25, etc. school they go by the research rankings. Yale is a top 10 school and Brown is a top 40 school.

Looking at the two schools' respective matchlists it is no contest; Yale blows Brown out of the water. Both schools gradated ~100 people last year but looking at the most competitive specialties, Yale beat Brown

5-1 in Derm
5-2 in Plastics
4-2 in Radonc
5-3 in Ophtho
4-1 in Neurosurgery
1-0 in ENT
4-1 in Rads
3-1 in Gas

and the schools tied 4-4 in Ortho

http://brown.edu/academics/medical/about/match

http://medstation.yale.edu/enrollment/www/2011matchspec.pdf

This explains their difference in primary care rankings. 🙂

 

[beckerism]

Depends what she's looking for. Got into both Brown/Yale for undergrad. Went to Brown and absolutely have no regrets. 😍 Providence is somewhat small town but I adore it.

Now going to Yale med and didn't apply to Brown. Mainly wanted to try out a new city while I'm still young.

Gotta go with gut feeling and definitely check out both second looks. Ranking doesn't matter as much as happiness. That's my Brown talking. 😀 Let me know if you have any PVD related questions.

Edit: Not originally an east coaster.

 

[mmmcdowe]

As a person deciding between Pitt and Yale, I was wondering about Yale's primary care rankings. What do primary care rankings even really represent? Pitt is top 20 for both but Yale is top 10 and top 100. Should that even matter? If so, how would you compare these two schools?

I haven't checked he methodology for this year, but in the past the rankings for primary care were determined heavily by the number of people that go into primary care at a given school. This is a very poor indicator of the quality of pc related care, and some might argue that if Nything it suggests that students can't match into more competitive specialties (such as flat earths post)

 

[drizzt3117]

I haven't checked he methodology for this year, but in the past the rankings for primary care were determined heavily by the number of people that go into primary care at a given school. This is a very poor indicator of the quality of pc related care, and some might argue that if Nything it suggests that students can't match into more competitive specialties (such as flat earths post)

Harvard matched 43% of their class into "primary care" this past year, University of Washington matched almost 2/3 last year into primary care. It has nothing to do with whether they couldn't have matched into something else, but simply reflects preference.

 

[mmmcdowe]

Harvard matched 43% of their class into "primary care" this past year, University of Washington matched almost 2/3 last year into primary care. It has nothing to do with whether they couldn't have matched into something else, but simply reflects preference.

Those are two outlier examples (try making the same argument with, say, MSU DO school), but I'm not arguing that it is true that people who go into PC can't do "better", I am merely stating that just because a lot of people go into it doesn't make it necessarily better for going into it.