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Just sent in my deposit and I am an offical CCOMer!! I was wondering if you guys know of additional deposit dates? I know some other schools have it so that you have to send in additional deposits throughout the year in order to secure your seat. Thanks and hope to meet most of you in the fall!
 
another $1000 by March 15

Edit: Based on the responses below, this isn't true. I must have confused CCOM with another school. Sorry and thank you for correcting my mistake.
 
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Just sent in my deposit and I am an offical CCOMer!! I was wondering if you guys know of additional deposit dates? I know some other schools have it so that you have to send in additional deposits throughout the year in order to secure your seat. Thanks and hope to meet most of you in the fall!

another $1000 by March 15

Uhhh... Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure that the deposit at CCOM is a one time deal. In my interview they told us there would be a $1000 deposit needed to secure our spot. I had also heard of other schools that snuck in another deposit at a later date so I specifically asked them if there were any other deposits and they told me no, just one.

If I am misinformed on this issue I would really like to know. Anyone else willing to wiegh in??
 
To my knowledge CCOM requires one deposit of $1000 which will be applied toward your first semester tuition.

I just put down my deposit and will likely be attending CCOM in the fall. 😀 I'm looking forward to meeting everyone and those still in the application process I wish you the best of luck!👍
 
Hi CCOMers,

For those of you who have decided to attend, or if there are any current CCOM students here, how difficult do you think it would be to live in Chicago and commute to campus?

The only time I did the drive it was about an hour (ugh) leaving the city at 6:45am.

I have a great living situation in downtown Chicago where I will be able to spend very little on housing. And I really do not want to take out any extra loans to live in Downer's Grove. I realize that this could very well make my life harder, but if I get on the right schedule it could work.

Is anyone else considering living in Chicago (close to 290)/already doing this commute?

Thanks for any input!
 
Hi CCOMers,

For those of you who have decided to attend, or if there are any current CCOM students here, how difficult do you think it would be to live in Chicago and commute to campus?

The only time I did the drive it was about an hour (ugh) leaving the city at 6:45am.

I have a great living situation in downtown Chicago where I will be able to spend very little on housing. And I really do not want to take out any extra loans to live in Downer's Grove. I realize that this could very well make my life harder, but if I get on the right schedule it could work.

Is anyone else considering living in Chicago (close to 290)/already doing this commute?

Thanks for any input!

Along those lines, is there any good public transport from the Downer's Grove area to downtown Chicago?
 
Along those lines, is there any good public transport from the Downer's Grove area to downtown Chicago?

The Metra commuter train runs from the loop (downtown Chicago) to Downer's Grove. I don't know how much it costs though.
 
Along those lines, is there any good public transport from the Downer's Grove area to downtown Chicago?

yes!!! look into the trains. there is a train that runs from downer's grove to union station downtown. I rode it when I was there. You might have to take a cab to the train stop but its pretty cheap. this is the station you'll want to go to. hope this helps!
 
yes!!! look into the trains. there is a train that runs from downer's grove to union station downtown. I rode it when I was there. You might have to take a cab to the train stop but its pretty cheap. this is the station you'll want to go to. hope this helps!

Nice. How long does it take?
 
i also live in the city and would like to commute. maybe some people interested in this would want to set up a carpool.

is there any type of shuttle from the metra station to campus? there don't appear to be any pace buses that go past campus.
 
i also live in the city and would like to commute. maybe some people interested in this would want to set up a carpool.

is there any type of shuttle from the metra station to campus? there don't appear to be any pace buses that go past campus.

I don't think there is a shuttle, I remember people taking cabs to the station after our interview. I could be wrong though.

I would be interested in carpooling if people have the same idea of how long we want to stay on campus to study after class or for extracurriculars, that sort of thing.
 
I think staying closer to the school 10-15 mins would be more advantageous. CCOM has exams every monday/friday so you'll be looking for the library or a good study spot nearly every day of the week. Also, after 8 hour class day i dont know whether I would want to spend time in the chicago traffic to get back home...
 
Hi CCOMers,

For those of you who have decided to attend, or if there are any current CCOM students here, how difficult do you think it would be to live in Chicago and commute to campus?

The only time I did the drive it was about an hour (ugh) leaving the city at 6:45am.

I have a great living situation in downtown Chicago where I will be able to spend very little on housing. And I really do not want to take out any extra loans to live in Downer's Grove. I realize that this could very well make my life harder, but if I get on the right schedule it could work.

Is anyone else considering living in Chicago (close to 290)/already doing this commute?

Thanks for any input!

Hey.. im a first year at ccom. should be studying but i randomly strolled on here. I would say commuting from downtown is doable but def going to add stress to ur life. I know ppl who commute and its a min of 1 hr on a regular day. Throw in some snow or rain and those ppl get to class 1hr and half late. Now add an exam day which class starts at 7:30 and ur looking at getting up around 4:30 to be safe! i dont know anyone who uses trains.. and i imagine that to be a huge pain in the ***** so its a hard choice. Id love to live in the city but im going to save it for 3rd year.
 
I just would like to ask if any current CCOM student can tell me more about your exam schedule. I know you have exams 1-2 times a week. How big are these xams? Are they small quizzes to keep you up to date or are they large (50+ Q's) exams that cover much material? What is the test format, MC, open answer, etc...?

All the exams are big... 50+ almost all multiple choice. Failing one wont kill u but it will put u at risk of failing the class AKA u get kicked out or held back. and yes the cover a huge amount of material. 🙂
 
For any current CCOM students, how do they decide where you go for your 3rd year rotations, is their some sort of a lottery for the different sites, or can you pretty much go to any of their affiliates? Also, do you stay at one location for all your core rotations or do you have to move around?
 
I don't think there is a shuttle, I remember people taking cabs to the station after our interview. I could be wrong though.

I would be interested in carpooling if people have the same idea of how long we want to stay on campus to study after class or for extracurriculars, that sort of thing.


Just to chime in all several of these posts...

I visited CCOM and Chicago again this weekend with my boyfriend to scope out possibilities for living situations. I definitely believe it when current students say it would be very stressful to commute from the city to school. I had an hour + commute from my sisters in Uptown/Lincoln Square to CCOM on my interview day and this last weekend was a solid 30 mins to downtown on a Saturday afternoon. We are not really considering any Northside neighborhoods due to the horrible commutes, but are considering Oak Park, Lombard, Napersville and of course Downers Grove.

The metra from Downers Grove to Union Station (downtown) takes 27 mins if it is an express train, but more like 55 minutes otherwise. I think a one-way ticket is like $4.30 from DG to Union Station, and a monthly pass is $116. Going from downtown to Downers Grove would necessitate getting to Union Station for a 7:20 train to arrive at 8:45 in DG, then somehow going 3 miles to school (10-15 minute bike ride I imagine). For 7:30 am tests however, you would need to leave Union on the 6:32 am train. So if you are living in a Northside neighborhood, you would then have to wake up more than an hour earlier to do the normal commute downtown. Or you would just drive 2-3 hours total each day. But if someone is living in DG and commuting downtown to work (as my boyfriend will be) it is actually not bad at all.

Anyway, I would also be up for joining a carpool of people who live in the city. If I lived in Oak Park I would drive on my own or join a carpool. If a carpool from a northside neighborhood was somehow feasible, I would consider doing that as well.

Also, hello to all my future CCOM 2013ers, I am definitely part of the class....
 
I just paid my deposit today! I am still looking into other schools so that I have more room for comparison, but CCOM is definitely my top choice! Anyhow, assuming I go to CCOM, I plan to live in the Forest Park, Oak Park area. You can get from there to campus without getting on the highway. I have just looked on google maps and such but have never tried to drive that way early in the morning. It's right on the edge of the blue line so it still has access to the city, but it's a lot closer to Midwestern. Does anyone have experience commuting from there? Any words of wisdom?

Also, does CCOM offer any scholarships?

Thanks! Congrats to all who are accepted, and good luck to those of you waiting!
 
I am freaking out, I need to decide on a school by Friday. I noticed that CCOM only allows 4 elective rotations 2 max in same specialty, and the other DO school I'm deciding on only allows 5 and 2 respectively. However, the MD school I'm looking at allows 8 electives and requires 5 in the same field. Why is their this difference. I'm interested in Ortho and am worried I won't be able to match if I can only do 2 audition/electives in that field. Is this a problem or do people usually get what they want regardless of this. Please provide some insight I'm desperate.:scared:
 
Anyone know if Michael Laken (director of admissions) is a phd/do/md/what?
I need to email him regarding my deposit and have no idea how to adress him...
 
I've been complete at CCOM since mid-November. I really hope I hear something soon!
 
Anyone know if Michael Laken (director of admissions) is a phd/do/md/what?
I need to email him regarding my deposit and have no idea how to adress him...

No doctorate . Im not sure what his credentials are, I might say in your letter "to whom it may conern"
 
I am freaking out, I need to decide on a school by Friday. I noticed that CCOM only allows 4 elective rotations 2 max in same specialty, and the other DO school I'm deciding on only allows 5 and 2 respectively. However, the MD school I'm looking at allows 8 electives and requires 5 in the same field. Why is their this difference. I'm interested in Ortho and am worried I won't be able to match if I can only do 2 audition/electives in that field. Is this a problem or do people usually get what they want regardless of this. Please provide some insight I'm desperate.:scared:

There are a total of five elective rotations at CCOM--one required during year III and four required during year IV. That being said, you are technically allowed to have six elective rotations at CCOM, but the 6th can be used as vacation. In addition, there are two surgery selective block rotations--one each during years III and IV. I imagine, although I am not certain, that the maximum of two elective rotations pertains only to the electives, so maybe you could also do ortho selectives?

That is how I understand everything at least...I could be wrong though!
 
My secondary was complete on October 9th and not a word from CCOM. When I called, admissions said a generic line about my application being reviewed at some point. It's just weird to me that some people get an interview after being complete for three weeks and I've been waiting almost three months. I'd rather just get a reject than have to endure more waiting...

...It's my top choice too. Sigh.
 
There are a total of five elective rotations at CCOM--one required during year III and four required during year IV. That being said, you are technically allowed to have six elective rotations at CCOM, but the 6th can be used as vacation. In addition, there are two surgery selective block rotations--one each during years III and IV. I imagine, although I am not certain, that the maximum of two elective rotations pertains only to the electives, so maybe you could also do ortho selectives?

That is how I understand everything at least...I could be wrong though!

I called yesterday and spoke with the Dean's office. Apparently their is no way around the max of two electives in one specialty, and the surgical selective cannot be in the same field as any previous elective. Maybe she was wrong, but she sounded confident. She said they want you to be more well rounded, and see other things, in case you are set on one thing, and then are stuck with it b/c its all you rotated in, and you end up hating it. However, she said students typically have no problem matching what they want with the 2 max in one field, and that everyone is typically happy with this curriculum. The conversation was somewhat comforting, but I'm still skeptical that I won't be able to match ortho, and thats what I'm set on as of right now.
 
You know that is somewhat concerning to me as well. However I've been doing some research and even in a specialty as competitive as plastics most people (attendings and other residents), don't think it wise to do any more than 3 rotations MAX in that specialty. So with that in mind the advice that followed echoed what you heard from the Dean's office to become well rounded. So my guess is that two in one subspecialty would be plenty. After all, if your set on ortho I'm sure that you could get some exposure to that doing rotations in other surgical specialties.

Also for ortho in particular take a glance at the 2007 match list. They had 8 students match into ortho. That is quite a bit for a class of 160 people. So I wouldn't worry about not being able to get it. CCOM seems to provide ample opportunity for people to match where they want to as long as they have the stats.

Congrats and good luck!
 
Hey all,

This is my first post here. I've been reading these posts since last night, and man am I getting nervous now..I'm just starting to recieve supplementals and I have recieved one from CCOM. I remember reading somewhere in this thread about that email "why consider CCOM?" I haven't received it, so I was wondering if someone could forward it to me since I'm working on my supplemental now. I hope i'm not really late cuz some people on here are already discussing their rotations...lol..btw this is a great network, and congrats to the ppl who are already in. Hope to get some help soon..:xf:
 
Hey all,

This is my first post here. I've been reading these posts since last night, and man am I getting nervous now..I'm just starting to recieve supplementals and I have recieved one from CCOM. I remember reading somewhere in this thread about that email "why consider CCOM?" I haven't received it, so I was wondering if someone could forward it to me since I'm working on my supplemental now. I hope i'm not really late cuz some people on here are already discussing their rotations...lol..btw this is a great network, and congrats to the ppl who are already in. Hope to get some help soon..:xf:

Don't get nervous. Just work hard on the essay, send it in quick and show your personality at the interview. I remember reading about how other applicants recieved the "why ccom" email. I never did. I just filled out the secondary (with its essays) and got an interview invite about 3 weeks later. I am not sure why I never got the email, but it didn't affect my chances because I was offered an acceptance. Good luck!
 
Don't get nervous. Just work hard on the essay, send it in quick and show your personality at the interview. I remember reading about how other applicants recieved the "why ccom" email. I never did. I just filled out the secondary (with its essays) and got an interview invite about 3 weeks later. I am not sure why I never got the email, but it didn't affect my chances because I was offered an acceptance. Good luck!


Thanks for you advise...I'm just really confused because there's so much info that i have read on here and some on CCOM web, but i'm not sure what i should include in the essays. Can you give me some guidelines as to what to include in the two essay questions? Also, when did u complete secondary?
 
You know that is somewhat concerning to me as well. However I've been doing some research and even in a specialty as competitive as plastics most people (attendings and other residents), don't think it wise to do any more than 3 rotations MAX in that specialty. So with that in mind the advice that followed echoed what you heard from the Dean's office to become well rounded. So my guess is that two in one subspecialty would be plenty. After all, if your set on ortho I'm sure that you could get some exposure to that doing rotations in other surgical specialties.

Also for ortho in particular take a glance at the 2007 match list. They had 8 students match into ortho. That is quite a bit for a class of 160 people. So I wouldn't worry about not being able to get it. CCOM seems to provide ample opportunity for people to match where they want to as long as they have the stats.

Congrats and good luck!

I've never heard that about the 3 rotation max thing. That actually made me feel a lot better, I hope it is true, not that I don't trust you. I see that they do have a far # of ortho's, but I was just concerned b/c as of right now its my top choice and I want it bad, so hopefully I can make it happen with the allowed electives. Thanks for giving me some peace of mind👍
 
just withdrew from CCOM, was tough to do
hopefully my spot goes to a fellow SDNer
 
I've never heard that about the 3 rotation max thing. That actually made me feel a lot better, I hope it is true, not that I don't trust you. I see that they do have a far # of ortho's, but I was just concerned b/c as of right now its my top choice and I want it bad, so hopefully I can make it happen with the allowed electives. Thanks for giving me some peace of mind👍

Hey no worries! I tried to find the thread I read it in but couldn't. I think it was actually a student who wanted to go into ENT but more of the same... Perhaps if any current students or other people further along the road could weigh in that would put some perspective on things!🙂

Sorry to hear that raja, but best of luck to you and congrats on your IS acceptance!
 
Hi CCOMers,

For those of you who have decided to attend, or if there are any current CCOM students here, how difficult do you think it would be to live in Chicago and commute to campus?

The only time I did the drive it was about an hour (ugh) leaving the city at 6:45am.

I have a great living situation in downtown Chicago where I will be able to spend very little on housing. And I really do not want to take out any extra loans to live in Downer's Grove. I realize that this could very well make my life harder, but if I get on the right schedule it could work.

Is anyone else considering living in Chicago (close to 290)/already doing this commute?

Thanks for any input!


Hello. I am a second year and I commute from Indiana, but that is a different story. I have several friends who live in Chicago and several who live in Oak Park and all have been commuting since first year. They love living where they live. At least one person takes the train from downtown to Downers Grove. He actually leaves his car at the Downers Grove train station so he can then drive to campus. From Oak Park, the drive is not bad usually. You can get there on the 290 or Roosevelt if you want to avoid more traffic.
So, while this may add extra time, commuting for a better living situation is often worth it.
I own my home, so the drive is definitely worth it.
Good luck to everyone and let me know if you have more questions.
 
Hello. I am a second year and I commute from Indiana, but that is a different story. I have several friends who live in Chicago and several who live in Oak Park and all have been commuting since first year. They love living where they live. At least one person takes the train from downtown to Downers Grove. He actually leaves his car at the Downers Grove train station so he can then drive to campus. From Oak Park, the drive is not bad usually. You can get there on the 290 or Roosevelt if you want to avoid more traffic.
So, while this may add extra time, commuting for a better living situation is often worth it.
I own my home, so the drive is definitely worth it.
Good luck to everyone and let me know if you have more questions.

Hearing this excites me, although I still have tons of questions as far as how difficult this makes medical school. I'm trying not to be naive as far as how much time I will actually have to do things in the neighborhood where I live, but I do have a boyfriend who will need to commute downtown and I am the kind of person who just likes to live in the city. I was looking at how long it would take to take a train from the north side down to downtown, then most likely walk between the Ogilvie and Union stations, then take a train out to DG. I hadn't thought of leaving a car at the DG train station, which I am assuming would require buying a monthly spot, but that helps things out a tad.

Anyway, Micah, do you have a sense of how much those who have longer commutes tend to miss/skip lectures? I know you can't miss labs or OMM, but do these people tend to be more of self-learners? I never miss lectures in undergrad, but then again I always really learn it on my own anyway. I think I really just go to lectures to gain that sense of security that I know what's going on and am not missing anything. Maybe if I take classes next semester I will try to see how I do without attending lectures...just to see if I can pull that off.

OK sorry, I sound like a rambling crazy person. I'm just excited to hear that people make longer commutes work....
 
hi, i am new to this forum. i am currently filling out secondary application for ccom. kind of late. I have 31 in mcat, and 3.47 gpa. what did you guys say about "why ccom should accept you?". Another problem, ccom is asking letters from docters and professors in their letter head. I do have a LOR from a MD, but i am wondering if it was written in his letterhead because he asked me to type that up myself. He submitted the LOR to my prehealth advisory committee of my school with the recomendation request form filled for my school. Hope everything is fine.
 
Hearing this excites me, although I still have tons of questions as far as how difficult this makes medical school. I'm trying not to be naive as far as how much time I will actually have to do things in the neighborhood where I live, but I do have a boyfriend who will need to commute downtown and I am the kind of person who just likes to live in the city. I was looking at how long it would take to take a train from the north side down to downtown, then most likely walk between the Ogilvie and Union stations, then take a train out to DG. I hadn't thought of leaving a car at the DG train station, which I am assuming would require buying a monthly spot, but that helps things out a tad.

Anyway, Micah, do you have a sense of how much those who have longer commutes tend to miss/skip lectures? I know you can't miss labs or OMM, but do these people tend to be more of self-learners? I never miss lectures in undergrad, but then again I always really learn it on my own anyway. I think I really just go to lectures to gain that sense of security that I know what's going on and am not missing anything. Maybe if I take classes next semester I will try to see how I do without attending lectures...just to see if I can pull that off.

OK sorry, I sound like a rambling crazy person. I'm just excited to hear that people make longer commutes work....

Hey.. I had the same thoughts before i started. Unfortunately... midwestern likes the students to attend class. And they make sure u do! haha.. there is some form of attendence checking in almost all classes so u cant miss them and all exams are at 730am. And the classes that dont have atttendence have a "random in class assignment" worth a lot of points so if u coicidently miss that day ur screwed. And the classes u can miss are like one hr long at 1pm. Sooo missing them wont get u much. hope that helps 🙂
 
Hey.. I had the same thoughts before i started. Unfortunately... midwestern likes the students to attend class. And they make sure u do! haha.. there is some form of attendence checking in almost all classes so u cant miss them and all exams are at 730am. And the classes that dont have atttendence have a "random in class assignment" worth a lot of points so if u coicidently miss that day ur screwed. And the classes u can miss are like one hr long at 1pm. Sooo missing them wont get u much. hope that helps 🙂

Where are you getting this? I've never heard another CCOM student say this.
 
Hey everyone,

I interviewed in December and called CCOM today and they said they sent out the letters late last week....So, I have a question for everyone:

If I cannot see the "Welcome to CCOM" message when I login to the online portal and check the matriculation agreement....what does this mean????? Does it mean that I did not get accepted? Because they already sent the letters out?

Please someone help me I am freaking out here!!!!

Thanks,

Nick
 
Hey everyone,

I interviewed in December and called CCOM today and they said they sent out the letters late last week....So, I have a question for everyone:

If I cannot see the "Welcome to CCOM" message when I login to the online portal and check the matriculation agreement....what does this mean????? Does it mean that I did not get accepted? Because they already sent the letters out?

Please someone help me I am freaking out here!!!!

Thanks,

Nick

Hmmm, I was accepted to AZCOM before CCOM, so I'm not totally for sure, because I knew I was accepted to CCOM when I clicked the matriculation agreement tab and it said I had been accepted to multiple programs and had a drop down menu to select which one I wanted to complete. That was on a Friday and then I got my official letter the next monday. When I was accepted to AZCOM, I had clicked the mat. agreement tab and it said it was only available to accepted students. Then I did the same thing about two hours later, and the matriculation agreement showed up, so I knew I'd been accepted. Maybe your status is currently being updated. I don't know why else you wouldn't see the welcome CCOM message.
 
Presumably all the others who post do as well. Maybe they've done the math and it pays to not go, even in spite of some in-class assignment? Would you agree?

If your the type who prefers not going to class by all means you can miss a plenty without penalty. Anatomy, physio, histo. But.. as far as coming later in the AM.. the morning classes are generally the ones you cant miss. Biochem is the one with random assignmnets. And pretty much eveeryone attends. You can do the math and no its not worth losing points im pretty sure everyone would agree with me. Keep in mind thats new for our class and in all honesty we choose the what percentage those in class asignments would be and we made them worth a lot. So no im not saying you must attend all classes. but if u miss a few, consider it an extended lunch.
 
If your the type who prefers not going to class by all means you can miss a plenty without penalty. Anatomy, physio, histo. But.. as far as coming later in the AM.. the morning classes are generally the ones you cant miss. Biochem is the one with random assignmnets. And pretty much eveeryone attends. You can do the math and no its not worth losing points im pretty sure everyone would agree with me. Keep in mind thats new for our class and in all honesty we choose the what percentage those in class asignments would be and we made them worth a lot. So no im not saying you must attend all classes. but if u miss a few, consider it an extended lunch.

Meh. Whatever. Two years of my life. It'll be hell no matter what.
 
I just got an interview invite today from CCOM. (I've been complete since about October 20th.) I went on the scheduling website, and the only day available was Tuesday, the 3rd of February. I've been accepted further up my list, and withdrew my application today. Whoever gets that interview slot, I wish you well!

Also for ortho in particular take a glance at the 2007 match list. They had 8 students match into ortho. That is quite a bit for a class of 160 people. So I wouldn't worry about not being able to get it. CCOM seems to provide ample opportunity for people to match where they want to as long as they have the stats.

I read through a little of the thread and hit this... I wish I could link to Midwestern University's residency page, but can't, so go to the CCOM section of their website and select "postdoctoral education" on the left hand side. Midwestern has a bunch of their own residency programs, including Ortho, general vascular surgery, invasive cardiology, and neurosurgery! I'd guess CCOM and AZCOM graduates have a pretty good shot at these, so specialization is definitely an option to you if you go to either place.

Anyway, best of luck to everyone!
 
Hey everyone,

I just wanted to update everyone. I interviewed in December like I said and this morning I checked and I can access the matriculation agreement. So, I got it!!!!!! I am so excited!

Anyway, so if you interviewed in December and cannot wait to get the letter, check the online portal and see what it says.

Good luck to everyone and hopefully I will meet some of you guys next year!

Thanks,

Nick
 
Just got my secondary application, I am trying to fill it out as quick as I can so hopefully it won't be too late! I read earlier that some people got an email about "Why CCOM?" I was wondering if that had any helpful information to complete the secondary essays and if so could someone PM it to me? Thanks!
 
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