Class of 2022...how you doin'?

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battie said:
(30 mile 1-way drive through the metro area not great when you have a baby I've realized).

I have no idea what my hospital is doing to try to mitigate things. Whatever it is, really isn't working since we have been essentially hemorrhaging support staff and doctors. It's sad cause the hospital and staff are overall relatively great.
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That's alot of loss, wow.
Yes 30 miles up there 1 way is crazy! Especially in any sort of traffic. I hated driving through there when we moved back and it was a sunday afternoon everything was still very busy with traffic. Good luck finding your ideal job closer to home! Itll be nice not having as long of a commute.

I found out like the week I was moving back that the other associate at the practice was going to be leaving so that was fun, her last day is the end of this month. Oh and she went on a 2 week vacation basically the week after I started so I was basically flying solo after 4 days. My poor boss is doing everything in his capabilities to keep me happy because he cant hold the fort on his own since he is committed to many other things. Thankfully we have some good support staff in place but looking for a few more people still. Desperately trying to find 1-2 more associates but I'm not holding my breath in this market and given our location and all the things we cant compete with against corporate and larger city based jobs. I'll be at this job for at least 2 years per my sign on bonus contingency, but the police is paying for hubbs to go to school this fall for the state certification with a service requirement pay back so I imagine we will be here for quite some time unless stuff hits the fan so we'll see🙃
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Ooof, that shortage reminder makes me glad I chose the job I did. I interviewed at 3 places in the area and chose a longer commute because, amongst other reasons, the practice had a great working atmosphere and a high staff retention rate. I still have a little over a month before starting, too, and they’re going to start me off slow since I’m a new grad.

Hope we all manage to tread water as new grads without drowning. Because man oh man this is a tough time to enter the field.
 
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This next week is my last week on ONs (for this block at least) and I'm sad/happy about it. I've loved the amount of on my feet learning I've had to do and having to make decisions on my own. But also... I'm ready for a break and some senior guidance!
How have everyone's jobs been so far??!
 
For the amount of times I’ve heard people say they’ve never diagnosed an intussusception I’ve had a hell of a lot of them since graduating vet school…

In other delightful news, I am on ER currently and I left on time. It was a 10 hour day. On ER.

ETA: I’m legit stoked at leaving ER on time, 10 hour days are unicorns. No sarcasm there.
 
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TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo said:
For the amount of times I’ve heard people say they’ve never diagnosed an intussusception I’ve had a hell of a lot of them since graduating vet school…

In other delightful news, I am on ER currently and I left on time. It was a 10 hour day. On ER.
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Eyyyy me too! I cut three in two months this winter, all necrotic as hell in the inside and requiring gnarly r&as. They definitely follow me.
 
Trilt said:
Eyyyy me too! I cut three in two months this winter, all necrotic as hell in the inside and requiring gnarly r&as. They definitely follow me.
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I’ve euthanized all of mine. Pretty sure both the last two were perfed and septic.

We had one recently (not my case) that when they got into surgery had multiple. They ended up having to take out 64cm of small intestine.
 
Aight, so I'm trying to make sure I'm not throwing my money away since I've been trying to figure out my finances recently.

Which insurance options are a MUST HAVE for starting in the "real world" as a small animal GP? I know disability and professional liability are must-dos, but am unsure which supplier is best. TVPS is the one mentioned most but I got really pushy, "you need to buy this" vibes from them.
 
jaboo said:
TVPS is the one mentioned most but I got really pushy, "you need to buy this" vibes from them.
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I only got mine through TVPS because they did not require any medical underwriting if you bought it before graduation iirc. I have a trash heap for a back so I didn’t want to risk that being excluded at all. My actual plan with them is through Principal.
 
I have medical(Obv), long term disability NOT through work (iirc I’ve seen that if it’s through work you can lose it if you quit/are fired and they could technically fire you if you weren’t able to come back to work due to a long term disability), short term paid by work, malpractice through the work umbrella company (with license defense)
 
jaboo said:
Aight, so I'm trying to make sure I'm not throwing my money away since I've been trying to figure out my finances recently.

Which insurance options are a MUST HAVE for starting in the "real world" as a small animal GP? I know disability and professional liability are must-dos, but am unsure which supplier is best. TVPS is the one mentioned most but I got really pushy, "you need to buy this" vibes from them.
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I did not like tvps. I got separate plit even though my work has it. It's just so cheap
 
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SkiOtter said:
I was looking at the premiums and is it REALLY only like $150 per year for the lowest amt????? That just seems so low it’s surprising 😂
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Yeah I paid 240ish for the highest and license defense so now I don't feel like I have to worry if someone off -hand asks me a q cuz my work plit ONLY covers clients of that practice
 
SkiOtter said:
I was looking at the premiums and is it REALLY only like $150 per year for the lowest amt????? That just seems so low it’s surprising
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If you’re looking at them right now I know that AVMA PLIT pro-rates the annual premium, so in reality when it renews it will be more than what you pay now, just keep that in mind!
 
brgdo1994 said:
If you’re looking at them right now I know that AVMA PLIT pro-rates the annual premium, so in reality when it renews it will be more than what you pay now, just keep that in mind!
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I wasn’t logged in but I believe further down the page it did talk about prorated amounts that were less than what I was initially seeing. Thank you though!!!! Hopefully the number I was seeing is actually the yearly premium
 
There was a fun poll running around the ER yesterday about the scariest resident and scariest faculty (everyone is generally very nice but there is always some people are intimidating at first). I asked today who the scariest intern is for the students and the resident's response was "To be honest, Fern, no one is ever scared of interns."

I asked a student today and the response was exactly that. We don't have the status for students to be scared of us lol.

As a student I was definitely nervous of some interns so that is hilarious.
 
TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo said:
There was a fun poll running around the ER yesterday about the scariest resident and scariest faculty (everyone is generally very nice but there is always some people are intimidating at first). I asked today who the scariest intern is for the students and the resident's response was "To be honest, Fern, no one is ever scared of interns."

I asked a student today and the response was exactly that. We don't have the status for students to be scared of us lol.

As a student I was definitely nervous of some interns so that is hilarious.
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I was nervous of interns when I started clinics because I was a third year student and they were at least halfway through internship already. On the other hand, I was never intimidated by the interns who started when I was a fourth year.
 
TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo said:
There was a fun poll running around the ER yesterday about the scariest resident and scariest faculty (everyone is generally very nice but there is always some people are intimidating at first). I asked today who the scariest intern is for the students and the resident's response was "To be honest, Fern, no one is ever scared of interns."

I asked a student today and the response was exactly that. We don't have the status for students to be scared of us lol.

As a student I was definitely nervous of some interns so that is hilarious.
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Me. I am the scariest resident :laugh:

eta: I forgot you moved schools lol. Still tho I'm scary
 
awesomenessity said:
Me. I am the scariest resident :laugh:

eta: I forgot you moved schools lol. Still tho I'm scary
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I have been told that I am not the scariest resident but I am the kindest resident to the interns. It’s definitely not the badass ECC resident vibe I dreamed for but I’ll take it 😅
 
cdo96 said:
I have been told that I am not the scariest resident but I am the kindest resident to the interns. It’s definitely not the badass ECC resident vibe I dreamed for but I’ll take it 😅
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There’s nothing “badass” about being a scary a-hole. Trust me: your students respect you far more than the resident who makes their lives hell.
 
That's awesome @MOOSEygoosey I am forever thankful for you ECC peeps that I can send my critical scary cases to if the people will drive 3hrs. Critical cases are not my happy place.

Overall life is good in the middle of no where. For those of you that don't know, when I accepted the position I expected to have another vet practicing with me 3/4 days of the week. Well about a month before starting I found out that person was going to be leaving ~1mo after starting so I ended up solo really only a couple days after starting because said associate went on vacation for 2 weeks. Boss had some serious medical issues come up so was also not around as much as originally planned. I always expected I'd be solo, just not necessarily solo quite so quickly. However, my boss is pretty great about being available by phone as much as possible and mentoring as much as he can with his limited physical abilites. There have definately been wins and losses. Overall though I love my team and think I may have very well found my forever practice, I guess time will tell. I work 4-4.5 days a week. I'm on call every other week but only until like 8pm so I can still sleep and relax. We hired a new vet who starts end of next month which is super exciting and he is going to be taking all the equine thank goodness😍

I've also acquired two new puppers. One of which was the clinic reject so to say. He was going to be euthanized for hair loss (he's like 6mo old). So my boss said hey why don't you just surrender him instead. One bravecto later he has hair back and after about a month of living in the clinic he came to live with me permanently because him and the dog we tried from the shelter bonded like two peas in a pod. So now they go to work with me everyday otherwise they will destroy my house while my old lady gets to stay home in peace.

Best thing this week has been watching my clients reaction to my black eye that my mal/shepx gave me because she was so excited to go home.😆
 
When you become exceptionally attached to your long-term inpatient despite the fact that is has a moderately high likelihood of having badness hiding in there.
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He's just such a cool cat. Everyone has fallen for his charms.
 
TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo said:
When you become exceptionally attached to your long-term inpatient despite the fact that is has a moderately high likelihood of having badness hiding in there.
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He's just such a cool cat. Everyone has fallen for his charms.
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Annndddddd he's going home tomorrow! He's doing great. Still don't know for sure that there isn't cancer hiding in there but it is a fantastic win. 🙂
 
Rotating internship over, minus catching up on about 100 records.

So thankful it's finally done. I faceplanted my way to the finish and have been in a state of basically continual mental crisis for the last month. Now to finish records, leave this place in the past, heal, and hope that my residency is a completely different work environment or I will probably be out of the profession within a year.

(Already doing better, today is the first day in a while I didn't wake up crying and I was able to look at the EMR outstanding records without hyperventilating)
 
Rescuing from page 5😱
Still at my same first job with no plans to leave. Probs going to buy in. Solo doing it again has been fun. Interviewed a 2024 grad who seemed lovely but has a few offers so we will see.

Otherwise hoping to do NYC and Honduras Julyish, Japan in Sept. Then MAYBE back to Europe for the Christmas markets in December. Lots TBD. Excited for summer to hit the ponds again on my SUP with my pup.

Hope everyone else is doing well!
 
Still at my first job; I got extremely lucky landing a practice with the exotics load I wanted with a really good culture fit. There's been some tension from corporate purchase right around when I signed on, mostly relating to staffing levels/work life balance causing me to burn out a bit. We're trying a 3 day schedule for me to balance my mental health and I like it so far!
If it weren't for corporate nonsense I definitely want to stay here long-term. At least I have support for finding a balance that works for me <3 We'll see where that's at in a year I guess
 
SnowJ said:
There's been some tension from corporate purchase right around when I signed on, mostly relating to staffing levels/work life balance causing me to burn out a bit. We're trying a 3 day schedule for me to balance my mental health and I like it so far!
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We're having some corporate issues with staffing costs and low income recently and it's driving management up a wall. They're having a coming to Jesus meeting next week about it cause the support staff will get the brunt of it.

I *love* three day work weeks 🤩 I'm never going back. I'm at 13 shifts/month, so one week per month is 4 days. But amazing otherwise.
 
battie said:
We're having some corporate issues with staffing costs and low income recently and it's driving management up a wall. They're having a coming to Jesus meeting next week about it cause the support staff will get the brunt of it.

I *love* three day work weeks 🤩 I'm never going back. I'm at 13 shifts/month, so one week per month is 4 days. But amazing otherwise.
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I gave them a come-to-Jesus moment myself in October when I let them know that their doctors are burning out so fast they might have to replace all of us if things don't shape up. The staff had expressed similar sentiments at the time. NGL, watching my regional director scramble for a response was pretty funny.
I'm definitely feeling better with 3 day work weeks <3 Of course the past 3 weeks have been stupid so it's not a perfect image of what it'll be like long-term, but I still think I'll want to keep this schedule
 
SnowJ said:
I gave them a come-to-Jesus moment myself in October when I let them know that their doctors are burning out so fast they might have to replace all of us if things don't shape up. The staff had expressed similar sentiments at the time. NGL, watching my regional director scramble for a response was pretty funny.
I'm definitely feeling better with 3 day work weeks <3 Of course the past 3 weeks have been stupid so it's not a perfect image of what it'll be like long-term, but I still think I'll want to keep this schedule
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If it was logistically feasible, I would consider two 16 hour days 🤣😅 But that's a little ridiculous.....
 
Life is cruising along for me as well (including remembering my SDN password after about 6mo).

Finishing up year 1 of residency and enjoying it a lot and happy. I’m very lucky to have ended up at the residency program that I did, it is a very good fit for me. Emotionally fully recovered from the hell that was the end of internship, although it took a number of months to do so.

Traveling to a conference this weekend and catching up with a few SDNers while I’m there so that will be fun. 🙂
 
7 year badge, well crap lol
In 2nd year of residency, exhausted and pretty burnt out but also in the most amazing relationship and found friends outside of work who I spend a good deal of time with. Miss my core friends from vet school but got to see them recently and it was just such an amazing boost!
Really scared for boards but still pushing
Hope everyone is doing well! 😊
 
MOOSEygoosey said:
7 year badge, well crap lol
In 2nd year of residency, exhausted and pretty burnt out but also in the most amazing relationship and found friends outside of work who I spend a good deal of time with. Miss my core friends from vet school but got to see them recently and it was just such an amazing boost!
Really scared for boards but still pushing
Hope everyone is doing well! 😊
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I was absolutely the most burnt out second year. It gets better at least.

You’re in ECC right? Boards are spooky af (like why are they this way) but I’m trying to be optimistic and hopeful. Cause at the very least you can still work as a badass criticalist without the letters.
 
cdo96 said:
I was absolutely the most burnt out second year. It gets better at least.

You’re in ECC right? Boards are spooky af (like why are they this way) but I’m trying to be optimistic and hopeful. Cause at the very least you can still work as a badass criticalist without the letters.
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Yes in ECC! Terrified about getting a project done and somehow passing boards all while being a full time ER doctor also I think I should be eating and sleeping in there somewhere hahahaha
And criticalists are definitely in high demand now so I'm hoping I stay lucky!!
 
MOOSEygoosey said:
Yes in ECC! Terrified about getting a project done and somehow passing boards all while being a full time ER doctor also I think I should be eating and sleeping in there somewhere hahahaha
And criticalists are definitely in high demand now so I'm hoping I stay lucky!!
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at the very least, remember that acvecc accepts case reports as well. I know this deeply because my prospective study that I was in the middle of writing crumbled at the beginning of the second year when 3 other journals published the same study. So I have a published case report now and acvecc counts it (but it hurts for sure).

and yeah I don’t have any other sage wisdom how to eat and sleep while being a double time doctor (because let’s be real, we’re working the hours of 2 different er doctors). I recently started getting Factor delivered to my house so I can actually eat healthy food/vegetables and not have to cook. I’ve enjoyed it
 
cdo96 said:
at the very least, remember that acvecc accepts case reports as well. I know this deeply because my prospective study that I was in the middle of writing crumbled at the beginning of the second year when 3 other journals published the same study. So I have a published case report now and acvecc counts it (but it hurts for sure).

and yeah I don’t have any other sage wisdom how to eat and sleep while being a double time doctor (because let’s be real, we’re working the hours of 2 different er doctors). I recently started getting Factor delivered to my house so I can actually eat healthy food/vegetables and not have to cook. I’ve enjoyed it
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Food is definitely the thing that falls by the wayside! I don't even want to think how much I've spent on ordering food lol
That's so damn accurate that we are double time doctors!!
Just gotta find a case report to publish lol
Also cannot say how grateful I am that I started an anti-depressant this year
 
Reviving from the depths of the pages.

I'm still at my same practice I started at with no current intentions of leaving. I'll pry die there tbh unless something major happens.

Paid off all my student loans and had our first baby.

Currently on week 2 of maternity leave and keep contemplating going back a little before the full 3 months-like do sx one day a week for half a day. At the same time I definitely needed the break from clients and just the work in general- I was feeling a little burnt out...so trying to discipline myself and stay away😅

Hoping the only going back 3 days a week will help with the burn out when I do go back
 
I'm down for the annual updates from the 2022s still bopping around the forums. Can't believe we've been out for 3 years already.

I'm still cruising along, finishing up year 2 of residency. The idea of being a senior resident in a couple months is moderately terrifying, but I am still very happy and enjoying my hospital and learning opportunities. Looking forward for all the first year residents and new interns to start; I love when the newbies roll in.

I got dragged into a few board complaints this year so I'm still trying to get the last of those figured out/dismissed. It was a pretty big confidence hit at the time, but I have since accepted that with how litigious this region is it was going to happen eventually and these cases were more situational than against me. We also just had our most recent hospital-wide reviews, and mine was overwhelmingly positive. People wrote the kindest things, to the point that I had a touch of dust in my eyes haha. One of my biggest goals has always been to be a team member that people enjoy working with and feel supported by, so those words meant a lot.

I've started interviewing for post-residency jobs since I decided that even though I adore my hospital, I will be moving on after residency finishes. Absolutely in love with a hospital I visited last week, but I want to wait until November before putting a pen to paper so holding out contract negotiations for now. Really hoping they don't sign someone else in the meantime.
 
Oh, my most recent stress is that my stupid study/paper from internship got rejected so now while I update/resubmit that I need to write a case report as back up. I hated every second of paper writing and I am truly dreading needing to do it again and scared I won't get my publication.
 
I’m at my second job and have been for a little over 2 years. Still liking the people I work with currently but we are often short staffed because of corporate bull**** not allowing us to hire another assistant to replace the one who left in December and likely are about to lose another assistant this summer (both of which were some of my favorite coworkers) 🥲🥲🥲🥲
 
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