Fire Emblem: Three HoWWses Game Thread

[zuriburi]

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I said a pack that isn't centered on the tinfoil. Tell me why you're suspecting every one of these people without referencing the tinfoil. Do you think they're compatible with each other?

I think at the very least you and April are compatible with each other and your pokes at each other early on would work as cover.

 

[WildZoo]

I implemented a post restriction on y'all and you still hit page 16, oof.

If you want quiet games, try modding mountainous with like...9 players 😉

 

[Animal Midwife]

I think at the very least you and April are compatible with each other and your pokes at each other early on would work as cover.

That's two. I said everyone.

 

[genny]

Wow this is so early

i forget, does this mean he is a wolf? or no?

 

[SportPonies]

That's a consequence of a 24 player game tbhtbh

It's actually running slower than average even.

Hey, I'm not complaining. I'm not the one playing 😉
I was just trying to keep this game more manageable for the nooblets who aren't yet used to the post capacity we usually have.

 

[justafluff]

weee ok 1 h before close. Well sorry PSV, your arguments sound hollow to me.

yeet psv

 

[WildZoo]

i forget, does this mean he is a wolf? or no?

The earlier he votes, the wolfier it is


For legal purposes, this is a joke

 

[Wondalfy]

Alright I’ll deliver my pack lists for Amw’s deadline…

I’m not sure if this makes sense as an approach but I’m sorting these into general rationales for my thinking behind each, not necessarily that they would be 100%compatible with each other…

My Faction Theory pack: AMW, April, Chic, potentialsheltervet

My quiet noob pack: captnemo, wondalfy, hw, veg

My Helpful Pocketing Veteran pack: wisp, santygrass, Nate, visc,

All these are ranked most to least suss for me within their individual packs. Feeling generally pretty good about fluff, wildzoo, genny, and most of the people toward the bottom of my second 2 pack theories though including them in case my first theory blows up in my face.

Kinda flabbergasted that I'm in the quiet category but alright 💀

 

[Animal Midwife]

weee ok 1 h before close. Well sorry PSV, your arguments sound hollow to me.

yeet psv

How did you make me hate this post too?

 

[Aprilthearab]

I think at the very least you and April are compatible with each other and your pokes at each other early on would work as cover.

Lol tbh I wonder if a mod has ever randed AM and me in a pack together and gone "Nope. Rerand"

 

[justafluff]

How did you make me hate this post too?

I thought you just hated all my posts.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I thought you just hated all my posts.

No. Just the wolfy ones.

 

[WildZoo]

Can I get some articulation on the PSV yeet that isn't NAI stuff? Because if it's the quietness/lack of engagement thing I thought I read about, I don't think that holds water if you've seen her be scum.

 

[Viscernable]

I think the approach of it just dont fit as villagey tbh. And like, their subsequent posting even if it had the genny mark of being little/fluffy , it had nothing to maybe sway me or even doubt it.

Also other thing I'm taking into account one of the last games I think? I've also saw some wolfy perspective/approach on a V!genny and there was people who correctly saw genny as villa there. Here It feels the opposite case so even if its early to maybe make that comparison is something that gives me more confidence on genny just being a hit here

What feels different about this case?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

How did you make me hate this post too?

Because it's weird

 

[justafluff]

How did you make me hate this post too?

But really, I've been trying to give her a way to explain what her problem is with me but "its wolfy cause its fishy" just doesn't do it.

 

[zuriburi]

Can you walk me through the AM/chic pairing?

• Am opens with a random unexplained chic yeet but doesn’t ever really press/chic only gently protests, later insists the vote isn’t random
• chic makes an odd case about factions not equaling flavor
• animal midwife keeps calling anything I say tinfoil, lies, or fishing swaying several less engaged folks to vote for me
• amw hops on the me train never planning to keep her vote on chic

but again the grouping is based off of the logic more than the relationship so the first group is a handful of people that seem most sus if I’m looking for people who fit my initial theory, the second list is if I’m imagining a wolf pack that has a lot of ghostly noobs, the third list is wondering If at least one helpful veteran is just very good at playing the part of helpful veteran

 

[WildZoo]

No, there I was an alien, and here I’m village. So something else: when I’m village and don’t care whether I die before endgame.

I'm wondering what other occasions you are referring to though, since you said "every time"

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Can I get some articulation on the PSV yeet that isn't NAI stuff? Because if it's the quietness/lack of engagement thing I thought I read about, I don't think that holds water if you've seen her be scum.

PSV makes joke --> PSV wolf!!!
PSV questions Santy --> PSV wolf!!!
PSV questions Fluff --> PSV wolf!!!

 

[Animal Midwife]

But really, I've been trying to give her a way to explain what her problem is with me but "its wolfy cause its fishy" just doesn't do it.

That's kinda OMGUSy tho

 

[Aprilthearab]

weee ok 1 h before close. Well sorry PSV, your arguments sound hollow to me.

yeet psv

Hmm this post sounds hollow and potentially retaliatory to me

Yeet fluff

 

[zuriburi]

Kinda flabbergasted that I'm in the quiet category but alright 💀

Lol fair enough more in the noob category than quiet. You’re really only there cuz i got swayed by Santi’s argument that your rationale could be coming from someone who already knows I’m not a wolf

 

[potentialsheltervet]

But really, I've been trying to give her a way to explain what her problem is with me but "its wolfy cause its fishy" just doesn't do it.

It's fishy as in fishing, and it isn't the only thing I brought up either.r

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Either.r
When the either is so strong it requires an additional letter

 

[Viscernable]

This is making me go hmm
Not because you're voting me, but because the post at the top makes it clear that you haven't received as much info as someone else. But when I haven't received as much info as someone else, that makes me wolfy, apparently

I’m not sure I believe there are villagers without a faction. So if you’re claiming no faction, that makes me think you’re a wolf who didn’t realize just how factional this game would be and defaulted to the usual “am just normal villager” claim (I doubt that now since people have pointed out wolves have probably been given cover factions/otherwise gotten a heads-up to avoid villager code-y stuff) or that you’re in an exclusive faction, you didn’t realize other factions were much more benign and everyone (my assumption, but I strongly believe at least the great majority are), and so your approach was to deny faction membership

 

[justafluff]

PSV makes joke --> PSV wolf!!!
PSV questions Santy --> PSV wolf!!!
PSV questions Fluff --> PSV wolf!!!

Your questions don't feel genuine. It feels like you decided to vote for me, and once I started protesting it, you started giving me one-liners about how I've been fishing or repeating stuff about my wincon, which I haven't. And your whole case against me is that me replying to vis about it is not helpful. Also, how does it track that Zenge, who you think is scummy, votes for me, and then you follow his vote?

 

[Wiisp]

Not really liking Nate's vote, but doubt that is a good train to start at this time.
/shrug

I'd say there is a decent change that Zuri flips town off just the game state, meh

Tried to dip in, but my other town game ended and I was hanging out in post game, sorrynotsorry

Still have about an 45 mins left of work

 

[justafluff]

It's fishy as in fishing, and it isn't the only thing I brought up either.r

So Im fishing, and not you who asked me earlier "how do you know who you re allied with"

 

[Aprilthearab]

I’m not sure I believe there are villagers without a faction. So if you’re claiming no faction, that makes me think you’re a wolf who didn’t realize just how factional this game would be and defaulted to the usual “am just normal villager” claim (I doubt that now since people have pointed out wolves have probably been given cover factions/otherwise gotten a heads-up to avoid villager code-y stuff) or that you’re in an exclusive faction, you didn’t realize other factions were much more benign and everyone (my assumption, but I strongly believe at least the great majority are), and so your approach was to deny faction membership

I never claimed no faction, to be clear, all I said was that I didn't understand the complexity of factions in this game at the time it started being discussed. I can elaborate if it ever gets to the point that I'm on the chopping block but I'd rather not.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Your questions don't feel genuine. It feels like you decided to vote for me, and once I started protesting it, you started giving me one-liners about how I've been fishing or repeating stuff about my wincon, which I haven't. And your whole case against me is that me replying to vis about it is not helpful. Also, how does it track that Zenge, who you think is scummy, votes for me, and then you follow his vote?

I said Zenge is sketchy. But I agree with his logic voting for you, and if you're a hit then he clears himself

 

[zuriburi]

So much for "no one needs to out information about their faction to prove me wrong".

I had said no one needs to out their faction to agree or disagree. Like I’m really fine with people disagreeing and have mostly accepted most rationales for disagreeing. Also this disingenuously crops out my next sentence: “ I think the whole conversation feels primarily constrained by people being afraid to cop to any aspect of their role which makes sense.”

like I really get that people don’t want to say anything about their roles and that’s fine with me and I haven’t asked anyone to say their roles.. im just hoping people can read the argument and decide whether or not they agree with it without labeling it tinfoil or fishing

 

[WildZoo]

you’re in an exclusive faction, you didn’t realize other factions were much more benign and everyone (my assumption, but I strongly believe at least the great majority are), and so your approach was to deny faction membership

Ooooo
Hmm

 

[Santygrass]

Can I get some articulation on the PSV yeet that isn't NAI stuff? Because if it's the quietness/lack of engagement thing I thought I read about, I don't think that holds water if you've seen her be scum.

Its not so much the engagement. The reads felt forced / surface level as to *try* to appear engaged.

Didnt like how she presented some reads as to simply shade (with special bias on the read they made on me wowee. Like , presentimg it as bad but not actually stating it just striked me as wolfy. And the arguments done and ommitment of stuff that I've done just irks me greatly)

What feels different about this case?

I think I said it in that post?

Like, moreso the gamestate being different / lack of someone seeing genny as town and being the opposite here. Thats the main difference.

 

[WildZoo]

I had said no one needs to out their faction to agree or disagree. Like I’m really fine with people disagreeing and have mostly accepted most rationales for disagreeing. Also this disingenuously crops out my next sentence: “ I think the whole conversation feels primarily constrained by people being afraid to cop to any aspect of their role which makes sense.”

like I really get that people don’t want to say anything about their roles and that’s fine with me and I haven’t asked anyone to say their roles.. im just hoping people can read the argument and decide whether or not they agree with it without labeling it tinfoil or fishing

The problem is your refusal to accept any level of subtlety throughout this whole thing. Like you say this and then make it clear that nothing less than multiple people outting details about their role PMs would satisfy you that your theory is wrong.

It is tinfoil. That is what it is. Making assumptions about the entire game design based on your own role PM, coming up with a theory based on little evidence, is the very definition of tinfoil. So it will be called such.

Anyway that's the last I'll say on any of this argument, because I don't find it particularly helpful for finding wolves.

 

[Zenge142]

Ooooo
Hmm

While you’re “ooooo hmming” I’m curious what your thoughts are on Nate’s vote for April.

 

[Santygrass]

PSV makes joke --> PSV wolf!!!
PSV questions Santy --> PSV wolf!!!
PSV questions Fluff --> PSV wolf!!!

So.... Did you even question me something? I think what you did to me was more simply shade / throwing stuff at the wall which I took issue with because it felt like a not genuine read on me / purposefully not saying/stating things to just fit a shading read there

 

[zuriburi]

I never claimed no faction, to be clear, all I said was that I didn't understand the complexity of factions in this game at the time it started being discussed. I can elaborate if it ever gets to the point that I'm on the chopping block but I'd rather not.

Ummm

I read my role multiple times, am village, and still did not know about the complexity of factions until other people started talking about it. So that's part of the reason I know your assumption is wrong and is likely to get dangerous for village

ok

unyeet @potentialsheltervet
yeet @Aprilthearab

 

[WildZoo]

While you’re “ooooo hmming” I’m curious what your thoughts are on Nate’s vote for April.

I didn't like Nate's post with his groupings much in general at the time that I read it, and I found the move to April a little bit awkward

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I didn't like Nate's post with his groupings much in general at the time that I read it, and I found the move to April a little bit awkward

Don't shade the Ice

 

[Aprilthearab]

Ummm



ok

unyeet @potentialsheltervet
yeet @Aprilthearab

Sir I literally used the exact same phrase in both posts

 

[potentialsheltervet]

So.... Did you even question me something? I think what you did to me was more simply shade / throwing stuff at the wall which I took issue with because it felt like a not genuine read on me / purposefully not saying/stating things to just fit a shading read there

I'm questioning your aff, yeah.

 

[WildZoo]

Don't shade the Ice

Why not?

 

[alleycat03]

Day 1: What Even Is A Vote Tally?

Santy ()
AM ()
chic ()
Nate ()
Clem ()
PSV (3) - SOV, Wondalfy, Santy
SOV ()
Wiisp (1) - alleycat, Nate
genny (4) - DubZ, Clem, alley, PlumPoppy
zuri (6) - SAR, Veggie, AM, genny, miranda920, CaptNemo
Veggie (2) - wiisp, mothy
April (2) - Vis, zuri
fluff (2) - Zenge, PSV

20/24

Leading: @zuriburi
missing: @HW_88 @justafluff @Aprilthearab @chicandtoughness

Vote closes at 9pm CST (~2.5 hours)

Unyeet wiisp
Yeet genny

Edit: I forgot to unyeet wiisp earlier

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Why not?

It's a joke because his roleplaying makes me giggle

 

[WildZoo]

Oh I missed April's response to Vis.

I'm okay with it for the moment.

Still mulling over whether to suspect wolves are factional infiltrators (hey @Animal Midwife remember that game?) or their own thing.

 

[Santygrass]

I'm questioning your aff, yeah.

You were not questioning me. /Shrug

You were puttingy aff in doubt to thread talking to the air, until I quoted/engaged you

 

[alleycat03]

Traveling sucks and there’s no way I’ll be caught up before yeet close

 

[Animal Midwife]

Oh I missed April's response to Vis.

I'm okay with it for the moment.

Still mulling over whether to suspect wolves are factional infiltrators (hey @Animal Midwife remember that game?) or their own thing.

I remember playing that game but my mind is skewed due to the fact it's so old I didn't even know I was village initially.

 

[Santygrass]

Oh I missed April's response to Vis.

I'm okay with it for the moment.

Still mulling over whether to suspect wolves are factional infiltrators (hey @Animal Midwife remember that game?) or their own thing.

Could see it go either way. Like, one of the main thing of TWSID is their ability to transform in to people and replace them. In the game they do it with set characters and stuff, but its something that flavorwise is super easy to adapt into a game.


But also, lolflavor and lolmechanics. We'll get there when we get there

 

[WildZoo]

Traveling sucks and there’s no way I’ll be caught up before yeet close

If you're that far behind, might be worthwhile just to hang out and chat with us in real time!
Why'd you swap to genny?