Fire Emblem: Three HoWWses Game Thread

[Santygrass]

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Unyeet Veggie
Yeet genny

 

[Santygrass]

Actually f it

Unyeet genny
Yeet PSV

 

[Wondalfy]

I'm not really liking any of these votes. I also thought before we started the game, we were signing up for our "factions" with the group we signed up with, so I see where April was coming from. I quickly figured out this was incorrect but it was an initial assumption.

As far as zuri, I could definitely be proven wrong (as my early voting streak was terrible), but I am not getting wolfy vibes. Zuri has doubled down a lot on his theory this game, which is something he like never did as a wolf. Also, I don't know why you'd double down so hard on a theory that's potentially incorrect as a wolf and bring that much attention to yourself.

 

[Zenge142]

...hmm

You want to expand on this for me? I want to see if you’re having the same thought I am.

 

[zuriburi]

If your theory is correct, which it's not, the game would be solvable just by knowing people's role info. So if everyone role revealed, by your theory, the villagers and wolves would be known automatically and the villagers could all yeet the wolves. Obviously that's broken and the game would not be designed in a way that would allow that which is one of the many reasons why your theory is not true

Not sure this is true. There are plenty of characters in each house and the mods could easily hold onto a handful to give to wolves. That and the faction-based mechanics incentivize the factions to avoid outing themselves for risk of getting targeted by another faction

 

[kaydubs]

Day 1: What Even Is A Vote Tally?

Santy ()
AM ()
chic ()
Nate ()
Clem ()
PSV (3) - SOV, Wondalfy, Santy
SOV ()
Wiisp (1) - alleycat, Nate
genny (4) - DubZ, Clem, alley, PlumPoppy
zuri (6) - SAR, Veggie, AM, genny, miranda920, CaptNemo
Veggie (2) - wiisp, mothy
April (2) - Vis, zuri

18/24

Leading: @zuriburi
missing: @HW_88 @potentialsheltervet @Zenge142 @justafluff @Aprilthearab @chicandtoughness

Vote closes at 9pm CST (~4 hours)

 

[zuriburi]

I don't super understand how this game works all I know is zenge is the same alignment as me

Trying to look at the thread without my midwife googles… I’m really not sure if this is a slip a fakeslip or just a joke

 

[zuriburi]

unYeet clem

i am a *****

on an unrelated note: way too many new people for my pea brain.

Why the quick unyeet of Clem?? I was assuming the boron stuff was about learning about the yeet term.

 

[justafluff]

I feel like I've already made my vote, and don't have anything to add right now. I think Zuri has not made a good showing in any post so far, keeps going around in circles, fishes for info where we have been pretty explicitly told not to share. I have some rough ideas on who else may be, but they aren't well developed enough for me to make a post on it.

I'm very suspicious of anyone voting for me so eagerly. Feels very much like a sacrifice/way to make a noob who doesn't get all the social dynamics yet look like a wolf. In general I'm a person who spends a lot of time observing and keeping things to myself. And setting that aside the last time I really tried to stand up for myself I was killed by wolves the same night.

But that’s my problem with your argument, I don’t see how Zuri is fishing for info, more or less than AM who was actively asking him to name factions. And it doesn’t seem to me that he’s going in circles either. Could you indicate which post you re referring to?

 

[zuriburi]

Not interested in voting Clem or SOV
Im not sure how much pressure will do at this time, but I can at least agree with SOV a tiny bit
the problem is it's not really easy to find intention all the time with early posts

fluff is fluff though
/shrug

Yeet PotentialVet

It took me foreeeevvverr to realize that people were referring to fluff as filler posts and fluffy as being wolfy and not referencing @justafluff posts I had fully missed.

 

[Animal Midwife]

But that’s my problem with your argument, I don’t see how Zuri is fishing for info, more or less than AM who was actively asking him to name factions. And it doesn’t seem to me that he’s going in circles either. Could you indicate which post you re referring to?

fluff, you've played enough to be a padawan. You know he's fishing.

 

[justafluff]

fluff, you've played enough to be a padawan. You know he's fishing.

That’s not what you re accusing him of though

 

[Santygrass]

I'm not really liking any of these votes. I also thought before we started the game, we were signing up for our "factions" with the group we signed up with, so I see where April was coming from. I quickly figured out this was incorrect but it was an initial assumption.

As far as zuri, I could definitely be proven wrong (as my early voting streak was terrible), but I am not getting wolfy vibes. Zuri has doubled down a lot on his theory this game, which is something he like never did as a wolf. Also, I don't know why you'd double down so hard on a theory that's potentially incorrect as a wolf and bring that much attention to yourself.

Even if I smewhat agree with the conclussion of zuri probably not being a wolf, I dont know if I can buy this reasoning as genuine.

Like, refuge to audacity/or being very vocal was something that zuri did in the last game and even purposufelly aimed at the 'Why would a wolf do this x much' , and I think at least to me its quite evident to see similarities in that regard.

I think the difference with zuri here lies mostly in *how* he angled the push, what was his focus, and it simply not being a wolfy perspective or just benefitial to a wolf to potentially start giving wincon related stuff on D1 .

So I'm side-eyeing this post a bit. But also you sre voting PSV with me so we are good for now

 

[zuriburi]

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I did enjoy this post, but also haven’t seen anything from Nate since this??

 

[Animal Midwife]

That’s not what you re accusing him of though

No, I'm accusing him of misdirection and lying. Plenty of others have also told him to stop fishing for 30+ hours now.

 

[Santygrass]

fluff, you've played enough to be a padawan. You know he's fishing.

Also agree with this.

Like, all the tinfoil revolving around mech and even the statement of 'if my theory was so wrong then someone could've claimed having different wincon' or something related, even if I dont agree with it its super easy to see as fishing.

Like, why I think all the tinfoil had to stop from Zuri in that regard was because it led discussion on to mech / affiliation territory which just wasnt good to do

 

[justafluff]

No, I'm accusing him of misdirection and lying. Plenty of others have also told him to stop fishing for 30+ hours now.

I thought the pledge was to stop theorizing and tinfoiling. If anything he’s accusing you of fishing.

 

[VeggieTrex]

No, I'm accusing him of misdirection and lying. Plenty of others have also told him to stop fishing for 30+ hours now.

Pretty much what it boils down to for me. I feel like I would have stopped digging ages ago, but zuri has just kept going.

 

[justafluff]

Also agree with this.

Like, all the tinfoil revolving around mech and even the statement of 'if my theory was so wrong then someone could've claimed having different wincon' or something related, even if I dont agree with it its super easy to see as fishing.

Like, why I think all the tinfoil had to stop from Zuri in that regard was because it led discussion on to mech / affiliation territory which just wasnt good to do

Ok I forgot about that specific argument. It stood out to me that AM was trying to make him name factions which is way more blatant imo

 

[zuriburi]

Even if I smewhat agree with the conclussion of zuri probably not being a wolf, I dont know if I can buy this reasoning as genuine.

Like, refuge to audacity/or being very vocal was something that zuri did in the last game and even purposufelly aimed at the 'Why would a wolf do this x much' , and I think at least to me its quite evident to see similarities in that regard.

I think the difference with zuri here lies mostly in *how* he angled the push, what was his focus, and it simply not being a wolfy perspective or just benefitial to a wolf to potentially start giving wincon related stuff on D1 .

So I'm side-eyeing this post a bit. But also you sre voting PSV with me so we are good for now

I think that part at the end that you bolded is true though. In the last game I was sorta running with whatever theory came up, and throwing a lot of spaghetti at the wall to see what sticks and not pushing any argument so relentlessly as I have here. I mean I guess to your point it’s not village-clearing or anything for me to be more stuck on a theory than I was in the last game but i think wondalfys right that that’s a difference between my behavior in the 2 games.

 

[Wondalfy]

Even if I smewhat agree with the conclussion of zuri probably not being a wolf, I dont know if I can buy this reasoning as genuine.

Like, refuge to audacity/or being very vocal was something that zuri did in the last game and even purposufelly aimed at the 'Why would a wolf do this x much' , and I think at least to me its quite evident to see similarities in that regard.

I think the difference with zuri here lies mostly in *how* he angled the push, what was his focus, and it simply not being a wolfy perspective or just benefitial to a wolf to potentially start giving wincon related stuff on D1 .

So I'm side-eyeing this post a bit. But also you sre voting PSV with me so we are good for now

I agree zuri was also very vocal in the last game, but to me it was in a different manner. Often he backed off from his theories, included lots of question marks, or made clear it may not be true (so having a sort of scapegoat if a theory was incorrect), as far as I remember. But I also know you're his manator so I respect you probably know him better/remember his posts better. I also agree it's not a particularly wolfy perspective in my opinion (as stated earlier in the thread, I think it's more likely those involved have exclusive factions).

 

[Animal Midwife]

I thought the pledge was to stop theorizing and tinfoiling. If anything he’s accusing you of fishing.

I don't know what pledge you're talking about because nothing has changed despite the gradual increase of gentle nudges to heavy pushes to move in a different direction of gamesolving that doesn't endanger villagers.

He is accusing me of fishing. Normally, that's a good thing to stop. There's just one teensy problem. Literally none of my posts are fishing as had been confirmed and explained by several people multiple times.

I really don't care to keep talking about a tinfoil that I thought was going to be pushed aside today. I'm much more interested in his reads that I've been waiting on.

 

[Aprilthearab]

At this point I don’t think DubZ is a wolf given that she actually addressed my argument directly.

Do you think that I've addressed your argument directly? Because I feel like I have at least a handful of times yet you're still feeling wolfy enough about me to move your vote to me

 

[Santygrass]

I think that part at the end that you bolded is true though. In the last game I was sorta running with whatever theory came up, and throwing a lot of spaghetti at the wall to see what sticks and not pushing any argument so relentlessly as I have here. I mean I guess to your point it’s not village-clearing or anything for me to be more stuck on a theory than I was in the last game but i think wondalfys right that that’s a difference between my behavior in the 2 games.

Yeah, I can see the argument of you being more relentlessly / or pushing more this one being kinda different.
But coming from a game when being bold was the reason some.people townread you as a wolf, a noob villager making that read again seems kinda off, even if the argument of you pushing more here its true. Like, I feel that wouldn't be something out of your range? And specially to a villager that lost to wolf!you.

So if I had to bet on that read alone, I'd say its a case of someone who knows you arent a wolf and building a read on that perspective.

Tho I am not married by it and like I said, their complaining about the votes on veggie/genny with minimal explanation being off, or them voting PSV on the other hand are good things to me.

 

[Aprilthearab]

how common is it for alleycat to solely react to posts for like 4 pages, and then finally officially enter the thread around the 240 post marker, and just fluff? its just weird to me that they were clearly reading, and entered with nothing

unless its common practice for them to mindlessly react to posts

Alley always reacts to almost every post as she catches up. Her eventual thread entrance didn't bother me (in the way that the tone in a post or two made me go hmm but that is consistent with me reading her village meta) and I'm not surprised that it feels like the content level might have been low in her D1 catch up posts

 

[Santygrass]

I agree zuri was also very vocal in the last game, but to me it was in a different manner. Often he backed off from his theories, included lots of question marks, or made clear it may not be true (so having a sort of scapegoat if a theory was incorrect), as far as I remember. But I also know you're his manator so I respect you probably know him better/remember his posts better. I also agree it's not a particularly wolfy perspective in my opinion (as stated earlier in the thread, I think it's more likely those involved have exclusive factions).

Also your opinion as someone who was playing with them is super valid tho so I will also take it in mind and I think that regardless of your aff your read there seeing that Zuri agrees with it seems more valid than I initially thought

 

[genny]

We need more votes. Where’s my manatee @HW_88 and why hasn’t she voted for me yet?

 

[Aprilthearab]

Re: PSV I don’t have a wolfy tell. I just know she’s usually more engaged but she might be busy irl. I just pointed out that she feels different.

I remember her being very engaged with the game last time she was scum so if anything, I'm feeling fine about her for the time being

 

[NateTheLesser]

Ya boy Ice has been high af for the last 24 hours, where we at my bros and brosephinas?

(Had an EOD in my other game earlier and we yeeted the last wolf so <o/

I'm about halfway caught up here. Has anything changed in the zuri reads since last-night-ish? Or has it continued to be about them digging in on the same points? Because I really don't think they're a hit based on the first 9 or so pages and don't think they should be the yeet. Other than zuri I'm leaning town on Clem, Zenge, and fluff)

 

[Zenge142]

I don’t like the pushes Fluff has been making or the logic of some of her arguments.

The quick vote and unvote of veggie stands out as a wolf just sort of looking to see what sticks, and not a villager with conviction in their vote.

Yeet Fluff

 

[NateTheLesser]

I did enjoy this post, but also haven’t seen anything from Nate since this??

(I voted for Wisp after that, but yeah)

 

[Santygrass]

Ya boy Ice has been high af for the last 24 hours, where we at my bros and brosephinas?

(Had an EOD in my other game earlier and we yeeted the last wolf so <o/

I'm about halfway caught up here. Has anything changed in the zuri reads since last-night-ish? Or has it continued to be about them digging in on the same points? Because I really don't think they're a hit based on the first 9 or so pages and don't think they should be the yeet. Other than zuri I'm leaning town on Clem, Zenge, and fluff)

I think explaining your rationale behind your read on fluff maybe good.
Zenge I have as null. Clem I do agree that I'm leaning villageish

 

[zuriburi]

Do you think that I've addressed your argument directly? Because I feel like I have at least a handful of times yet you're still feeling wolfy enough about me to move your vote to me

Nothing has stuck for me though I do appreciate you talking through the mass claim point. I’ll iso you and see if you still appear wolfy. Right now my best guess at a pack would be you, amw, and chic from what I’ve seen at thread open but I don’t really feel there’s much to go off of.

 

[NateTheLesser]

Even if I smewhat agree with the conclussion of zuri probably not being a wolf, I dont know if I can buy this reasoning as genuine.

Like, refuge to audacity/or being very vocal was something that zuri did in the last game and even purposufelly aimed at the 'Why would a wolf do this x much' , and I think at least to me its quite evident to see similarities in that regard.

I think the difference with zuri here lies mostly in *how* he angled the push, what was his focus, and it simply not being a wolfy perspective or just benefitial to a wolf to potentially start giving wincon related stuff on D1 .

So I'm side-eyeing this post a bit. But also you sre voting PSV with me so we are good for now

(Okay, I'm filling in gaps, but you're still defending zuri? Noticed that early on and made a mental note to check again later since defending your townreads is something I look for from you)

 

[justafluff]

I remember her being very engaged with the game last time she was scum so if anything, I'm feeling fine about her for the time being

It currently feels like she’s sort of throwing shade here and there, like her post about Santy and about Zenge being scummy. But mulling over that point; she’s been super active as a wolf and a 3p before. I think she’s just engaging on surface level here and that makes her posts read as suspicious

 

[Santygrass]

(Okay, I'm filling in gaps, but you're still defending zuri? Noticed that early on and made a mental note to check again later since defending your townreads is something I look for from you)

Yes, I think they arent a wolf.

Rn I'd yeet between genny and PSV

 

[Aprilthearab]

It currently feels like she’s sort of throwing shade here and there, like her post about Santy and about Zenge being scummy. But mulling over that point; she’s been super active as a wolf and a 3p before. I think she’s just engaging on surface level here and that makes her posts read as suspicious

I'll see if I feel differently about her as I read on, I'm caught up to page 11 and haven't seen her throw shade yet

 

[Santygrass]

Yes, I think they arent a wolf.

Rn I'd yeet between genny and PSV

April, fluff and SAR are a level down from them ig but I am trying to not be too much of a pusher / try to poke too much and be more focused kindof.

That leaves me more time to do some reading.


Reading as in: Play my gachas

 

[Aprilthearab]

I think she’s just engaging on surface level here and that makes her posts read as suspicious

And to this point in particular, it feels more like "I'm village and I don't know what's going on" than "I'm wolf and I'm not diving into deeper discussions," but that's just a general vibe I've gotten

 

[Santygrass]

I'll see if I feel differently about her as I read on, I'm caught up to page 11 and haven't seen her throw shade yet

I think engagement is NAI mostly tbh . Since PSV has mafia addiction and I relate to that

 

[justafluff]

I don’t like the pushes Fluff has been making or the logic of some of her arguments.

The quick vote and unvote of veggie stands out as a wolf just sort of looking to see what sticks, and not a villager with conviction in their vote.

Yeet Fluff

Yeah I thought it will seem that way. I was the first to bring attention to veg last night and didn’t wanna vote for her due to being a noob. The moment I decide to place a vote, there’s uproar. So I was like “fine I’ll give veg a chance”. I don’t think I’ve pushed anyone else other than being annoyed at midwife, so please, do tell who else I’m pushing so that I can decide who to vote.

 

[NateTheLesser]

I think explaining your rationale behind your read on fluff maybe good.
Zenge I have as null. Clem I do agree that I'm leaning villageish

(I've got some rough buckets of "people who seem to be operating based on similar information as me", which includes zuri, Clem, Zenge, fluff. And "people who don't seem to have the same information", which includes AM, Dubz, April, genny.

That's not exactly a POE because we don't know how things map to alignment yet, but I'd rather yeet from the second list than the first list. If that makes sense.

Again, still only about half caught up so those could change)

 

[Santygrass]

(I've got some rough buckets of "people who seem to be operating based on similar information as me", which includes zuri, Clem, Zenge, fluff. And "people who don't seem to have the same information", which includes AM, Dubz, April, genny.

That's not exactly a POE because we don't know how things map to alignment yet, but I'd rather yeet from the second list than the first list. If that makes sense.

Again, still only about half caught up so those could change)

Oh yeah, it totally makes sense and its something Im pretty blatantly avoiding to do LOL

 

[NateTheLesser]

(I've got some rough buckets of "people who seem to be operating based on similar information as me", which includes zuri, Clem, Zenge, fluff. And "people who don't seem to have the same information", which includes AM, Dubz, April, genny.

That's not exactly a POE because we don't know how things map to alignment yet, but I'd rather yeet from the second list than the first list. If that makes sense.

Again, still only about half caught up so those could change)

(Oh, Wisp is also part of the second list, hence my earlier vote)

 

[NateTheLesser]

Oh yeah, it totally makes sense and its something Im pretty blatantly avoiding to do LOL

Word.

 

[NateTheLesser]

Yes, I think they arent a wolf.

Rn I'd yeet between genny and PSV

(Why genny? I saw some of the early reactions to her post about not focusing on wolfhunting and calling it a perspective slip but that seems thin to me)

 

[zuriburi]

Nothing has stuck for me though I do appreciate you talking through the mass claim point. I’ll iso you and see if you still appear wolfy. Right now my best guess at a pack would be you, amw, and chic from what I’ve seen at thread open but I don’t really feel there’s much to go off of.

Ok so here’s what I have:

Ah makes sense

FWIW, recognizing everyone's entitled to their own opinion, I think it can be dangerous to assign affiliations based on mechanics assumptions. Known and straightforward mechanics/clear writeup hints are one thing, but I often find incorrect assumptions are made when people try to fill in gaps between mechanics knowledge with guesses and it can lead to incorrect yeets

This is an indirect response discouraging the type of logic I was using, not engaging with the logic itself.

I don't have any real reason to believe it, it's just where my brain went lol but I'm also not sure if the factions (whatever they actually are) are strictly alignment-oriented or just... flavor or something, given that Sporty said there's a traditional wolf pack

Wondering if the factions are just flavor-related implies that your style of faction is very different from mine. Which I’ve been very possibly faultily arguing appears wolfy to me based off of the very possibly wrong logic I’ve been using.

We can agree that factions exist AND also aim to just wolf hunt given the writeup info we have, those aren't mutually exclusive villager things. Do you think it would make more sense for people to come out on thread and say "I'm not wolf hunting, I'm faction hunting because it's my wincon"?

I see where you're coming from and why you'd reason that but I think this is the exact type of mechanics assumptions that get villagers yeeted

This felt like a fair response as to why it would make sense to prioritize wolf hunting over faction-solving

I read my role multiple times, am village, and still did not know about the complexity of factions until other people started talking about it. So that's part of the reason I know your assumption is wrong and is likely to get dangerous for village

This is the closest anyone’s come to saying that my take is explicitly wrong based on their role. Which I guess would be pretty risky to do as a wolf and is the most villagey thing I can see in your iso.

What I meant by engaged with my argument directly is that wildzoo and later vis seemed to be the only people to follow and understand the argument I was making against amw specifically. Which could also be wolfy attempts at pocketing name, but i feel like I’ve been unpopular enough this game that there’s very little to gain from pocketing me.

 

[Santygrass]

(Why genny? I saw some of the early reactions to her post about not focusing on wolfhunting and calling it a perspective slip but that seems thin to me)

I think the approach of it just dont fit as villagey tbh. And like, their subsequent posting even if it had the genny mark of being little/fluffy , it had nothing to maybe sway me or even doubt it.

Also other thing I'm taking into account one of the last games I think? I've also saw some wolfy perspective/approach on a V!genny and there was people who correctly saw genny as villa there. Here It feels the opposite case so even if its early to maybe make that comparison is something that gives me more confidence on genny just being a hit here

 

[Aprilthearab]

You know who you’re allied with?

I don’t think (?) the point was “if wolfhunting, wolf” but “if acting as though there are no factions among villagers, as a wolf likely wouldn’t have that knowledge, that’s wolfy”. But that’s how I feel so I may just be projecting.

Anyways, for that reason,

Yeet April

This is making me go hmm
Not because you're voting me, but because the post at the top makes it clear that you haven't received as much info as someone else. But when I haven't received as much info as someone else, that makes me wolfy, apparently

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Why it stands out to you?

Elaborate

Because it feels like you're giving general advice to the noobs that doesn't necessarily pertain to *this game* in an effort to seem helpful rather than actively pushing and looking for wolves.

I really don’t know. What I was trying to say is the Wolfpack isn’t probably just called “the wolves”. I thought they are the faction I’m opposed to. But if that opposing faction is different for everyone then that’s probably not the case. Also cause mass claim would solve the game if that were true. So I don’t know anymore.
this shouldn’t interfere with wolfhunting however.

What is the point of you continuously bringing up the faction you're aligned against? How is that helpful?

You want to expand on this for me? I want to see if you’re having the same thought I am.

My thought is she was very quick both to yeet and unyeet veggie and in particular the "but if you guys don't like my vote" part reminds me of someone trying not to upset the majority.