GGoats!! - An aMAAAAAHzing WW thread

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samac said:
I can’t fault sunshine for being in the exact same boat I was in yesterday of being too busy. I know I very recently made a post saying I wanted to hear more from her and she’s done that. I’m flipping her from leaving wolf to leaning village and I’m finding myself also sus of Z. I’ve not played with him before but I find it weird that he has this elaborate reasoning for the TE vote. It feels like an over-explainy possible wolf-y mistake.
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This seems super sus to me, the part about flipping from wolf to village. Also I feel that Mayo is sus and it seems samac feels Mayo is village is giving me wolfy vibes. For that...

###yeet samac####
 
Unofficial D2 Yeet Tally

alissa (5) - AM, Dina, Doggo, Cray, shorty
sunshine (2) - Barks, dubz
samac (1) - Lainey
April (1) - Mayo

9/15
yeet close in ~3.5 hours
 
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Zenge142 said:
Correct me if I’m wrong but you’re arguing that players shouldn’t use night kills to analyze the game state, and that wolves are killing people without any thought or strategy?
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I'm saying you can drive yourself crazy trying to figure out the wolve's logic. It's worth looking at, but I think that's a big part of where the whole concept WIFOM comes from. (AM or someone feel free to correct me if I'm using this wrong)

In the game I was a wolf, we literally killed a player to confuse people. In the morning, everyone tried to figure out the reason. The reason was that it would be confusing.

Think about it, but I don't think it is as important as examining wagons on interactions
 
Animal Midwife said:
"weirdly absent during night action dump"

Even if you ignore the exact time it took place, you should know me better than that by now. Outside all that though, I still don't understand how those are the only things you've noticed about my play.
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Well i've been reduced down to "defended dubz and mkg" even though I know someone (dubz?) asked her about all the supposedly sketchy things I've down
 
holdthemayo said:
In the game I was a wolf, we literally killed a player to confuse people. In the morning, everyone tried to figure out the reason. The reason was that it would be confusing.
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Okay! There you go! You’re putting forward an alternative theory of your own. Certainly plausible.
 
Animal Midwife said:
"weirdly absent during night action dump"

Even if you ignore the exact time it took place, you should know me better than that by now. Outside all that though, I still don't understand how those are the only things you've noticed about my play.
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okay well AM sorry to tell you, you are not the center of my universe. And that spreadsheet is mostly a note to self as i make reads. The primary audience is me, and secondary audience is the thread.
Zenge142 said:
By all means, please elaborate.
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I have already said, Your elaborate explanation was that the wolves were trying to make april appear sus, even though she was already being sus'ed and narrowly avoided being yeeted.
supershorty said:
I'm getting some weird vibes from all the sunshine-samac-mayo buddying up that's gone on in the last couple hours. It hasn't changed my reads, but I'm noting it.
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Well, to start, we are all on the medical side and have a kinship from interacting on other SDN for years, just like some people have a vet kinship. Also, we agree on some general game ideological principles. Also, I am also getting worried of the chance they could be supporting me to pocket me lol but I never fully trust anyone in this game. (especially since the closest i got was last game and visc/april/vetschools burned me).
Zenge142 said:
Just so we’re clear here, you’re agreeing with Mayo that NKs should not be analyzed, and the wolves are killing at random, without reason or strategy?
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Wrong again, I'm agreeing with Mayo that there are many possible reasons why TME was killed, and we absolutely can judge you for your twisted explanation.
 
I hope @alissa14 shows up because I have wolfier reads than her (due to her inactivity) and I'd like to move my vote to one of them, but I'd also like an explanation of her reads that she keeps not providing.
 
sunshinefl said:
okay well AM sorry to tell you, you are not the center of my universe. And that spreadsheet is mostly a note to self as i make reads. The primary audience is me, and secondary audience is the thread.
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Well since it was shared with the thread I assumed it was for everyone. Still surprised mine is so empty with no read still.
 
due to my comments and interactions with him on the thread, as well as what I said on my spreadsheet:

asking mkg questions about things they already volunteered, good analysis, saying NK1 could be 3P, elobarate TME/April theory to clear April that magically ends with me out of nowhere??
 
WildZoo said:
What kind of resistance are you looking for? So far I see at least 3 people speaking out against the vote and a different wagon growing.

Also none of this addresses any of the points I made about her.
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You're right, I somehow missed the points you made about her in my skimming. Like I said, I'm not opposed to the Sun argument, and looking at your points I do agree with them. I just wanted to see how the Sun yeet evolved through the day. Those two points I addressed were at the front of my mind when I made a quick post in between appointments.

Also, about the resistance, I just read page 21 up until your post and see that Cray essentially said the same thing I did but no one complained when she said it:
Crayola227 said:
I sus Sunny, but I don't like the pile up with very little resistance. I didn't go to sleep yet, so a chance I sleep through deadline. So gonna drop a vote after I look at the thread to see if I missed anything big.
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By resistance, I was looking to see if someone had made any comments about thinking there was a better candidate or disagreeing with any points made, because so far I just saw you (Dubz) and Zenge plus maybe a couple others thinking Sun is yeet material today and not much else. Then again, I was skimming, so I might have missed something.
Animal Midwife said:
Do you have thoughts on the alissa wagon?
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Dinashadow said:
If not sunny then who? I'm interested in hearing who you're reading as wolfy today
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I've still got two pages to catch up so I'll temporarily hold off on answering these so I don't seem out of sync with the thread.
 
sunshinefl said:
due to my comments and interactions with him on the thread, as well as what I said on my spreadsheet:

asking mkg questions about things they already volunteered, good analysis, saying NK1 could be 3P, elobarate TME/April theory to clear April that magically ends with me out of nowhere??
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Why is good analysis a reason for you to yeet Zenge?
 
Aprilthearab said:
Why is good analysis a reason for you to yeet Zenge?
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well that's what i said at the time. But even a wolf has to pretend to be trying to game solve. since then, and before too as noted on spreadsheet, he either asks things that have already recently been said by that person, or promotes bizarre complicated theories.
 
sunshinefl said:
asking mkg questions about things they already volunteered, good analysis, saying NK1 could be 3P, elobarate TME/April theory to clear April that magically ends with me out of nowhere??
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1. asking mkg questions about things they already volunteered: Didn’t happen.
2. good analysis: Thanks?
3. saying NK1 could be 3P: It could have been. You don’t know. I was wondering if it was possible. Anything possible.
4. elobarate TME/April theory to clear April that magically ends with me out of nowhere?? It’s wasn’t really that elaborate, and ending with you wasn’t out of nowhere, I laid out why I put my vote on you. You’re being obtuse, or you’re wolfing.
 
Zenge142 said:
1. asking mkg questions about things they already volunteered: Didn’t happen.
2. good analysis: Thanks?
3. saying NK1 could be 3P: It could have been. You don’t know. I was wondering if it was possible. Anything possible.
4. elobarate TME/April theory to clear April that magically ends with me out of nowhere?? It’s wasn’t really that elaborate, and ending with you wasn’t out of nowhere, I laid out why I put my vote on you. You’re being obtuse, or you’re wolfing.
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1. it did
2. you *were* doing a good job trying to mirror your village analysis
3. okay but also no
4. You're being obtuse AND you're wolfing
 
alissa14 said:
Noting soft defense of mkg here.
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I feel like you really missed the context this was posted in because 70% of my argument was saying how mkg was sounding coached (aka noob wolf). After I posted all that, mkg's responses to me and others questioning her were very reasonable and consistent and she's doing a decent job playing with no new pings (though I would like to see more from her), so I'm leaning village on her.

Not appreciating the seemingly intentional twisting of my words.
 
Zenge142 said:
I’d like you to provide specific examples of this please.
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bro it was early on and there are 24 pages. The point of the spreadsheet is to make those notes while they happen. I started to try to look for it but it's overwhelming and frustrating. If I come across it while looking back for something else I will gladly bring it to your attention again.
 
Barkley13 said:
So why defend sun and say her vote has no resistance and not any good reasons but then say you aren’t caught up so cant comment accurately when questioned?
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The point of my post wasn't to defend sun, it was to say that I wasn't opposed to the Sun yeet but not necessarily for two of the reasons presented that caught my attention. That, and I wanted to keep an eye on where the Sun yeet progressed through the day and wasn't ready to put my vote there. I would rather pop in to get a feel for the thread state and make a note about it so I don't show up a couple hours before yeet close scrambling to assemble my thoughts.
 
sunshinefl said:
bro it was early on and there are 24 pages. The point of the spreadsheet is to make those notes while they happen. I started to try to look for it but it's overwhelming and frustrating. If I come across it while looking back for something else I will gladly bring it to your attention again.
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Wow. There's a search, you know. It's really easy.

Low effort gets more wolfy vibes from me. This isn't typical sunny.
 
sunshinefl said:
bro it was early on and there are 24 pages. The point of the spreadsheet is to make those notes while they happen. I started to try to look for it but it's overwhelming and frustrating. If I come across it while looking back for something else I will gladly bring it to your attention again.
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So basically I caught you in a lie, and you’re trying to pretend that it’s just too hard to find?

YEET SUNSHINE
 
sunshinefl said:
bro it was early on and there are 24 pages. The point of the spreadsheet is to make those notes while they happen. I started to try to look for it but it's overwhelming and frustrating. If I come across it while looking back for something else I will gladly bring it to your attention again.
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So I went back and looked for where Zenge asked mkg questions. I found one (though it was a quick search):
Zenge142 said:
Just out of curiosity, which games did you read?
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Wow so repetitive, so wolfy
Zenge142 said:
Like your bus driving license should be suspended.
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Also Zenge, in my search I found this too. I took note of it because this was your response to me when I had my vote on Mayo and I know later today you mentioned that you think I am village and people were trying to capitalize on my yeet D1. Was this post (above) a joke, or was this genuine and your opinion of me has now changed?
 
sunshinefl said:
bro it was early on and there are 24 pages. The point of the spreadsheet is to make those notes while they happen. I started to try to look for it but it's overwhelming and frustrating. If I come across it while looking back for something else I will gladly bring it to your attention again.
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...yeah no, if you're gonna make claims like that you have to show your work
 
sunshinefl said:
I DONT CARE ABOUT YOU TRYING TO DEFEND YOUR FIANCE BECAUSE I HAVE A MIGRAINE AND DONT WANT TO SCROLL THROUGH MULTIPLE PAGES AGAIN.
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Okay, calm down.

I went back and ISOed his interactions with her because I don't mind doing ISOs. I could not find any of what you described. I will leave the relevant quotes below. If it's too much effort for you to peruse them, don't.

Zenge142 said:
Most of my background came from listening to Shorty talk about the Cartoons game, I did glance at other games.

There does seem to be a good amount of knowledge here. It’s little things that stick out to me. Talking about bussing a teammate D1 two games in a row requires them to have fully read the basics game to completion, fully understood it, and everything that happened, and apply it to this game. While not impossible, seems like a lot.

Also just the use of D1 pings me a little, the same way they’re using bus. It’s language you become familiar with, but they’re using it quickly. I sort of expect a game 1 noob to say day one and not immediately revert to acronyms. Not that that can’t also just be picked up easily and used immediately by a noob, it’s not string theory, but it’s a curious thing.
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In response to being asked his thoughts because he picked up the game very quickly.
Zenge142 said:
Just out of curiosity, which games did you read?
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As far as I can tell, the only question he directly asked mkg.
Zenge142 said:
Yeah, I think that’s a bit of a reach by @Aprilthearab.
For now, short of some egregious rojo, I don’t think I’m going to be voting for MKG.

It does seem like these games tend to have a habit of casting suspicion on to noobs just because we don’t know what to expect and end up over analyzing, and it’s statistically more likely to lead to misyeets.

It seems like a distraction, when there are more prominent targets, and people who’ve barely talked or haven’t talked at all yet to worry about.
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Zenge142 said:
@Aprilthearab How do you feel about this in the MKG is a fast learner vs. being coached debate?
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I think this last one ended up in here out of order but I'm not sure where it goes chronologically and it doesn't really matter.

That's it. So @sunshinefl, I can't help but feel you really are stretching/fibbing with that, and it doesn't feel good.
 
Aprilthearab said:
Also Zenge, in my search I found this too. I took note of it because this was your response to me when I had my vote on Mayo and I know later today you mentioned that you think I am village and people were trying to capitalize on my yeet D1. Was this post (above) a joke, or was this genuine and your opinion of me has now changed?
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The bus driving comment was mostly just a salt joke. I had you neutral at the time.

Currently I’m reading you with a village lean. You’re tough for me, because I’ve never actually seen you village, and you kind of pocketed me in Emojis. They were nice pockets though. Spacious.
 
sunshinefl said:
I like the points being made about AM here.

hmm... something to think of i regards to WZ.

yes exactly. Just one of many sketchy things Barks has done.

this is a weird comment. There are 17 total players in this game, how many 3Ps would there be? And why would the wolves abstain from NK'ing??

still weird
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Feels like trying to convey wolfhunting without actually wolfhunting
 
LaineyLou said:
Dubz was seeming really neutral with the whole cray versus shorty discussion with slight support of shorty “hey cray that wasn’t necessary” I’m reading dubz as a ??? Because they could be overly trying to be neutral to seem less sus as a wolf.
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I read that more as "Hey Cray you overstepped a boundary and that's not cool," and I don't think it has anything to do at all with who she was inclined to agree with or her affiliation. Otherwise though I do agree that Dubz is a hard player, at least for me, to read.
 
supershorty said:
Will there be cake?! 🍰🧁🎂
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A cake, a yeet, strippers, muppets and Goats!!!!!!!

the muppets dancing GIF
 
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