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SummerTheLynx said:
No but "netting a chaos" is a way of wording it where people will be like "oh gosh, a chaos, let's kill it now!!!!"

Caiter has more of a fun factor to her game. She will do a combo of strategy and fun in her pick. You fit both categories quite well. So does filly.
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What phrasing would you prefer?

You of all people know I am never one to just outright go after chaos. However, I'm very much not fond of being retaliation lynched for daring to pick up on details, and it makes me grumpy.

Not nearly as grumpy as @DVMDream, though, and underneath that she's always awesome at seeing through this sort of bull.
 
Trilt said:
What phrasing would you prefer?

You of all people know I am never one to just outright go after chaos. However, I'm very much not fond of being retaliation lynched for daring to pick up on details, and it makes me grumpy.

Not nearly as grumpy as @DVMDream, though, and underneath that she's always awesome at seeing through this sort of bull.
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But if it's a correct lynch, does that make it wrong? 😉
 
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Ack a lot has happened today. I just got back from a church thing, and I'm about to be out of cell service for the next few hours. I can't catch up right now - someone has info on a conversion? I don't think Caiter can die today, in that case, so I don't want to put my vote there.

I'm not the convert. @SnowshoeDog143 did you get results about an ability being used on you N1? That was me. I started this game as village and I still am.
 
Torn between thinking one of our double players would be a great convert choice or a terrible one. It's harder for me to get a read on them, which could work as an advantage or disadvantage, I guess. But if they're converted then two people have to continue to post and avoid suspicion rather than just one, so it seems a little risky for Caiter to choose a paired player.
 
I'm going to throw out

Lynch Genny

As a convert choice. I'll try to check in again, but we're headed out the door.
 
SummerTheLynx said:
I am very curious as to how you got this news. And I would love to know your role name before I trust this (nothing else, just role name). Wondering if you need time to fulfill a win condition 😉

And when are you claiming the convert occurred? Last night?
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I had the ask a mod item. I think called case study or library or something. I don't know when it occurred just that it did. Also not telling you role name because there's no purpose to it other than speculating the horrible things I might be. From what I understand basically all the characters are morally ambiguous so it's really not going to help.
 
Coopah said:
I had the ask a mod item. I think called case study or library or something. I don't know when it occurred just that it did. Also not telling you role name because there's no purpose to it other than speculating the horrible things I might be. From what I understand basically all the characters are morally ambiguous so it's really not going to help.
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Can you be a little more specific about what you asked?
 
SummerTheLynx said:
Anyone else able to confine

no one is questioning that you were village, it's whether you are still village.
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I have a couple votes on the board and I'm leaving for the mountain, so I want to post what I can in case this bandwagons against me.
 
LetItSnow said:
I buy that argument, but the biggest weakness is that it assumes Caiter is wolf and not some 'alpha' chaos/neutral role or something.

Right?
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Right, but I thought there was mod info that she's a wolf.

I actually like the idea of converting one of the hydra players, probably trippy. That way you kind of get two wolves for the price of one.
 
Jilary said:
Right, but I thought there was mod info that she's a wolf.

I actually like the idea of converting one of the hydra players, probably trippy. That way you kind of get two wolves for the price of one.
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I really think it's trippy. As if filly doesn't produce for us in like 3-4 days, she is an auto lynch. And caiter isn't that close with anyone else in this game, except maybe PBC
 
SummerTheLynx said:
She acknowledges it but says anything is possible, hedging.

Tries to wait as long as possible to vote for nohika.

Tries to make it seem like plan won't work, reverse trajectory of lynch.

Votes Lyra with nohika and PBC, all within 30 seconds of each other, more than an hour before lynch would end.

Lupin thing seemed disingenuous.

Voted for cheat when we know after the fact cheat was investigated and was going down. If people are notified of investigations, which if kaydubs does results, she will inform them they are, then this seemed like getting ahead of fire.

Reluctantly switches to wolf that shouldn't 100% go down last second, and makes it very clear that her name should appear on tally as voting for Lyra.

The 4 thing seemed like a misdirection. Of course there is likely 5 at the start in a 26 person game.

Tries to run with 4 when suggested.


Really because you were on multiple bandwagons this game 😉.

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so trilt, wondering how you got to a different interpretation than I did. Given all of that, I have her as not a wolf solely because Of Filly's results (of caiter being a wolf). Speaking of filly, where has she been? Is she still alive? Would be a great conversion target if there was a conversion.
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Cheat wasn't investigated. I got drunk and convinced MJ to kill her based of my feels that I couldn't find the eloquence to explain. He trusted me and said something along the lines of crazy enough to try. So that on emeans nothing. I personally think snowy is fine. She's been on just about every wolf vote.
 
Coopah said:
Cheat wasn't investigated. I got drunk and convinced MJ to kill her based of my feels that I couldn't find the eloquence to explain. He trusted me and said something along the lines of crazy enough to try. So that on emeans nothing. I personally think snowy is fine. She's been on just about every wolf vote.
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I am off my snowy kick (only because of caiter coming up as wolf through mod mechanic), I was just trying to see where the disconnect was for me and trilt, as it's telling when you read people differently when you normally read them similarly.
 
Okay, I am gung to
*********lynch trilt***********
At least with filly we can catch her if she's not producing. Trilt there's going to be no way to know for sure without the lynch, and I am not overly thrilled with responses from today. Definitely want to get @PippyPony in on this as well, and get another side of the coin
 
Coopah said:
I had the ask a mod item. I think called case study or library or something. I don't know when it occurred just that it did. Also not telling you role name because there's no purpose to it other than speculating the horrible things I might be. From what I understand basically all the characters are morally ambiguous so it's really not going to help.
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can you be a little more specific here? Just requires a quick look into your role PM...
SummerTheLynx said:
I really think it's trippy. As if filly doesn't produce for us in like 3-4 days, she is an auto lynch. And caiter isn't that close with anyone else in this game, except maybe PBC
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You really think wolves would pick literally the most obvious choice in a game where they're being slaughtered? If people didn't lynch me while convert hunting they would be idiots.
SummerTheLynx said:
I am off my snowy kick (only because of caiter coming up as wolf through mod mechanic), I was just trying to see where the disconnect was for me and trilt, as it's telling when you read people differently when you normally read them similarly.
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So make up your mind, am I a convert or an original wolf? Because I've argued against a Snowy lynch for days.

I don't think I could play WW with @jdh71, would be much too distracted by his good looks.
 
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Trilt said:
can you be a little more specific here? Just requires a quick look into your role PM...

You really think wolves would pick literally the most obvious choice in a game where they're being slaughtered? If people didn't lynch me while convert hunting they would be idiots.

So make up your mind, am I a convert or an original wolf? Because I've argued against a Snowy lynch for days.
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Oh you are a convert if you are a wolf. I just think caiter would convert someone she likes, and converting a seer works about 0% of the time, so that will at least net us something if it's the other person she's closest to
 
Trilt said:
can you be a little more specific here? Just requires a quick look into your role PM...

You really think wolves would pick literally the most obvious choice in a game where they're being slaughtered? If people didn't lynch me while convert hunting they would be idiots.

So make up your mind, am I a convert or an original wolf? Because I've argued against a Snowy lynch for days.
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Case Law Library - Good students study. And Annalise will ride your ass if you don't know your tort. Hit the books my friend. Maybe you can find the answer to the right question and have it ready for Annalise in class tomorrow.

We'll if we'd be stupid not to, I think you're gonna die anyway.
 
SummerTheLynx said:
@Filly Bay where are you at?
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She's at a work party.
SummerTheLynx said:
Definitely want to get @PippyPony in on this as well, and get another side of the coin
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And she's in the middle of a national park, hence the hydra-ing.
SummerTheLynx said:
Oh you are a convert if you are a wolf. I just think caiter would convert someone she likes, and converting a seer works about 0% of the time, so that will at least net us something if it's the other person she's closest to
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Then your complaints about our Snowy reads not matching up don't make any sense, unless you think I was converted like, N2.

I don't know a lot of the older lounge players because they're before my time, but I've heard nothing but good things about @alfonzarel.
 
Trilt said:
She's at a work party.

And she's in the middle of a national park, hence the hydra-ing.

Then your complaints about our Snowy reads not matching up don't make any sense, unless you think I was converted like, N2.

I don't know a lot of the older lounge players because they're before my time, but I've heard nothing but good things about @alfonzarel.
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All I am doing is accumulating information. Looking at how you spin certain things. I need data to be able to spit out a wolf.

And Ms. I am not voting today, where are your thoughts on where to vote? Where's your logic train towards people. Since you have only thrown shade at our presumed chaos today who you definitely would not vote for
 
SummerTheLynx said:
All I am doing is accumulating information. Looking at how you spin certain things. I need data to be able to spit out a wolf.

And Ms. I am not voting today, where are your thoughts on where to vote? Where's your logic train towards people. Since you have only thrown shade at our presumed chaos today who you definitely would not vote for
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Thrown shade... by pointing out an inconsistency, and him responding much too dramatically, and me pointing out 1+1=2? Okay. Whatever.

I wish we knew when the conversion happened. I know Caiter didn't kill last night unless mod mechanisms are weird, so it had to have been at least two nights ago; this soft clears Genny (who started the Mr. Coopah lynch) and Wally (who tied it up). Actually thought SOV would be a good convert pick with the early attack soft clearing him, but if he is actually chaos I think WZ knows better, ha.

I don't think they would convert a presumed seer and FB was second on Mr. Coopah lynch yesterday, so it moves her lower.

So now I'm stuck with hell of a lot of people who I'm kinda equivocal about being a possible convert, and yesterday was so quiet its hard to read much. LIS is almost too obvious. Farmdoggo's quick quick jump on my Jilary lynch yesterday raised my eyebrow a little. Ny I could see as she is almost unreadable, but she's also prone to being lynched mid-game because of it. WM, wally and Sandy as new players make it less likely. Karab wouldn't be horrible and I don't love that she threw in the bit about being unconvertable when she outed herself as neutral, but I also don't see her doing that as a wolf. Better to stay quiet. Coopah has said a couple things I don't like but the item bit is believable.

All in all, I'd probably be lynching me... if I didn't know I wasn't converted. Which I'm sure you can understand is a really annoying situation to be sitting in. 😛

I think of them all I'm happiest with a lynch farmdoggo.

This is nearly a @Nutmeg length post, but without nearly the level of clarity and conclusion his usually have.
 
PrincessButterCup said:
@LetItSnow I used my ability on you N5. Can you confirm I'm village friendly?
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Well. I can confirm that an ability that is almost always villager was used on me N5, so I can confirm that as of N5 you were probably village if you were the one who used the ability.

Jilary said:
Right, but I thought there was mod info that she's a wolf.

I actually like the idea of converting one of the hydra players, probably trippy. That way you kind of get two wolves for the price of one.
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Ok. I didn't realize it was straight-up mod info.

SummerTheLynx said:
Okay, I am gung to
*********lynch trilt***********
At least with filly we can catch her if she's not producing. Trilt there's going to be no way to know for sure without the lynch, and I am not overly thrilled with responses from today. Definitely want to get @PippyPony in on this as well, and get another side of the coin
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I read this and was like "yeah, yanno, I can get on that" but I still felt some reservation ....

Trilt said:
can you be a little more specific here? Just requires a quick look into your role PM...

You really think wolves would pick literally the most obvious choice in a game where they're being slaughtered? If people didn't lynch me while convert hunting they would be idiots.

So make up your mind, am I a convert or an original wolf? Because I've argued against a Snowy lynch for days.

I don't think I could play WW with @jdh71, would be much too distracted by his good looks.
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... then I read this and I *REALLY* didn't like the bit about the wolves picking the most obvious choice. I mean, hell, conversion choices are odd. People keep converting me even though I'm a craptastic wolf. I got caught, what, 30 minutes after the last time I got converted?

Trilt said:
This is nearly a @Nutmeg length post, but without nearly the level of clarity and conclusion his usually have.
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Hella points for the Nutmeg reference, though.

BTW, I forgot that I had the wiretap last night and used it to tap Caiter. (I forgot because the mods forgot to give me results.)

I just got the results (doesn't seem terribly useful): "You tap Caiter's phone and hear her talking to a man. The conversation sounds tense. She seems to want something from him, but before you can find out what their voices cut out."
 
LetItSnow said:
BTW, I forgot that I had the wiretap last night and used it to tap Caiter. (I forgot because the mods forgot to give me results.)

I just got the results (doesn't seem terribly useful): "You tap Caiter's phone and hear her talking to a man. The conversation sounds tense. She seems to want something from him, but before you can find out what their voices cut out."
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This is very interesting because it sounds very similar to the night previous... and Caiter should have been blocked last night.
 
LetItSnow said:
Well. I can confirm that an ability that is almost always villager was used on me N5, so I can confirm that as of N5 you were probably village if you were the one who used the ability.



Ok. I didn't realize it was straight-up mod info.



I read this and was like "yeah, yanno, I can get on that" but I still felt some reservation ....



... then I read this and I *REALLY* didn't like the bit about the wolves picking the most obvious choice. I mean, hell, conversion choices are odd. People keep converting me even though I'm a craptastic wolf. I got caught, what, 30 minutes after the last time I got converted?



Hella points for the Nutmeg reference, though.

BTW, I forgot that I had the wiretap last night and used it to tap Caiter. (I forgot because the mods forgot to give me results.)

I just got the results (doesn't seem terribly useful): "You tap Caiter's phone and hear her talking to a man. The conversation sounds tense. She seems to want something from him, but before you can find out what their voices cut out."
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I am almost tempted to ask everyone to say male and female on thread and then we can let the person who is able to verify that go for the ones that claim female and are sketchy. But more importantly to ask trilt. Since she is claiming to now have blocked someone who had an action?
 
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Day 6 Lynch Tally:
Caiter (6) - Coopah, Sandy, STL, PBC, Jilary, wally
PBC (2) - KB, Snowy
Trippy (2) - SOV, LIS
Ny (1) - genny
Snowy (1) - Weim
Sandy ()
genny (1) - PBC
Farmdoggo (1) - Trippy

@Caiter92 in the lead
14/17

Lynch deadline is in 30 minutes
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Animal Midwife said:
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Day 6 Lynch Tally:
Caiter (6) - Coopah, Sandy, STL, PBC, Jilary, wally
PBC (2) - KB, Snowy
Trippy (3) - SOV, STL, LIS
Ny (1) - genny
Snowy (1) - Weim
Sandy ()
genny (1) - PBC
Farmdoggo (1) - Trippy

@Caiter92 in the lead
15/17

Lynch deadline is in 30 minutes
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You forgot the unlynchings.
 
SummerTheLynx said:
I am almost tempted to ask everyone to say male and female on thread and then we can let the person who is able to verify that go for the ones that claim female and are sketchy. But more importantly to ask trilt. Since she is claiming to now have blocked someone who had an action?
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It's the entire basis of me soft clearing people on the lynch yesterday. I blocked caiter last night, so she shouldn't have been able to do the kill. If that isn't true, then conversion could have been last night and it completely screws up my previous analysis.

And yes, my role is female. But I don't understand how him wiretapping Caiter as a female means all of them are sketchy.

I think I remember @ddstothecor being fairly handsome on the pic thread, too, and he was a very solid player last game.
 
genny said:
Asking people if they're male or female doesn't work as well if you explain why you're asking. Too much WIFOM.
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His comment was in response to LIS', so I assumed there was something I was missing.

I keep having to edit compliments in, just like @Flim Flam Man in the pokemon game... good times, good player. Hope things are going well.
 
Trilt said:
You really think wolves would pick literally the most obvious choice in a game where they're being slaughtered? If people didn't lynch me while convert hunting they would be idiots.
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If still time and SAR didn't beat me to it,

Lynch Trilt
 
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