Kansas City University (KCU-COM) Discussion Thread 2015 - 2016

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Also, do any current students know the average USMLE step 1 score for KCU? I found COMLEX data online, but not USMLE scores (just pass rates).

Not a current student obviously, but I read somewhere on these forums that KCU's average step 1 score was just under the national average which was ~225 back then. But it was pre-curriculum overhaul. I think we'll have to wait until this summer to see how the c/o 2018 fares on the USMLE for a more accurate view of how this curriculum "prepares" students for boards.
 
I'm on my phone trying to find the specialties we will be rotating through 3rd year but am not having any luck.

Does anyone know what the 3rd year required rotations are at KCU?, do they differ based on what site you are at? And what about 4th year is that entirely electives or do you have 1-2 required rotations that year? Ideally I'm looking for a schedule layout of 3&4th year.
 
I'm on my phone trying to find the specialties we will be rotating through 3rd year but am not having any luck.

Does anyone know what the 3rd year required rotations are at KCU?, do they differ based on what site you are at? And what about 4th year is that entirely electives or do you have 1-2 required rotations that year? Ideally I'm looking for a schedule layout of 3&4th year.

http://www.kcumb.edu/academics/college-of-osteopathic-medicine/curriculum/ check out the years 3 and 4 tabs. I had asked a current student about this before but they said, as far as they know, that part of the curriculum is the same as the old one. It makes sense, that's how the curriculum is set up at most of the individual rotation sites I've checked out for KCU.
 
Excited to win the 1.5 billion tonight so I don't have to pay tuition.
Let's not be selfish now.. How about whichever one of us wins it pays for all of c/o 2020's tuition and covers c/o 2019's loans for helping us out so much this cycle? And it wouldn't hurt to use some of the money to start a full-tuition scholarship fund for future students and call it the "AlteredScale-rship" in honor of our beloved moderator.

Just putting ideas out there... 😀
 
Let's not be selfish now.. How about whichever one of us wins it pays for all of c/o 2020's tuition and covers c/o 2019's loans for helping us out so much this cycle? And it wouldn't hurt to use some of the money to start a full-tuition scholarship fund for future students and call it the "AlteredScale-rship" in honor of our beloved moderator.

Just putting ideas out there... 😀
And maybe a new ping pong table
 
Hey, is anyone going to this school also taking the hpsp route? I'm trying to have financial aid complete my academic yearly statement, but they don't have the numbers for tuition ready yet, and they don't know when the numbers will be ready. I was wondering if any current students have any idea when the school comes up with the numbers. And if there is any current hpsp, I have a few other questions about the process as well. Please PM me, I appreciate it!
 
Nope. This school has had a near 100% match rate with the class size. This is because the school has been constantly outperforming the majority of DO schools in board exams and the clinical rotation sites set up for us always always have inpatient blocks that give us clinical experience necessary to handle residency. Also fourth year is literally all elective time. Mix that in with a decent research faculty, being in a city with two neighboring MD schools that'll let you do research there as well, solid community services provided within the curriculum through Score 1, a ton of leadership opportunities that aren't just student interest groups, and you have some very well qualified applicants going into the match process.

EDIT: Dr Dubin has spoken to us. He expects the year before us (first class to experience te new curriculum) to be in the top 5 DO schools for COMLEX scores. He expects our class to be number one. The curriclum itself is extremely board intensive. From the first block you are given a certain amount of time per question and while it will start with a decent (maybe 25% of the questions) being first order, when you reach Renal there won't be a single first order or second order question, there will be two answers that are essentially right but you need to pick the BEST answer based on the patient's situation.

This is awesome. It really does sound like KCUMB is doing right for the students.
 
One of the most difficult decision but withdrew my acceptance here. I'm glad someone else very deserving will be here, best of luck!
 
Congrats and good luck! How did you end up making the decision?

I broke my decision down to 6 categories.
1. Curriculum -KCU>NSU.
KCU's curriculum is perfect for boards whereas NSU's first year is disorganized. NSU is pretty much out of the league in terms of curriculum.

2. Hospital Rotation/Clinical Experience - NSU> KCU. This is probably the weaker part of KCU. Bigger class size and not much improvement on rotation sites whereas NSU has some very solid sites. Not much moving and driving, so NSU takes it all here.

3. Weather -NSU>KCU.
KC was not shabby but don't even get me started with Florida's weather....

4. Elective Audition/Rural Rotation - KCU > NSU.
KCU gives more free time for elective rotation and NSU has the worst timing with their mandatory rural audition(beginning of 4th year). Not sure who came up with this crazy idea.

5. Research Opportunities - NSU> KCU.
NSU has good amount of NIH grant and the research consortium will be finished before we start next year. Would like to keep some options open.

6. Tuition - KCU>NSU.
KCU's 43k to NSU's 55k, not to mention NSU's expensive living expenses.

These two schools were dead even and I just could not make a decision. My deposit for KCUCOM was due before NSUCOM and my final decision didn't come before KCU's deposit deadline. I was left with NSUCOM but I'm very much happy and grateful to be attending there. On the bright side, we are going to be colleagues! :clap:
 
Nope. This school has had a near 100% match rate with the class size. This is because the school has been constantly outperforming the majority of DO schools in board exams and the clinical rotation sites set up for us always always have inpatient blocks that give us clinical experience necessary to handle residency. Also fourth year is literally all elective time. Mix that in with a decent research faculty, being in a city with two neighboring MD schools that'll let you do research there as well, solid community services provided within the curriculum through Score 1, a ton of leadership opportunities that aren't just student interest groups, and you have some very well qualified applicants going into the match process.

EDIT: Dr Dubin has spoken to us. He expects the year before us (first class to experience te new curriculum) to be in the top 5 DO schools for COMLEX scores. He expects our class to be number one. The curriclum itself is extremely board intensive. From the first block you are given a certain amount of time per question and while it will start with a decent (maybe 25% of the questions) being first order, when you reach Renal there won't be a single first order or second order question, there will be two answers that are essentially right but you need to pick the BEST answer based on the patient's situation.


"Choose the best answer." I hear Dr. Shynra saying that when I took immuno in cob. Lol.
 
The course syllabus doesn't cover the stuff you're actually looking for and/or the material and how it's presented to you may change (because this curriculum is a bit more dynamic than others) so I'm going to give you a break down here.

Week to week schedule can vary a lot. The first two sections (biochem and immuno) essentially follow an 8-12pm schedule. Biochem was two weeks. First midterm on Monday, final on the following Monday of the second week. Immuno followed the same pattern except it was three weeks. There was obviously very little in the way of anatomy and clinical medicine labs since those two subjects are not systems and are intro classes.

When your first system hits (musculoskeletal) then your schedule starts to fill out and goes from a 8-12pm to an 8-5pm schedule. Usually what happens is 2 of the 5 days of the week you'll have back to back two hour labs (either anatomy, clinical medicine, or osteopathic skills). The other days are 8-12pm unless there's more lectures in the afternoon or if you have skill check offs (which are essentially oral exams of things you learn in lab). MSK was 5-6 weeks with one mid term, one final, and an anatomy practical. Next block was cardiopulmonary which was the same testing schedule but way more questions (120 questions for the midterm).

In terms of context, there's no real..pattern. First year covers essentially everything in that system (embryo, physio, anatomy, histo, immuno, biochem, basic clinical med) minus pharm and pathology and clinal dx. That's how essentially every system has worked thus far. The speed and volume ramp up in MSK and it just gets faster and faster, right now in GI, we have had around 20 lectures in 1.5 weeks(300-400 slides) and we have and exam this Friday and anatomy practical next Tuesday. I don't know if I've spent a weekend "off" since school started (and the breaks).

Again when you guys start the curriculum will have been modified based on our reviews of how we did or did not like how it was taught or the sequencing of the lectures was a bit weird.

If you have more questions feel free to PM me!

Stop freaking people out. I'm in his (altered scales) class, and frequently find 1-2 days off on the weekend, and definitely do over breaks. They're called breaks for a reason.
 
Anyone recently checks the curriculum for KCU and the 3rd/4th year is not showing up?
http://www.kcumb.edu/academics/college-of-osteopathic-medicine/curriculum/

Took some screenshots a while ago!

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Does anyone know specifics on the rural medicine honors track? I haven't been able to find details beyond the website saying "coming soon".
 
I emailed Patty over a month ago showing interest because I was put on the waitlist and she never responded...
 
I emailed Patty over a month ago showing interest because I was put on the waitlist and she never responded...
You could also text her and let her know you had emailed and wondered how you should proceed. I started out with a text and then she suggested emailing her. Either way, a text would bring her attention to your email.
 
Current Students: at my interview day one of the 2nd years mentioned that KCU has special tracks for people interested in peds, surgery, and maybe other specialities (these were the ones I remembered) where if you are in good academic standing you can do peds rotations at the childrens hospital or surgery at KU. Can anybody confirm this? I cannot find any information on this.
 
Current Students: at my interview day one of the 2nd years mentioned that KCU has special tracks for people interested in peds, surgery, and maybe other specialities (these were the ones I remembered) where if you are in good academic standing you can do peds rotations at the childrens hospital or surgery at KU. Can anybody confirm this? I cannot find any information on this.

Confirmed! These are implemented and just haven't been shown online because they are still being finalized (specific specialty tracks and what not).
 
Confirmed! These are implemented and just haven't been shown online because they are still being finalized (specific specialty tracks and what not).
So other than the peds and surgery....do you recall any of the others that will/may be offered?
 
Confirmed! These are implemented and just haven't been shown online because they are still being finalized (specific specialty tracks and what not).

Thank you!!! So they should be good to go for the class of 2020??
 
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