Kirby - Game Thread

[WildZoo]

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It was last practice game so about one year.

Uhhhhh... 50/50? But it's roughly the best I have.

Oh

Nvm then lol

 

[Boquise]

Can you elaborate the case on Nate?

I feel like the timeline he tried to drunkenly tell does not make sense but I have felt awkward wording it.

He says he saw his town rand and went straight to bed
then he went a day with not posting at all, until he was drunk
said a tally-ho and then went away again

Like, this is a bit icky to go into so I will drive away from the eh stuff. I have found wolves wanting sometimes to not post at all until they feel forced to. There are hour gaps and Nate's posts felt forced. Now I am waiting to see what Nate does tbh

 

[Boquise]

i am kinda seeing myself in nate's drunken posts when i have randed wolf and felt the need to post lmao

 

[Zenge142]

Can you explain your thought process here tbh
Why Samac if wrong; Why JJJ if right

Dubz and Samac are both off. I can put my finger on it. But there’s enough there that I’m confident they’re not W/W. I think there’s a wolf between the two. And I guess between the two I feel worse about Dubz.

As for Jay, there’s a certain Jay ne sais quoi between them. They’re simpatico in a way I expect from packmates. Distant but not too distant. Cozy but not too cozy. Pushing similar ideas that support a more unified world view.

 

[motheatenlysis]

i am kinda seeing myself in nate's drunken posts when i have randed wolf and felt the need to post lmao

Not to mention, the spelling errors felt disingenuous to how a drunk person would type…

 

[motheatenlysis]

Dubz and Samac are both off. I can put my finger on it. But there’s enough there that I’m confident they’re not W/W. I think there’s a wolf between the two. And I guess between the two I feel worse about Dubz.

As for Jay, there’s a certain Jay ne sais quoi between them. They’re simpatico in a way I expect from packmates. Distant but not too distant. Cozy but not too cozy. Pushing similar ideas that support a more unified world view.

What are your thoughts on the game Jay put together?

 

[Zenge142]

Wow Dubz. Sad react me, instead of laugh reacting my word play?

I worked hard on Jay ne sais quoi. That was comedy gold!

 

[WildZoo]

Me at the future possibility of Zenge misreading me: Hehe that'll be fun to rub in his face

Me when it actually happens: Wait, I'm sad

 

[Zenge142]

What are your thoughts on the game Jay put together?

Useful for everyone, including wolves. Wolves like to know what people are thinking too.

 

[WildZoo]

Wow Dubz. Sad react me, instead of laugh reacting my word play?

I worked hard on Jay ne sais quoi. That was comedy gold!

see above

 

[Animal Midwife]

Day 1 Yeet Tally
Zenge (1) - mayo 23
Pippy (1) - Wilgy 78
mayo (4) - Pippy 50, JJJ 120, Nate 19, moon 34
samac () -
moth (1) - PSV 52
dubz (2) - Zenge 101, samac 110
JJJ (1) - mighty 17
Nate (3) - genny 51, dubz 122, Boq 98
Wilgy (1) - moth 67

14/15
yeet close in ~6 hours

 

[motheatenlysis]

Reason I’m not going for Dubz (atm): PSV came out hard on me, and Dubz pointed out that these are just mothy things. I think if Dubz was wolf, I would be an easy D1 target and she woulda jumped on me.

That being said, I’m feeling sus about PSV. Something just feels wrong about how sure she was of me, now she’s at 50/50, and I don’t think she’s really done much more hunting aside from just calling me out.

So either PSV is a wolf and Dubz isn’t involved, or both are wolves.

I’m leaning towards Dubz being village atm.

 

[Zenge142]

Me at the future possibility of Zenge misreading me: Hehe that'll be fun to rub in his face

Me when it actually happens: Wait, I'm sad

Where are you looking? Who’s your top yeet choice?

 

[WildZoo]

Anyway

Not actually interested in the Nate vote, just wanted to see what would happen if I moved there. Results...unexpected, particularly no one even asking me about it lol

I wanted to give some more thought to mothy if PSV felt strongly there, but with her being unsure I'm leaning on my own read. Still think moth is just noob village.

Think I'm almost at post cap now so uh guess if this is still a thing I'll muster the energy for yeet armor at EOD.

unyeet Nate yeet pippy

 

[Boquise]

Dubz and Samac are both off. I can put my finger on it. But there’s enough there that I’m confident they’re not W/W. I think there’s a wolf between the two. And I guess between the two I feel worse about Dubz.

As for Jay, there’s a certain Jay ne sais quoi between them. They’re simpatico in a way I expect from packmates. Distant but not too distant. Cozy but not too cozy. Pushing similar ideas that support a more unified world view.

ah I see, that was a very enlightening raison d'être, especially the illuminative JJJ sobriquet. Indeed, there can only be One distinguished leader in this fête and at least the Jimbo fella' has not been in his in propria persona. In pursuit of justice, we, followers of truth and light, must be good conversationalist á la outrance and beseech each other as equals walking on this Earth. I thankee for this invigorating tête-à-tête, s'il vous plait

 

[Boquise]

Reason I’m not going for Dubz (atm): PSV came out hard on me, and Dubz pointed out that these are just mothy things. I think if Dubz was wolf, I would be an easy D1 target and she woulda jumped on me.

That being said, I’m feeling sus about PSV. Something just feels wrong about how sure she was of me, now she’s at 50/50, and I don’t think she’s really done much more hunting aside from just calling me out.

So either PSV is a wolf and Dubz isn’t involved, or both are wolves.

I’m leaning towards Dubz being village atm.

this is a good piece of evidence for the Dubz case. Good job Mothy tbh. Since Mighty isn't here you can be my substitute sidekick tbh

 

[genny]

ah I see, that was a very enlightening raison d'être, especially the illuminative JJJ sobriquet. Indeed, there can only be One distinguished leader in this fête and at least the Jimbo fella' has not been in his in propria persona. In pursuit of justice, we, followers of truth and light, must be good conversationalist á la outrance and beseech each other as equals walking on this Earth. I thankee for this invigorating tête-à-tête, s'il vous plait

this is exactly what my cat said earlier this morning, and i gave it the same weight i'm giving your input.

 

[Boquise]

this is exactly what my cat said earlier this morning, and i gave it the same weight i'm giving your input.

are you satirising my satire? What are you, Scary Movie 2?

 

[holdthemayo]

Of my town reads I would state the most trepidation about genny and moonstermash right now, primarily because I don't know either one of them well enough to be a good judge. genny in particular I could stand to wait on, because a little meta from the others of the SDN crowd would go a long way there.

However, some other reads really connect to each other in a way that I think is important.

genny town reads Zenge.
Zenge town reads PSV.
PSV town reads Zenge.

I have these three reads combined into a sort of sheep chain that is holding my world view together. However, I don't have someone telling me they have a town read on genny, and I am conscious of that. So if I am wrong about someone I probably look at her first.

Otherwise, the Zenge/PSV dynamic is one that means a lot to me. I think they seem to understand each other well, which means I trust their views of one another. Only in a world where both are mafia does this break down, and that is only a remote possibility at this point just by the math.

This is a big stretch. Is it that hard to believe that one of them could be a wolf and the other has a D1 read that is off? It dos Pat the wolf anything to village read a villager. Could even cause confusion if the wolf ends up getting yeeted.

that’s shaky logic at best.

 

[Boquise]

prolly gonna stay on nate or vote pippy at this point

 

[WildZoo]

Where are you looking? Who’s your top yeet choice?

Pippy, mayo, moon, samac are my focus atm. Idk if that's in order, but top choice would be...where I'm voting.

I'm saving my last pre-EOD post for a couple hours from now but I'll be lurking 👀

 

[holdthemayo]

PSV's exchange with moth on the previous page looks quite town for PSV. I don't know that moth "slipped" per PSV's assessment, but the accusation looks authentic anyway. And perhaps moth was a bit sheepish in replying to it.

Agreed on PSV coming off village in that exchange.

 

[genny]

are you satirising my satire? What are you, Scary Movie 2?

Spoiler: you got me

 

[Boquise]

Spoiler: you got me

Spoiler

 

[holdthemayo]

Yup!

I see at least trends that look like solving from most players who are present. I'd say that the ones I feel like I may be wrong on are WildZoo, Zenge, or Mighty, but as it stands I wouldn't toss em.

Speaking of shaky logic…

 

[PippyPony]

2.5 hours into D1

So Dubz, when you posted the above, was that actually supposed to go in wolf chat?

What's your reasoning for voting for me now that 2 of your previous sheepadeep reasons have evaporated?

It wouldn't have anything to do with me saying you were giving off weird shade vibes at JJJ in one of my first content posts, I hope.

 

[holdthemayo]

Why is it interesting? @Zenge142



Town reading this response tbh. It is snappy. I dont think wolves react with snappiness at sod1. Town are usually more prone to be defensive of their own game too, ime.



Going to town read this post because it dives right into a clear JJJ read, instead of being wishy-washy around him. Usually something town is more prone to do than wolves who are trying to fit into the thread/find their own thread voices.



Moonster is one of the few players who I don't see it as AI to talk down their game. You are good at werewolf, you dummy tbh



And for the sake of creating associations, I will town read Moonster for having the same conclusion as I


Potentialsheltervet is either wolf with JJJ or just town. I lean towards the latter tbh

I’m feeling good about Boquise after this.

 

[Zenge142]

So Dubz, when you posted the above, was that actually supposed to go in wolf chat?

What's your reasoning for voting for me now that 2 of your previous sheepadeep reasons have evaporated?

It wouldn't have anything to do with me saying you were giving off weird shade vibes at JJJ in one of my first content posts, I hope.

No I think that post was meant for the thread. It’s a meme that if I vote before the last couple hours before close it means I’m wolfing.

 

[Boquise]

I’m feeling good about Boquise after this.

this reminds me that i think samac's re-telling of my shallowness (prior to elaborating on my reads) to be unjust and blasphemous tbh

 

[PippyPony]

Although that shade given, I don't like the speed at which those votes on Dubz accumulated -- people are acting awfully eager beaver to follow Zenge so far. He's good but he's not that good 😛

 

[holdthemayo]

this reminds me that i think samac's re-telling of my shallowness (prior to elaborating on my reads) to be unjust and blasphemous tbh

I have no idea what this sentence means.

 

[PippyPony]

No I think that post was meant for the thread. It’s a meme that if I vote before the last couple hours before close it means I’m wolfing.

Ah

 

[PippyPony]

Are you wolfing?

 

[NateTheLesser]

I feel like the timeline he tried to drunkenly tell does not make sense but I have felt awkward wording it.

He says he saw his town rand and went straight to bed
then he went a day with not posting at all, until he was drunk
said a tally-ho and then went away again

Like, this is a bit icky to go into so I will drive away from the eh stuff. I have found wolves wanting sometimes to not post at all until they feel forced to. There are hour gaps and Nate's posts felt forced. Now I am waiting to see what Nate does tbh

I just didn't have much time for the game yesterday (Saturday) until fairly late. Did some occasional reading of the latest in the afternoon, around p10 or so, which was where you placed your Dubz vote and went to bed. Which I found interesting, because your "meh" reads on Pippy/Mothy and scum read of Dubz seemed pretty outside the consensus (or at least the consensus as represented by Pippy/Mothy being the main wagons at the time). One thing I looked for when I came back later was whether that shook up the wagons at all, and it didn't seem to (my underlying thought being, if Pippy and/or Mothy were a wolf in danger, sheeping you would be a good way to shift attention off of them).

Didn't do a whole lot of backreading, just the few pages that had come in since I last checked in the afternoon, and then dipped into the first few pages of the thread. From the early pages I could see the Pippy sus (Zenge vote is hollow, which was part of my problem with Mayo, and it was basically just her vote and then getting spicy when pressed). Of the other people active on the first few pages I felt least good about samac and Dubz, for reasons that I don't know if I have a solid explanation for yet. With samac, part of what pinged me was opening by talking about how she was planning to play differently, because I think if she's a wolf coming off a very solidly townread game, it could read as a way to get ahead of explaining why she sounds different.

So that's where my head's currently at but I have some significant thread gaps still so I'm working on that.

 

[Boquise]

I have no idea what this sentence means.

oh it means that i dont really agree with how samac re-told my reads. She found them to be shallow and un-original, but now when reading the post again through your quote I dont really see her pov

 

[genny]

Although that shade given, I don't like the speed at which those votes on Dubz accumulated -- people are acting awfully eager beaver to follow Zenge so far. He's good but he's not that good 😛

Is Mayo where you’d vote if you don’t have to worry about self pres?

 

[Boquise]

I just didn't have much time for the game yesterday (Saturday) until fairly late. Did some occasional reading of the latest in the afternoon, around p10 or so, which was where you placed your Dubz vote and went to bed. Which I found interesting, because your "meh" reads on Pippy/Mothy and scum read of Dubz seemed pretty outside the consensus (or at least the consensus as represented by Pippy/Mothy being the main wagons at the time). One thing I looked for when I came back later was whether that shook up the wagons at all, and it didn't seem to (my underlying thought being, if Pippy and/or Mothy were a wolf in danger, sheeping you would be a good way to shift attention off of them).

Didn't do a whole lot of backreading, just the few pages that had come in since I last checked in the afternoon, and then dipped into the first few pages of the thread. From the early pages I could see the Pippy sus (Zenge vote is hollow, which was part of my problem with Mayo, and it was basically just her vote and then getting spicy when pressed). Of the other people active on the first few pages I felt least good about samac and Dubz, for reasons that I don't know if I have a solid explanation for yet. With samac, part of what pinged me was opening by talking about how she was planning to play differently, because I think if she's a wolf coming off a very solidly townread game, it could read as a way to get ahead of explaining why she sounds different.

So that's where my head's currently at but I have some significant thread gaps still so I'm working on that.

nice tbh
You have the polar opposite view to Samac, who found that stuff to be easy and not original. Spicy

 

[NateTheLesser]

prolly gonna stay on nate or vote pippy at this point

I think the last I saw you had pluses and minuses for pippy but didn't feel strongly either way, has that changed?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

@DrWilgy pls. You and @potentialsheltervet read WAY too much into some early **** posts of mine. You took it as a slip when it’s just me being a dumb n00b. The way you’re both pushing feels a bit howly to me.

I mean. To an extent WW is nothing but reading into posts, is it not?
So you think Dr. Wilgy and I both are pushing you in bad faith despite the fact that I'm currently the only one voting you?
(Side note: my phone wanted to autocorrect "wilgy" to "wolfy" 😱)

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

like this is the thing
I have spectated several champ games, juried and played

the times where the team was "the lhf peeps we pushed on d1" are few. I admittedly played in 1 quali when that was precisely the team. So sure. It could happen. And JJJ writes he doubts it to be so. But still. This should inform JJJ that he is likely misclearing someone. Maybe I am being an unfair nitpicker but this is my main point.

And with that I will try to not keep talking about it :wowee:

I don't fault you for having this doubt, and I think you also have a natural disposition toward protecting people in that kind of perceived "LHF" position. You were one of them in yourself in our mutual champs game, so I get it.

I do think there's a good chance I am misclearing someone. That's something I have tried to convey throughout my process, but I think my process has been misunderstood at least by some. If I call 7 people town and one of them is mafia, then I consider that a big victory on Day 1. I'd have six correct town reads! Figuring out the wrong answer, assuming there is one, would be the critical development that defines whether I play my town game well for my living duration in it or whether I don't. That's my task and my challenge.

There has been some anti-Dubz sentiment from people I town read, and I want to take a look into that. She could be my wrong answer.

 

[holdthemayo]

It was an innocent mothy thing in that I find him amusing and found his posts here to be as such and was in agreement with PSV re: the video of him juggling. And now I know that every word you use in this game is looked at with a fine tooth comb.
Also, I'm not wolf aligned with JJJ (that would require me to be a wolf) so...
Yeet JJJ

I’m not sure how being the vote on a packmate who isn’t in danger would prove you weren’t wolf aligned.

That vote might make sense, but not for this reason.

Wigley said I sound wolf-aligned with JJ, I don’t have a read one way or the other on anyone and have to teet someone so.

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

This is a big stretch. Is it that hard to believe that one of them could be a wolf and the other has a D1 read that is off? It dos Pat the wolf anything to village read a villager. Could even cause confusion if the wolf ends up getting yeeted.

that’s shaky logic at best.

Sure, it's always possible that someone is wrong. But we have the whole game to figure that out as a group. I am building a theory of the game that I hope can hold together as things currently sit. When new information arrives that may interfere with anything I have previously stated, then I adapt accordingly -- as anyone else does. I am just very deliberate about explaining my process step by step. I suspect other people do similar to things to this without necessarily saying it out loud.

 

[holdthemayo]

Sure, it's always possible that someone is wrong. But we have the whole game to figure that out as a group. I am building a theory of the game that I hope can hold together as things currently sit. When new information arrives that may interfere with anything I have previously stated, then I adapt accordingly -- as anyone else does. I am just very deliberate about explaining my process step by step. I suspect other people do similar to things to this without necessarily saying it out loud.

I understand building a POE. I don’t need you to continue explaining that. I was pointing out the flaw in basing your core POE off of PSV and Zenge having a special connection which makes it not possible for them to be V/W.

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Dubz and Samac are both off. I can put my finger on it. But there’s enough there that I’m confident they’re not W/W. I think there’s a wolf between the two. And I guess between the two I feel worse about Dubz.

As for Jay, there’s a certain Jay ne sais quoi between them. They’re simpatico in a way I expect from packmates. Distant but not too distant. Cozy but not too cozy. Pushing similar ideas that support a more unified world view.

You could be right about Dubz. If so though, I've been in the proverbial pocket. It happens. I actually suspect there's some chance that Dubz' reads are very similar to mine (see the GTH exercise) as a direct product of that pocket. I have little confidence of that, but I am thinking about it. I kinda tried to create that universe with samac in the previous game.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

If I’m wrong I’d look at Samac. If I’m right, I’d look at Jimmy.

There’s only enough thread space for one thread!mommy.

Okay but like I'm 70% confident on JJJ not being a wolf *even if* he's wrong on Dubz. I'm really not happy with throwing that town read in the garbage.

Dubz and Samac are both off. I can put my finger on it. But there’s enough there that I’m confident they’re not W/W. I think there’s a wolf between the two. And I guess between the two I feel worse about Dubz

Huh almost like I said this EXACT THING a few hours ago

So either PSV is a wolf and Dubz isn’t involved, or both are wolves

Or you were being incredibly sus and I'm looking for wolves because I'm not one 🙄

 

[potentialsheltervet]

What's up with Jay vs mayo?
Bird fite?

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

What's up with Jay vs mayo?
Bird fite?

I have had some suspicions. I acknowledge that I don't know mayo well, and that I could be venturing into a tunnel. I'd appreciate your own view of mayo.

Regarding Dubz: I have never had to solve her before (I was mafia in our only mutual game), so it'd help me if those with suspicions (at least @potentialsheltervet and @Zenge142) could just share a little bit about what brings you there. Is it purely a meta thing? That'd be valid on its own, but if there's a specific thing in the game to reference that'd be super. Otherwise I'll be poking around on my own mostly unable to talk about it. I think I have one post left before the cap lifts.

 

[samac]

Hello post cap induced wall post:

I just think you’ve felt a little off. Not really “solving” more floating and vibing with thread consensus.

Ugh. I just haven’t felt TheDubzWay™️.

what do you think of her direct antagonism towards me?

If I’m wrong I’d look at Samac. If I’m right, I’d look at Jimmy.

There’s only enough thread space for one thread!mommy.

if you’re right on dubz I think you get to be thread mommy.

For one, I don't see how me trying to figure out samac is floating and vibing with thread consensus, and two I'm offended that you don't think I've been solving. I'm trying, I'm gathering village reads. I don't often come out swinging with strong wolf reads d1 and you know that.

Isn’t the last time you poked at me day 1 you were a phasing wolf?

I kind of felt like it was more subtle pushing a Samac is wolfing narrative without getting too deep into it. Same with JJJ

I will say I agree the prod felt light towards me.

if you're wrong, can we look at you?

Do you think wolf zenge would rip up his reading card?

I don't see how pointing out that her moves have felt similar to the last time she wolfed, and calling her wolf in the GTH game is subtle. Are you village reading her?

Not sure what you're referring to with Jay.

Got it, I always have to lead wagons to be village. I can’t be unsure on D1. *nod nod*
For the record I feel like I made reads and stuck to them in my wolf game, ergo tunneling sporty. I didn’t choose Clem when you lead that misyeet, I broke a tie. Right? I think?

No

Do you think zenge = village?

Unyeet Dubz, Yeet Nate

I dont feel like the kirby squad sold this that well
Aside from the wolfy thing I saw Dubz do early today, I dont feel bad about em.

What about Nate screams wolfy

no, we shouldn't look at zenge? or no, don't yeet dubz first?

Fair question

If I get misyoten and y'all turn around and vote Zenge out I will haunt you lol

But I also would prefer not the latter

Okay so village read got it

Dubz and Samac are both off. I can put my finger on it. But there’s enough there that I’m confident they’re not W/W. I think there’s a wolf between the two. And I guess between the two I feel worse about Dubz.

As for Jay, there’s a certain Jay ne sais quoi between them. They’re simpatico in a way I expect from packmates. Distant but not too distant. Cozy but not too cozy. Pushing similar ideas that support a more unified world view.

So if dubz flips village you think I’m the next likely wolf? Why us as a pair specifically.

Not to mention, the spelling errors felt disingenuous to how a drunk person would type…

Hehe
Pls go look at the last game and my drunken middle of the night 20+ post tirade. It felt right to me lol

Me at the future possibility of Zenge misreading me: Hehe that'll be fun to rub in his face

Me when it actually happens: Wait, I'm sad

<3<3

Reason I’m not going for Dubz (atm): PSV came out hard on me, and Dubz pointed out that these are just mothy things. I think if Dubz was wolf, I would be an easy D1 target and she woulda jumped on me.

That being said, I’m feeling sus about PSV. Something just feels wrong about how sure she was of me, now she’s at 50/50, and I don’t think she’s really done much more hunting aside from just calling me out.

So either PSV is a wolf and Dubz isn’t involved, or both are wolves.

I’m leaning towards Dubz being village atm.

Dubz has been known to white knight noobs as a wolf
Ergo saving stoat in stardew 1

Anyway

Not actually interested in the Nate vote, just wanted to see what would happen if I moved there. Results...unexpected, particularly no one even asking me about it lol

I wanted to give some more thought to mothy if PSV felt strongly there, but with her being unsure I'm leaning on my own read. Still think moth is just noob village.

Think I'm almost at post cap now so uh guess if this is still a thing I'll muster the energy for yeet armor at EOD.

unyeet Nate yeet pippy

How has your pippy read evolved when she’s been off thread?

Speaking of shaky logic…

THANK YOU IM NOT CRAZY

Although that shade given, I don't like the speed at which those votes on Dubz accumulated -- people are acting awfully eager beaver to follow Zenge so far. He's good but he's not that good 😛

Oh zenge voting dubz on day 1 with his reading card on the line? Feels good man.

I just didn't have much time for the game yesterday (Saturday) until fairly late. Did some occasional reading of the latest in the afternoon, around p10 or so, which was where you placed your Dubz vote and went to bed. Which I found interesting, because your "meh" reads on Pippy/Mothy and scum read of Dubz seemed pretty outside the consensus (or at least the consensus as represented by Pippy/Mothy being the main wagons at the time). One thing I looked for when I came back later was whether that shook up the wagons at all, and it didn't seem to (my underlying thought being, if Pippy and/or Mothy were a wolf in danger, sheeping you would be a good way to shift attention off of them).

Didn't do a whole lot of backreading, just the few pages that had come in since I last checked in the afternoon, and then dipped into the first few pages of the thread. From the early pages I could see the Pippy sus (Zenge vote is hollow, which was part of my problem with Mayo, and it was basically just her vote and then getting spicy when pressed). Of the other people active on the first few pages I felt least good about samac and Dubz, for reasons that I don't know if I have a solid explanation for yet. With samac, part of what pinged me was opening by talking about how she was planning to play differently, because I think if she's a wolf coming off a very solidly townread game, it could read as a way to get ahead of explaining why she sounds different.

So that's where my head's currently at but I have some significant thread gaps still so I'm working on that.

I planned on trying to play differently given if I was going to go into champs as a sub at some point I wanted some practice but I don’t feel like I’ve hit the thread differently. I guess I have played differently by being unsure and not tunneling the **** out of someone. Maybe I’m growing?

nice tbh
You have the polar opposite view to Samac, who found that stuff to be easy and not original. Spicy

What do you feel about us having different takes?

 

[Zenge142]

Huh almost like I said this EXACT THING a few hours ago

I know! I was mad at you because I tagged you to see if you were around and I wanted to ask you about it, but instead of responding to me, you just started spewing my thoughts all over the thread. Now I look like a chump.

 

[Zenge142]

what do you think of her direct antagonism towards me?

Good to try and build that momentum. Lot to celebrate if you can get a village!samac misyeet