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wallydo said:
Yeah, that's what I was picking up. I went through most of BoB's post last night and those I felt were the most/only significant things they said. Now, in theory, not voting for SAR and backing up SAR could indicate SAR is a wolf. Although yesterday, I also defended SAR because I legit felt her reasonings for game solving less than others was something to believe (because I felt similarly). So even though a few people were on board to lynch SAR last night, I'm still not entirely sure that is the way to go.

Does anyone have any wolf-y dirt on kittens or SAR?? @Doctor-S , did anything happen to you last night?
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I don't have anything on SAR, but I am reading back through posts right now. I thought I defended myself pretty well with my role reveal and I tried to create an item last night that I thought would help clear some things up. My message said I was paralyzed by a "cold liquid". This makes me think that either DrS was really paralyzed on the first night because I had the same semantics in my message, or she is the one doing the paralyzing.
 
wallydo said:
Yeah, that's what I was picking up. I went through most of BoB's post last night and those I felt were the most/only significant things they said. Now, in theory, not voting for SAR and backing up SAR could indicate SAR is a wolf. Although yesterday, I also defended SAR because I legit felt her reasonings for game solving less than others was something to believe (because I felt similarly). So even though a few people were on board to lynch SAR last night, I'm still not entirely sure that is the way to go.

Does anyone have any wolf-y dirt on kittens or SAR?? @Doctor-S , did anything happen to you last night?
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Nothing happened to me last night. BOB must have been the individual who paralyzed me because I cannot think of anyone else in a circus who would have access to some type of paralyzing liquid. With BOB dead, I slept soundly last night.
 
kittenmittens524 said:
I don't have anything on SAR, but I am reading back through posts right now. I thought I defended myself pretty well with my role reveal and I tried to create an item last night that I thought would help clear some things up. My message said I was paralyzed by a "cold liquid". This makes me think that either DrS was really paralyzed on the first night because I had the same semantics in my message, or she is the one doing the paralyzing.
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Fair point about the role reveal. So someone got a kitten item from last night?

Also, I feel like most are thinking that Dr. S is non-wolf at this point. Right? Are you still not convinced?
 
But I think if DrS was the one doing the paralyzing, it wouldn't make much sense to reveal detailed information about the action itself, so I take that back. I believe that DrS was also paralyzed
 
wallydo said:
Fair point about the role reveal. So someone got a kitten item from last night?

Also, I feel like most are thinking that Dr. S is non-wolf at this point. Right? Are you still not convinced?
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I'm convinced, I changed my mind in that next post lol

I was unable to make an item last night because I was paralyzed, so if someone received an item, it wasnt from me
 
putting DocS current ramblings aside, kittens' paralysis does sound similar to DocS N1 experience. I can't imagine BoB had two special abilities. There are other wolves out there, chances are it was one of them.
 
kittenmittens524 said:
I'm convinced, I changed my mind in that next post lol

I was unable to make an item last night because I was paralyzed, so if someone received an item, it wasnt from me
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Kittens, I'm sorry you were paralyzed. Do you get any clues on who is targeting you?
 
wallydo said:
Kittens, I'm sorry you were paralyzed. Do you get any clues on who is targeting you?
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It just said that as I was making my item I felt a cold liquid on my neck and I fell board stiff to the ground and I couldn't do anything for the rest of the night.

So the item I was trying to make didn't get completed🙁
 
Jilary said:
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To all current and future deadies, if you ever want to post something on thread that you aren't sure about, feel free to ask the mods. I once wanted to post a "go villagers" comment after I died, but I died as chaos, so I checked with mods and they said it had the potential to alter opinions on things I said, so they said no, even though they knew where I was coming from. I totally respected and understood their decision. Better to ask first if you are unsure.
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Being chaos is hard especially because some may interpret cheering for chaos as a sign that there are still chaos players left.
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kittenmittens524 said:
It just said that as I was making my item I felt a cold liquid on my neck and I fell board stiff to the ground and I couldn't do anything for the rest of the night.

So the item I was trying to make didn't get completed🙁
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Sads. 🙁
 
hurtem&healem said:
Just to make sure we're reading this the same:
BoB agrees with SAR in one post.
BoB attempts to save/doesn't vote for kittens and SAR in another post.
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BYOB was also the one who suggested the wolves kept kitz alive because she could give them items. So I think that's why BYOB backed her up.

SAR I don't know about. Could have been called innocent because BYOB wanted us to vote DrS could be she's a wolf or she is just a random villager BYOB decided to back. But if anyone has info on SAR that would be great. She said if need be she could reveal her role but that is a last resort plan.
 
Poor @Coopah. 🙁 I'm pretty confident kmittz, killerleaf and Doc S are villagers, but the rest of you I'm not so sure about. I need to look back and see if there's anyone who tried to defend BoB.
 
Sad for the coopster.

SARdoghandler said:
Hmmm... Catching up again. I don't know, my instincts still think hyge is innocent. DrS I'm still waffling on. I'm just so lost!

So I'm just going to go with my gut and even lynch votes out (though fully may waffle and change this between now and deadline)

lynch BoB
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I voted to lynch BoB day 1 (before I waffled all over the place - waffling master here). I highly doubt that if I were a wolf I would be jumping on the group to lynch them on the first day.
 
That's a good point, SAR. I feel like the only way we are going to find another wolf is to systematically call out all of the players left. There's (probably) only 3/14 but at the same time, I don't want villagers to role reveal and get killed. What to do, what to do...
 
wallydo said:
That's a good point, SAR. I feel like the only way we are going to find another wolf is to systematically call out all of the players left. There's (probably) only 3/14 but at the same time, I don't want villagers to role reveal and get killed. What to do, what to do...
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which players do you think should be called out? I think we should start the lynching much earlier today because these last minute scrambles are reducing the amount of time we have to talk things out
 
After looking through my spreadsheet yesterday morning, I was noticing that BoB was linked (in a small way) to several of the deaths. I have a feeling some wolves are people we haven't even called out yet because there would probably be small hints in the votes. So I'm okay with that idea wallydo.
 
kittenmittens524 said:
which players do you think should be called out? I think we should start the lynching much earlier today because these last minute scrambles are reducing the amount of time we have to talk things out
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I'm regoing over posts from D1. I'll let you know if I find anything suspect
 
kittenmittens524 said:
I don't know how that would help us at all, but it sounds like maybe Coop had an alliance with a horse?
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Coopah's first role was a horse...

You need to be careful about sounding a little too naive. It almost got you lynched last time, and it could happen again. I think you are being honest, but just be careful.
 
SkiOtter said:
Coop was a diving horse in their first life
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serher said:
Coopah's first role was a horse...

You need to be careful about sounding a little too naive. It almost got you lynched last time, and it could happen again. I think you are being honest, but just be careful.
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okay got it, just trying to brainstorm. i forgot about the first role.
 
It also may be valuable to note who were the last to waffle to BoB yesterday.

might not mean much given it was all in a span of like 10 minutes :laugh:
 
serher said:
After looking through my spreadsheet yesterday morning, I was noticing that BoB was linked (in a small way) to several of the deaths. I have a feeling some wolves are people we haven't even called out yet because there would probably be small hints in the votes. So I'm okay with that idea wallydo.
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Welp, to get some discussion going, @LyraGardenia , @TrashPanda , @Karabiner13 haven't been called out much, if it all. I realize I'm in the same boat, but I just want to get us talking about it. I also don't want a last minute lynch, and don't believe our mods do either. They want us to be getting better information out from each other earlier in the day (and we should be doing that anyway). Unfortunately, that starts with calling people out.
 
wallydo said:
Welp, to get some discussion going, @LyraGardenia , @TrashPanda , @Karabiner13 haven't been called out much, if it all. I realize I'm in the same boat, but I just want to get us talking about it. I also don't want a last minute lynch, and don't believe our mods do either. They want us to be getting better information out from each other earlier in the day (and we should be doing that anyway). Unfortunately, that starts with calling people out.
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I'd like to hear from these three too.
 
@TrashPanda
I have reasons to believe that DrS is a non-wolf. So in my opinion, every single one of your votes has been for a villager (minus the waffle to BoB near the end of the day yeserday). Have anything to say about that?
 
serher said:
@TrashPanda
I have reasons to believe that DrS is a non-wolf. So in my opinion, every single one of your votes has been for a villager (minus the waffle to BoB near the end of the day yeserday). Have anything to say about that?
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Did TPain-da not switch to hyge that one day? (I can't remember and I'm not on my computer right now)
 
serher said:
It also may be valuable to note who were the last to waffle to BoB yesterday.

might not mean much given it was all in a span of like 10 minutes :laugh:
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This is good advice. I need to go back to look, I'm just about to have lunch here.
 
serher said:
After looking through my spreadsheet yesterday morning, I was noticing that BoB was linked (in a small way) to several of the deaths. I have a feeling some wolves are people we haven't even called out yet because there would probably be small hints in the votes. So I'm okay with that idea wallydo.
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I've also been looking at the votes on my spreadsheet. Here are the people we know who died and their voting records (hoping I kept up my records correctly)

Coopah: voted JMO, then died N1
CDO: waffled from DrS to hyge to JMO, died N1
killer: D1 - LIS, D2 - BoB, died N2
Raf: D1 - BoB, D2 - hurtem to hyge, D3 - kittenmittens to hurtem to AM, died N3
awesomenecessity: D1 - hyge, D2 - JMO, died N2
coopah/JMO: no votes until D4 - DrS, died N4

I can understand killer's death because of what happened yesterday. Raf had also suspected BoB so that might be why she died. Other than that, if there is a pattern there I'm having a hard time figuring it out
 
I'm still getting caught up, but sure.

serher said:
@TrashPanda
I have reasons to believe that DrS is a non-wolf. So in my opinion, every single one of your votes has been for a villager (minus the waffle to BoB near the end of the day yeserday). Have anything to say about that?
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For the record, I also believe that Doctor-S is a villager. (I know yesterday I went back and forth on villager/chaos/neutral/wolf/etc but I do think she's a villager now.)

I feel I've explained my reasons each time, but let me know if you have any questions about my votes. I doubted Doctor-S (along with a lot of other villagers- don't forget a villager tried to kill her, even) largely because of the weird paralysis story and that she claimed to be attacked by both villagers and wolves.

However, now that we know BoB's ability to attack an animal (and I think Doctor-S is an owl or something close to it), it makes sense.
 
SkiOtter said:
Did TPain-da not switch to hyge that one day? (I can't remember and I'm not on my computer right now)
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serher said:
I will double check. It's possible my spreadsheet is wrong.
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I started the attack on hyge. I did not end up voting for her because it was so down to the wire, but I pointed out that she was probably chaos, and asked for clarification. I didn't waffle because 1) I wasn't sure what chaos was and 2) there were more than enough votes to lynch her and 3) I'm slow and that was a really, really fast lynch.

I don't think hyge would have been lynched if I hadn't started the attack on her and pointed out she was chaos.
 
wallydo said:
Welp, to get some discussion going, @LyraGardenia , @TrashPanda , @Karabiner13 haven't been called out much, if it all. I realize I'm in the same boat, but I just want to get us talking about it. I also don't want a last minute lynch, and don't believe our mods do either. They want us to be getting better information out from each other earlier in the day (and we should be doing that anyway). Unfortunately, that starts with calling people out.
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I voted to lynch BoB pretty early on day 3 (when Animal Midwife ended up getting lynched), I feel like that would be a pretty stupid move if I were a wolf. I was also one of the first to go after hyge (voted for her day 1).
 
SkiOtter said:
there could still be someone who can do something based on whether the character is a human or animal.
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Trilt said:
When the circus gathered together in the morning to pack up and plan tonight's performance, they noticed two performers missing once again...

One was found in his room, his flute smashed out of his hand and head bloody from multiple blows.
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Dead is @awesomenessity, Snake Charmer, a villager whose flute could beguile animal roles into private chats.
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How ssssssad.

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Probably not super helpful for anything, but I remembered the question when I was reading the write up.
 
Karabiner13 said:
I've also been looking at the votes on my spreadsheet. Here are the people we know who died and their voting records (hoping I kept up my records correctly)

Coopah: voted JMO, then died N1
CDO: waffled from DrS to hyge to JMO, died N1
killer: D1 - LIS, D2 - BoB, died N2
Raf: D1 - BoB, D2 - hurtem to hyge, D3 - kittenmittens to hurtem to AM, died N3
awesomenecessity: D1 - hyge, D2 - JMO, died N2
coopah/JMO: no votes until D4 - DrS, died N4

I can understand killer's death because of what happened yesterday. Raf had also suspected BoB so that might be why she died. Other than that, if there is a pattern there I'm having a hard time figuring it out
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Sorry I couldn't remember if it was 2 or 3 deaths. I checked my spreadsheet now for this and you're right, it's the two you mentioned. But that's in addition to me having weird feelings about BoB, which made it extra strange. My mistake.
 
serher said:
Sorry I couldn't remember if it was 2 or 3 deaths. I checked my spreadsheet now for this and you're right, it's the two you mentioned. But that's in addition to me having weird feelings about BoB, which made it extra strange. My mistake.
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I was just throwing it out there so we could all have a look and maybe someone would see something I don't. Not arguing against you
 
I have to leave right now, but I look forward to joining back in on this discussion later today.
 
So, after re-going over much of the past few days, here is where I am at.

I'm feeling pretty okay about Panda, Wally, and skiotter. All seem genuine in posts and I haven't picked up on any sketchy behaviour.

I'm feeling somewhat sketchy about mmmdreamerz (though that one is just a gut feeling from D1, I have no back up info), snowshoedog (lots of D2 posts about what wolves might or might not do that made me go hmmm in retrospect), sheltermed (LIS cast some suspicions D1, and LIS was right about BoB), and H&H (raf voted for them D2 and D3 and was killed N3).

None of these are any kind of conclusive (nor anything personal!) but just some thoughts to try and get some discussion going. Any names not mentioned I have no particular feelings one way or another

Also, a correction to my last post. It was actually early in D2 that I voted for BoB.
 
Trilt said:

Officialish Lynch Tally
Dr-S (2) - Coopah, Wally
Mmmdream () -
SARDog (1) - H&H
H&H (1) - Dr-S,
BoB (10) - KL, Serher, Karabou, KM, SkiOtter, Mmmdreamz, SARDog, Panda, Lyra, Snowy

14/17 accounted for. Definitely double check your vote, that was a lot of action in seconds.

Deadline 9PM EST; ~15min remaining.
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This is the last official lynch tally from yesterday that I can find and it might be off due to all the switches (even I had a hard time keeping my spreadsheet updated). Looks like H/H was the last to switch. DrS switched a minute after the lynch closed. Shelter didn't vote. But please check me
 
Karabiner13 said:
This is the last official lynch tally from yesterday that I can find and it might be off due to all the switches (even I had a hard time keeping my spreadsheet updated). Looks like H/H was the last to switch. DrS switched a minute after the lynch closed. Shelter didn't vote. But please check me
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I'm mentally adding this to my list of reasons why H&H might be sketchy
 
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