LMU-DCOM Discussion thread 2008-2009

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First off, congrats to everyone on their acceptances!!! You all will love LMU-DCOM :highfive:


So I was waitlisted here at LMU in February, and after seeing other schools (also being waitlisted), I've really decided that LMU is my first choice. I plan on sending an update of what I've been doing this semester, since I am out of school. What advice does anyone have on what to say? And how should I go about sending it (ie email, mail typed letter,...)? 😕

I am using the quoted post above as a reference in which to answer all questions regarding waitlist stuff, so the advice is for anyone in that situation.

Words of advice:

- Keep the school updated on any activites you are involved in, albeit grades, clinical experience/shadowing, volunteering, teaching, etc. It shows the school you are still interested in them and you are continuing to improve your application. Please don't send them something everyday. Every 2 weeks or so, if you have a VALID update (not going to your doctor who's a DO and getting a check-up). If more than one, send it in a group. This late in the cycle, make yourself stand out, but don't be annoying.

- Send a Letter of Inent (LOI). Basically, its a letter stating you will forego any other acceptance should LMU-DCOM take you off the waitlist and accept you. Personally, I would type it, print it out on nice paper and send it to the school, but emailing or faxing works too.

- Be patient. The wait-list sucks b/c all you do is sit and wonder....its hurry and wait. But trust the process. The number of seats changes b/c you have people who have been accepted, but are still deciding on whether to go or not (and the school has to assume they will take the seat), you still have more interviews in the upcoming weeks, etc. Trust me (and the other DCOMers here on SDN), people are taken off the waitlist, and sometimes a week before school starts. Remember, keep the school updated and let know you WANT to go there.

Regarding my leter of intent, should I mention that I've applied to some post baccalaureate programs (Plan B lol)? Or should I just mention the work I've done the past two semesters, as well as what I plan to do in the upcoming weeks/months?

Um...don't talk about plan B...doesn't look good. Talk about the stuff you've done to show have you've improved. In the background, still apply to those programs, but there is no need to let the school know. Should this application cycle end and you aren't offered a seat, then you can send a letter stating you've applied and been accepted to a post-bach program in order to improve your application for next year. Don't be afraid to keep in touch either.

The best thing ANYONE can do who is applying next year is to attend the OMAC conferences DCOM has. One is in September and the other in December. All the big wigs in admissions are there, so stop by and talk to them. Also, talk to current students and get advice from them.

Things just keep getting worse. Did any of you that have also been put on the wait list receive any type of confirmation from the school when you emailed within the 14 days your interest in remaining on the list? I hope that makes sense...

Anyway, I sent a message within a few days of receiving the letter my interest in remaining on the wait list. I realized last night that I never heard back from the school (I'm such an IDIOT for not checking up on it...I've never had a problem like this before though)....so I get to checking my email and I check my Sent folder....and there is no such email there.

So now I'm freaking out that they didn't get the email. And now it is past the 14 day requirement! I just sent another email explaining the situation, but I'm just really afraid that it won't matter. I'll be heartbroken if this is what completely knocks me out.

If I were you, I would call Janette and talk to her.




Finally, just some other words of wisdom, coming from a 2nd year at LMU-DCOM about med school. First and foremost, remember to take time for yourself, your family and friends...loosen up, laugh, and enjoy the little things in life. There is always time to study (and there never seems to be enough of it), so remember those around you. Hand out with classmates...shoot the breeze with faculty, get to know them, and talk more than medicine. Get involved with clubs and leadership positions. Don't be afraid to try something new or break out of your shell a bit. Look to the 2nd year students (next year's 2nd year students) for advice...they know what you'll be going thru, more than you. Advice from people who have gone thru it is invaluable. We 2nd year students are leaving the school in great hands with the current first year students, they are great people and a great class. They will do a great job at continuing, evolving, and creating the legacy we've left behind. That's one of coolest parts about going to a new school. You have a great opportunity at now only leaving your mark or footprint on a school, but your legacy. Take advantage of that. Your voice and ideas will never be heard louder, so act on them. Make the school yours. But remember, you'll also take some crap from the class above you. It comes with the territory with being the new kids on the block. Don't worry, its not malicious, its fun. Best of all, you get to do it to the class after you. If you do all of these things, I guarantee you will have some of the best years of your life in medical school.

Oh....one last thing....don't be a gunner.....they are a**holes. :slap:
 
The best thing ANYONE can do who is applying next year is to attend the OMAC conferences DCOM has. One is in September and the other in December. All the big wigs in admissions are there, so stop by and talk to them. Also, talk to current students and get advice from them.


I went to an OMAC conference in December and since I am from alabama and came to visit the school at a time other than the interview... they could tell I was very interested...LMU-DCOM was always my number one choice and my visit cemented it, and I made sure to let them know that. I was on the lower end of the MCAT scale and I truly believe that my attending the OMAC conference helped get me an intervie.... I honestly think I would not have had the chance if I had not met faculty, admissions, and taken advice from current students. My dream came true and I was accepted. It's too late for people this cycle to attend an OMAC, but if any future applicants are lurking take my advice. Good luck to those still waiting.:xf:
 
Have any of you current students taken the speed reading course that will be offered April 4th and 5th? It's nice to see Dr. D'Eramo plug it, but what do you guys think? I'm considering it as an opportunity to check out the area more closely and meet more students in addition to improving skills.

http://www.execuread.com/speed-reading-courses-at-debusk-college-of-osteopathic-medicine.htm


I didn't take it (little short on cash right now!), but a few of my friends did and said it was very helpful. If you are going to be in the area, it can't hurt to take it. It might make you a more efficient studier when you start school!
 
so i have an interview coming up and i was wondering what the day itself was like. i read in one of the posts that bob the tourguide picks you up..is that the case or can you drive on your own. also, is there a coatcheck or a place for students to leave their coats/purse/etc? how long does the campus tour last? i know these are random neurotic questions on my part, but i cant help myself since i am so nervous. any other advice/what to expect/etc. much appreciated.
 
so i have an interview coming up and i was wondering what the day itself was like. i read in one of the posts that bob the tourguide picks you up..is that the case or can you drive on your own. also, is there a coatcheck or a place for students to leave their coats/purse/etc? how long does the campus tour last? i know these are random neurotic questions on my part, but i cant help myself since i am so nervous. any other advice/what to expect/etc. much appreciated.
 
so i have an interview coming up and i was wondering what the day itself was like. i read in one of the posts that bob the tourguide picks you up..is that the case or can you drive on your own. also, is there a coatcheck or a place for students to leave their coats/purse/etc? how long does the campus tour last? i know these are random neurotic questions on my part, but i cant help myself since i am so nervous. any other advice/what to expect/etc. much appreciated.

Here's the basic gist of the day...

-check-in with light breakfast snacks and drinks (Bob will bring you over on the shuttle but if you want to drive, that's fine too)
-presentations on curriculum, financial aid, etc by various admistrative faculty and professors
-3 30min interview sessions (you only participate in one though)
-building tour with students
-lunch with students
-housing tour with Bob

Throughout all of this, your stuff is safe and sound in the conference room that you sit in during presentations and while waiting for your interview slot, so no need to worry about that. Regardless, I wouldn't bring anything personal in with you besides the bare necessities.

Other advice: don't sweat the small stuff. 🙂
 
Need for some info please
Those of you at LMU-DCOM
1- how are the stats of test for the first and second year students?
2- are many students taking the USMLE?
 
Need for some info please
Those of you at LMU-DCOM
1- how are the stats of test for the first and second year students?
2- are many students taking the USMLE?


I'm not sure I understand what you're asking with #1. Can you clarify?

As for #2, a significant number of my classmates that I know plan to take both the COMLEX and USMLE Step 1 this summer.
 
yay! i got an interview!! is it really a 2 hour drive from the airport to the campus? does GPS work in that area?
 
I'm not sure I understand what you're asking with #1. Can you clarify?

As for #2, a significant number of my classmates that I know plan to take both the COMLEX and USMLE Step 1 this summer.


sorry I can't even understand myself what I was asking

What is the percentage of students who take and pass the USMLE or COMLEX in the first and second year.
I heard that in some schools, about 80 to 90 percent of students pass it at their first time. How about LMU-DCOM?
 
sorry I can't even understand myself what I was asking

What is the percentage of students who take and pass the USMLE or COMLEX in the first and second year.
I heard that in some schools, about 80 to 90 percent of students pass it at their first time. How about LMU-DCOM?

I am not sure if I totally understood your question here. students can only take USMLE/COMLEX after they finish their first 2 years ( First and second year). Moreover, LMU-DCOM is a new school so this summer is the first time for them to take exams, therefore, there is no stats yet.
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yay! i got an interview!! is it really a 2 hour drive from the airport to the campus? does GPS work in that area?

Yes, I think so since I drove from Atlanta, GA to LMU-DCOM easily so I think yes.
 
a significant number of my classmates that I know plan to take both the COMLEX and USMLE Step 1 this summer

Thanks for letting us know. Just out of curiousity, why do y'all want to take both? is there any advantage for taking both of them since I know now allopathic residencies are willing to take COMLEX alone?
Thanks very much.😉\🙂
 
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Hello people,
I applied FAFSA and got the SAR report back. Do I need to send it or any financial documents to school? I am new to the loan process, so can anyone tell me what happen after I accept the loans from Financial Award Letter. Do I get the loans as it's a check pay to me or it's automatically paid to school? What happen if I want some loan money to buy textbooks online rather than buy them at bookstore (money save), then what I need to tell them?

I really appreciate for your help🙂
 
yay! i got an interview!! is it really a 2 hour drive from the airport to the campus? does GPS work in that area?
Knoxville airport? Yes.
GPS and Sat radio, yes.
FM radio and cell phones, sometimes.

Your GPS will tell you to come up Hwy33 from Knoxville.
It lies.
Take I75 from Knoxville up to Hwy63 and come across that way. Much easier drive. Much less chance of getting stuck behind a tractor or school bus.
 
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sorry I can't even understand myself what I was asking

What is the percentage of students who take and pass the USMLE or COMLEX in the first and second year.
I heard that in some schools, about 80 to 90 percent of students pass it at their first time. How about LMU-DCOM?


The class of 2011 will be the first class to take Step 1.

So, no stats on that yet.


I'd put the time of airport to LMU at closer to 1.5 hours, especially if you stay off that Hwy 63. That way takes forever. (I'll just add that I hadn't seen Jason's edited comment before I posted this. That being said, I stand by what I said. The 75 to 63 route adds at least 30 minutes to your drive in my experience...and, it's boring.)

GPS, pretty sure it works. Haven't needed one.
 
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While allopathic residencies will "take" the COMLEX alone, it is not directly comparable to the USMLE, so I'm considering taking both to show that I'm an equally strong candidate as an allopathic student, should I decide to apply to an MD program (to clear any doubt from their mind). Also, at the National Spring SOMA Meeting a few weeks ago, we were asked to report allopathic residency programs who are discriminating against DO applicants (by doing things like asking for tuition), which makes me believe that it has been a problem for some students. Not that I would want to end up in a program that doesn't think I'm a worthy candidate, but doing well on the USMLE if you plan to apply to MD residencies may prevent this.

That being said, if you have good grades, good COMLEX scores and have a strong application otherwise, iand you do poorly on the USMLE you are shooting yourself in the foot. I'm only going to take it if I'm confident I will do well and am fully prepared.

But you have PLENTY of time to worry about that. Just do well on your exams first, then you can talk to your advisor about things like this 😉


a significant number of my classmates that I know plan to take both the COMLEX and USMLE Step 1 this summer

Thanks for letting us know. Just out of curiousity, why do y'all want to take both? is there any advantage for taking both of them since I know now allopathic residencies are willing to take COMLEX alone? Lastly, do you think school stuffs acurately prepare for board exams? I am studying COMLEX books, high yields and Goljans lectures and I think they are so helpful. Once again, I humbly ask this question without of any intention to brag or something. BTW, I am matriculating in LMU-DCOM in this fall.

Thanks very much.😉\🙂
 
While allopathic residencies will "take" the COMLEX alone, it is not directly comparable to the USMLE, so I'm considering taking both to show that I'm an equally strong candidate as an allopathic student, should I decide to apply to an MD program (to clear any doubt from their mind). Also, at the National Spring SOMA Meeting a few weeks ago, we were asked to report allopathic residency programs who are discriminating against DO applicants (by doing things like asking for tuition), which makes me believe that it has been a problem for some students. Not that I would want to end up in a program that doesn't think I'm a worthy candidate, but doing well on the USMLE if you plan to apply to MD residencies may prevent this.

That being said, if you have good grades, good COMLEX scores and have a strong application otherwise, iand you do poorly on the USMLE you are shooting yourself in the foot. I'm only going to take it if I'm confident I will do well and am fully prepared.

But you have PLENTY of time to worry about that. Just do well on your exams first, then you can talk to your advisor about things like this 😉


Why would they ask for tuition? do we pay for residency now too?
 
I am not sure if I totally understood your question here. students can only take USMLE/COMLEX after they finish their first 2 years ( First and second year). Moreover, LMU-DCOM is a new school so this summer is the first time for them to take exams, therefore, there is no stats yet.
🙂

I though the exams were to be taken in the first and second years. Thanks
 
😀 Hi guys,
I am new to the loan applying process, so can anyone tell me what are the next steps after I already applied FAFSA and got the SAR report?

Thanks guys
 
a significant number of my classmates that I know plan to take both the COMLEX and USMLE Step 1 this summer

Thanks for letting us know. Just out of curiousity, why do y'all want to take both? is there any advantage for taking both of them since I know now allopathic residencies are willing to take COMLEX alone?
Thanks very much.😉\🙂

MissDocHopeful really covered the bases well with her answer, but I still wanted to plug my opinion into the conversation. I really think taking both USMLE and COMLEX depend on which residency you are looking at, in terms of specialty. Things like IM, FP, Peds, Ob/Gyn, etc, then I would only take COMLEX, things like Surg, EM, Ortho, Rads, etc. I would think about taking both, only b/c they are more competitive and you give yourself the best chances. I have found some programs that take only USMLE, even in cities that have osteopathic schools. Yes, any specialty has its own osteopathic residency, and as I do more research on them, the osteopathic programs are very strong. But if you want to do residency in a city that has a lot of allopathic programs, then you are best off taking both, unless its one of the specialties mentioned above.
 
MissDocHopeful really covered the bases well with her answer, but I still wanted to plug my opinion into the conversation. I really think taking both USMLE and COMLEX depend on which residency you are looking at, in terms of specialty. Things like IM, FP, Peds, Ob/Gyn, etc, then I would only take COMLEX, things like Surg, EM, Ortho, Rads, etc. I would think about taking both, only b/c they are more competitive and you give yourself the best chances. I have found some programs that take only USMLE, even in cities that have osteopathic schools. Yes, any specialty has its own osteopathic residency, and as I do more research on them, the osteopathic programs are very strong. But if you want to do residency in a city that has a lot of allopathic programs, then you are best off taking both, unless its one of the specialties mentioned above.

Thanks to MissDocHopeful, nascardoc and to all whom answered my question. I know each person has his/her own choice of specialty, but with the majority people in class, which specialty is the most favorite one among everyone? Lastly, within the same field, the one from osteopathic is relatively easier to get in compare to allopathic ( Osteo Rad vs. Allo Rad), is it true?
 
yay! i got an interview!! is it really a 2 hour drive from the airport to the campus? does GPS work in that area?

I have AT&T and drove in to harrogate. GPS on my iphone worked fine except for a few spots on some of the roads through the hills, and through the tunnel between my hotel/campus. I printed directions ahead of time, and I would definitely recommend that esp if you're driving in at night. Everything is pretty easy to locate during the day, but after a 7 hour drive and arriving at night I was glad I wasn't going to get lost in the middle of a one stoplight town :laugh:
 
I have AT&T and drove in to harrogate. GPS on my iphone worked fine except for a few spots on some of the roads through the hills, and through the tunnel between my hotel/campus. I printed directions ahead of time, and I would definitely recommend that esp if you're driving in at night. Everything is pretty easy to locate during the day, but after a 7 hour drive and arriving at night I was glad I wasn't going to get lost in the middle of a one stoplight town :laugh:

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Thanks to MissDocHopeful, nascardoc and to all whom answered my question. I know each person has his/her own choice of specialty, but with the majority people in class, which specialty is the most favorite one among everyone? Lastly, within the same field, the one from osteopathic is relatively easier to get in compare to allopathic ( Osteo Rad vs. Allo Rad), is it true?

In our class, it seems as if EM is the most popular, with IM, FP, Ortho, and Surg (if I remember correctly...i know EM is right). In terms of one being easier than the other, its hard to say. People will say osteo is easier b/c there are less people competing for the spot since its only osteo students, but there are less total osteo spots, so the competition is even among all of them. I personally don't think osteo rads is easier than allo rads and I wouldn't assume that either. You definitely have to approach both with the same vigor. Now both allo and osteo will have easier or harder residency programs to get into, so you will have to do research to find those within the field you are interested.
 
we all become doctors. some patients don't even know the difference. who cares
 
Hello my fellow LMU-DCOMers. My land lady has 3 places to rent for this upcoming year and she is looking to rent them to the medical students. She has a 3 bedroom house for rent in Middlesboro, KY, either to 1 person who wants to rent the entire thing or for use between 3 people, and she also has 2 apartments for rent in Harrogate within walking distance to the school. I live 2 houses down from the house in Middlesboro and it is about 5 minutes away from the school. It is a brick house right beside a produce store with a baptist church across the street. Dairy Queen is next door as well as a Food Lion. It is very convenient! If anyone is interested, please call Judy at (606) 499-3340. The land ladies are the best to rent from and you'll have an wonderful time renting from them.

Fortunately for me and my arse, I just put a deposit down on an apartment. Living right next to Dairy Queen would be a sin. :laugh:
 
Fortunately for me and my arse, I just put a deposit down on an apartment. Living right next to Dairy Queen would be a sin. :laugh:


May I ask where you found your apartment? I'm having a really hard time finding apartments or townhouses close to the campus. I can't live in the DCOM apartments because I own a dog.
 
Does anyone know of any good/recommended real estate agents in or around Harrogate?
 
Does anyone know of any good/recommended real estate agents in or around Harrogate?

Just met a local realtor, Steve Mason, with Century21. Also has a small flower shop here in town. Seems like a pretty nice guy.
423.869.3335
[email protected]
 
Just met a local realtor, Steve Mason, with Century21. Also has a small flower shop here in town. Seems like a pretty nice guy.
423.869.3335
[email protected]

I figured that an agent could help with both purchasing and renting? Don't know which one I want to do yet.
 
I figured that an agent could help with both purchasing and renting? Don't know which one I want to do yet.
Agents generally don't help much with renting unless they have rental units of their own. There's nothing in it for them.
 
I figured that an agent could help with both purchasing and renting? Don't know which one I want to do yet.

Actually, it seems strange, but the real estate agents really do seem to handle rentals down here in addition to sales (way different than where I'm from!) and they get some sort of commission out of it. You may want to friend "dcom houses" on Facebook to check out listings there to cut out the middle men. There's also some listed at SGA's new website: www.dcomdo.com . There should be a lot more available for your class than there was for ours since the OMS-IIs are moving out. Like I mentioned in an earlier post, though, be sure to get references from your potential landlord so you can contact current renters. Find out if he or she has rented to DCOM students in the past. It's important that you end up in an environment that's conducive to studying. The last thing you want to be dealing with mid-semester is an uncooperative landlord and having to move.
 
Just to say missdochopeful had some excellent advice! See if you can get in contact with the current renters. Advice I wish I had thought about last year.
 
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Has anyone who interviewed March 9th or 10th heard anything back about acceptances? I interviewed the 10th and they said they would review our files last Thursday. Just wondering...
 
I received an e-mail from Janette today saying Dean Stowers signed the letters and they would be mailing them out tomorrow. I heard he sometimes calls accepted students, but I haven't received a phone call. I hope that's not a bad thing. Anyway, good luck. Let me know if you hear something.
 
May I ask where you found your apartment? I'm having a really hard time finding apartments or townhouses close to the campus. I can't live in the DCOM apartments because I own a dog.

Sorry, just now seeing this post. I really lucked up with my apartment. It's quaint and livable - nothing fancy. But he was the first to allow me to bring my dog, so I jumped at the opportunity. I, too, found mine on dcomdo.com. All I can say is keep watching that and the DCOM houses profile on facebook. Contact realtors. Heartland Real Estate called me yesterday to see if I'd found a place, so maybe he has some openings.

And good luck. I know exactly how hard it is to find a place with a dog in tow.
 
I just got a call from the Dean and I'm IN! LMU-DCOM here I come. Any advice on what I should be doing now? Now that I'm in, I really don't know what to do! Housing, financial aid, non-refundable deposit? Help!
 
I just got a call from the Dean and I'm IN! LMU-DCOM here I come. Any advice on what I should be doing now? Now that I'm in, I really don't know what to do! Housing, financial aid, non-refundable deposit? Help!

Yay!

The letter will include information on the deposit. After you pay that, they'll send you a matriculation packet with things to sign and directions/forms for a physical, as well as a separate financial aid packet.

We're in the same boat on housing. There are a few ads out, whether posts on here or on the SGA site. I need to go visit to get an idea what's there.
 
Do you know where I could look for students who want roomates? I really would like to live with someone instead of staying by myself. I need a good study partner.
 
Do you know where I could look for students who want roomates? I really would like to live with someone instead of staying by myself. I need a good study partner.

Join the 2013 Facebook group and post that you're looking for a roommate.
 
do LMUDCOM students get federal aid? how is everyone paying for education?
 
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do LMUDCOM students get federal aid? how is everyone paying for education?

Yes. Most people are paying for school with federal loans and Grad PLUS loans. Some decided to join the military, and thus get their education paid for.
 
Yes. Most people are paying for school with federal loans and Grad PLUS loans. Some decided to join the military, and thus get their education paid for.

I thought you couldnt get federal loans until the school is fully accredited?
 
I thought you couldnt get federal loans until the school is fully accredited?


That's not the situation.

There is a program that is more difficult to obtain monies from but since I cannot remember exactly which one it is, I'm not going to make any guesses.

That being said, yes, you can go the military route or take out federal loans. I know those two for a fact.
 
Does any one knows what is the maximum loan a student can take? does this includes Grad plus?
 
Does any one knows what is the maximum loan a student can take? does this includes Grad plus?

The maximum loans you can take out is the cost of education, which is listed somewhere on the DCOM site. I think it's around $55,000? Don't quote me on that. This included Grad PLUS, as there is a limit to how much in federal loans you can take out (around $42,000) When you get your financial aid information, it will have the maximum amount you can take out in federal loans per year on there, and then the difference between that and the cost of education will be how much you can take out in Grad PLUS loans.
 
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