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[Kam325]

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So there was 2 redirects in 1 night?

No, STL was redirected last night.

 

[heyyimhayley]

So anyway, my point is Im inclined to believe her that she didn't have knowledge of the block. Unless im mistaken about the reasoning for the Kam lynch, then please correct me.

 

[Skimble]

STL has addressed redirection taking precedence over blocking earlier in the game (I think, will go back and quote). I think that's likely what happened N2, our redirector could confirm but I doubt they'd want to do so publicly.

I wasn't redirected n2, I was redirected n3.

Here, Jil. I was redirected N2, but I didn't get any sort of notification about a block.

Well then moss messed up because I was told it worked.

Yeah, I'm confused by blocker and lynch avoidance in one role. And why Jilary never mentioned blocking yesterday.

lynch Jilary

Because I didn't want to reveal everything and I knew the lynch wouldn't go through. I thought one of you idiots would have seered me last night, as I'm sure there is more than one.

This is my last post for the night and maybe the game. please look into those lynching me, there are wolves among them.

 

[dyachei]

True. Gah this game is messing with my head. I also trust genny thus far, so I'm going to unlynch kam and lynch jil

I want everyone to understand that the following is a joke. It is meant to be taken as a joke and there's nothing malicious behind it:

Why did the noob cross the road?

Spoiler: Punchline

They don't know either

 

[SummerTheLynx]

Hmm. Well I wasn't told anything about the block. And if I was lying about it I wouldn't have tagged you to corroborate. Modly inconsistency, I suppose. But your action did go through?

Aye

 

[dyachei]

unlynch jil

lynch gwen

 

[Skimble]

So there was 2 redirects in 1 night?

Sounds like it to me. Both STL and I, maybe the redirecter was boosted?

 

[DVMDream]

I was notified that I was redirected N2. I was not told anything about a block. But if Jil really did block me, STL's post explains why I didn't hear about it. He said he was both blocked and redirected but the block did nothing. I'm assuming Jil told him she blocked him and that's how he knew. @SummerTheLynx or @Jilary can either of you verify?

Hmm... who were you redirected to? Are you able to reveal that....

I mean I can only think of 3 (ok 4) things that can explain the inconsistency, two don't have to do with someone lying....

 

[Kam325]

Hmm... who were you redirected to? Are you able to reveal that....

I mean I can only think of 3 (ok 4) things that can explain the inconsistency, two don't have to do with someone lying....

Yep, redirected to Ally.

 

[raf2769]

I want everyone to understand that the following is a joke. It is meant to be taken as a joke and there's nothing malicious behind it:

Why did the noob cross the road?

Spoiler: Punchline

They don't know either

I take it as a joke because this is literally how I feel right now. But hey, I wanted to start playing the game so I could learn how to play and then eventually get better. 😀

 

[DVMDream]

I guess I also don't understand how a block wouldn't work if you were also redirected. Even if the redirection is prioritized... shouldn't results read as...

"You were going to act upon a, but were redirected to b, however that doesn't even matter because someone flashed you their tits and you forgot what you were going to do anyway."

 

[Skimble]

Ok, I guess someone believes me because I was just told Dy is a faction of her own, poss lone wolf, chaos or neutral.

Unlynch Kam

Lynch Dy

I don't ecpect anyone to believe me, but remember it when I die a villager.

 

[Trilt]

I guess I also don't understand how a block wouldn't work if you were also redirected. Even if the redirection is prioritized... shouldn't results read as...

"You were going to act upon a, but were redirected to b, however that doesn't even matter because someone flashed you their tits and you forgot what you were going to do anyway."

🤣

I'm pretty sure that's what STL was complaining about in his initial post... it's somewhat lost in the accent.

 

[dyachei]

Ok, I guess someone believes me because I was just told Dy is a faction of her own, poss lone wolf, chaos or neutral.

Unlynch Kam

Lynch Dy

I don't ecpect anyone to believe me, but remember it when I die a villager.

not a wolf, am on village side. so yes, technically a different faction, but for all intents and purposes - village

 

[vetmedhead]

I'm not excited about any of these lynches so at this point I am leaning towards Gwen just because she seems like the safest option. She would have been iseful if a villager but not so much anymre now that she's outed that ability.

And it is strange that she would just go ahead and remove the usefulness from her ability by so readily and publicly revealing it. What was the thinking there? I'm still waiting to cast a vote but thats where I'm at right now.

I would argue she could still be useful with an outed ability like that. She could be a villager that makes it to end game because wolves wouldn't risk themselves and it's been discussed in several other games that villagers are always important/useful because they count for village numbers. Of course, that all depends on whether gwen's claim is true or not. I just wanted to say I disagree with your reasoning on leaning toward her though - it's never a "safe" option to lynch people you think are villagers when their abilities aren't as useful anymore.

 

[TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo]

not a wolf, am on village side. so yes, technically a different faction, but for all intents and purposes - village

Can you win alongside villagers or does it have to be on your own?

 

[Trilt]

Probably WIFOM, but to me Dy is reading as villager-y just because of how much she has been up my ass. It's not the same Dy as last game where she was much more go with the flow.

We've only killed magical creatures, and only had one colour (green?). I could see factions.

I'm really liking this Jil lynch less and less. Blocking me last night makes sense from the village side because I was under suspicion.

 

[dyachei]

Can you win alongside villagers or does it have to be on your own?

I cannot win unless village wins

 

[allyphoe]

Yep, redirected to Ally.

Night 2, right? My writeup for the night said I heard some faint singing.

 

[Trilt]

Can you win alongside villagers or does it have to be on your own?

I mean, it's not like she'd tell you otherwise...

 

[Trilt]

Probably WIFOM, but to me Dy is reading as villager-y just because of how much she has been up my ass. It's not the same Dy as last game where she was much more go with the flow.

you know what, this is a lie. She jumped on SOV pretty hard. I don't know why she's feeling village-y to me, tbh.

 

[finnickthedog]

I would argue she could still be useful with an outed ability like that. She could be a villager that makes it to end game because wolves wouldn't risk themselves and it's been discussed in several other games that villagers are always important/useful because they count for village numbers. Of course, that all depends on whether gwen's claim is true or not. I just wanted to say I disagree with your reasoning on leaning toward her though - it's never a "safe" option to lynch people you think are villagers when their abilities aren't as useful anymore.

Bear with me because I'm stuck typing on a phone here but I mean safest option as in "if we had to lose a villager, I'd rather lose this one". Losing a villager is never good, but some losses are worse than others.

I'm not about to lynch her solely because I think her ability is now useless. I'm not sure she's a villager in the first place. I still consider her questionable.

 

[dyachei]

"you must live to the end of the game with the villagers in order to win"

 

[TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo]

We've only killed magical creatures, and only had one colour (green?). I could see factions.

I'm not really sure I see a whole faction heavy set up. So far a lot of people have already claimed "villager _____". No one has mentioned win conditions (not that they really would, but in Peter Pan even on D1 people were saying they thought it was a faction game). I did not have any stated win conditions, at least. If Gwen's info is correct, neutral player is in effect. So villager, wolf, neutral. Seems like a pretty standard game.

 

[TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo]

"you must live to the end of the game with the villagers in order to win"

How is this different than just being a villager?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Lynch Jil

 

[Kam325]

How is this different than just being a villager?

She probably has to satisfy some other condition as well. Some chaos can win with either side but only if they've killed all of whateverwhich category first, etc.

 

[vetmedhead]

How is this different than just being a villager?

It's a villager who's antisocial?

In actuality though I'm not a fan of any of this. Non-villager parties should pretty much always get lynched because they don't count for villager numbers and often "you can only win if the villagers do!" actually means "you will win instead of the villagers".

 

[DVMDream]

Bear with me because I'm stuck typing on a phone here but I mean safest option as in "if we had to lose a villager, I'd rather lose this one". Losing a villager is never good, but some losses are worse than others.

I'm not about to lynch her solely because I think her ability is now useless. I'm not sure she's a villager in the first place. I still consider her questionable.

I really think this line of thinking needs to GTFO.... I don't know where it started from, part of me think it was Promo with me in that one game that I can't remember the name of right now, BUT, losing a villager is not good. Period. End of. No more discussion needed there.

Now, I get what you are trying to say here, if we do end up lynching a villager there are certain abilities that are "better" losses than others... a village blocker is a better loss than a village seer, but the goal is to try to find wolves. And if you are 99% certain someone is a villager, even if their role is now meaningless, WTF would you vote for them? That would not make sense.

I get that in this case we aren't even that sure if gwen is a villager, that is still up in the air. But this whole... "well, I think that person is probably a villager, but it isn't like their ability is helpful anymore so let's just lynch them" thinking needs to GTFO.

 

[dyachei]

She probably has to satisfy some other condition as well. Some chaos can win with either side but only if they've killed all of whateverwhich category first, etc.

Incorrect. That's really the only condition.

How is this different than just being a villager?

I asked myself that the day I read it, too

 

[Trilt]

I'm not really sure I see a whole faction heavy set up. So far a lot of people have already claimed "villager _____". No one has mentioned win conditions (not that they really would, but in Peter Pan even on D1 people were saying they thought it was a faction game). I did not have any stated win conditions, at least. If Gwen's info is correct, neutral player is in effect. So villager, wolf, neutral. Seems like a pretty standard game.

The fact that we have "villager blah dee blah" is actually something that makes me feel more OK about it. It's kind of weird nomenclature if we're dealing with just a typical game.

Still think Gwen was super sketch. Still think Jilary is making more and more sense as a villager. Still could be very very wrong. And I like neutral players as a concept, so perhaps I'm a little more go with the flow about non-villager numbers.

 

[LetItSnow]

Oh I know, I have been blocked and not mentioned it before as well. However, I would like to hear her reasons why.

I stated I was not comfortable lynching one of the frontrunners because I think they are all weak/bad lynches. I'm looking for something else to go off of and haven't seen much so far. Wolves are playing too well 😉

So lemme see if I understand it. There are actual <reasons> to lynch either of the two front-runners. I'm not saying they are great reasons, but they ARE reasons.

You won't vote for them because you think it's bad, you haven't seen much to go off of, so .... what..... you're just going to sit it out?

Who do YOU think are the top 3 wolfiest players right now, and why? And why are you not voting for one of those top 3 on your personal list?

The above-quoted BBC post is wolfy as hell.

 

[LetItSnow]

not a wolf, am on village side. so yes, technically a different faction, but for all intents and purposes - village

Not for ALL intents and purposes. If you aren't a villager, you don't count for villager numbers.

 

[dyachei]

Not for ALL intents and purposes. If you aren't a villager, you don't count for villager numbers.

fair

 

[morninqlory]

***lynch Gwen***

 

[TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo]

So lemme see if I understand it. There are actual <reasons> to lynch either of the two front-runners. I'm not saying they are great reasons, but they ARE reasons.

You won't vote for them because you think it's bad, you haven't seen much to go off of, so .... what..... you're just going to sit it out?

Who do YOU think are the top 3 wolfiest players right now, and why? And why are you not voting for one of those top 3 on your personal list?

The above-quoted BBC post is wolfy as hell.

Jilary I believe to be villager because I have been talking to her in PM, found her play consistent with what I have seen from other games, she role revealed to me before doing so on thread and it (so far) has been shown to be true. I just don't like the feels that way. I would consider her the most likely villager out of the 3 top players.
Trilt I was originally having feels for, but her defense comments today I have been happy with. Since Jil blocked her, that went along with her claim that she was it by 3 abilities the other night.
Gwen I just didn't see anything at all, but I am starting to get a little suspicious. I would like more of a defense (or at least a solid try at one). I have not played enough with her to get a good feel of her play, however I remember her always playing quite quiet so that is why no bells went off. I could go this way, but if she is telling the truth that would be a really unfortunate ability to lose. Though I guess it would also be a conversion target?

My personal list right now is completely feels. None of them have really had to defend.
Dy was probably at the top, but Trilt had a good point about the arguing. And if Dy is being honest there is no reason not to keep her around for a little longer.
I'm a little stuck. However I am satisfied with Kam defense. Unlynch Kam lynch Gwen

 

[DVMDream]

So lemme see if I understand it. There are actual <reasons> to lynch either of the two front-runners. I'm not saying they are great reasons, but they ARE reasons.

You won't vote for them because you think it's bad, you haven't seen much to go off of, so .... what..... you're just going to sit it out?

Who do YOU think are the top 3 wolfiest players right now, and why? And why are you not voting for one of those top 3 on your personal list?

The above-quoted BBC post is wolfy as hell.

She had voted for Kam at that time, but I found it odd that she came up with a reason to vote for Kam that she fully admits is something she has done and would do as a villager... that is what I found odd about her posts.

 

[DVMDream]

Unlynch trilt

I am torn between jilary and gwen at the moment....

 

[dyachei]

jil kind of reads desperate to me.

Also confused as to why she didn't out my "other faction" until late in the day

 

[Trilt]

Modbandonment? Lynch Tally
Gwen (6) - Trilt, LotF, Kam, Dy, MQ, BBC
Jil (11) - LIS, VMH, hayley, Gwen, Caiter, STL, PBC, Ny, genny, Raf, AM
Trilt (1) - Cray
raf (1) - Ally
Dy (1) - Jilary

20/23 Voting

Check your vote... you know how I tally.

 

[allyphoe]

Also confused as to why she didn't out my "other faction" until late in the day

She said she didn't know about it until then.

Ok, I guess someone believes me because I was just told Dy is a faction of her own, poss lone wolf, chaos or neutral.

 

[Crayola227]

I wonder if we should start threatening to lynch the silent ones.

We are "tunneling" to those active in the thread. Sure there could be a wolf in here making a lot of noise misdirecting. More likely we cluck amongst ourselves and they sit back.

I wanna hear from @Mad Jack what he has to say. I get he's busy and can't write a lot, but it's been enough days I hope he's kept up on the thread and has a few thoughts to share.

Who else?

 

[Crayola227]

Modbandonment? Lynch Tally
Gwen (6) - Trilt, LotF, Kam, Dy, MQ, BBC
Jil (12) - LIS, VMH, hayley, Gwen, Caiter, STL, PBC, Ny, genny, Raf, Dy, AM
Trilt (1) - Cray
raf (1) - Ally
Dy (1) - Jilary

21/23 Voting - think I'm missing @Mad Jack and @DVMDream

Check your vote... you know how I tally.

Yeah, I thought you had more votes. Or did everyone unlynch you?

 

[dyachei]

She said she didn't know about it until then.

still begs the question why the person that told her didn't out the info earlier.

 

[Mad Jack]

Lynch jil.

I've little to say other than Penny Dreadful is a great show.

 

[kaydubs]

At a wedding. Mod abandonment? It's may have happened....

 

[allyphoe]

Modbandonment? Lynch Tally
Gwen (6) - Trilt, LotF, Kam, Dy, MQ, BBC
Jil (12) - LIS, VMH, hayley, Gwen, Caiter, STL, PBC, Ny, genny, Raf, Dy, AM
Trilt (1) - Cray
raf (1) - Ally
Dy (1) - Jilary

21/23 Voting - think I'm missing @Mad Jack and @DVMDream

Check your vote... you know how I tally.

Dy's on there twice. I have her down as Gwen, not Jil.

 

[kaydubs]

Deadline extended until one of us can close.....

 

[kaydubs]

Dy's on there twice. I have her down as Gwen, not Jil.

Thanks for tallying, @Trilt

 

[finnickthedog]

lynch gwen

Unless I missed deadline. I lost power for a little bit there. 🙁

By the way, my "safer option" comment was something I was only taking into account because I felt we had two candidates (jil and gwen) with an equal chance of being wolfy. Seemed a better way to make a choice than flipping a coin or just rolling with the majority. Please don't think I was suggesting we just lynch probable villagers. Not what I meant at all.