***Official OMS 2024 Match Results***

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Congratulations to everyone that matched. Let's pay it forward for the future classes. Good luck everyone!

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Program Matched: 4 year in SE
Dental School Attended: NYU
Year Earned DMD/DDS:
2018
International Student (yes/no):
no
NBME scores:
80 - taken July 2023
Class Ranking/Size:
bottom 20%
Externship(s)/where: in 2023 - Montefiore, St Joseph's, Highland
Research:
none
Extracurriculars:
no OMFS experience in dental school. 4 years as GP before 1 year of non-cat
Programs Applied to/Interview Invites/Interviews attended/Programs Ranked:
48/5/5/5

If I can do it, anyone can do it. I truly mean that. dont give up. please message me if you have Q's.
 
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Program Matched: Northeast 6 year
Dental School Attended: NYU
Year Earned DMD/DDS: 2024
International Student (yes/no): no
NBME scores: 72% EPC (77 or 217)
Class Ranking/Size: Top 25%
Externship(s)/where: 2 only (local and not at matched program)
Research: 1 ongoing project, no pubs
Extracurriculars: OMS club, none others
Programs Applied to/Interview Invites/Interviews attended/Programs Ranked: 34/14/14/14

Matched #1 choice.
 
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Quiet one this year
 
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Program Matched: West coast 6 year
Dental School Attended: West coast state school
Year Earned DMD/DDS:
2024
International Student (yes/no):
no
NBME scores:
72% EPC
Class Ranking/Size:
2/69
Externship(s)/where:
4 all over
Research:
Poster projects
Extracurriculars:
OMFS interest group, couple of small clubs but mostly fluff
Programs Applied to/Interview Invites/Interviews attended/Programs Ranked:
21/19/12/11

I echo what’s been said before on here, just be normal and humble and success will follow.
 
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any Canadians ?
Program Matched: East coast 4 yr
Dental School Attended: East coast
Year Earned DMD/DDS: 2024
International Student (yes/no): Y (Canadian)
NBME scores: 75% EPC
Class Ranking/Size: Top 5%
Externship(s)/where: 4 mostly east coast
Research: Couple pubs, one omfs related
Extracurriculars: OMFS club president, os honors program, other random leadership roles
Programs Applied to/Interview Invites/Interviews attended/Programs Ranked: 38/25/18/18
Matched to #1

Applying as a Canadian sucks but it’s doable. A little extra adversity makes match day that much sweeter. Be yourself, work your butt off and let the process do it’s thing.
 
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Program Matched: Midwest 4 year
Dental School Attended: Midwest dental school
Year Earned DMD/DDS: 2024
International Student (yes/no): no
NBME scores: 63% EPC
Class Ranking/Size: Top 15%
Externship(s)/where: 4 externships all across country
Research: Minor research experience
Extracurriculars: President of OMFS and other clubs, OMFS assistant, typical school involvement/volunteering
Programs Applied to/Interview Invites/Interviews attended/Programs Ranked: 40/14/12/12

Like many have said, be humble and continue to work hard throughout dental school. Despite not having the highest class rank or CBSE score, I still matched to one of my top programs. Be a normal person throughout the interview cycle and you will match to the program you best fit in at.
 
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Doing my due diligence because god knows I browsed these threads endlessly throughout my entire dental school career.

Program Matched: 6 Year
Dental School Attended: Unranked school
Year Earned DMD/DDS: 2024
International Student (yes/no): no
NBME scores: 65% EPC / 71 Old Score
Class Ranking/Size: Unranked
Externship(s)/where: 5 East and West
Research: Some clinical lab involvement, some wetlab involvement. No presentations or publications in d school. Involved in 3 labs + research experiences in undergraduate however and this was on my CV.
Extracurriculars: Started 1 club related to OMFS, VP of 1 other OMFS related club, some leadership positions throughout dental school. Some volunteering, some teaching. Stayed involved in path lab, etc. Honestly, nothing utterly spectacular but I did have a fair amount of involvement at the very least.
Programs Applied to/Interview Invites/Interviews attended/Programs Ranked: 42/18/17/17

My biggest concern for applying this cycle was related to undergraduate GPA and having a just above 70 CBSE (had limited study time only around 4-5 or so months with clinic) so hopefully this quells some people's fears for the future. Came from a competitive undergraduate school and graduated with a 3.56. While I think that the scores X'd me out from some schools, I received interviews from many "competitive" med school tied programs that did not seem to have an issue with my GPA. My feeling is that so long as you're above a 3.5 undergraduate, you're more or less not going to be denied by the med school just on GPA alone - minus a couple schools like Harvard or NYU. Very thankful to have received 18 invites from I'd say 90% of the schools I really wanted to receive them from, with the remainder I applied just to get in somewhere if it came to that. Ended up matching top 3.

Seems like 70+ CBSE truly gets your foot in the door - but don't sleep on LORs. I think I had really good LORs which probably got another foot in for me through the door despite some lower stats. I honestly think extracurriculars (unless you did some insane research), really don't matter too much as long as you were "involved". Then from there, honestly just prepare well for the interview, be confident, and know your answers inside and out because I probably answered the same 3 questions at every interview (Why OMFS, Why our school, Where do you see yourself in 5-10 years lol).

Final tip - extern where you want to go, many programs give interview preference to externs and also are able to remember you through it. If you truly have no preference for where you want to end up geographically, then also try to extern broadly so that some locations won't automatically X you out. (East coast won't believe you would come east if you only externed south, etc.)

If I can match to a competitive 6 year program with a "top ranked medical school" with a 3.56 and a 71, I truly believe anyone can hahaha. I was not spectacular by any means but I know I worked hard, built good relationships with OMFS faculty, and showed up my best for the interview day and it paid off. Good luck future applicants!!!
 
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Program Matched: Southeastern 4-year
Dental School Attended: Southern dental school
Year Earned DMD/DDS: 2024
International Student (yes/no): no
NBME scores: 67% EPC, 73 Old Score
Class Ranking/Size: Top 3%
Externship(s)/where: 6 externships all across country
Research: None
Extracurriculars: Multiple ASDA exec roles, OMFS club president, as well as other club exec roles, school ambassador, tutor, and volunteering
Programs Applied to/Interview Invites/Interviews attended/Programs Ranked: 34/18/14/14
Matched #1 program

Many individuals have emphasized the importance of maintaining humility and dedicating yourself to hard work during your time in dental school. Looking back at the application process I can truly say that you will match if you put your heart and soul into this profession. Additionally, while you’re on the interview trail be nice and get to know everyone. These are your future colleagues and possibly life long friends. Lastly, be yourself! By being yourself you will increase the likelihood of finding a program that truly resonates with your values and goals. If anyone has any questions about the application/interview process feel free to PM me. Best of luck to all future applicants and congrats to those who matched this cycle!
 
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Program Matched: East coast 4-year
Dental School Attended: East coast
Year Earned DMD/DDS: 2024
International Student (yes/no): no
NBME scores: 75 old score
Class Ranking/Size: Unranked
Externship(s)/where: 4 externships throughout east coast and Midwest
Research: minimal
Extracurriculars: ASDA , president of a few clubs, volunteering, typical stuff
Programs Applied to/Interview Invites/Interviews attended/Programs Ranked: 39/21/19/18
Matched #1 program

Do reasonably well on the CBSE. Be kind. Be friendly. Work hard. Extern early and often. Make connections. This is all doable. If I did it, you all can too. PM me with any questions
 
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Program Matched: Midwest 4-year
Dental School Attended: Midwest
Year Earned DMD/DDS: 2024
International Student (yes/no): no
NBME scores: 63% EPC
Class Ranking/Size: top 1/3rd
Externship(s)/where: 5 externships Midwest/East Coast
Research: 1 pub, many abstracts
Extracurriculars: typical leadership/volunteering
Programs Applied to/Interview Invites/Interviews attended/Programs Ranked: 44/20/13/13

CBSE score, grades, LORs, extracurricular will get you interviews .. once you’re at the interview it’s about convincing every program to rank you #1 just as they want to convince the applicants they’re the best program out there.

Best advice I’ve gotten for interviews is that many interviewers are looking to see if if they could spend extended periods of time with you- are you going to be a pleasant person to be around for the next 4-6 years? Do you pass the vibe check?? But, there were those on the trail that asked aggressive questions clearly trying to catch you off guard to see how you react (personally didn’t rank these types of programs high as this usually wasn’t the only negative experience I had at said interviews). IMO this behavior is different than asking tough questions or trying to get at the meat of your personality which is understandable that they want to get to know their applicants better.
 
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Program Matched: 6yr
Dental School Attended: unranked
Year Earned DMD/DDS: 2024
International Student (yes/no): no
NBME scores: 70% EPC
Class Ranking/Size: n/a
Externship(s)/where: 6 (one at home program, one at matched)
Research: 4 pubs, 4 presentations (one OMS related)
Extracurriculars: one big thing
Programs Applied to/Interview Invites/Interviews attended/Programs Ranked: 30/24/17/17

Don't forget to smell the roses.
 
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Program Matched: 6 year
Dental School Attended: ranked
Year Earned DMD/DDS:
prior to 2024
International Student (yes/no):
no
NBME scores:
high 60s EPC
Class Ranking/Size:
bottom 50%
Externship(s)/where:
3
Research:
2 posters
Extracurriculars:
not much
Programs Applied to/Interview Invites/Interviews attended/Programs Ranked:
25/5/5/5
 
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I would like to hear from applicants, both those who matched and those who didn't, Why they believe there were so many unmatched spots this year. (26)

Programs were hoarding top applicants (met several with 20-25+ on the interview trail) and applicants attended interviews for sake of attending and chose the best fit program to them that means the ivory programs couldn't all choose the same people. I'll speak for myself, I don't want a 24/7 trauma call program or pathology heavy and I feel like a decent amount of candidates also felt the same way, at least, the ones I spoke to. So they chose programs more well rounded to them and their interests.

Furthermore I think the news is out on malignant vs. non malignant programs, the workload, the lifestyle, etc and people aren't as gullible before and ranked with where they wanted to go to ideally compared to what the program though of them as an applicant. NY programs were especially in the gutter this year.
 
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everyone gets and is giving the same advice. Apply to as many programs as you can afford. Attend as many interviews as you can. Maximize your chances. Applicants that I know say they saw many of the same people at their interviews, so it’s likely that A lot of programs are interviewing the same batch of applicants. I’m not sure, but a lot of the unmatched programs may not have an accurate pulse on how they are perceived by candidates or the vibes they give off while people are on externships or interviewing.

I think there are a few things that could be implemented to help both applicants and programs.

1) pre-interview signaling/flagging - applicants get to signal to 3-5 programs that they are in their top 5. Programs could have a better idea about who is really serious about their program vs who went for the shotgun approach.

2) put a limit on the number of interviews candidates can attend. Forces them to be more realistic with where they attend and their signals. I’m not sure what a good number is. Looking at match statistics very few people who matched fell to lower than their 7th spot. So maybe 10 interviews? 15?

3) I think programs should be much more forthcoming/realistic on application/score cutoffs and candidate statistics. “We have a 65EPC and 3.8 or top 35% cut off. The Score range of applicants We interviewed was : mean 70EPC, upper quartile of 75, lower quartile of 68. Scores are not taken into account after interviews are extended. Med school cut off is 70EPC, exceptions are possible but rare” Anything like what they have for dental school applications would be very, very helpful and better inform which programs applicants apply to and what those programs are looking for.
 
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why would people not want a program with a lot of trauma??
Some people don’t want to be on call for trauma 365 seeing all facial trauma for the 3-5 hospitals they are on call for while taking “at home call.”
 
everyone gets and is giving the same advice. Apply to as many programs as you can afford. Attend as many interviews as you can. Maximize your chances. Applicants that I know say they saw many of the same people at their interviews, so it’s likely that A lot of programs are interviewing the same batch of applicants. I’m not sure, but a lot of the unmatched programs may not have an accurate pulse on how they are perceived by candidates or the vibes they give off while people are on externships or interviewing.
N=1 but I agree completely about this.
 
I appreciate the feedback so far, all these points are fair assessments. I have also heard that some top dental students are thinking toward the super GP and avoiding residency as they will be able to do large implant cases and sedation with a few CE's after school. Does anyone have a thought on this. What about the difficulty of the CBSE while in dental school? Is that turning students away?

So thoughts so far.

1. Same top applicants applying to all large number of programs.
2. Some programs giving negative experiences during interviews.
3. Work/Life balance matters to some/most applicants.
4. CBSE difficulty during dental school
5. Instead of residency just go out and be a super GP

Is this a good list so far?
 
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I'll speak for myself, I don't want a 24/7 trauma call program or pathology heavy and I feel like a decent amount of candidates also felt the same way, at least, the ones I spoke to. So they chose programs more well rounded to them and their interests.

lol. I wouldn’t call a program with no trauma or path (at least benign) a “well-rounded program”. You can just admit you want a bread and butter/T&T private practice program - nothing wrong with that.
 
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I appreciate the feedback so far, all these points are fair assessments. I have also heard that some top dental students are thinking toward the super GP and avoiding residency as they will be able to do large implant cases and sedation with a few CE's after school. Does anyone have a thought on this. What about the difficulty of the CBSE while in dental school? Is that turning students away?

So thoughts so far.

1. Same top applicants applying to all large number of programs.
2. Some programs giving negative experiences during interviews.
3. Work/Life balance matters to some/most applicants.
4. CBSE difficulty during dental school
5. Instead of residency just go out and be a super GP

Is this a good list so far?

I agree with most. Don’t really agree on the super GP point.

CBSE is definitely what holds most people back from applying, but I personally think it is necessary for residency (especially those 4 year programs who do not go through medical school). I can’t imagine going on IM rotation with only my dental school knowledge. The CBSE/Medical School knowledge is, I believe, necessary.

I think people hoarding interviews is definitely the biggest problem. I am honestly surprised programs don’t weigh the externship heavier. That student is spending their free time and money at your program - it should be a way to screen those who get some of the interviews, at the very least.
 
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I appreciate the feedback so far, all these points a fair assessments. I have also heard that some top dental students are thinking toward the super GP and avoiding residency as they will be able to do large implant cases and sedation with a few CE's after school. Does anyone have a thought on this. What about the difficulty of the CBSE while in dental school? Is that turning students away?

i think you’ve always had that cohort of top students who are highly motivated and know they can hustle and do just as well, if not better, than specialists. The super GP has always existed, it’s probably just more common now because debt burden necessitates that you become a super GP to make your loan payments and build wealth.

Of my 80 person class, 15-20 came in wanting to do omfs. The CBSE deterred all but 5. It’s a massive barrier to entry that’s higher if your dental school has a strict attendance policy, doesn’t have med school integrated curriculum, makes you do your own lab work, Has poor didactics, or some other random thing outside of your control.

Obviously having an entrance exam or some large barrier to entry is nice as an applicant, but the CBSE study process was awful. That being said, enough people are willing to bite the bullet, give it the old college try, and apply that about 1/3 of applicant go unmatched every year.
 
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2. Some programs giving negative experiences during interviews.

It’s not that they’re giving negative experiences during interviews, it’s that they make it very obvious they treat their residents like ****. No teaching, poor OR culture/dynamics, attendings who have no life outside of work and think they’re God’s gift to mankind, etc. etc. Anyone with any sort of social awareness can pick up on a programs culture and dynamic over the course of an externship or couple interview days. And word gets around fairly quickly.
 
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I thought only 50% match?
384 applicants this year. 259 positions. 233 matches for 2024. So this year 66% of applicant found a spot since all programs ultimately filled I believe. But fewer applicants this year and 16 more spots.

Historically it’s 50-60% of applicants match, but there is a decent range as #applicants have varied.
 
This is a good discussion. To clarify, I’m just a dental student planning on applying to OMFS. I ask this purely out of curiosity, as I hold no opinion on the matter. Also, my decision to apply will not change regardless of the answer. With respect to both sides, from a surgeon or surgery resident perspective, I’m curious what the general feeling is towards GPs doing sedations and all-on-x cases after solely learning from CE courses and not a formal residency training. Again, no judgement held, just asking out of curiosity since it seems to be becoming more common.

Most are more okay with them doing all-on-X cases, so long as they can handle their own complications. Sedations are super suspect. OMFS go through 6 months of hardcore training in order to do it, and we can always place a surgical airway if needed. It can be extremely dangerous and the reason why someone dies in your chair.
 
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Just echoing what HockeyDocOMFS said - With regards to all-on-x cases, I see GPs doing those start to finish. Its not super common but far more so than IV sedation. Even the "pushing the envelope" kind of GPs are likely stay away from IV sedation. They are able to manage cases with oral sedation.
With OMFS training - you can sedate your patients very efficiently/effectively and are more comfortable surgically. Thus do more of the "big cases"
 
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I appreciate the feedback so far, all these points are fair assessments. I have also heard that some top dental students are thinking toward the super GP and avoiding residency as they will be able to do large implant cases and sedation with a few CE's after school. Does anyone have a thought on this. What about the difficulty of the CBSE while in dental school? Is that turning students away?

So thoughts so far.

1. Same top applicants applying to all large number of programs.
2. Some programs giving negative experiences during interviews.
3. Work/Life balance matters to some/most applicants.
4. CBSE difficulty during dental school
5. Instead of residency just go out and be a super GP

Is this a good list so far?
Currently a PGY-4, my program matched the categorical spots but having trouble findings non-cats, likely due to the unfilled categorical spots that may still be open. My thoughts on your points:

1. Definitely agree

2. Possibly? I remember back when I was interviewing (thankfully in person), none of the experiences of the interviews themselves were poor, you could just tell if you didn't want to go to that program regardless

3. I think this is more of a driver of 4 vs 6 year competitiveness, w/4 year arguably being more competitive given applicants:spots ratio. Which is funny, the med school portions of residency offer the best work life balance! But 4 year earlier earning potential and shorter delayed gratification substantially winning out, I do see how work life balance can substantially affect this

4. This has always existed except for the COVID years of studying. Probably getting :"easier" given the abundance of resources and study plans out there, where all you have to do is put in the work to get a good score (obviously very time-consuming and demanding, but less "feeling lost", just sticking to the formula).

5. This one is interesting, but as others have said, I don't think this has a lot to do with OMFS not matching spots. I don't think there is a ton of overlap of people who enter dental school and become OMFS vs Super GPs. My n=1 experience:

I went to a public school that strongly encouraged everyone to consider an AEGD or GPR if they were pursuing general. Faculty emphasized that school is just to teach you the very basics and get you licencesd, and in order to provide value to a practice, get more proficient, and dip your toes into more advanced procedures, it was essentially necessary to do one. I used to think that this was all just a giant euphamism for my school not offering a robust clinical experienced. Of my graduating class (2020), there is not one single person currently working for DSO/corporate as a GP. In the class below me, to the best of my knowledge there are only two. Most people are bread and butter private practice associates/owners, who will dabble in endo, single tooth posterior implants etc, or they are OMFS residents/practicing specialists. Very few super GPs. All doing great financially/overall (except OMFS residents lol)

I then matched to an OMFS program at a different public school in a different region of the country. At this school, very few graduates who are going into general do an AEGD/GPR, as the need to do so is not emphasized by the school faculty/culture. At this school, there are more people who want to, or think they will become, super GPs, because it is assumed that dental school prepares you to hit the ground running, and CE will cover whatever gaps you have. When I got here, I noticed this perception/attitude, and assumed it was because the clinical experience exceeded that of my dental school. I could not possibly have been more wrong. It is all the attitude difference. Clinical experience was the same, if not worse. These people are seriously gonna do some poor work harming patients if they try to become super GPs without proper CE/training. In my limited experience, the GPs who seem to get the sufficient training from CE/direct mentorship are ones that are already wealthy and well-connected (i.e. family members in dentistry). They don't have the pressure to take the first job that comes their way/the only place that will hire them full time, and can afford the appropriate CE. Tale of haves and have nots. Meanwhile, the other students who graduate from schools like where my OMFS program is think that whatever corporate DSO hires them provides sufficient training in broader scope dentistry, when the reality is they get the chance to practice and **** up stuff without supervision on top of their brutal, hectic schedules of bread and butter dentistry + baby-sitting an impossible number of denture patients. I would guess at least 30-40% of the last two graduating classes from this dental school who didn't specialize/do and AEGD/GPR went corporate, and unforutnately will end up like this. Will they jump ship once they can afford to, and eventually become Super GPs with appropraite training and CE down the road? Who knows

Just my $0.02
 
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2. Some programs giving negative experiences during interviews.


Is this a good list so far?

Really wanted to echo this for any future PD's or current residents planning their upcoming interview cycle. It truly is true that as interviewees we are noticing little things about the program on the one day that we're there just as much as interviewers are learning about us.

There was one particular program this cycle (that went heavily unmatched) that many of us flew far to attend, had heard of "great scope and city" that left nearly all of us with a very poor taste in our mouths leaving. While I stand by the scope and the city, it really was the interview day that was very meh. Extremely short interview with the PD (5 minutes tops?), with the entire interview being "so do you have any questions for us?", and giving us tired, unenthusiastic responses. A general unhappy energy amongst the faculty and residents was felt by all of us that really made for a big turn off to rank this program anywhere near the top and it felt that our time might have been spent better having declined the invitation.

Not saying please wine and dine all your interviewers with caviar and champagne and put on a fake facade, but at the very least put on a bit of enthusiasm for those of us that worked hard to this point, traveled far, and were enthusiastic about the program at hand. Just some thoughts.
 
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Question for people who matched:
Do any of you guys have families (wife, kids etc.)?
Do programs look at this in a negative light if you mention you have a family during the interview?
(In the context of time away from family etc. during residency)
 
Plenty of residents have wife/kids. In my experience, the programs do not look at that as a negative. More importantly, you will be away from home a lot and quite busy, so your spouse has to be on board with this.
 
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Plenty of residents have wife/kids. In my experience, the programs do not look at that as a negative. More importantly, you will be away from home a lot and quite busy, so your spouse has to be on board with this.
Thanks for the insight!
 
Back when I was on the interview trail I remember being very frustrated trying to answer "why this program, why us?". Honestly there wasn't an answer for most, that's half the reason I showed up to the interview. How DO you figure out what a program is all about? The websites won't give much info but is a great place to start, then Externships offer the greatest insight.

What then? You are left coming on SDN, where there are very few residents, especially further along in their programs. The statements made by people on here may or may not be true, but when there is little else to go on, even one comment can have a HUGE effect. I continue to get messages on the regular that reference posts about Loma Linda University that were made in like 2007, with the dental student saying something along the lines of "I heard that Loma Linda is..". I read the same threads on here as you did when I was googling too.

For instance earlier in this thread someone was mentioning that they "heard that unmatched spots means the programs have issues" or something along those lines and just like that you could have an entire group of applicants will consider avoiding those programs for now for a single comment.
 
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Harlem Hospital Center Department of Oral & Maxillofacial Surgery has openings for 2 non-categorical intern positions to start July 1, 2024.

The Harlem Hospital OMFS program is an accredited 4-year OMFS Program in Harlem, New York. We practice full scope OMS and offer our residents the opportunity to serve patients in an exciting, fast-paced, and highly diverse environment. Harlem Hospital is a busy Level 2 trauma center that still accepts the majority of level one traumas in the area. The service covers facial trauma of the hospital 24/7/365. The program has a history of matching its own non-categorical interns, and an overall very high match rate for residents in the last 4 years. We participate in the Match and offer 1 categorical position each year. We are looking for hard-working, self-motivated individuals to join our team this upcoming 2024-2025 year.


The Department of Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery at Harlem Hospital Center will offer 2 non-categorical intern positions starting July 1st 2024

Please note: Eligible candidates must have completed a 1-year residency with valid certificate or have / be eligible to obtain a valid NY state dental license prior to starting.
(see NYS Dentistry:License Requirements)



Primary responsibilities will include the following:

1. Dentoalveolar surgery in a busy outpatient setting

2. Participation in the call schedule, responding to consults for maxillofacial trauma, orofacial infections, and additional emergent conditions

3. Pre-/peri-/post-operative management in the inpatient setting



Educational opportunities provided by the internship program will include:

1) Weekly didactic lectures and journal club covering the full scope of oral and maxillofacial surgery

2) Participation in weekly Grand Rounds

3) History and Physical Examination course

4) Exposure to the management of oral and maxillofacial surgery disease and deformities in the operating room setting



Interns will receive the salary and benefits at the PGY 2 level.

If interested in applying for the position, please email the program director Dr. James R. King ([email protected]) with your CV or PASS application. Feel free to private message me for any questions!
 
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