When it comes to private practice, whether you attend Iowa, VCU, Houston, Howard, or GSO doesn't make a difference. Regardless of whether we attend the top-ranked clinical program or the least strong one, our learning in orthodontics primarily involves understanding the basics.
What is everyone's thoughts on externships? Are they worth doing? Also, I go to a P/F school. Is there anything I can do besides research in the next year to bolster my application?
Externships are a great way to get a feel for a particular program, learn what ortho residency is like, and connect with faculty/residents/staff. I definitely suggest going on at least one externship before submitting your application that way it’s already on your app. In addition to an externship and research, leadership, professional development (conferences, meetings), professional affiliations, volunteering and part time work all look good.
How long would you suggest an externship be to put on an app like 3 days at least?
One or two days is fine. Anything more than two days is overkill IMO.
There are some programs with different tuitions, either research or clinic or both. I am sure you will find more details if you search "preceptorship in orthodontics" or "fellowship in orthodontics" Also, you might not be able to practice during that period and your earning will be limited. However, I believe it improves your chances.
Around 8am est, yes. I believe it shows you where you matched (if you match) in the email. You don’t have to login
Don’t regret it at all. Received multiple interviews. Many very reputable dental schools are P/F so it’s not looked down upon at all anymore. I felt being a P/F school allowed me to make genuine connections with faculty instead of just gunning for that top score. Which resulted in good letters of recommendation.
That's me.
Similar situation. Want it so bad!! Good luck to you!!!
Yup I totally agree. Going to a reputable pass/fail school aka "specialty school" is probably the best strategy for entering Ortho, as students can focus on building research and other extracurricular.
keyword reputable, currently at a less reputable p/f school, amazing program, but it seems extremely difficult to get interviews for ortho, endo, or OS. Not impossible, but difficult. It is an amazing program though, just wish it was better at getting students into specialties. I think for the last 3-4 years 0 people have gotten into OS (5 applied last year) or endo. Normally a few get into ortho every year (typically expensive programs like Georgia).
If you don’t mind me asking, which ones are not considered reputable. Aka from what you know, is UCLA known to reputable to Ortho directors?
UCLA, Harvard, UCSF, Columbia, etc. are more of the reputable programs that consistently have their students getting accepted into residency. I cannot speak for the ortho directors, just looking at other dental programs and seeing where and how many of their students are accepted into specialties. I think Columbia is one of the best places to go to dental school if you plan to specialize.
In my opinion, the strongest applicants are often those who rank in the Top 10 in reputable schools, boasting exceptional grades, class rankings, and simultaneously engaging in extensive research and extracurricular activities (ECs). For these applicants, impressive grades and high class rankings serve as distinguishing features alongside their substantial research and EC involvement. Institutions such as UNC and Michigan are known for their rigorous grading systems and competitive class ranks. However, a select few excel within these challenging environments, making them the strongest candidates with the highest chances of acceptance into programs like VCU, Iowa, Houston, and other nearly cost-free 2 to 2.5-year programs.
Does it say that every year and still come out at 8am? Or is it just later this year and we have a few hours?
I don't remember
This is what I want to know too!
Emails are sent like 8a-10am, and emails aside all results are available in the site at noon I believe!
Maybe it is this case? 🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀
I think you have to wait till 12 for post match
Ya believe at noon the site will either show you your matched program or the list of available positions if you don’t match becomes available.
