Once Upon A Time WW Game Thread

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kaydubs said:
No one's going to be hearing about conversions anymore.
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BFD. We all know somebody's getting converted N12 unless we get the converting wolf out of the game. I think DVMD gave us enough info to see that coming.

Onwards to ...

StartingoverVet said:
Hedgie even says that DVMD told her not to use the knife... because she trusted me... I don't think she ever planned on stabbing me in the back.
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with

hedgiehog said:
Oh no. DVMDream and I were connected. She knew who Gold was and wanted to stab him with the dagger.
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hedgiehog said:
DVM started looking for the knife at least two days ago so you could be killed.
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So. SOV says Hedgie says DVMD wasn't planning to off him with the knife. Hedgie says at least twice DVMD was planning to off him with the knife. I'm .. confused. And that I have to grit my teeth to say it, I trust DVMD on this one, and if she thought Rump had to go .....

StartingoverVet said:
Do what you will, I can understand you think I am chaos, but I am not.... You can't lynch me, and there really is no point in killing me unless you want to lose the benefits I provide.
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Kinda like your claim that you couldn't be killed in whatever game that was? Or kinda like you claiming to be on the side of villagers in .. whatever game I modded where you needed to collect the various items to end the game? My problem is ... you happily and boldly tell bald-faced lies about your roles. If there's one thing I've learned, it's not to believe you when you start talking about your role abilities. Especially when they start to border on eyebrow-raising.

StartingoverVet said:
Correct. 100%. It is why I debated so hard with LIS. I do think win conditions are rare, and not just because it is self-serving.
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Fair enough. Without resurrecting that argument, because I get where you're coming from (and I hope you get where I'm coming from), I just want to know for MY voting purposes: When it comes to deciding whether there are more villagers than wolves or more wolves than villagers: do you count in either category and if so, which one? I know that's not the issue you see as important. I hear you when you claim you've been working for villagers. But for me it's important to know what category you count in.

StartingoverVet said:
BTW, I've asked the mods to throw the knife in the Mariana Trench. Hoping they let me do that 😀
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Ha. I tried to destroy it once already, too. No dice. But I was doing it because I was afraid it'd give Rump 'more' power.

For now, though, on the "where there's smoke there's fire" principle: lynch lupin. I'll probably be bashing my head against the wall, but I actually want to hear more from SOV before we try lynching him (I don't really believe the "I can't be lynched" claim any more than the "I can't be killed" claim, or at least have a pretty hefty dose of skepticism.). I can't remember why, but I'm positive that earlier in the game I had reason to think he was on the side of villagers.

Long frickin' night. One of my clients had to head off to the ER after her dog bit her in the clinic. Was a pretty nasty bite. Full circumference around the thumb. And then she held her hand over her (white) 60-lb dog, who quickly became a red dog. Super awesome.
 
Current lynch tally:
Lupin 6 - cuit (contingency), Minnerbelle (contingency), tuckervet, hedgie, Fancy, LIS
EC 0
SOV 0
TRH 1 - rojo
FF 0
swings 4 - SOV, EC, Lupin, NStarz
tuckervet 1 - Dwin
dyachei 0

Waffles: 12

Votes: 12/18. Deadline 2:30 PM EST.

So happy to be sleeping up off the ground tonight. 😴 Happy early Monday!
 
Literally too tired to read everything. 12 hour day. On a Sunday. And another 9 hour day tomorrow. Must get sleep. Will come back on before internship tomorrow and thanks alors for giving them the heads up. As per the last however many lynches it's been lynch lupin for the same reasons I stated before... although I could see one of the noobs being a wolf as well.. This is more for self preservation. Good NIGHT
 
I will confirm lupin sent me an anonymous pm via the mods... So there is that... I'm not sure where I stand on this lynch... I have a feeling one of those wolves (probably cora) has an alias... So if someone is vouching for an obscure villager, they may have been fooled...
 
Lupin's multipower role sounds a little like mine, so that would make me think it is a neutral role. But then, the only other powerful role I could think of is Regina.

I could see Regina as neutral, but also as a wolf.

Not sure whether to waffle or not.
 
LIS: To answer your question, I count for neither villager nor wolf.

Eliminating me with the knife presumably has no effect on the count, but if you agree I don't have a win condition, it does eliminate someone who would vote to lynch wolves, and has powers to help villagers.

So in a lynch vote, you are better off with me.

And in the why trust me category:
1) I just served up a wolf 1 round ago.
2) Wolves have tried to kill me, so you know where my allegiance is going to lie.
3) I have known some major character names all game long and they remain undisclosed, and I do help them out (although they may not know it).

That's all I;ve got.
 
StartingoverVet said:
Lupin's multipower role sounds a little like mine, so that would make me think it is a neutral role. But then, the only other powerful role I could think of is Regina.

I could see Regina as neutral, but also as a wolf.

Not sure whether to waffle or not.
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I don't think there is any chance Regina is not a wolf.
 
Keeping my vote. Seems like a lot going on behind the scene, not sure what to think about it all. Going to be an interesting lynch to say the least.
 
StartingoverVet said:
Lupin's multipower role sounds a little like mine, so that would make me think it is a neutral role. But then, the only other powerful role I could think of is Regina.

I could see Regina as neutral, but also as a wolf.

Not sure whether to waffle or not.
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This does make sense... who else would be able to get anonymous messages out to anyone, move anyone to where ever they please, and get a question answered every few nights (if that part of it is real).... Unless I'm missing someone, I think that would be Regina.... who else would have that much clout over the city? Which also makes some sense as to why Lupin has been avoiding revealing the name of the role, since saying Regina would get instantly lynched (and rightfully so).

Unlynch TRH, lynch Lupin

Seems we have gotten 2 wolves so far, and we are pretty much convinced we are looking for Cora and Regina as other original wolves... do we think that is all the original wolves, + 2 converts, so 4 wolves left, or could there have been more original wolves (32 starting players, usually that means the mods like 5-6 wolves, but with 2 converts by D8, they might have wanted to make it more about finding the converts at the end and making it hard to find original wolves, as is evident by how long it took us to find the first 2). King James is still out there as a logical choice for another original wolf.
 
I don't know.... I think Peter Pan is going to be an original wolf, and I think Regina is gonna be neutral.

I thought she would be a wolf, but she is certainly not worse than Tamara. She has a lot of sympathetic qualities, just chooses badly A LOT. And spoiler:

Don't forget when push comes to shove, she was willing to sacrifice herself to save the town. I can see the good inside her... let go your hate - oops getting her confused with Annakin Skywalker now:laugh:

I am gonna stick with Swings.

I am gonna guess when she is lynched she will be the same color as Hook or maybe Tamara/Greg, but not as the wolves, but I don't blame anyone for lynching Lupin.
 
StartingoverVet said:
I don't know.... I think Peter Pan is going to be an original wolf, and I think Regina is gonna be neutral.

I thought she would be a wolf, but she is certainly not worse than Tamara. She has a lot of sympathetic qualities, just chooses badly A LOT. And spoiler:

Don't forget when push comes to shove, she was willing to sacrifice herself to save the town. I can see the good inside her... let go your hate - oops getting her confused with Annakin Skywalker now:laugh:

I am gonna stick with Swings.

I am gonna guess when she is lynched she will be the same color as Hook or maybe Tamara/Greg, but not as the wolves, but I don't blame anyone for lynching Lupin.
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She also wanted to destroy the town and run away with Henry so no one else could have him.
 
Regina is the Big Bad for the first season. No way she's going to be on the villagers' side.
 
I am not Regina. Also, pMing and moving people is not a powerful ability. I strongly suggest you all rethink my lynch.

LIS, I am the first character I told you about in your PM. Also, all the anon messages I've sent have been benign to useless except for warning people the thoughts on who are wolves are wrong. We have found that to be true, a la Tamara, Greg and hook. As well as SOV being gold and neutral, if indeed he is.
 
Current lynch tally:
Lupin 9 - cuit (contingency), Minnerbelle (contingency), tuckervet, hedgie, Fancy, LIS, swings, rojo, TRH
EC 0
SOV 0
TRH 0
FF 0
swings 4 - SOV, EC, Lupin, NStarz
tuckervet 1 - Dwin
dyachei 0

Waffles: 13

Votes: 14/18. Deadline 2:30 PM EST.

Plurality has been reached, however, I should probably do real work this morning since I have been away, so Lupin gets a few more hours to live. Unless kaydubs signs on to carry out the sentence. :meanie:
 
Lupin21 said:
I am not Regina. Also, pMing and moving people is not a powerful ability. I strongly suggest you all rethink my lynch.

LIS, I am the first character I told you about in your PM. Also, all the anon messages I've sent have been benign to useless except for warning people the thoughts on who are wolves are wrong. We have found that to be true, a la Tamara, Greg and hook. As well as SOV being gold and neutral, if indeed he is.
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I dunno why you are so reluctant to role reveal Lupin... it is baffling to me, that you have been so close to dying what, 2, 3 times now, and still haven't had anyone come out and say you are a villager nor have you told the thread who you are...
 
Escalla said:
Current lynch tally:
Lupin 9 - cuit (contingency), Minnerbelle (contingency), tuckervet, hedgie, Fancy, LIS, swings, rojo, TRH
EC 0
SOV 0
TRH 0
FF 0
swings 4 - SOV, EC, Lupin, NStarz
tuckervet 1 - Dwin
dyachei 0

Waffles: 13

Votes: 14/18. Deadline 2:30 PM EST.

Plurality has been reached, however, I should probably do real work this morning since I have been away, so Lupin gets a few more hours to live. Unless kaydubs signs on to carry out the sentence. :meanie:
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9 of 18 aint plurality (since it can become tied 9-9)... but, Unlynch Lupin, lynch tuckervet not because I know anything bad about tucker, but i'm willing to give lupin enough time... for now...
 
thedrjojo said:
9 of 18 aint plurality (since it can become tied 9-9)... but, Unlynch Lupin, lynch tuckervet not because I know anything bad about tucker, but i'm willing to give lupin enough time... for now...
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You're right, I was thinking 17 for a minute.
 
Current lynch tally:
Lupin 8 - cuit (contingency), Minnerbelle (contingency), tuckervet, hedgie, Fancy, LIS, swings, TRH
EC 0
SOV 0
TRH 0
FF 0
swings 4 - SOV, EC, Lupin, NStarz
tuckervet 2 - Dwin, rojo
dyachei 0

Waffles: 14

Votes: 14/18. Deadline 2:30 PM EST.
 
My extra power for finding Emma was being able to convert Regina to the good side, so she is definitely a wolf.
 
NStarz said:
My extra power for finding Emma was being able to convert Regina to the good side, so she is definitely a wolf.
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how the feck can a wolf be converted to good... still haven't figured out a mechanism besides making SOV bark the entire game, which is a lame ass role and I'd rather just die... but apparently SOV was amused by it...

if anything, that leads credence to Regina being a neutral or chaotic characters... ugh... what the feck! Why would sydney be a wolf and not regina?!? and Malefecent... they both are only wolves because of the association with Regina... This doesn't make any fecking sense...
 
thedrjojo said:
how the feck can a wolf be converted to good... still haven't figured out a mechanism besides making SOV bark the entire game, which is a lame ass role and I'd rather just die... but apparently SOV was amused by it...

if anything, that leads credence to Regina being a neutral or chaotic characters... ugh... what the feck! Why would sydney be a wolf and not regina?!? and Malefecent... they both are only wolves because of the association with Regina... This doesn't make any fecking sense...
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I have no idea. I didn't really read too much into it.
 
Maybe all her kills would have failed and the mods would count her as a villager. The only way it actually works is to not let Regina know that she's no longer a wolf.
 
Current lynch tally:
Lupin 8 - cuit (contingency), Minnerbelle (contingency), tuckervet, hedgie, Fancy, LIS, swings, TRH
EC 0
SOV 0
TRH 0
FF 0
swings 5 - SOV, EC, Lupin, NStarz, wld
tuckervet 2 - Dwin, rojo
dyachei 0

Waffles: 14

Votes: 15/18. Deadline 2:30 PM EST.
 
thedrjojo said:
how the feck can a wolf be converted to good... still haven't figured out a mechanism besides making SOV bark the entire game, which is a lame ass role and I'd rather just die... but apparently SOV was amused by it...

if anything, that leads credence to Regina being a neutral or chaotic characters... ugh... what the feck! Why would sydney be a wolf and not regina?!? and Malefecent... they both are only wolves because of the association with Regina... This doesn't make any fecking sense...
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If Regina doesn't know the other wolves she can convert to good. I have thought of that as a mechanism. I have also thought of mute players after conversion.
 
Ok. ***unlynch lupin***

and ***lynch SOV***

Not really because I don't believe him (though I just don't believe he has no separate win condition) but because we don't have a wolf to lynch. This lets us test his claim to find out if he's being truthful and it doesn't cost is anything. If he's telling the truth he lives. If he's not, he dies and it was probably a good choice to lynch him.

I'll waffle to swings of someone has time to post a quick summary of why he's getting votes. I'm sorry - I'm on my phone and have to get back to work very soon.
 
LetItSnow said:
Ok. ***unlynch lupin***

and ***lynch SOV***

Not really because I don't believe him (though I just don't believe he has no separate win condition) but because we don't have a wolf to lynch. This lets us test his claim to find out if he's being truthful and it doesn't cost is anything. If he's telling the truth he lives. If he's not, he dies and it was probably a good choice to lynch him.

I'll waffle to swings of someone has time to post a quick summary of why he's getting votes. I'm sorry - I'm on my phone and have to get back to work very soon.
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I have no idea why swings is getting votes other than we haven't heard much from her, which is suspicious but she's usually rather quiet.
 
that redhead said:
I'm also curious why the wolves haven't killed Fancy yet if she is indeed the blue fairy...
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:shrug:

What do we think the fairy can do now that Allie is dead and it seems all fancy was doing was curing people from allie's attacks? Unless I am missing her doing anything else important, I figured she became a low value target after that death, so I don't find it too odd.... but I'm still mad at you for not healing me fancy! but I still 😍

I find it more concerning that the villagers are losing more advanced/active players in the past few nights... WS, Devyn, and DVMD... plus to go along with the fact that SOV thinks he was targeted earlier, as well as myself possibly (although I can't confirm I've ever been a wolf target), and we have some wolves that don't like a fun game 😡
 
WS, Devyn and DVMD have all seemed to be well-connected to other players. With the wolves having targeted you pretty heavily early on (when you were a lot more vocal..), I think they're attempting to cauterize the flow of information.
 
Seeing as how it is getting close to deadline and work prevents me from being as active, I'll lay it out there for ya'll and hope for the best.

I am Peter Pan. My role is more of a prankster and I am not aligned with the wolves. I figure my color to be like Tamara and Greg. I did not want to put my name out there because I would be wanted by both wolves and villagers. Villagers thinking they had a sure lynch and wolves for a conversion target. I've been converted way too many times in these games. I moved Devyn to the sheriff station one night and WS was killed (not by me) when I was attempting to move her over to rojo at her request. The only evilish thing I've done was kidnap cuit, which she even thanked me for.

I kind of liken myself to dy's role a bit where I could choose either side to play for, but am quite tired of playing for wolves.

I hope that is enough for you to look for a real wolf, like Cora. Just to add to my trying to be good, all your questions about Fancy were in my mind already too, which is why I asked about her alliance N8. What better conversion target than a role that's been outed?

Anywho, have 30 min to sit a jaw, otherwise, at least you know all about me know.
 
Current lynch tally:
Lupin 7 - cuit (contingency), Minnerbelle (contingency), tuckervet, hedgie, Fancy, swings, TRH
EC 0
SOV 0
TRH 0
FF 0
swings 5 - SOV, EC, Lupin, NStarz, wld
tuckervet 2 - Dwin, rojo
dyachei 0
SOV 1 - LIS

Waffles: 15

Votes: 15/18. Deadline 2:30 PM EST.

Roll call: Alors, dyachei, bbeventer
 
Oh, and by dy's role I meant the one from SOV's last game. However I have no game changing decision or contact with both wolves and villagers. I also have no independent win condition. Just a boy that never grew up.
 
At this point we still have Cora and/or Regina to find. I'm willing to come back to lupin. unlynch lupin, lynch swings
 
Although I think all of the role abilities are kind of weird for Peter Pan. He was seriously only in the season finale of season 2.
 
Current lynch tally:
Lupin 6 - cuit (contingency), Minnerbelle (contingency), tuckervet, Fancy, swings, TRH
EC 0
SOV 0
TRH 0
FF 0
swings 6 - SOV, EC, Lupin, NStarz, wld, hedgie
tuckervet 2 - Dwin, rojo
dyachei 0
SOV 1 - LIS

Waffles: 16

Votes: 15/18. Deadline 2:30 PM EST.

Roll call: Alors, dyachei, bbeventer


Oh boy, oh boy! :meanie:
 
Escalla said:
Current lynch tally:
Lupin 6 - cuit (contingency), Minnerbelle (contingency), tuckervet, Fancy, swings, TRH
EC 0
SOV 0
TRH 0
FF 0
swings 6 - SOV, EC, Lupin, NStarz, wld, hedgie
tuckervet 2 - Dwin, rojo
dyachei 0
SOV 1 - LIS

Waffles: 16

Votes: 15/18. Deadline 2:30 PM EST.

Roll call: Alors, dyachei, bbeventer


Oh boy, oh boy! :meanie:
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There's still an hour to unbreak the tie. I'll change my vote back before then if no one is around.
 
hedgiehog said:
Although I think all of the role abilities are kind of weird for Peter Pan. He was seriously only in the season finale of season 2.
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You are underestimating the mods' love the the show. There is a lot of hullabalu about Peter Pan for season three.

Also, all my abilities match with the fact that I am a prankster. None of them have a serious impact on the game but can play with individual people as to who is PMing them or moving them. My questions are the only really useful thing I have, but it is a crap shoot on what will get answered. Also probably why I can only ask every fourth night.
 
Well, I have to go back to work. I will leave you all with this thought. We have been loosing a lot of well connected chatty villagers like you all have said. Most of them at one point have voted to lynch swings. Most everyone left here has voiced a suspicion. She was up for a bit last night with Alors coming in to say she was on her way home and would provide a defense. The votes shifted to me yet again, and so she votes for me and goes to bed without a peep. I would think with the major characters supposedly being known and such someone would have stepped up and said it is not a good idea by now.

Also, when you all find out I am not magenta, it does not clear cuit. I doubt she is a wolf, but I am not so my kidnapping should not clear her.
 
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