Once Upon A Time WW Game Thread

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lynch equineconstant based on the fact that DVMDream was talking with Gold and she said that when EC found out about FFM she (EC) sent a pm to everyone in the group saying he was a seer. Seems like a good way to get a seer killed. My thought is that a wolf would want the ones looking to destroy magic gone.

Ec is not gold and is vouched for
 
I see people lynching sov, does that mean we think sov is rump? Makes sense he was trying to paint a picture of rump not being a wolf. He did just deliver us a wolf, and it seems will be a wasted lynch vote... :shrug:

And fantasyflier would have to the ballsiest noob wolf to be the deciding vote on the first wolf lynch... That got rid of much suspicion on the deciding vote (where no one would have faulted a lupin lynch vote....)

Glad dvmd didn't die with the info on gold it seems...
 
I know who gold is, but was led to believe s/he wasn't a wolf (nothing conclusive, however). I'm going to let them mount a defense before I out them on the thread...
 
And fantasyflier would have to the ballsiest noob wolf to be the deciding vote on the first wolf lynch... That got rid of much suspicion on the deciding vote (where no one would have faulted a lupin lynch vote....)

Actually I talked to DVMD and we had the same theory...

FF originally voted to lynch allie when it was a bandwagon..
then at the last minute tried to save allie by lynching lupin.
But then it was a tie and both players might have been killed...
So then she switched back to allie.

The last minute switch would be a classic noob error.
Being the deciding vote on a wolf would be the counsel a veteran wolf would give.... Allie was dying either way... Might as well look good putting the knife in her back.

I thought that was VERY suspicious.
 
I know who gold is, but was led to believe s/he wasn't a wolf (nothing conclusive, however). I'm going to let them mount a defense before I out them on the thread...

Fine it is me.

But I was collaborating with DVMD all game. As I implied I am neutral, and have been working for the villagers all game.

In fact, I am pretty sure one or two of the no kill nights were the wolves trying to kill me early in the game (as usual).

No lynch ability usually means not a wolf (don't know why TRH says otherwise.. have only seen no lynch wolves in the lounge in some messed up games)..

I have chosen to help the villagers and I have a sh*tload of powers I have been using to help you guys, including protection, see-ing, and tracking.

If you are intent on killing me, you will lose the biggest thorn in the side of the wolves, and they will laugh their arses off.

You can't kill me tonight anyway....

I am sure the wolves have been waiting all game to get you to off me.
 
Actually I talked to DVMD and we had the same theory...

FF originally voted to lynch allie when it was a bandwagon..
then at the last minute tried to save allie by lynching lupin.
But then it was a tie and both players might have been killed...
So then she switched back to allie.

The last minute switch would be a classic noob error.
Being the deciding vote on a wolf would be the counsel a veteran wolf would give.... Allie was dying either way... Might as well look good putting the knife in her back.

I thought that was VERY suspicious.

I didn't see it that way... i mean, i don't care what the case is, if you can save a wolf, you save a wolf... even 1 additional cycle... there was a tie created between Lupin and Allie... and so, it could have easily been Allie living.

Now, that'd also make FF a great conversion target, which there has been on since then, so I dunno about that, but I'm pretty sure at that point, I still think FF was a villager...
 
And how do you think I knew about completely neutral role (of Hook for eg)... because I am one.

My role PM didn't even mention I wasn't a villager.. I thought I was for the first few days until FFM confused me, and then the Hook thing came out. After Hook was claiming to be neutral I asked the mods if i was a full villager and they said I was neutral, could help either side. They said it was in their notes but not the role description they sent me.
 
DVM started looking for the knife at least two days ago so you could be killed.
 
No lynch ability usually means not a wolf (don't know why TRH says otherwise.. have only seen no lynch wolves in the lounge in some messed up games)..

In the games I've played, those who can avoid a lynch are typically wolves. I doubt you're a wolf but I'm not quite sold on purely neutral quite yet.
 
Fine it is me.

But I was collaborating with DVMD all game. As I implied I am neutral, and have been working for the villagers all game.

In fact, I am pretty sure one or two of the no kill nights were the wolves trying to kill me early in the game (as usual).

No lynch ability usually means not a wolf (don't know why TRH says otherwise.. have only seen no lynch wolves in the lounge in some messed up games)..

I have chosen to help the villagers and I have a sh*tload of powers I have been using to help you guys, including protection, see-ing, and tracking.

If you are intent on killing me, you will lose the biggest thorn in the side of the wolves, and they will laugh their arses off.

You can't kill me tonight anyway....

I am sure the wolves have been waiting all game to get you to off me.

Are you trying to say that you have no independent win condition?!?

And I'm guessing by the can't kill you tonight you mean that you have the dagger... super... I'm pretty sure there is someone with the ability to track items, so i guess they can confirm if you are FOS or not...

I have a good belief that you killed Frozenshades, since I know someone sent you a message the night before they died letting you know they were Hook... and then magically they die the next night... are you going to deny that kill? if that's the case, it means you also can kill villagers... and you also know who I am... which does give you a bit of credence in my book that you haven't tried to do anything against me...
 
Hedgie even says that DVMD told her not to use the knife... because she trusted me... I don't think she ever planned on stabbing me in the back.

We were working together the whole time.

And I have known who (and still know) who charming and snow are for a long time.

I have done nothing but help villagers.
Do what you will, I can understand you think I am chaos, but I am not.... You can't lynch me, and there really is no point in killing me unless you want to lose the benefits I provide.

FYI... my opinion on what happens if you stab me? I think you get your name inscribed on the knife, and you become the neutral character. I don't think you can stay a villager, so just think whether it makes sense to lose a villager in exchange for a neutral character. Just my guess.
 
Actually I talked to DVMD and we had the same theory...

FF originally voted to lynch allie when it was a bandwagon..
then at the last minute tried to save allie by lynching lupin.
But then it was a tie and both players might have been killed...
So then she switched back to allie.

The last minute switch would be a classic noob error.
Being the deciding vote on a wolf would be the counsel a veteran wolf would give.... Allie was dying either way... Might as well look good putting the knife in her back.

I thought that was VERY suspicious.

TBH I was more afraid of killing Lupin than Allie - Lupin's a badass and kinda scary too 😳 🙂
My problem that resulted in me flipping between Allie and Lupin was Allie's BS about being the Huntsman. I didn't want to be the one to kill a person who had an ability to supposedly protect people or whatever but the fact that people had originally suspected Allie (I was kinda suspicious of her before the lynch) and then just bandwagon'ed onto Lupin after Allie's BS led me to vote Allie off. People weren't suspicious of Lupin - they just panicked and picked someone else when Allie lied. I wasn't the only one to switch over to Lupin after Allie said she was the Huntsman.

I suppose I'm too gullible 😳 but I am definitely a villager.
 
Are you trying to say that you have no independent win condition?!?

And I'm guessing by the can't kill you tonight you mean that you have the dagger... super... I'm pretty sure there is someone with the ability to track items, so i guess they can confirm if you are FOS or not...

I have a good belief that you killed Frozenshades, since I know someone sent you a message the night before they died letting you know they were Hook... and then magically they die the next night... are you going to deny that kill? if that's the case, it means you also can kill villagers... and you also know who I am... which does give you a bit of credence in my book that you haven't tried to do anything against me...

Actually Frozenshades also told me she was Hook it was one of the reasons I trusted you.

I have only had one night where I had the ability to kill. I picked Hook b/c she wasn't a villager, and honestly based on what FS told me, her reason to exist was to get revenge on me. Couldn't keep her alive. But that is the only time I killed.
 
Hedgie even says that DVMD told her not to use the knife... because she trusted me... I don't think she ever planned on stabbing me in the back.

We were working together the whole time.

And I have known who (and still know) who charming and snow are for a long time.

I have done nothing but help villagers.
Do what you will, I can understand you think I am chaos, but I am not.... You can't lynch me, and there really is no point in killing me unless you want to lose the benefits I provide.

FYI... my opinion on what happens if you stab me? I think you get your name inscribed on the knife, and you become the neutral character. I don't think you can stay a villager, so just think whether it makes sense to lose a villager in exchange for a neutral character. Just my guess.

She said not to use the knife tonight because there was something planned. She was going to explain it to me after it all happened but that didn't work out.

I do agree that the most likely consequence of stabbing SOV is a conversion. I wanted DVMDream to use it because she couldn't be converted.
 
Are you trying to say that you have no independent win condition?!?

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Correct. 100%. It is why I debated so hard with LIS. I do think win conditions are rare, and not just because it is self-serving.

I am probably too hard to kill to allow me to win the game. You have to stab me on a night where I lose my ability to protect.

BTW, I've asked the mods to throw the knife in the Mariana Trench. Hoping they let me do that 😀
 
Correct. 100%. It is why I debated so hard with LIS. I do think win conditions are rare, and not just because it is self-serving.

I am probably too hard to kill to allow me to win the game. You have to stab me on a night where I lose my ability to protect.

BTW, I've asked the mods to throw the knife in the Mariana Trench. Hoping they let me do that 😀

lol...
 
I do agree that the most likely consequence of stabbing SOV is a conversion. I wanted DVMDream to use it because she couldn't be converted.

That's funny. She told me she knew of a character that couldn't be converted, but I didn't know it was her. And here I was wondering if she was converted. I thought when she announced the last conversion it might have been her, and announcing it was her way to deflect attention. If I had known I could have been more at ease.
 
Why'd you let yourself get killed? 🙁

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You know how I roll...

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For now, I'm inclined to trust SOV. That is not based on any behind-the-scenes info, just seeing the logic in what he is saying.
 
Actually Frozenshades also told me she was Hook it was one of the reasons I trusted you.

I have only had one night where I had the ability to kill. I picked Hook b/c she wasn't a villager, and honestly based on what FS told me, her reason to exist was to get revenge on me. Couldn't keep her alive. But that is the only time I killed.

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Bah, I knew it.

And she? C'mon, I thought we were past this :laugh:

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lynch TRH

She was awfully quick to try to lynch me as soon as the Gold news came out. How would she know who I am? I figure the wolves know from their failed attacks on me.

Still very suspicious of Swings.. But I followed her last night and she did nothing (but it doesn't absolve her).

I am also suspicious of FF.

I had a theory that when Swings accidentally complimented FF on her almost escaping lynch she was confusing 2 of her fellow wolves (FF and Allie). DVMD was also suspicious of these 2.

I know EC isn't a wolf. DVMD believed wld wasn't a wolf.
I trust Jojo for now and Nstarz.

So not counting conversions... nora and regina must be amongst:
3. dyachei
5. Alors
6. Dwin
8. cuit
4. FantasyFlyer
5. Hedgie
6. Tuckervet
7. bbeventer
2. that redhead
5. Minnerbelle
6. The LIS
1. Lupin21
2. Swings
6. Fancy

Fancy was the fairy so not a wolf.
I trust minnerbelle was telling the truth.
And since hedgie was DVMD's contact I trust her.

dyachei, Alors ,Dwin, cuit, FantasyFlyer, Tuckervet, bbeventer, that redhead , The LIS, Lupin21, Swings

So to me there are 2 (probably more) wolves in those 11
 
lynch FF

I'm not sure what to think of SOV, but he could be telling the truth. I haven't determined if that's enough to be beneficial to us, but I know I would want some consideration in the same situation.
 
lynch TRH

She was awfully quick to try to lynch me as soon as the Gold news came out. How would she know who I am? I figure the wolves know from their failed attacks on me.

Still very suspicious of Swings.. But I followed her last night and she did nothing (but it doesn't absolve her).

I am also suspicious of FF.

I had a theory that when Swings accidentally complimented FF on her almost escaping lynch she was confusing 2 of her fellow wolves (FF and Allie). DVMD was also suspicious of these 2.

I know EC isn't a wolf. DVMD believed wld wasn't a wolf.
I trust Jojo for now and Nstarz.

So not counting conversions... nora and regina must be amongst:
3. dyachei
5. Alors
6. Dwin
8. cuit
4. FantasyFlyer
5. Hedgie
6. Tuckervet
7. bbeventer
2. that redhead
5. Minnerbelle
6. The LIS
1. Lupin21
2. Swings
6. Fancy

Fancy was the fairy so not a wolf.
I trust minnerbelle was telling the truth.
And since hedgie was DVMD's contact I trust her.

dyachei, Alors ,Dwin, cuit, FantasyFlyer, Tuckervet, bbeventer, that redhead , The LIS, Lupin21, Swings

So to me there are 2 (probably more) wolves in those 11

do you know for sure that hedgie was DVMD's contact, or are you taking her word for it?

I think there are more than 2 wolves out there. Seems like Cora and Peter Pan would be wolves, and the two we got seem like they would be wolves from the beginning, so that doesn't account for the 2 conversions.
 
TRH is not Cora or Regina. She was investigated early on. Doesn't stop her from being converted, though.
 
Tally for the mods 🙂

Lupin (1) - Minnerbelle
EC (0)
SOV (0)
TRH (6) - EC, Tuckervet, rojo, SOV, Dwin, Dyachei
FantasyFlyer/FF (1) - Dyachei

I think that's it so far
 
Tally for the mods 🙂

Lupin (1) - Minnerbelle
EC (0)
SOV (0)
TRH (6) - EC, Tuckervet, rojo, SOV, Dwin, Dyachei
FantasyFlyer/FF (1) - Dyachei

I think that's it so far


Aahhh crap!!

Sorry, that's not right!

Lupin (1) - Minnerbelle
EC (0)
SOV (0)
TRH (6) - EC, Tuckervet, rojo, SOV, Dwin, FML
FantasyFlyer/FF (1) - Dyachei
 
Unless FF has been converted, I know her role and she is a villager.

lynch TRH
 
I'm getting ready to go bed soon and don't want to get plurality lynched in my sleep. I have until 2:30pm tomorrow anyway so I don't want to role reveal so soon.

WLD, I sent you the macklemore reference. I am still that character.
Nstarz, I am still who you know me to be.
SOV, I knew you were gold, which was why I jumped to lynch you.

There has not been an actual reason to lynch me, ffs. Think, people.
 
Kinda late since they outed themselves, but I did receive an anonymous message last night stating SOV is Rump.
 
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When was the last night we thought there was a conversion? Was it right before Jimminy died?
 
So this has exactly nothing to do with the game. Have been watching season two with my day off. Snow/Charming/Good guys et. al. are really, really pissing me off. There comes a point when taking the higher ground is ignorant. I would have plunged that damn dagger straight into Cora's chest with a smile on my face as I gave the damn thing a little turn.

Just sayin'. . .
 
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