I plugged those numbers into my algorithm and 210, 240, 240 would give you nearly full points for board scores. So if you're running into problems it's unlikely to be from step 1. Other programs may do things differently, but step 1 really isn't a big consideration as long as you passed it.
Thank you so much for your insight.
I prefer that over having to log into AAMC and download the letter to just find out it’s a rejection.
The match this year is news to me. So is every program in ERAS going to enter the match, and does this include EM applicants specifically also? Does this also mean we won't find out the results of the match until March of next year? Not exactly stoked to be waiting that long...
From what I understand, not all CCM programs are entering the match but most are for ABIM programs. Match day to start fellowship in July 2022 is mid December. EM applicants applying for CCM through Anesthesia may be different.
Thanks so much! This is super helpful!
I think a lot of programs are reviewing each application one by one. Hence why it’s taking a lot of time. A lot of my colleagues from different programs are without interviews. It’s what’s keeping me sane lol
Nah, MCW did the same thing last year
Probably last year programs were running into the same issue: too many applicants, some of whom might appear as people who would in thepre-Covid world would have not applied, hence secondary looks..just my hunch
I don't think COVID changed anything about the applicants last year. The reason why I say this is that COVID hit around March, and apps were due August. That gives you 5 months to come up with some PCCM research and get 3 letters of recommendation. If you didn't have that set up beforehand, you were going to be hard pressed to put together even the bare minimum. Looking at the applications in ERAS, this data is also true, in 2019 there were 1173 applications for PCCM, and in 2020 during COVID there were 1295 applications, roughly increasing at the same rate as the years before.
Does the data show how many places the people applied to, they just show the number of total applicants, previously ppl would apply to lets say 20-30 places now if they are applying to 40-60 places that essentially doubles the amount of applications a program has to screen. Our program has received at least two times as many applications as per what the aPD tells us
Yes, 46 vs 49
If that is the case then my hypothesis would end up in the trash bin
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IMO those are probably the worst ways to become an intensivist. You will be competing with numerous nephrologists who have realized how ****ty the nephro job market/lifestyle is, in addition pulm only folks and occasional cardiologists for very few spots.
I looked at when interviews were going out last year for pulm/crit (on the prior google sheets on pg 1 of this thread) and it was averaging between 8/25-9/12. Was there a delay last year? If not, then probably safe to say we just need to give the programs more time.
I think the deadline was 8/12 last year
That would put us on the front end of the timeline. Maybe there will be more action next week in that case. For what it’s worth I’m US MD with decent board scores and big name sleep fellowship and I don’t have anything yet after 50 apps
Take the spreadsheet with a grain of salt
There was for sure. Everything else lined up, just forced the programs to review applications in a smaller time frame. ROL and Match day were unchanged.
Meaning programs may be at a slower pace for this year
Yea a “clean slate”as it were
Everything is back
I still feel like it’s a bit early. I just got my first invite today and it seems like the majority of programs have yet to send a single invite.
Yeah I did.
So does this mean EM applicants are going to be lumped in together with IM now? I read on an ACEP forum somewhere that Pitt was going to have a separate match for EM and separate for IM but I didn’t fully understand how that would be possible. Do you think it will have a significant impact on how many EM applicants get into CCM? It certainly seems like EM has more to lose with CCM joining the match than IM does wit the much larger number of IM applicants.ABIM put critical care into the subspecialty fellowship match for the first time; PCCM was there already. This affects you whether you are IM or EM because the programs don't differentiate their spots. The recommendation from APCCMPD (Association of Pulmonary and Critical Care Medicine Program Directors) is that all programs go into the match but it is ultimately up to each place to decide. In order to find out if the programs you're applying to are in the match or not you'd have to ask them. It's supposed to be updated in ERAS and everywhere else but not every place has done that. Best to just ask.
A match process certainly favors the applicant; if you were equivalently interested in CCM and PCCM you can interview for both and match into either. Before, CCM was pre-match and PCCM was in the match so if you got a prematch offer you had to decide how much you really wanted PCCM and what your odds of matching were.
If every program went into the match it would be easy. But if some are outside of the match you have to decide how interested you are in the ones that are outside and again figure out your chances with the ones that are inside the match.
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As you can see, it's not quite as long of a timeline; match day is Dec 1. The downside is that if you don't match, that's a very short amount of time to find a job before the end of residency.
I'm wondering this too. I have yet to get an interview with about half my list having sent out invites thus far. Its making me a little nervous not sure what to expect.
As with everything in medicine... it depends.
Nope bad mistake . See nephrology is dead thread in other subspecialties.
