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[The_Breadmann]

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Are you confusing me with kras? I am confused

Yep...

 

[The_Breadmann]

Are you confusing me with kras? I am confused

Yes i am

 

[hallowmann]

The last thing is someone visited the then dead body and laid down a white orchid. It's not clear what their intentions for visiting were.

Maybe it was a seer? Or was that samac? I can't remember, did samac talk to Lawpy or M935?

 

[The_Breadmann]

Yep...

Yes i am

Was not seeing the first one pop up after refreshing several times

 

[Aprilthearab]

Maybe it was a seer? Or was that samac? I can't remember, did samac talk to Lawpy or M935?

If I'm remembering correctly, Samac attempted to speak with Lawpy but that chat would have opened up after Lawpy died. (May be recalling incorrectly)

 

[kaydubs]

Day 5: They're Heeeere Yeet Tally

mayo (2) - samac, alleycat
Nasterzinger (1) - mammalade
Randomizereh (3) - supershorty, Aprilthearab, Booksandshoes
Bread (1) - mayo


7/18

Leading: @Randomizereh

Missing: many

Yeet/Vote closes at 9pm Eastern, TODAY, 12/25/2020 (~2.75 hours)

 

[mammalade]

If I'm remembering correctly, Samac attempted to speak with Lawpy but that chat would have opened up after Lawpy died. (May be recalling incorrectly)

I have a conspiracy theory that might be bonkers about what happened last night but I’m throwing it out there.
What if someone had an ability they used last night to change the targets of all the night actions? So those who died weren’t the original targets and someone had an ability to mix up all the targets of the actions.
My mayor chat not getting to Lawpy wasn’t “lol you found him dead” it was I went to send him a message and it went to someone else instead.

@Nasterzinger who were you targeting for jelly last night?

samac, did you get to talk to the someone else or did the mayor chat completely not go through?

 

[Randomizereh]

Am I being yeeted because of an absent kill on N3? If that's the case, please go back to my message earlier about a possibly 3P/vigilante villager who can only perform kills on even nights, which I think is the likely scenario here. Just because I happened to be in anvils on N3, that doesn't mean I would have performed the kills on any other night, and anvils are likely a blocking ability by probably a negative character (either wolf or 3P) so I would hope this would exempt me from the former.... The only kills that we realize are likely 3p are Haunter and Frizzle, who both have an unknown COD, and the only thing we can go off for these kills is that the ones who were in anvils those nights are not responsible for those kills.

I've been thinking about this comment a lot throughout the day. You're saying you know someone on that list is village but don't want to out them as village, can I ask the reason? By not giving is the information, my noob brain can only see how it harms the village because the villagers are the players at a disadvantage of knowledge. The wolves get to know each other from the start, and presumably the cult knows each other or at the very least the cult leader may know who've they converted. But the villagers don't get to know for certain who is a villager unless information is revealed. So if you claim "X person" is village then you haven't told the wolves or cult anything they don't know, so I assume it shouldn't put a target on them.

Of course, it doesn't necessarily mean we know your claim is credible, but it gives us something to go on. Especially if that person does turn out being otherwise soft/hard confirmed village we would know you are probably a credible source on other things you say (or at least were when you gave the info, I guess anyone can be confirmed village and then turned cult?). By not telling us I'm thinking either a) it somehow outs your role/ability or their role/ability to reveal them, and you need to keep it private, b) you maybe hadn't considered that wolves would already know who is village (I'm a noob too, it took me all this time to consider that), or c) a wolf who wants to cast doubt on that list without naming who is/are the wolves on that list because naming them would give us a wolf, so instead claiming to know someone on the list is a villager (aside from masons) without naming them casts doubt among the villagers.

All I will say right now is that I have a one-time ability that I used to find this person (so I'm practically useless now plz don't kill me wolves). However, with this new cultist modification I don't know if that changed anything but I am confident so far that I can trust this person. I would like to avoid outing this person for their sake so they don't get targeted in the future, but if I end up getting yeeted I may end up identifying (if I'm allowed, idk need to talk to my manator).

 

[Aprilthearab]

I would like to avoid outing this person for their sake so they don't get targeted in the future, but if I end up getting yeeted I may end up identifying (if I'm allowed, idk need to talk to my manator).

If it seems like you're very likely to get yeeted, you can identify (if you think it's a good idea of course) right before the vote ends at 9 but I think after that (unsure if after vote closes or after writeup, but I think the latter) you won't be able to post any information because you'll be dead.

 

[Aprilthearab]

Day 5: They're Heeeere Yeet Tally

mayo (2) - samac, alleycat
Nasterzinger (1) - mammalade
Randomizereh (4) - supershorty, Aprilthearab, Booksandshoes, mayo
Bread (1) - mayo


8/18

Leading: @Randomizereh

Missing: many

Yeet/Vote + Election closes at 9pm Eastern, TODAY, 12/25/2020 (~2.75 hours)

Mayo's vote is counted twice?

 

[kaydubs]

Yeet Radom

Because it's Christmas, and I'm not sure how much I'll be able to log back in to defend myself.

I think we should be going for alleycat, but I need to be on the right side of the numbers to keep wolf hunting and Random is also sus.

Unyeet Bread first

 

[kaydubs]

Mayo's vote is counted twice?

Good catch.

 

[TelemarketingEnigma]

another night, another vote that i have no idea what to do with. something still isn't sitting right with me about this last m395 visit or zepp's message (given cult situation) so i'm gonna tentatively say

yeet zeppelyn

i'm still likely to panic change this vote again sometime in the next two hours as usual. and if someone wants to vouch for zepp or tell me why i should feel differently I'm happy to hear it and reconsider. I've made plenty of bad votes already so I appreciate any push towards yeeting an actual wolf or cultist

 

[alleycat03]

I honestly don't know who to yeet. I've had such bad luck, that I feel like I can't trust any of these arguments. The arguments for Random make the most sense for me at the moment, but I don't know.

Can someone, @samac and @alleycat03 explain the argument for mayo?


Can cults convert village, 3P, and wolves to cultists? That would make sense, but just wanted to confirm.

Yeet Mayo

I don’t totally buy the theory about Random, and I think we should be focusing on yeeting a wolf.

I know the roles are RNG, but I feel like at least one of the more experienced players would be a wolf. Lawpy and M935 were village, and Kras has been soft-confirmed village/mason. Also, Mayo led the group to try and yeet me, without giving much of an explanation, even after I revealed my role and asked several times why they thought I was a wolf. This is not a retaliatory vote, but I think they are definitely trying to get villagers voted out and leading a bandwagon that’s at least partially sus.

here is my Mayo vote explanation. I get wolfy vibes from them and I can’t shake the feeling that they are not a villager and need to be eliminated.

I just don’t feel like any of the other players give me the same Wolfy vibes. I don’t want to yeet random even if they are a 3P, because if they are a vigilante they are helping us by killing scum, and if they are a villager, we need them to keep our numbers as far away from Parity as possible.


Someone said it more eloquently above, but I don’t see any way how random is a wolf, so yeeting them seems like a bad idea.


mayo’s main reason for wanting to yeet me is because of supposedly suspicious votes for sunshine and Cessna. I’ve explained myself numerous time. I trusted M935 and didn’t want a tie, and I was led to believe sunny was scum because of Lawpy. I don’t think my votes on either of those nights suggest that I am a wolf, but Mayo disagrees.

 

[Aprilthearab]

So I've read through literally every post Random has made on this thread and I am doubting the suspicion there now. Yes, it does conveniently line up that there wasn't a second kill on the night Random was surrounded by anvils. However, if they had an ability that made them capable of killing someone every single night, it might not even have been a good idea to in case of suspicion. There is also the argument about the possibility of someone killing on even nights and maybe another having the ability to kill only a fixed number of times through the game.

Reading back, none of Random's posts seem sus. They were inactive at first but had a good reason and were productive and contributing and enthusiastic when they were here. They have admitted they're very busy and needed time to catch up. Some other people who are keeping quiet have minimal posts, don't mention that they're busy, and don't contribute much reasoning when they do post, which is more sus to me. Random seems genuine.

Yes, Random did vote to yeet Sun at first, but a whole lot of us did too. They gave some reasoning, although not based on much but none of us had much based on anything either. Random did vote to yeet Bio at the last minute, but the vote didn't even count because it wasn't on time, and they admitted they regretted their vote and hoped it didn't go through. They voted for bio the day before with some reasoning so they were sticking to who they believed to be sus, not throwing their vote around to try to swing the vote.

If I'm wrong, you guys are allowed to call me out for it, but I believe Random. So, for now,

Unyeet Random

And I will think of better candidates once I'm out of the bath.

 

[holdthemayo]

Mayo's vote is counted twice?

Unyeet Bread first

Good catch. Thank you.

Unyeet bread
Yeet Radom

 

[Aprilthearab]

Further in defense of Random because I forgot to include a couple things -

Random was very quick to admit they were surrounded by anvils the same night that another kill wasn't made. If they intended to kill but were blocked by anvils, Random would have known that and wouldn't have jumped to admit it.

Another thing, Random admitted they have an ability but don't want to identify who it was. If Random really was malicious, they likely would have either said straight up who was village in an attempt to either target that person or have protections put upon them instead of someone else who could then be killed, OR they just wouldn't have told anyone. Saying that they have an ability could make themselves a target and is a brave move that I don't think is malicious.

 

[supershorty]

Does anyone have any evidence of Mayo being a wolf other than this sort of “gut feeling” because I feel like we relied on gut feelings before and it never resulted in a good outcome for us.

I’m open to changing my vote, but I feel like there’s not really a lot of evidence (circumstantial or otherwise) for anyone other than Random right now. And even for random, there’s not much - but there’s something. 🤷🏻‍♀️

 

[holdthemayo]

I’m on my phone and having formatting issues, but @holdthemayo , am I remembering right that you were surrounded by anvils one night too?

I missed this before. Yes, I just got it.

 

[mammalade]

Further in defense of Random because I forgot to include a couple things -

Random was very quick to admit they were surrounded by anvils the same night that another kill wasn't made. If they intended to kill but were blocked by anvils, Random would have known that and wouldn't have jumped to admit it.

Another thing, Random admitted they have an ability but don't want to identify who it was. If Random really was malicious, they likely would have either said straight up who was village in an attempt to either target that person or have protections put upon them instead of someone else who could then be killed, OR they just wouldn't have told anyone. Saying that they have an ability could make themselves a target and is a brave move that I don't think is malicious.

I agree that not everything seems to be adding up to Random being a wolf, but I’m still not sure about them.

That’s why I’m leaving my vote on Nasterzinger. I feel like Nas isn’t a villager at the very least. I laid out my reasoning here:

You're growing stronger? Okay maybe weird choice of words but this put a theory in my mind. I've suspected Nas was 3p because of the weird messages, but assumed they were on a harmless search for jelly. The phrasing "growing stronger" made me think they might not be harmless? Irl cults are known to do some weird things, and jelly makes me think of kool-aid lol, and now that we know there is a cult at play the jelly thing seems more sus to me.

If anything, I'm solidly convinced nas is 3p as of now, and since I'm unsure who is village and who is wolf, at the risk of yeeting another villager I will choose someone who I believe to be 3p





Yeet Nasterzinger

What’s the case for Mayo? I think I missed that one

 

[samac]

samac, did you get to talk to the someone else or did the mayor chat completely not go through?

It did go to a random person.

Am I being yeeted because of an absent kill on N3? If that's the case, please go back to my message earlier about a possibly 3P/vigilante villager who can only perform kills on even nights, which I think is the likely scenario here. Just because I happened to be in anvils on N3, that doesn't mean I would have performed the kills on any other night, and anvils are likely a blocking ability by probably a negative character (either wolf or 3P) so I would hope this would exempt me from the former.... The only kills that we realize are likely 3p are Haunter and Frizzle, who both have an unknown COD, and the only thing we can go off for these kills is that the ones who were in anvils those nights are not responsible for those kills.


All I will say right now is that I have a one-time ability that I used to find this person (so I'm practically useless now plz don't kill me wolves). However, with this new cultist modification I don't know if that changed anything but I am confident so far that I can trust this person. I would like to avoid outing this person for their sake so they don't get targeted in the future, but if I end up getting yeeted I may end up identifying (if I'm allowed, idk need to talk to my manator).

It’s time to let it out. Don’t have to tell us any kind of abilities or anything they have but throw out the name.

 

[Randomizereh]

here is my Mayo vote explanation. I get wolfy vibes from them and I can’t shake the feeling that they are not a villager and need to be eliminated.

I just don’t feel like any of the other players give me the same Wolfy vibes. I don’t want to yeet random even if they are a 3P, because if they are a vigilante they are helping us by killing scum, and if they are a villager, we need them to keep our numbers as far away from Parity as possible.

mayo’s main reason for wanting to yeet me is because of supposedly suspicious votes for sunshine and Cessna. I’ve explained myself numerous time. I trusted M935 and didn’t want a tie, and I was led to believe sunny was scum because of Lawpy. I don’t think my votes on either of those nights suggest that I am a wolf, but Mayo disagrees.

So for the first couple days, I was so sure that mayo was villager just because how the first election went (I know, pretty nooby trustworthyness). Mayo was also against voting Lawpy and sunshine at first, who we now have confirmation are villagers. This could be a wolfy tactic of trying to make themselves look innocent, but currently I think I am against the mayo vote (unless someone can convince me otherwise), even though mayo looks hell bent on yeeting me.

 

[holdthemayo]

So for the first couple days, I was so sure that mayo was villager just because how the first election went (I know, pretty nooby trustworthyness). Mayo was also against voting Lawpy and sunshine at first, who we now have confirmation are villagers. This could be a wolfy tactic of trying to make themselves look innocent, but currently I think I am against the mayo vote (unless someone can convince me otherwise), even though mayo looks hell bent on yeeting me.

Not at all. I said I don't think you are where the vote should go. I just know it shouldn't go on me.

 

[holdthemayo]

I agree that not everything seems to be adding up to Random being a wolf, but I’m still not sure about them.

That’s why I’m leaving my vote on Nasterzinger. I feel like Nas isn’t a villager at the very least. I laid out my reasoning here:

This is what makes sense to me right now. My Random vote is in self-interest, but avoiding voting myself out just to vote out another villager doesn't help us.

Unyeet Random
Yeet Nasterzinger

 

[samac]

I agree that not everything seems to be adding up to Random being a wolf, but I’m still not sure about them.

That’s why I’m leaving my vote on Nasterzinger. I feel like Nas isn’t a villager at the very least. I laid out my reasoning here:


What’s the case for Mayo? I think I missed that one

To be perfectly honest, I don’t have a good reason.
I just thought the mods would make an experienced player a wolf and when I go back through and look they seem to be interactions about the only fingers he’s pointed are toward alleycat. Otherwise he’s towed the line.
I’ve also noticed alleycat has been firmly in the safe bandwagon camp every day.
I could answer why random would volunteer that info and keep killing: he didn’t know better. It’s a noob game

I’m also very curious who’s going to be silenced in a lab tonight.

 

[WildZoo]

Day 5: They're Heeeere Yeet Tally

mayo (3) - samac, alleycat, naster
Nasterzinger (2) - mammalade, mayo
Randomizereh (2) - supershorty, Booksandshoes
Bread ()
Zepp (1) - enigma


8/18

Leading: @holdthemayo

Missing: many

Yeet/Vote + Election closes at 9pm Eastern, TODAY, 12/25/2020 (~1.25 hours)

 

[holdthemayo]

To be perfectly honest, I don’t have a good reason.
I just thought the mods would make an experienced player a wolf and when I go back through and look they seem to be interactions about the only fingers he’s pointed are toward alleycat. Otherwise he’s towed the line.
I’ve also noticed alleycat has been firmly in the safe bandwagon camp every day.
I could answer why random would volunteer that info and keep killing: he didn’t know better. It’s a noob game

I’m also very curious who’s going to be silenced in a lab tonight.

I've been trying for alleycat for 2 days. Lawpy made a case against alleycat multiple times too.

I think it's unlikely Nasterzinger is village, so I'm willing to vote there tonight if I can't get the alleycat vote going.

 

[Vet01]

Probably not visc because they have been soft confirmed as villager with samac

Are you confusing me with kras? I am confused

I might be focusing on these two lines too much, but I am a little confused on why you pointed this out? Wouldn't it be in your best interest if Bread accidentally soft confirmed you? It might have just been a nice clarification point, but it looks more like a wolf move, in my opinion. My past research and this simple mistake still make me stuck on yeeting you.

yeet Vis

 

[supershorty]

I'm not convinced on anyone at this point. I'm suspicious of random, vet01, alleycat, and Nas (I don't think Nas is necessarily wolf, but I don't think they're village either, and the phrase of growing stronger was weird).

For now,
Unyeet Random

 

[The_Breadmann]

I might be focusing on these two lines too much, but I am a little confused on why you pointed this out? Wouldn't it be in your best interest if Bread accidentally soft confirmed you? It might have just been a nice clarification point, but it looks more like a wolf move, in my opinion. My past research and this simple mistake still make me stuck on yeeting you.

yeet Vis

I confused vis with kras

 

[holdthemayo]

I think we might be at the point in the game where it is helpful to throw out some village/wolf reads:

My very strong village reads (ignoring cult posibility) are:
Zep
Samac
lumya
kras



Likely Wolves:
Alleycat
Nasterzinger
Vet01
+/- Bread


Everyone else is shades of grey in between

 

[TelemarketingEnigma]

I might be focusing on these two lines too much, but I am a little confused on why you pointed this out? Wouldn't it be in your best interest if Bread accidentally soft confirmed you? It might have just been a nice clarification point, but it looks more like a wolf move, in my opinion. My past research and this simple mistake still make me stuck on yeeting you.

yeet Vis

It would have been a smarter wolf move to let it slide (unless someone else caught the mistake) and potentially confuse people into thinking they had just missed a soft confirm

 

[Randomizereh]

I might be focusing on these two lines too much, but I am a little confused on why you pointed this out? Wouldn't it be in your best interest if Bread accidentally soft confirmed you? It might have just been a nice clarification point, but it looks more like a wolf move, in my opinion. My past research and this simple mistake still make me stuck on yeeting you.

yeet Vis

I'm not sure I agree with this, I would think the opposite; that it would be more suspicious if they had stuck with the confirmation. Because Vis had fixed the comment about themself not being soft confirmed, I would think this would make them look more innocent

 

[holdthemayo]

I might be focusing on these two lines too much, but I am a little confused on why you pointed this out? Wouldn't it be in your best interest if Bread accidentally soft confirmed you? It might have just been a nice clarification point, but it looks more like a wolf move, in my opinion. My past research and this simple mistake still make me stuck on yeeting you.

yeet Vis

I read that the other way.

It would be in their best interest to let bread think they were soft confirmed if they were actually a wolf.

The honesty moved them up on my village list.

 

[Randomizereh]

I'm sticking with my thoughts from the beginning; if I end up dying tonight, I would love to have a mayor chat (though it is up to the mayor), but totally not required.

yeet Vet01

 

[Vet01]

Welp, confirmation on Lawpy’s predicament. The idea that it’s a drawback from using their ability instead of something inflicted on them by someone else is intriguing 🤔

This is kind of way back and far fetched, but Vis tried to convince everyone that Lawpy's ability was a drawback and not inflicted by someone else. Now that we know it more than likely wasn't a drawback, it definitely makes me believe that Vis is the one who captured Lawpy every night.

 

[samac]

So how did we land on vet?

 

[Zeppelyn]

@kraskadva what were your thoughts when you voted for Vis before? I'm thinking he's a 3P or wolf, which is better than voting for a villager at this point.

 

[The_Breadmann]

Does the mayor chat happen at night ?

 

[supershorty]

I don't know that I'm confident enough in my judgment to make a list of who I think is village vs wolf vs cult vs 3p, but I'm pretty sure that whatever Nas is, it's not village.

I feel like I'm completely unsure about everyone else other than samac and kras, but Vis correcting bread strikes me as a noob move that wouldn't make sense for a wolf to do. I think vis is probably village.

 

[Zeppelyn]

So how did we land on vet?

I have no idea. I haven't picked out anything wolfy on him and everything else on thread seems like honest mistakes so now I'm wondering.

 

[The_Breadmann]

I don't know that I'm confident enough in my judgment to make a list of who I think is village vs wolf vs cult vs 3p, but I'm pretty sure that whatever Nas is, it's not village.

I feel like I'm completely unsure about everyone else other than samac and kras, but Vis correcting bread strikes me as a noob move that wouldn't make sense for a wolf to do. I think vis is probably village.

Not arguing for or against vis but it would also look bad for a wolf if they ran with it and someone questioned it.

 

[Randomizereh]

So how did we land on vet?

I'm just basing on the wolfy list made, but I could definitely be wrong.

 

[mammalade]

Not arguing for or against vis but it would also look bad for a wolf if they ran with it and someone questioned it.

I think Vis correcting Bread says nothing about them being wolf vs village. As pointed out, it could make sense for a wolf or vilager to correct it, and it would have taken me only a moment to find that post I made summarizing the samac/kras soft confirm to prove it was kras not Vis who was soft confirmed so it wouldn't have caused any true confusion because we all have access to the thread history to go and check who it actually was.

 

[samac]

Does the mayor chat happen at night ?

It’s during the day, but yeah it did happen but it wasn’t with my intended target.

 

[mammalade]

It’s during the day, but yeah it did happen but it wasn’t with my intended target.

Did you learn anything that could help us find a wolf? Or at the very least someone who isn't a villager?

 

[samac]

@kraskadva what were your thoughts when you voted for Vis before? I'm thinking he's a 3P or wolf, which is better than voting for a villager at this point.

I’ll let Kras step in but I’m guessing it’s because he along with Alleycat have been comfortably in bandwagon everyday.

Did you learn anything that could help us find a wolf? Or at the very least someone who isn't a villager?

Unfortunately it was with a vanilla villager who doesn’t have much to help.

 

[Zeppelyn]

This is kind of way back and far fetched, but Vis tried to convince everyone that Lawpy's ability was a drawback and not inflicted by someone else. Now that we know it more than likely wasn't a drawback, it definitely makes me believe that Vis is the one who captured Lawpy every night.

I never thought of that. Vis had a few posts that seemed leading or diverting to me so I thought of him of at least a 3p. He too forcefully "a villager" imo without having to defend himself from votes.

 

[alleycat03]

can someone explain why being part of a bandwagon is bad? I was trying to follow the more experienced players (and avoid the tie) and now it seems to have cast suspicion on me.

 

[WildZoo]

Day 5: They're Heeeere Yeet Tally

mayo (3) - samac, alleycat, naster
Nasterzinger (2) - mammalade, mayo
Randomizereh (1) - Booksandshoes
Bread ()
Zepp (1) - enigma
Vis (1) - Vet01
Vet01 (1) - random


9/18

Leading: @holdthemayo

Missing: @Zeppelyn @supershorty @Aprilthearab @hallowmann @lumya @Viscernable @vetschoolsletmeinplease @The_Breadmann @kraskadva

Yeet/Vote + Election closes at 9pm Eastern, TODAY, 12/25/2020 (~ 38 minutes)