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[mammalade]

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You know I have to say the worst/best part of the game is feeling super inclined to believe everyone. Everytime someone talks, I seriously doubt my previous thoughts and decisions.


What is the evidence that anvils are clearly wolf things to begin with? I know Random mentioned it, but I don't remember why. Wily coyote?

meant it to read more as many are thinking april may have anvils because its unclaimed and that many are also determined its a wolf thing (iirc), not necessarily that's its clearly 100% a wolf thing because I suppose there could be some kind of blacksmith villager cartoon or something. But I think it was based on the pattern of who was in anvils.

Anvils
N1: Aprilthearab
N2: kraskadva
N3: Randomizereh
N4: holdthemayo
N5: Nas
N6: Bread
N7: Randomizereh
N8: Vetschoolplz

(I left anyone whos still alive in black text)

holdtheymayo was in anvils and was a wolf, so it could be that anvils is not a wolf thing. Could also mean that the wolves aren't above anviling themselves. Anviling vetschoolsplz I could see as wolves stopping them from using their ability or a villager protecting them, idk and wish someone would claim anvils

 

[supershorty]

Random's story is the kind that someone could make up as a lie to connect seemingly separate things, but i don't think that's the case - they stood up for me when i was pretty close to being yeeted, and there would be no point in a wolf doing that, so I'm inclined to believe them (and it seems to align with their previous postings, so it would be a complicated long con)

This is why I'm inclined to believe Random, and also why I'm inclined to believe mammal - because the amount of creative writing it would take to come up with this lengthy story or that flower power on the fly would be pretty amazing.

I also am inclined to believe you, TME, because I feel like our actions on each other actually confirm what both of us have said relatively well. You tried to kill me and I redirected it with no control over where it landed. I have to admit that I didn't think an attempted murder would turn into a bonding experience of being like "yo, this person is legit," but if I've learned anything about WW, it's that the unexpected frequently happens The fact that mayo was so on board with us being at each other's throats makes me more certain, too.

I want to believe everyone, but someone isn't telling the truth... and I just feel like April has been selling the whole vanillager thing really, really hard recently.

Someone claim the anvils and explain your reasoning for using them, please!

 

[Aprilthearab]

Day 5: Hallows. We still don't know their true affiliation. Another independent wasted vote. I do realize that Vis was on the chopping block that night. I voted for Hallows for the same reason I didn't vote for Vis: I was very busy that day and missed a lot of what was going on from skimming. Like I said earlier, I skimmed and missed the part where Hallows was called out by Bugs. Vis was kind of a lucky guess, no one had any solid evidence and I was afraid it was another villager. I had a hard time getting a read on Vis and didn't want to take that chance that they were village. At first I was voting off Random, but then spent literally all of my available time and energy looking into them and found quite a bit to vouch for them with. Still don't know if that was the right decision, but I was very inclined to believe they were village, and had more reason to vote for Hallows than Random.

So I've read through literally every post Random has made on this thread and I am doubting the suspicion there now. Yes, it does conveniently line up that there wasn't a second kill on the night Random was surrounded by anvils. However, if they had an ability that made them capable of killing someone every single night, it might not even have been a good idea to in case of suspicion. There is also the argument about the possibility of someone killing on even nights and maybe another having the ability to kill only a fixed number of times through the game.

Reading back, none of Random's posts seem sus. They were inactive at first but had a good reason and were productive and contributing and enthusiastic when they were here. They have admitted they're very busy and needed time to catch up. Some other people who are keeping quiet have minimal posts, don't mention that they're busy, and don't contribute much reasoning when they do post, which is more sus to me. Random seems genuine.

Yes, Random did vote to yeet Sun at first, but a whole lot of us did too. They gave some reasoning, although not based on much but none of us had much based on anything either. Random did vote to yeet Bio at the last minute, but the vote didn't even count because it wasn't on time, and they admitted they regretted their vote and hoped it didn't go through. They voted for bio the day before with some reasoning so they were sticking to who they believed to be sus, not throwing their vote around to try to swing the vote.

If I'm wrong, you guys are allowed to call me out for it, but I believe Random. So, for now,

Unyeet Random

And I will think of better candidates once I'm out of the bath.

Feeling really sus about Hallows, gives off a wolfy vibe. Little contribution, little explanation - a lot of only posting votes, fishy wording about "yeet me, whatever" then "I don't want to be yeeted" early on. Lawpy was sus of Hallows too. Attaching quotes for you guys to ponder. Being pulled into a sudden movie-watching thing and they're waiting for me so this is all I have to offer before I bolt, and unfortunately I won't be here for the tally unless I decide that I'm sick of my boyfriend's family only watching horror movies and I come back. If you guys have good reason to believe otherwise, just ignore me. These are all Hallow's posts and a couple referencing him in the first halfish of the thread.

Yeet Hallows

Edited because I said "boyfriend's movie" instead of "boyfriend's family" and it was confusing

 

[Aprilthearab]

I want to believe everyone, but someone isn't telling the truth... and I just feel like April has been selling the whole vanillager thing really, really hard recently.

I thought I was actually quite late to the role-reveal party, lol. I haven't really done much to try to defend myself or my votes up until now besides saying "I'm sorry I'm clueless, there's a reason for it."

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

Hi everyone if someone could tag me w a tldr of what’s happening
We got slammed with a really tragic emergency at work and I couldn’t come on during lunch
I’ll try to check my phone again in about an hour

 

[Aprilthearab]

I'm going to take a minute to eat dinner because my boyfriend is letting his food get cold waiting for me to join him. I'll let you guys process what I've posted and see if the climate has changed at all (from the looks of it, probably not) when I come back.

 

[hallowmann]

Hi everyone if someone could tag me w a tldr of what’s happening
We got slammed with a really tragic emergency at work and I couldn’t come on during lunch
I’ll try to check my phone again in about an hour

I feel like the quotes below cover most of it. Its not really tl;dr, but I think it's the closest we got. A lot happened 😆

So I initially assumed the anvils were a wolf-ability, just because in one of the night write-ups someone heard gears creaking and metal before they died and I thought those might be related. Also, it looks like a lot of the anvils went to villagers (villager: 4, wolf: 1, unknown: 2). I'm wondering if a wolf anviled vetschools so they wouldn't be able to use their scanner ability.

However, it's a fair point that anvils can be a protecting ability as well. When I was anviled on N3, I wasn't able to use any of my abilities. Unless someone would like to proclaim that they tried to use an ability on me on N3, on April on N1, or on Bread on N6, I don't know if there's any way we can prove this.

my thoughts: of the 8 remaining players, 4 of us have professed to have some specific ability, though we could of course be lying. of these, ones I think we can confirm pretty solidly:
vetsplz - batscanning. Everything they've said so far has checked out between multiple players, and they called out a wolf, so I think this is the safest confirmation.
Me - vigilante. I suppose i could always be hiding a second ability, but i think it's pretty clear by now that I did what I did, even if some will question my motives.
Shorty - redirection. Other than shorty's statements I don't think we can confidently answer questions about its directedness and whether it was used last night, but i think it's pretty safe to say they have this ability even if we don't know all the details

Soft confirms/strongly suspected abilities:
Random - vapor blocking. This is a little harder to pin down since it's only supposedly been used once, by lumya, on me, so it's possible there's something odd going on, but I think so far it checks out, and no one else has tried to claim this ability as their own. As shorty pointed out, they could have an extra ability.
Hallows - bugs/tricks. not sure what the end goal of this one is, but so far it seems to check out.

that leaves ~3 unassigned actions, and 3 un-abilitied players. if the wolves have one (or more) of the remaining abilities, they've got at least a 50/50 shot of guessing yours. Knowing more about the abilities each villager has, and how they were used, can help us sus out the remaining wolves. We're approaching the end game at this point, so I think more knowledge is valuable. Definitely see what your manator says though, because they know more about your role than I do

I agree: I went back and updated Enigma's list of abilities used on each day:

Anvils
N1: Aprilthearab
N2: kraskadva
N3: Randomizereh
N4: holdthemayo
N5: Nas
N6: Bread
N7: Randomizereh
N8: Vetschoolplz

Stuffed in a room
N1:
N2: Matt
N3: Samac
N4: kras
N5: Samac
N6:
N7:
N8: Enigma

Orchids
N1:
N2:
N3:
N4: M395
N5:
N6: Bread
N7:
N8:

Trick/Bug announcement

N1:
N2: --
N3: Lawpy
N4: Hallowmann (trick?)
N5: Hallowmann (trick?)
N6: --
N7: Random
N8: Bread

Based on this, unless someone has the ability to use 2 abilities on each night, there are definitely 4 different/separate abilities going on here. I don't think I sus April right now, but if I don't get any answers soon about what's going on (this orchid sitch is driving me crazy) I might start to think differently...

Sorry I haven’t posted a lot today, I’ve been chatting up my mandator. So I think the wolves maybe figured out what I can do, or at least were suspicious of me. I think it makes sense to role reveal now because if I’m voted out today then we lose a villager in the day and the wolves probably kill again at night, so that’s two villagers, but if I role reveal and we manage to vote out a wolf then hopefully we win (if there was one wolf) or are closer to winning, unless we end up voting for a different villager and still loose two villagers (from voting and wolves).

I’m behind the orchids, if I successfully give one to a wolf then they are weakened the next night. I can give them on even nights. On N2 I gave one to Cessna, they didn’t mention seeing the orchid so I thought they could be a wolf hiding that they got the orchid, but I didn’t want to come out and say why I thought that in order to not reveal my ability, plus they were bandwagoned so there was no need for me to try to convince anyone… but then Cessna was a villager so idk. On N4 I tried to give one to M935, as I mentioned on D4 I voted for M935 primarily to abstain but figured what the heck, they could be a wolf, and I don’t think the flowers hurt non-wolves if they weren’t one. But instead I found their dead body. Then on N6 I tried giving one to breads, I’ve voiced suspicion of breads before, but I found a bunch of anvils and left it near there. On N8 I tried to give one to April because I wasn’t sure about the vanillager claim but I ended up getting confused so I don’t think they got it.

actions that could have been redirected from alley (that we know of - a reflected action may not have been announced though! in fact i suspect it would be unlikely as it could implicate them)

Actions on alley
N5 - “multiple actions” - scan from vetsplz, ?
N6 - one action, redirected scan from vetsplz
N7 - one action - ?


Possibilities
N5 - anvils on Nas, samac stuffed in room, bugs announcement about hallowman
N7 - anvils on random, bugs announcement about random. Unknown if bread put anyone in a room

also if bread locks people in his room, I suppose there is a chance this could result in extra misdirections? if someone tried to target bread? but doesn't seem like anything consistent with that has happened



okay so you don't need a rest night! that checks out then

Sorry guys, have been pretty busy at work.

Since everyone is role revealing, I might as well. I'm not technically bugs, I just have the ability to "frame" someone in the write up odd nights, but its kind of useless because on the 1st night I had no idea, and when no info on people so my framing at first was random based on who I suspected to be wolves, and 2nd, once someone who is framed turns village no one trusts the framing, so I've just been using it to point to people I didn't think were wolves, like Lawpy, alley, and Random, since everyone would assume it was opposites. That's why on N5 I ended up framing myself, plus I figured it would soft confirm alleycat was who she said she was, which is why I believed her and haven't voted against her since. If you guys remember I offered that suggestion up before I did it, but seems like bread did too.

I wish I had more to add than that, but I really have no more info than what's been in the thread. I don't feel like I could be confident in Mammalade, April, shorty and TME being village, so I never named them. I think 1-2 of them are wolves, but like I said, I have no more info than what's in the thread.

Mwuahaha, it's my turn for role reveal:

My character is awesome. I have multiple abilities that I can use, however I can only use each one once, and only once per day. That's why I am no longer able to use my blocking ability when lumya stole it; she must have 'used it up', and because my abilities are one-time-use, I was unable to use it after that. I used my other superpowers to find out who certain people; I'm the one who told samac that Hallowmann is 3p, and Alleycat is villager (I won't say what abilities they are, but you can assume).

So last night, I was SO sure mammalade was a wolf, so I used my redirect ability (yes, I do have one as well, but with mine I can choose who to redirect to, which is why I was so suspicious of Shorty for not being able to do the same) from mammalade to alleycat. When I asked the mods about my redirect ability, they told me it depends per game how exactly a redirect ability works and whether it can redirect kills or not. I hopefully assumed that my ability could redirect kills, and if mammalade tried to kill someone (anyone) or even anvil a player, it would be redirected to alleycat, then alleycat's reflect would either kill the wolf (I was actually really looking forward to this) or reflect the ability.

Now, when alleycat DIED you can imagine my horror; I was SO sure that I had successfully redirected mammalade from killing someone (idk who) to killing alleycat (which I felt incredibly bad about), so this morning I was so ready to yeet out mammalade. This was also why I was so sure this morning that we had 2 wolves still remaining; one (mammalade) to kill, and the other to use their anvil ability (which I did not redirect). But I wanted to hear his story first before telling my story, and especially everyone else's too because I wanted to figure out what happened during the night. I'm confused about mammal's story about what happened last night, because I would assume either if mammal had visited before alleycat then he would have recieved his own orchid instead, or if he visited alleycat after she died, she would have received the orchid on her dead body since she can no longer reflect (since she's dead). Idk what happened there, and I'm hoping mammal can clear things up soon.

Mammalade's story technically checks out. I can detect no lies or suspiciousness in his story. Plus, I trust that white orchid are a good sign. Bread's story also checks out (I think, if I didn’t miss anything), and I am certain Hallowmann is 3p (unless he has a disguising skill as well to hide his identity from me, which is certainly possible). Therefore, I am following logic that we are missing the owner of the anvil ability, which I'm sure belongs to April now. From the beginning, I have assumed that anvil=wolf (if you need reasoning, you can look back at my posts or I can say it again no problem). If I am wrong, I cry. But for now:

yeet April

TLDR: I am a powerful being with many skills but suck at reasoning so idk if I'm right but I double checked my notes so here ya go.

Home now! I guess I should start with an official role reveal even though I already told you all my affiliation days ago. I'm CatDog, a vanilla villager. The mods put in my initial role description that my vote is my only weapon. As mentioned before, my manator said I could send silly "actions" for the fun of it. Since I'm not a particularly creative person, I only did that twice: N1, Dog and Cat discussed where in their body the anal glands might be. Mods noted it and that night I was surrounded by anvils (unrelated, of course). N4, Dog found some stuffed shells and ate too many. Mods said I narrowly missed a close call with pancreatitis (such fantastic vet mods!). This is 100% of the content in my role chat. Nothing has happened in it for so long that it no longer pops up in my messages dropdown.

When the game started, I thought for sure I'd be able to keep up by reading everything when I got home and then getting involved. That's what I did the first day of the game, and obviously, that didn't go over well since I came back to hundreds of responses to read:

That's when I realized that I would definitely have to keep up while I was at work for the following weeks, especially considering that 400 mile drive was hours shorter than my typical work day. Those of you who work in vet hospitals (and human, probably) might understand how difficult it is to be on your phone during work hours. When calls stop coming in for five seconds, I might think I have a minute to read posts, then someone yells for me to come hold a fractious cat. The only way I was going to keep up and participate was by skimming hard core and posting with the knowledge I assumed I had retained correctly. Even on my lunch breaks, I definitely don't have the time to go back and re-read everything, because my lunch breaks are always interrupted by some dummy client knocking on the door instead of calling in.

That's why I don't always have my facts straight. I'm not trying to deceive anyone. If I was, I wouldn't be so willing to say "oh crap, you're completely right" every time someone points out something I said wrong.

I would hope y'all have noticed that I've never had any concrete evidence to provide to anyone. As I've said before, that's because all the information I have is what I've gathered from this thread and nowhere else. Every time I've suggested someone for a yeet, I've made it clear that I'm flying by the seat of my pants and am very willing to listen to the other side of the argument.

I'll dive into vote history now because I'm sure that wasn't convincing enough for all of you.

 

[TelemarketingEnigma]

Hi everyone if someone could tag me w a tldr of what’s happening
We got slammed with a really tragic emergency at work and I couldn’t come on during lunch
I’ll try to check my phone again in about an hour

the tl;dr: everybody's claiming roles, no one is fessing up to anvils, April is defending her vote history

claimed roles:

Random - multiple single use abilities (vapor blocking me, read Hollow as 3P, redirected mammalade to alley last night)
Hallow - Bugs, can accuse someone in the writeup.
TME - vigilante
Shorty - redirection (can't pick target)
mammal - orchids. if given to a wolf, weakens them the next night
vetschool - batscan (beeps). reads roles
bread - shoves people in his room. uses as protective ability.

April - vanilla. no claimed role.
unclaimed: anvils

 

[Aprilthearab]

Think it would be better to try and pull doubt on anothers powers from how they have spoken

Could you elaborate on this a bit more? I'm trying to figure out what you mean. Better to defend myself by poking holes in their arguments instead of defending my own?

 

[The_Breadmann]

Could you elaborate on this a bit more? I'm trying to figure out what you mean. Better to defend myself by poking holes in their arguments instead of defending my own?

Yep

 

[The_Breadmann]

Sorry, just got busy on a day i was hoping to loaf around on.

 

[The_Breadmann]

Gotta keep the streak going!

 

[Aprilthearab]

Everything has come down to revolving around role reveals and abilities. I wasn't aware it was so common for people to have abilities. I definitely thought a majority were vanilla vils or wolves and there were a handful of people with special abilities. Apparently everyone now needs to have an ability to be credible?! I'm actually at the point where I'm thinking I might be the last villager and the rest of you guys are wolves because holy crap, you all have buddy-buddied each other except for me because my character isn't special.

I am the least threat to anyone. No one has ties to me because I don't have anything (abilities, wolf friends) to be tied to. Everyone is having a hard time tracking my history in the writeups because I have no role in the writeups. Wolves haven't killed me off because I am completely useless except for keeping village numbers up. Villagers haven't killed me off because 1) I'm one of them and 2) I again don't have any suspicious ties to any kind of ability or killing.

 

[Aprilthearab]

What I'm saying is, if you are villager and you know you're villager, you need to take a look at the people around you because they're the people you're going to have to fight tomorrow if I'm dead (unless the game ends with a wolf win tonight because I'm the last villager).

 

[TelemarketingEnigma]

What I'm saying is, if you are villager and you know you're villager, you need to take a look at the people around you because they're the people you're going to have to fight tomorrow if I'm dead (unless the game ends with a wolf win tonight because I'm the last villager).

There are at most 3 wolves left in the game (if there were 4, village would have lost this morning with alleycat's death). We haven't had a true vanilla villager revealed since sunshine's yeet on Day 2. Though i will say i am surprised at the balance of powers, it's definitely made the game fun

what is your theory on who has the anvils? I think that should be the key to your defense.

 

[supershorty]

One thing this last week has taught me is that if I'm going to play more WW, I need to get a notebook and dedicate it for that purpose to consolidate everything in one spot.

 

[The_Breadmann]

One thing this last week has taught me is that if I'm going to play more WW, I need to get a notebook and dedicate it for that purpose to consolidate everything in one spot.

Don't forget a couple excel sheets too

 

[supershorty]

Don't forget a couple excel sheets too

Oooh yes I LOVE excel sheets too. Might use those to make logic matrices, but this game seems difficult to do with that because roles keep popping up throughout the game.

 

[TelemarketingEnigma]

I really want to see one of the excel sheets the mods apparently use, there's gotta be a lot going on there

 

[supershorty]

I really want to see one of the excel sheets the mods apparently use, there's gotta be a lot going on there

I hope it's color coded. Color coding is the best.

 

[Aprilthearab]

Another thought - I was talking with my manator about the crazy amount of role reveals happening. I said something along the lines of how everyone is admitting to everything yet we still can't tell up from down. They said yeah, that's why you can't rely on mechanics or roles or abilities. Only content and vote history is truly reliable.

Anvils? Well, I can sure take an educated guess at who's responsible, but again, I don't know anything you guys don't know.

If Random is telling the truth, then all of their abilities are only one-use and thus can't be anvils that have happened every night.
Tele - your killing ability seems hefty enough as is, and I don't think the mods would give you another hefty power. Oh, how wrong I could be.
Hallows - Currently capable of accusing someone in the writeup. It seems like a power that would need to have a second ability to give you reason to call someone out. Could very well be Hallows.
Bread - you have one ability to move people to a different room. It would seem kind of fitting for you to also have a power to keep people where they are.
Vetschool - Batman seems very unrelated to anvils and she already has a pretty heavy ability, so I don't think it's them.
Shorty - Redirection power seems kind of unrelated to the anvils in any way.
Mammal - orchid placing weakens wolves, correct? Would seem fitting to have another ability that also might tell you who is responsible for something after blocking them.

Tinfoil hat on that people probably aren't going to like. Does anyone know for sure that the anvils are a player ability? They're literally falling from the goddang sky for all we know. What if the mods RNG who's going to be put in anvils every night for flare? It shouldn't be the basis for someone to be yeeted without stronger evidence that it's actually a character moving hundreds of anvils to a different location each night.

 

[Trilt]

Many old games have their mod spreadsheets posted at the end of the game. If you go hunting, you can easily find them!

(Mine are definitely colour coded. 😉)

 

[PippyPony]

I really want to see one of the excel sheets the mods apparently use, there's gotta be a lot going on there

I can post a couple in the sign ups thread once I get home, and I bet some other manators who mod* would be willing to do the same

Edit: ninja'd, and I straight up stole most of my formatting from Trilt, so I color code much the same




*sounds like ladies who lunch lol

 

[The_Breadmann]

Mwuahaha, it's my turn for role reveal:

My character is awesome. I have multiple abilities that I can use, however I can only use each one once, and only once per day. That's why I am no longer able to use my blocking ability when lumya stole it; she must have 'used it up', and because my abilities are one-time-use, I was unable to use it after that. I used my other superpowers to find out who certain people; I'm the one who told samac that Hallowmann is 3p, and Alleycat is villager (I won't say what abilities they are, but you can assume).

So last night, I was SO sure mammalade was a wolf, so I used my redirect ability (yes, I do have one as well, but with mine I can choose who to redirect to, which is why I was so suspicious of Shorty for not being able to do the same) from mammalade to alleycat. When I asked the mods about my redirect ability, they told me it depends per game how exactly a redirect ability works and whether it can redirect kills or not. I hopefully assumed that my ability could redirect kills, and if mammalade tried to kill someone (anyone) or even anvil a player, it would be redirected to alleycat, then alleycat's reflect would either kill the wolf (I was actually really looking forward to this) or reflect the ability.

Now, when alleycat DIED you can imagine my horror; I was SO sure that I had successfully redirected mammalade from killing someone (idk who) to killing alleycat (which I felt incredibly bad about), so this morning I was so ready to yeet out mammalade. This was also why I was so sure this morning that we had 2 wolves still remaining; one (mammalade) to kill, and the other to use their anvil ability (which I did not redirect). But I wanted to hear his story first before telling my story, and especially everyone else's too because I wanted to figure out what happened during the night. I'm confused about mammal's story about what happened last night, because I would assume either if mammal had visited before alleycat then he would have recieved his own orchid instead, or if he visited alleycat after she died, she would have received the orchid on her dead body since she can no longer reflect (since she's dead). Idk what happened there, and I'm hoping mammal can clear things up soon.

Mammalade's story technically checks out. I can detect no lies or suspiciousness in his story. Plus, I trust that white orchid are a good sign. Bread's story also checks out (I think, if I didn’t miss anything), and I am certain Hallowmann is 3p (unless he has a disguising skill as well to hide his identity from me, which is certainly possible). Therefore, I am following logic that we are missing the owner of the anvil ability, which I'm sure belongs to April now. From the beginning, I have assumed that anvil=wolf (if you need reasoning, you can look back at my posts or I can say it again no problem). If I am wrong, I cry. But for now:

yeet April

TLDR: I am a powerful being with many skills but suck at reasoning so idk if I'm right but I double checked my notes so here ya go.

If Mammal's ability is orchids, how did you redirect anvils towards Vetschool?

 

[The_Breadmann]

###unyeet april### for now

 

[TelemarketingEnigma]

If Mammal's ability is orchids, how did you redirect anvils towards Vetschool?

what? did i miss something?

 

[supershorty]

If Mammal's ability is orchids, how did you redirect anvils towards Vetschool?

I don't think Random did redirect anvils - I think she was saying that IF mammal had the anvils ability, it would have redirected to alleycat b/c her redirect is targetable and that's who she chose since alleycat could reflect it.

(@Randomizereh correct me if wrong interpretation)

 

[Randomizereh]

I don't know that there is hard evidence, but the fact that no villager is owning up to it makes it really suspicious to me. Anvils were used on wolves twice (supposedly april and mayo) but there's a chance they used that as cover in case this exact discussion came up. It does seem like it may have been used to block vetsplz from scanning anyone last night. If it were used as a protective measure, seems like something someone would own up to it and say that's what their goal was

Personally, I believe anvils seem wolfy because when someone died (I forget who but I can check write-ups), they heard the clacking of gears and metal turning before they died. No other wolf character has a blacksmith theme (I think), so that is my reasoning, though I could definitely be wrong. It just seems wolfy.

 

[Trilt]

I can post a couple in the sign ups thread once I get home, and I bet some other manators who mod* would be willing to do the same

Edit: ninja'd, and I straight up stole most of my formatting from Trilt, so I color code much the same




*sounds like ladies who lunch lol

I stole your idea and posted a couple, though definitely good to get other examples when you get home. It's hard for me to find ones that aren't mine because I don't have them saved.

 

[Randomizereh]

I don't think Random did redirect anvils - I think she was saying that IF mammal had the anvils ability, it would have redirected to alleycat b/c her redirect is targetable and that's who she chose since alleycat could reflect it.

(@Randomizereh correct me if wrong interpretation)

If Mammal's ability is orchids, how did you redirect anvils towards Vetschool?

Yeap yeap, Shorty is right. I was thinking Mammalade would be the last wolf (and therefore have the anvil ability), and therefore redirect the anvils onto herself instead.

 

[supershorty]

I am the least threat to anyone. No one has ties to me because I don't have anything (abilities, wolf friends) to be tied to. Everyone is having a hard time tracking my history in the writeups because I have no role in the writeups. Wolves haven't killed me off because I am completely useless except for keeping village numbers up. Villagers haven't killed me off because 1) I'm one of them and 2) I again don't have any suspicious ties to any kind of ability or killing.

I don't totally follow this logic. The bolded makes it sound like you would be a very easy wolf kill and would be one of the earliest ones picked off... if there's no potential consequences for a wolf, and their goal is to bring the village numbers down, I would think the vanillas would be the first ones to go.

 

[Aprilthearab]

I don't totally follow this logic. The bolded makes it sound like you would be a very easy wolf kill and would be one of the earliest ones picked off... if there's no potential consequences for a wolf, and their goal is to bring the village numbers down, I would think the vanillas would be the first ones to go.

It makes more sense for wolves to target villagers with abilities because those abilities could be used to hinder the wolves down the line.

 

[Randomizereh]

Another thought - I was talking with my manator about the crazy amount of role reveals happening. I said something along the lines of how everyone is admitting to everything yet we still can't tell up from down. They said yeah, that's why you can't rely on mechanics or roles or abilities. Only content and vote history is truly reliable.

Anvils? Well, I can sure take an educated guess at who's responsible, but again, I don't know anything you guys don't know.

If Random is telling the truth, then all of their abilities are only one-use and thus can't be anvils that have happened every night.
Tele - your killing ability seems hefty enough as is, and I don't think the mods would give you another hefty power. Oh, how wrong I could be.
Hallows - Currently capable of accusing someone in the writeup. It seems like a power that would need to have a second ability to give you reason to call someone out. Could very well be Hallows.
Bread - you have one ability to move people to a different room. It would seem kind of fitting for you to also have a power to keep people where they are.
Vetschool - Batman seems very unrelated to anvils and she already has a pretty heavy ability, so I don't think it's them.
Shorty - Redirection power seems kind of unrelated to the anvils in any way.
Mammal - orchid placing weakens wolves, correct? Would seem fitting to have another ability that also might tell you who is responsible for something after blocking them.

Tinfoil hat on that people probably aren't going to like. Does anyone know for sure that the anvils are a player ability? They're literally falling from the goddang sky for all we know. What if the mods RNG who's going to be put in anvils every night for flare? It shouldn't be the basis for someone to be yeeted without stronger evidence that it's actually a character moving hundreds of anvils to a different location each night.

On your list, the ones who I would think would most likely have the anvil ability is Hallows and Mammal. I'm a bit unsure about @hallowmann's ability and I'm hoping he can clarify some points on his ability (ex: if you can only frame during the odd nights, why were there several framings on even nights as well, on N4 and N8?), and the fact that the orchid somehow didn't go anywhere last night is making me v confused (though confusing for Mammal as well, I completely understand).

I would think the anvils are a player ability, based on the fact that I was targeted twice. The first time I can understand that it was random, but the second time was after a big reveal on my part on hard-defending Enigma. I really think there is a player behind the anvils just don't know who at this point.

 

[supershorty]

It makes more sense for wolves to target villagers with abilities because those abilities could be used to hinder the wolves down the line.

Right, but early in the game, would they know who those were?

@Randomizereh I have to admit I'm laughing imagining mammal waking up in the morning wandering around the hallway with a flower going "why tf do I still have this, what did I do the whole night?" Reminds me of college

 

[Randomizereh]

I am the least threat to anyone. No one has ties to me because I don't have anything (abilities, wolf friends) to be tied to. Everyone is having a hard time tracking my history in the writeups because I have no role in the writeups. Wolves haven't killed me off because I am completely useless except for keeping village numbers up. Villagers haven't killed me off because 1) I'm one of them and 2) I again don't have any suspicious ties to any kind of ability or killing.

I don't totally follow this logic. The bolded makes it sound like you would be a very easy wolf kill and would be one of the earliest ones picked off... if there's no potential consequences for a wolf, and their goal is to bring the village numbers down, I would think the vanillas would be the first ones to go.

I can understand April's logic here. Theoretically, if I were a wolf it would be in my best interest to kill off the valuable players (like vetschoolz) and leave the least dangerous (aka no powers) for last to fight to the death.

 

[Randomizereh]

Right, but early in the game, would they know who those were?

@Randomizereh I have to admit I'm laughing imagining mammal waking up in the morning wandering around the hallway with a flower going "why tf do I still have this, what did I do the whole night?" Reminds me of college

LOL don't remind me..... I've definitely done that back in my oh-so-joyful-youth

 

[supershorty]

Because the anvils and flower happened on the same night to the same person once, I'm inclined to think there are 2 people behind those actions.

 

[Randomizereh]

Because the anvils and flower happened on the same night to the same person once, I'm inclined to think there are 2 people behind those actions.

right?? That was my thinking. Even with my multiple abilities, I can still only use one per night

 

[TelemarketingEnigma]

On your list, the ones who I would think would most likely have the anvil ability is Hallows and Mammal. I'm a bit unsure about @hallowmann's ability and I'm hoping he can clarify some points on his ability (ex: if you can only frame during the odd nights, why were there several framings on even nights as well, on N4 and N8?), and the fact that the orchid somehow didn't go anywhere last night is making me v confused (though confusing for Mammal as well, I completely understand).

I would think the anvils are a player ability, based on the fact that I was targeted twice. The first time I can understand that it was random, but the second time was after a big reveal on my part on hard-defending Enigma. I really think there is a player behind the anvils just don't know who at this point.

this also makes sense with known abilities. Like, it would be way overpowered for me, random, or bread to have a second nightly action given our existing ones. Shorty is maybe a possibility since she's only been known to use her power a couple times, but if she can in fact use it every night then it's pretty powerful and seems like it wouldn't mesh with a second action. Vetschools' is powerful and i trust them anyway. Hallows and Mammal's are the only ones that seem maybe weak enough to pair with a second action, but even then that's a fair bit of power when there are vanilla villagers in play.

and the point about things being used in the same night is a good one.

 

[Aprilthearab]

Right, but early in the game, would they know who those were?

@Randomizereh I have to admit I'm laughing imagining mammal waking up in the morning wandering around the hallway with a flower going "why tf do I still have this, what did I do the whole night?" Reminds me of college

No, they wouldn't know, but I assume I wasn't a perceived threat as the game progressed.

 

[supershorty]

this also makes sense with known abilities. Like, it would be way overpowered for me, random, or bread to have a second nightly action given our existing ones. Shorty is maybe a possibility since she's only been known to use her power a couple times, but if she can in fact use it every night then it's pretty powerful and seems like it wouldn't mesh with a second action. Vetschools' is powerful and i trust them anyway. Hallows and Mammal's are the only ones that seem maybe weak enough to pair with a second action, but even then that's a fair bit of power when there are vanilla villagers in play.

and the point about things being used in the same night is a good one.

I can use mine every night (I don't THINK I could use it on the same person 2 nights in a row but I'd have to check with my manator), but god only knows who would still be around if I had done that.

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

Still at work;
Has anyone admitted to being a character that has anything to do w anvils?
my own ability is directly correlated w my cartoon (Batman has a bat scanner)
I think our next line of investigation needs to involve who the heck you are
If you’re village , there’s nothing to hide

 

[Aprilthearab]

Still at work;
Has anyone admitted to being a character that has anything to do w anvils?
my own ability is directly correlated w my cartoon (Batman has a bat scanner)
I think our next line of investigation needs to involve who the heck you are
If you’re village , there’s nothing to hide

I'm CatDog, you're Batman, has anyone else said exactly what character they are?

 

[hallowmann]

Also

On your list, the ones who I would think would most likely have the anvil ability is Hallows and Mammal. I'm a bit unsure about @hallowmann's ability and I'm hoping he can clarify some points on his ability (ex: if you can only frame during the odd nights, why were there several framings on even nights as well, on N4 and N8?), and the fact that the orchid somehow didn't go anywhere last night is making me v confused (though confusing for Mammal as well, I completely understand).

I would think the anvils are a player ability, based on the fact that I was targeted twice. The first time I can understand that it was random, but the second time was after a big reveal on my part on hard-defending Enigma. I really think there is a player behind the anvils just don't know who at this point.

Whoops, complete typo guys, should have been "on nights". Not just odd. I framed myself and then also Bread, because I don't think Bread is a wolf. I unfortunately don't have another ability. I thought it was cool at first, then all you guys had crazy other abilities. I can only frame people. Like I said, for me it was mammal, shorty, TME, and April that I suspected the most had wolves in them, but I really don't have any other info.

Also, to be clear, I am not technically bugs. I assume bugs is a tool of the mods. I am Gogo the Dodo

 

[Randomizereh]

Still at work;
Has anyone admitted to being a character that has anything to do w anvils?
my own ability is directly correlated w my cartoon (Batman has a bat scanner)
I think our next line of investigation needs to involve who the heck you are
If you’re village , there’s nothing to hide

no one has admitted having an anvil theory.
Two options: either April is lying about not having this ability, or there is a character who has another ability to use anvils that they are not admitting to

 

[kaydubs]

Day 9: Even the Wisest Can Make an Error Yeet Tally

Aprilthearab (5) - Randomizereh, supershorty, TelemarketingEnigma, hallowmann, mammalade

5/8

Leading: @Aprilthearab

Missing: @The_Breadmann @Aprilthearab @vetschoolsletmeinplease

Yeet/Vote closes at 9pm Eastern (~50 minutes)

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

no one has admitted having an anvil theory.
Two options: either April is lying about not having this ability, or there is a character who has another ability to use anvils that they are not admitting to

No I know no one has claimed anvils
But now I think we should look at the actual cartoons

 

[The_Breadmann]

Still at work;
Has anyone admitted to being a character that has anything to do w anvils?
my own ability is directly correlated w my cartoon (Batman has a bat scanner)
I think our next line of investigation needs to involve who the heck you are
If you’re village , there’s nothing to hide

I am the green ranger, and i think shuffling people in the room is a safe way not to expose who i am in the night messages

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

No I know no one has claimed anvils
But now I think we should look at the actual cartoons

In my logic the only reason to hide what room you are is to hide that you have anvils or are a wolf

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

In my logic the only reason to hide what room you are is to hide that you have anvils or are a wolf

Toon not room