SHWWENANIGOATS: The Unauthorized GGOATS Sequel - GAME THREAD

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genny said:
why would you ask this of me?
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I thought you've played with Zenon before and would have comments on what Zenge is saying about her. Also looking for updated reads in general, if you have them.
 
Zenge142 said:
I’ve been busy! And ruminating on the concept genny presented as a whole.

But I think I’m going to move.

Unyeet Chilly B.

Yeet Zenon

I actually think Zenon is a much better player than we’re seeing here in terms of solving. There’s scum equity here if you look.
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I mean... yes. I'm a better player when I'm comfortable and have something to roll off of but I don't know any of you well except Clem and since my whole thing is finding town locking them into a core and working with that to solve the game I'm struggling here.

Clem was the person who gave me a life vest into the game and him dying N1 completely took that away so I'm drowning.
 
WildZoo said:
@☆ Zenon ☆ scum reads?
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I don't scum hunt. I can give you town reads

Shelter
You
Sporty
AM

Is like where I'm most comfortable right now but I'm not even sure I'm confident enough in any of these reads to do my normal thing.

Shelters vibes have just been pure as snow and I find them to be like just easy to read I generally find there's a certain level of pure vibes that wolfs just can't replicate. Shelters emotional reactions to people getting upset with them is on that level for me.

Your emotions have been super clear and towny to me you're frustration was the towny kind of I'm being pushed for **** reasons frustration

Sportys treatment of me while I absolutely do not like the way they went about it only comes from town. A wolf would not push me in a way they are unwilling to explain it makes them too pushable when I flip town that's the kind of read and push that only comes from town

AM was the one to get this thread out of meme stage and into dream stage they've been inquisitive and trying to pull people into the game and get them to explain themselves in a way that doesn't feel agendad but feels like they want to actually solve the game.

My play is usually too form a mason bloc with people I town core and just blindly trust that read because my emotional snap reads have an 80% accuracy and I trust them. I just don't have that kind of rapport with anyone here to be like yes let's live mason in thread and work together and defend each other so I'm kinda off on an island doing my own thing.
 
Zenge142 said:
I’ve played with Zenon. Zenon is a good player with well thought out posts and thoughts and actual solving capabilities.

Her posts here are like saying present. She’s floaty. She’s not really contributing to solving.

That’s not village Zenon.
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I don't think this is a fair assessment of how I town. I'm fluffy and playful and memey and throw out thoughts I don't expand on as town

But when I'm comfortable I can solve a little yeah. I'm just super uncomfortable.
 
Zenge142 said:
Who has Zenon really pushed this game? I mean REALLY pushed? Zenon is flighty AF. It’s Wolfy. This isn’t a town Zenon.
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I don't push people like this is 1000% not a fair assessment of how I play and if you blindly trust this go read the town games I linked. That ain't it.
 
sheltermed said:
still based on tone or anything else now?
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Honestly, it’s mostly gut still because my memory of his distinct meta is hazy at this point. But I do have a good track record of shooting him correctly.

I think it’s weird how he turned his reads around in the last day, as already stated

But giving that the benefit of the doubt even, I don’t love how he’s been…. Around? But not contributing as actively as he does as village.
 
SportPonies said:
Honestly, it’s mostly gut still because my memory of his distinct meta is hazy at this point. But I do have a good track record of shooting him correctly.

I think it’s weird how he turned his reads around in the last day, as already stated

But giving that the benefit of the doubt even, I don’t love how he’s been…. Around? But not contributing as actively as he does as village.
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Zenge suddenly turning his reads around isn't abnormal for him at all though? Like it's something he's known for. I don't think it's outside his wolf range to fake it necessarily, I'm sure he's capable of that, but it's not something I'd sus him for.
 
Animal Midwife said:
Multitabling isn't AI so that's not factoring into anything for me.

Three is pretty good for an 11 person game on D2. However, sans a POE, things are a little more ambiguous.

I think the tell is officially dumped and isn't being used for any arguments against her at this point.
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So here's an insight into my brain

11 person is

I originally thought 3 wolfs but that seems unlikely the more I thought about it so more likely it's like 11 player Mountainous which makes it 9 v 2

That gives us 3 exes to exelo

You add that to the number of wolfs to get 5 that's your PoE size. Note what I like to do is include myself in my PoE that gives me 4 mistakes. That means I need to find 6 town. If I find 6 town I win the game

So far that list is

Clem - correct
Shelter
WildZoo
AM
Sporty

Okay so that means I need to find 1 more town to win.

Now my style is not too scum hunt or push scum reads what I will do is hard defend my town reads and try to keep them off the block if they are in danger of going over I will hard defend them.

I have 80% accuracy when I confidently town core players. I'm usually wrong on no more than exactly one player so it's unlikely that there's more than one wolf in shelter Wild Zoo AM Sporty. So I will blindly town core then until exelo.
 
I present to you all, my reads. There is a 99% chance in retrospect at the end of the game this will look foolish, but sometimes you've gotta get dirty to make sausage, or something like that :thinking:


Village
Chillbo
genny
WZ
Zenge

???
Sporty
Zenon
AM

Wolves
sheltermed
 
WildZoo said:
Zenge suddenly turning his reads around isn't abnormal for him at all though? Like it's something he's known for. I don't think it's outside his wolf range to fake it necessarily, I'm sure he's capable of that, but it's not something I'd sus him for.
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I already gave a “that aside” on that point.
 
Chillbo Baggins said:
I present to you all, my reads. There is a 99% chance in retrospect at the end of the game this will look foolish, but sometimes you've gotta get dirty to make sausage, or something like that :thinking:


Village
Chillbo
genny
WZ
Zenge

???
Sporty
Zenon
AM

Wolves
sheltermed
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Could you explain the village reads outside of yourself? Also, can you move another person down to wolves? There's definitely not one wolf.
 
SportPonies said:
I think it’s just the way you talk lol
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It is. I am very very open about my emotions and feelings I don't like pretending they don't exist.

It's kinda the way I grew up I was taught that as a "man" I had to have no emotions and got in trouble when I cried and **** so I hid them until I came out as you know not a man lol anyways that led to me being very angry and bitter so I stopped doing that and that's led to me being very very honest about my emotions.

I do it as wolf and as town and people than tell me I'm lying about my feelings when I'm wolf but I'm not lol.

Anyways that doesn't matter but that's why. I just hate it because it happens every game when the truth is like I'm just being myself and I wear my heart on my sleeve.
 
sheltermed said:
I thought you've played with Zenon before and would have comments on what Zenge is saying about her. Also looking for updated reads in general, if you have them.
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yeah i haven't played with her much, and certainly haven't seen her wolfing, so i wouldn't feel confident in reading her at all. idk why zenge has more confidence
 
What is the VC? Anyone know I have to work a 16 in 2 hours and wanna nap I can't be here for EoD and would like to make a meaningful vote before I leave
 
SportPonies said:
Yeet zenge and then yeet me tomorrow if I’m wrong! :heckyeah:
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I hate these ultimatums 🙁

I am 90% confident you are town and I am completely unsure on Zenge cause while I think they are blatantly wrong on my meta i think their reasons for pushing me are not scum motivated
 
SportPonies said:
There was a reason but I don’t remember it.
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crowd bus GIF by South Park
 
vote: Chillbo

I think... this is where I'm most comfortable right now. I don't like that reads list it feels completely counter to how I'm reading this game and I don't like that they just dropped it without much thought or explanation and basically said "I'm probably wrong lol" which is just...a weird mindset to be in to me. I don't think I'll ever get there on them if they are town.
 
On information that has come across the co-mayor's desk, genny has acted in an entirely goaty way.

WZ ended up providing a very reasonable defense of myself regarding perceived mayoral abilities and the era I come from, when it would've been easy to keep that on the DL and let people continue to pile on me.

Zenge also came around on my villager-ness, and has had suspicions on shelter, and I didn't get the "wolf-on-wolf sus" vibe.
 
Chillbo Baggins said:
On information that has come across the co-mayor's desk, genny has acted in an entirely goaty way.

WZ ended up providing a very reasonable defense of myself regarding perceived mayoral abilities and the era I come from, when it would've been easy to keep that on the DL and let people continue to pile on me.

Zenge also came around on my villager-ness, and has had suspicions on shelter, and I didn't get the "wolf-on-wolf sus" vibe.
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Whatcha mean by goaty way?
 
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I believe in you all. Town we've got this I love you all. I trust you all to hold down this EoD and look for the best execution. I'm so sorry I can't be here this EoD time is not great for me but I have trust in y'all to go from here and find the best choice. Even if it's me but pls don't kill me I'm enjoying a mafia game for the first time in months <3

Glgl **** it we ball good night beautifuls
 
☆ Zenon ☆ said:
vote: Chillbo

I think... this is where I'm most comfortable right now. I don't like that reads list it feels completely counter to how I'm reading this game and I don't like that they just dropped it without much thought or explanation and basically said "I'm probably wrong lol" which is just...a weird mindset to be in to me. I don't think I'll ever get there on them if they are town.
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When you haven't played in 5 years, and have only played with like 1.5 of the players, you gotta wing it, ya know.
 
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