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Gonna be honest, kinda forgot this was happening after I posted yesterday. When is lynch close?
Alright. I have to go to bed and won't be up before lynch close. Yes I'm a wee bit more salty and annoyed when on nights so take that how you will. Personally I'd rather not get lynched, but people seem hung up on my DVMD statement and I think village is wasting time there. If you all insist on lynching me at least do it on a day when I can answer questions, etc. but that won't be until Sunday becasue work- IRL excuses-so meh. My thoughts currently before I get up for work in less than 8 hours.

Paws was a fun vote, but apparrently I'm not allowed to have any fun according to PBC since she was not a fan of my joking with AM. Cray was quick to jump to DVMD's defense-this concerns me most because we always tell players not to defend for other players and she did exactly that. However, it seems acceptable because she is using "meta." Not an excuse. I'm calling B.S. on it, maybe I'm wrong, but DVMD is an experienced player and doesn't need others comming to her rescue. DVMD's response seemed fine to me so currently neutral there. PBC also jumped my case over a small note using Cray's lead-I don't like it. I could see them being wolves to gain credit for defending DVMD if/when she goes down. Therefore, PBC is also leaning wolfy to me currently, as in addition to the above, it's an easy call out to say " too many fluffy posts!" when I made one "strategy" post if you will.
For today and it's not gonna change before lynch close.
Unlynch Paws
Lynch Crayons


If you all have any more indepth questions I pmed with my partners so do what you want.
Is mix in the lead when this happened? This is kinda screaming overly defensive to me.
GAME ON Day 1 Lynch Tally:
RL-KB (2) - DVMD, Moose
bryndy (1) - SAR
Coops (1) - AM
genny (1) - BBC/Ferny
BBC (1) - Pippy
Paws (1) - MA
Elfabeth (1) - Coops
SAR (1) - Cray
MA (1) - PBC

Deadline in 13 hours (at 10pm Eastern/9pm Central)
Nope guess not, huh that's weird.
Thoughts so far:

Two sentences is totes village. But four? Four is suspicious. Noted for future.

Peebs calling out fluff on D1? A D1 that started late at night? Really?

It seems AM came prepared with extra doses of question marks.

I feel some energy crackalackin in here and I like it. My vote should surprise no one.

Lynch cheezit

:laugh: I'm tempted to join you just for the shiggles.

I see I am throughly ninja'd by just about everybody le sigh west coast time. I also thought mixy at first but seeing the bandwagon... makes me hesitate. I've definitely done the D1 slip up before and it kinda feels that way to me. Little freaked out by Cray calling me essentially normal, I think the only she does that is when she's a wolf :laugh: but I'm probably just paranoid.

F it Unlynch whichever noob lynch mixy
 
I see I am throughly ninja'd by just about everybody le sigh west coast time. I also thought mixy at first but seeing the bandwagon... makes me hesitate. I've definitely done the D1 slip up before and it kinda feels that way to me. Little freaked out by Cray calling me essentially normal, I think the only she does that is when she's a wolf :laugh: but I'm probably just paranoid.

F it Unlynch whichever noob lynch mixy

The bandwagon makes you hesitant to vote for her?
 
The bandwagon makes you hesitant to vote for her?
Yes, bandwagons forming over a small thing usually results in a mislynch IMO but if it's a valid info/observation to go off of it's still a good lynch. Hence hesitation. Boy I missed playing with you 😍 (not sarcasm at all, I like your questions)
 
Yes, bandwagons forming over a small thing usually results in a mislynch IMO but if it's a valid info/observation to go off of it's still a good lynch. Hence hesitation. Boy I missed playing with you 😍 (not sarcasm at all, I like your questions)

I missed playing with you too Coop.

What information will you gain from a Mixy lynch?
 
My bad-thought lynch close was 5pm cst. Apparently thats night close. Love that jboo is riding the easy train yet again...seems like her classic wolf imo. Cray voting me after me voting her typical. Glad glam and am have some reservations. Come on WZ and coop let's not go down this road.

Regardless I really am going to work soon so I don't have time to convince you all it was innocent and I'm village. I already revealed to my pm partners earlier because I figured you all would freak out. I'm olimar. I'm a self jailer. Assuming order of operations and normal wolf mechanics lynch is the only way I can die. Let me live through tonight and prove it to someone. Or don't.

Some don't see cray which is fine I have a very wifom idea that if * my memory serves me correctly when she's wolf she calls me one on D1 like 90% of the time. I haven't had time to verify my memory though so whatever.

BTW I'm in the camp of at least letting the noobs live to play a day imo.

For anyone questioning my pissy defensive play I'm pretty sure I was also on nights in whisk so do what you want.

Peace guys. Good playing AM and Glam!
 
Any thoughts on the thread Allie?
I was hoping to catch up after work but I've had a crazy day with no end in sight soo looks like I may not get a chance. Based on what I had read earlier on my lunch break I guess I want to know why @RedLauren singled out Miranda for being quiet and not any of the several other people that were also quiet (myself included). Idk, it just struck me as odd.
 
My bad-thought lynch close was 5pm cst. Apparently thats night close. Love that jboo is riding the easy train yet again...seems like her classic wolf imo. Cray voting me after me voting her typical. Glad glam and am have some reservations. Come on WZ and coop let's not go down this road.

Regardless I really am going to work soon so I don't have time to convince you all it was innocent and I'm village. I already revealed to my pm partners earlier because I figured you all would freak out. I'm olimar. I'm a self jailer. Assuming order of operations and normal wolf mechanics lynch is the only way I can die. Let me live through tonight and prove it to someone. Or don't.

Some don't see cray which is fine I have a very wifom idea that if * my memory serves me correctly when she's wolf she calls me one on D1 like 90% of the time. I haven't had time to verify my memory though so whatever.

BTW I'm in the camp of at least letting the noobs live to play a day imo.

For anyone questioning my pissy defensive play I'm pretty sure I was also on nights in whisk so do what you want.

Peace guys. Good playing AM and Glam!

Can you explain how self-jailer works?
 
Oh okay, it was just the way it was phrased I guess especially the bolded part that made it sound like you were defending yourself or something. I dont know :ninja: maybe now I'm going too deep into things
Haha I guess I can see how
I was hoping to catch up after work but I've had a crazy day with no end in sight soo looks like I may not get a chance. Based on what I had read earlier on my lunch break I guess I want to know why @RedLauren singled out Miranda for being quiet and not any of the several other people that were also quiet (myself included). Idk, it just struck me as odd.
The voice in my head mentioned it. I think she thought it was odd she lynched me but didn’t elaborate to give much of an explanation why.

Editing to add voice in my heads initial thoughts before moose unlynched me: “She dropped a joke vote for us and hasn't been back from what I can see. Is she going to sit on us all day or is she going to come back why a serious vote or real reason to vote us?”
 
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I already revealed to my pm partners earlier because I figured you all would freak out. I'm olimar. I'm a self jailer. Assuming order of operations and normal wolf mechanics lynch is the only way I can die. Let me live through tonight and prove it to someone. Or don't.

This seems odd. When did you reveal this to your PM partners?
 
Unlynch BBC
Lynch Mixalot


Usually I don't lynch based off of ability claim but I've used that particular bull**** enough times that it makes me squiggly to see someone asking us to let them prove it.

Because wolves would deeeefinitely comply with that request. Yeah right.

Also possibly allows wolves a night where someone else gets targeted by village actions. Good diversion if you can work it.
 
Can I ask how you plan to prove this?
Well hoping someone, multiple people try to do something tonight or wolves try to nk me. Basically on a hope and a prayer. Who knows what their message might be. Could be something like this person couldn't be reached. Also with PMing it can somewhat help protect those that did night action to me while getting out on thread that I'm a villager.
 
Can you explain what lead up to that? Seems a little preemptive to me.
she was going to bed and didn't think she'd be up before lynch close. She said she was going to be sleeping most of the day. She decided she didn't have anything else to lose and to lean on her pm partners
 
Well hoping someone, multiple people try to do something tonight or wolves try to nk me. Basically on a hope and a prayer. Who knows what their message might be. Could be something like this person couldn't be reached. Also with PMing it can somewhat help protect those that did night action to me while getting out on thread that I'm a villager.

What do you think of the current people on your lynch?
 
Well hoping someone, multiple people try to do something tonight or wolves try to nk me. Basically on a hope and a prayer. Who knows what their message might be. Could be something like this person couldn't be reached. Also with PMing it can somewhat help protect those that did night action to me while getting out on thread that I'm a villager.
Yeah ok so the plan is to get wolves to cooperate with proving you're village? Lol good luck to you, friend
 
This seems odd. When did you reveal this to your PM partners?
After I got off work this am and was home right before I went to bed. But I'm out for the rest of lynch. I'm clocking in to work in 3 min. Chose to because I know how you all can be about stuff and saw it heading to S*** land so figured try to be a little proactive weather it helped or not eh. Well good luck village. I'm out.
 
Is self-jailer a common role? Idk that I've ever heard of it.
It sounds like it's a Commuter role. "Leave" at night, no one can touch you.

It's not super common but also not unusual. Is typically village, for obvious reasons.

Also makes it a decent ability claim for a wolf because:
- Unlikely to be another one to counter claim, but not a super weird mechanic
- Better utility as a village role makes it inherently lean village
- Easy to "prove" by just saying you weren't targeted, or having wolves "attack" you and hold their kill for the night
 
I'm willing to back off based on the reveal for now. Would be pretty OP to have a wolf that no night actions could be used on. Someone will probably verify it eventually (probably better not to have everybody redirect their actions to mixy tonight, eh? 😉 ).

Unlynch mixy
 
I'm willing to back off based on the reveal for now. Would be pretty OP to have a wolf that no night actions could be used on. Someone will probably verify it eventually (probably better not to have everybody redirect their actions to mixy tonight, eh? 😉 ).

Unlynch mixy
Yes, that would be OP.

Unless it is an unseerable wolf who decides not to go anywhere or do anything for a couple nights
 
Okay, somewhat catching up. To address concerns I saw about me in no particular order:

I said I might not be back before lynch close so early because I was at a pig barn all day. Shower in, shower out means you don't get contact with the outside world. Doesn't matter, but it is a legit reason.

Re: my posting sounding wolfy. That's apparently my normal as others have pointed out. I was amazed last game when everyone pegged me as strong village because that is so not normal. As to posting style, I have fun in ww. I don't crazy analyze. I don't make spreadsheets. I go off my gut and try to have fun while doing it. Yes, this means I **** post often when I see the opportunity.

Nothing has been crazy pinging my radar yet today as most arguing feels very village on village to me. Idk yet what to make of Mixy's role reveal. I hate that it came out on D1 so early but meh. Choices.

I found it interesting my "noob" vote (which wasn't aimed at a noob because otherwise redlauren would be included. It was aimed purely at usernames I don't recognize so I have not interacted with them before or read threads with them before, ww or not) was called out and Coops initial declared noob vote wasn't. May not be any wolfiness on that, but just a note that stood out to me.
 
Unofficial GAME ON Day 1 Lynch Tally:
RL-KB (1) - DVMD
SAR (1) - RL/KB
MA (5) - PBC, jboo, Cray, Coop, Pippy
bryndy (1) - SAR
Coops () -
genny (1) - BBC/Ferny
BBC () -
Paws (1) - Skimble
Elfabeth () -
Cray (1) - MA
Mel () -
Coffee (1) - Stagg
PBC () -
allieh (1) - Coffee
MJ (1) - kc
MOOSE (2) - AM, Paws

16/27
Deadline in ~2 hours (at 10pm Eastern/9pm Central)
 
Yes, that would be OP.

Unless it is an unseerable wolf who decides not to go anywhere or do anything for a couple nights

I would assume that an unseerable wolf would still return other investigative results.
 
Yes, that would be OP.

Unless it is an unseerable wolf who decides not to go anywhere or do anything for a couple nights
Idk, from her description it sounds like it should be verifiable. Like, if all night actions fail against her (village and wolf) then I would assume the results would be more akin to "you dun failed" rather than "she did nothing". But I guess that would be up to the mods.
 
I would assume that an unseerable wolf would still return other investigative results.
If they don't do any actions, and they aren't lying about things like role name? Not a lot of other options for investigation there. I mean, maybe I could think of one, but that starts to feel like an ability fish to ask them to do that.
 
Idk, from her description it sounds like it should be verifiable. Like, if all night actions fail against her (village and wolf) then I would assume the results would be more akin to "you dun failed" rather than "she did nothing". But I guess that would be up to the mods.
Liked for the last sentence. Regardless, it's just not a great guarantee because of the number of variables, and it risks drawing the reverse eye(s) of sauron elsewhere lol
 
If they don't do any actions, and they aren't lying about things like role name? Not a lot of other options for investigation there. I mean, maybe I could think of one, but that starts to feel like an ability fish to ask them to do that.

If it they are actually an unseerable wolf, and there's no STL bastard rules, it should return "they are village/were unable to be seered/did nothing last night" not "no results returned/you were unable to use your action".
 
If it they are actually an unseerable wolf, and there's no STL bastard rules, it should return "they are village/were unable to be seered/did nothing last night" not "no results returned/you were unable to use your action".
Mods, these people all trust you so much!

😍
 
But I'm curious about the jbooze now.

I thought it was jboobs? :naughty:
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