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WASN'T ME!
This looks like your handwriting:

An explosion was heard across the stage. The crowd gasped.
Dr. Mario had been minding his own business, doling out medication to everyone else last anyone checked. Next thing they knew, he was flying through the air. No one had the chance to even raise a finger in an attempt to save him, it happened that quickly.
 
It's day 6, AM: kind of maybe official tally but I'm not good at counting, so who knows.

DVMD (6) - AM, SAR, dvmd, WZ, LOtF, cray
cray (1) - Mel
dolph () -
stagg (2) - pippy, bryndi
bryndi (4)- Paws, dolphin, genny, mixy

13/18

Lynch close 2 hrs
 
Last unofficial count my vote got lost...
###lynch Bryn##
Incase people are lazy today
It's day 6, AM: kind of maybe official tally but I'm not good at counting, so who knows.

DVMD (6) - AM, SAR, dvmd, WZ, LOtF, cray
cray (1) - Mel
dolph () -
stagg (2) - pippy, bryndi
bryndi (3)- Paws, dolphin, genny

12/18

Lynch close 2 hrs
Psst
 
It's day 6, AM: kind of maybe official tally but I'm not good at counting, so who knows.

DVMD (6) - AM, SAR, dvmd, WZ, LOtF, cray
cray (1) - Mel
dolph () -
stagg (2) - pippy, bryndi
bryndi (4)- Paws, dolphin, genny, mixy

13/18

Lynch close 2 hrs
Still not good at counting
ETA oooo Ninja!
 
Contingency Lynch Crayola

Haven't read most of anything since my last post, I see DVMD votes piling up, but I have a weird feeling her win condition might involve having people unanimously vote for her, so I'm gonna vote elsewhere just to avoid that situation.

Will read tomorrow.

I understand your read on the DVMD situation, but I wonder why I'm then your top choice. Also seems like convert hunting at this point. Are we ready for that? If so, OK I get it, I'm worth thinking about. Otherwise if this is just based on easy target and convert hunting thinking, when if it's a bit early for convert hunting, I'm going to suggest we look beyond me and elsewhere.
 
I stated on thread the other day I had capsule and was opening it. Sporty told me she would RNG it when she got home. I got food. It did nothing. She said it's been feeding a lot of people in this game

Ah, interesting. So a little extra mod info on the side 😉

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🤣

WHO-WHO-WHO
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Oh my lord, thank you for this memory. I needed that laugh haha
 
So you are suspicious of skimble, and want us to know you were on the Lynch of bj when she flipped wolf? Are you not even reading the day/night write ups?
Skimble was lynched wolf yesterday
BJ flipped village. I've even tagged you in posts wondering why you stayed on that lynch after she vig killed PBC on thread(who wasn't lynched)

Don't really follow this, except to say that what happened with BJ/PBC was because I wasn't around to see that and do anything about it before lynch closed.

I am reading write ups, but I'm having a hard time keeping track of a lot of the deaths, rezzes, subs, etc, as I said.
 
Proof that Coop would throw shade at another wolf on D1:

She was not overly provoked to do this. So no, her making one harsh comment about Dolphin's vote does not particularly clear her in my mind. Although I get they were different circumstances

:eyebrow:I just saw this and in light of something in PM, it now makes me question another assumption a bit.


Oh they don't, huh? 😉

The rest of this post seemed kinda villagey though. And I agreed with the Glam comment and the DVMD comment (weirdly enough I also remembered her doing something similar, but I'm glad dubz put that out there and not me because I didn't have to take heat for not remembering specifics lol


You have had a LOT of cross-talk/overlap with SkimbleJil. A lot a lot. I think I'm going to need to start seeing some more original reads from you because you have jumped on a lot of other people's (light) reads and pushed them harder, and you've had a bunch of comments that boiled down to "yeah me too!"


Is it? Or is it that Coop bit the dust from an exploded turtle shell (which BBC mentioned in her post btw -- I think that was a spoiler cause I didn't see anyone else say specifically that) and so you pulled back a bus? Why'd we clear you again?

..and then did you actually convert Cheezit, because it looks like right here he made a post, realized he had been converted, and then decided to walk back a PBC vote in...not the smoothest fashion.

And then oh look, other people also thought that was weird af:


Although I want to know why AM is so convinced that Mel is (still) village, because I am not necessarily so convinced.

Also, I think he silenced me.

Also, his logic got a lot more dramatic after that in posts I didn't bother to quote. Also, he reversed his position on Dubz at some point recently and it caught my eye when it happened.

I also meant to post one of Glam's long catch up posts...I did see some weirdness there, and PM gave me no feels either way. I would be ok lynching GlamorousBryndi today, I think, but I am also toying with a Mel lynch.

This all contingent upon me reading the remaining 20ish pages of the thread, but my eyes are melting so I'm walking away for now.

Since I'm getting village Pippy vibes, and Mel has bugging me a bit (I know I said he seemed village normal, however, I also pointed out that I had some issues with his logic on me), between Pippy's case and that feeling, I'm feeling like a vote for Mel might not be retaliatory on my end, and has substance to it.

Someone said that at some point I should be a mid-game lynch on principle, I'm going to say that goes doubly so for Mel.

Also if he is convert or original, going for me is a great move for him. He sorta set that up that mislynch from early on, too. I've seen wolf Mel plant those seeds early and then hammer it home at the opportune time.

unlynch DVMD

lynch Mel

I also agree holding off on DVMD might be the wise thing, in case either theory is true: she's acting as a bizarre villager, or she's bizarre chaos with this as a win condition. Hopefully time will tell what to do to crack that egg.
 
Since I'm getting village Pippy vibes, and Mel has bugging me a bit (I know I said he seemed village normal, however, I also pointed out that I had some issues with his logic on me), between Pippy's case and that feeling, I'm feeling like a vote for Mel might not be retaliatory on my end, and has substance to it.

Someone said that at some point I should be a mid-game lynch on principle, I'm going to say that goes doubly so for Mel.

Also if he is convert or original, going for me is a great move for him. He sorta set that up that mislynch from early on, too. I've seen wolf Mel plant those seeds early and then hammer it home at the opportune time.

unlynch DVMD

lynch Mel

I also agree holding off on DVMD might be the wise thing, in case either theory is true: she's acting as a bizarre villager, or she's bizarre chaos with this as a win condition. Hopefully time will tell what to do to crack that egg.

I'm also getting scared of DVMD blowing up or something, but I think Mel's been fairly village actually.
 
I swear to god if AM opens hers and it blows her up too I'm going to be somewhere past mildly cheezed
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is for fire that burns down the whole town
U is for Uranium.....bomb.
N is for no surviiiiiiiivors!
Down here in the deep blue sea!

I understand your read on the DVMD situation, but I wonder why I'm then your top choice. Also seems like convert hunting at this point. Are we ready for that? If so, OK I get it, I'm worth thinking about. Otherwise if this is just based on easy target and convert hunting thinking, when if it's a bit early for convert hunting, I'm going to suggest we look beyond me and elsewhere.
Please read my posts. I've explained why I'm voting you at least twice now.
 
Proof that Coop would throw shade at another wolf on D1:

She was not overly provoked to do this. So no, her making one harsh comment about Dolphin's vote does not particularly clear her in my mind. Although I get they were different circumstances

:eyebrow:I just saw this and in light of something in PM, it now makes me question another assumption a bit.


Oh they don't, huh? 😉

The rest of this post seemed kinda villagey though. And I agreed with the Glam comment and the DVMD comment (weirdly enough I also remembered her doing something similar, but I'm glad dubz put that out there and not me because I didn't have to take heat for not remembering specifics lol


You have had a LOT of cross-talk/overlap with SkimbleJil. A lot a lot. I think I'm going to need to start seeing some more original reads from you because you have jumped on a lot of other people's (light) reads and pushed them harder, and you've had a bunch of comments that boiled down to "yeah me too!"


Is it? Or is it that Coop bit the dust from an exploded turtle shell (which BBC mentioned in her post btw -- I think that was a spoiler cause I didn't see anyone else say specifically that) and so you pulled back a bus? Why'd we clear you again?

..and then did you actually convert Cheezit, because it looks like right here he made a post, realized he had been converted, and then decided to walk back a PBC vote in...not the smoothest fashion.

And then oh look, other people also thought that was weird af:


Although I want to know why AM is so convinced that Mel is (still) village, because I am not necessarily so convinced.

Also, I think he silenced me.

Also, his logic got a lot more dramatic after that in posts I didn't bother to quote. Also, he reversed his position on Dubz at some point recently and it caught my eye when it happened.

I also meant to post one of Glam's long catch up posts...I did see some weirdness there, and PM gave me no feels either way. I would be ok lynching GlamorousBryndi today, I think, but I am also toying with a Mel lynch.

This all contingent upon me reading the remaining 20ish pages of the thread, but my eyes are melting so I'm walking away for now.

The points Pippy made about Dubz I thought were good. However, WZ is getting less village points from me than what Pippy said, because while WZ's points "make sense," they also could read as simply a laundry list of typically sketch players that have a history of being good mislynches for a wolf to push.

However, Pippy's post also gave me the exact same vibe.

This could be because I suspect everyone, so I'm bound to agree with most people's suspicions, and it isn't any indication of wolfiness on the part of the players putting it out there.

However, agreeing with someone's logic should NEVER clear someone too much. It's not hard for wolves to come off as the ones making the most sense in the village, obvs. They have the most real data, and besides gamesolving for PRs, 90% of their job is passing off manipulation as possible truth with the best logic they can lie about.
 
Wolf!Mel likes to pocket me. He hasn't even attempted to do that this game.

This seems very weak for putting Mel in the village category, he absolutely is a smart enough wolf to have been doing that on purpose, and not to do it this game.

Come to think of it, you absolutely are smart enough to know this. :thinking:
 
Haven't read anything since my last post. Full disclosure, I'm currently driving to my sister's and ETA isn't until after 11pm. Probably won't be catching up tonight.

Tomorrow the drive continues to northern Minnesota so expect spotty participation from me. Honestly I expected this game to be a bit further along at this point and me maybe dead.

Tl;Dr real world excuses
 
tl;Dr:
I'm not voting until I can get through more of the thread again, but from early read:

- Need more substance from KC instead of snark and voting theory commentary

- Cheezit got real weird mid-game and did a 180 a couple times in a row (a 720?) inexplicably

- Dubz would totes convert Cheese for lulz

- However, she had some good points that made me lean village, so I'm split on that read. One of the good points was calling out Glam for some of the same posts that bugged me a bit. Might do a GlammedOutBryndi info lynch.

Still don't want to do what DVMD says if she is actually non-village, and I'm not sure why other people are so eager to listen to her.

As per my point that wolves can make sense, regardless of Pippy's affiliation, these are all fair points to consider. They may be wrong if she's wolf, but giving it that grain of salt, I like these observations.

Namely, I agree need more substance from KC, Mel is weird and possibly danced around, WZ has given me vibes at this point, maybe more than she seems to have to Pip. Glam also seemed off.

I get this seems like piggybacking logic, and I think I have also given some of my own thoughts already, (I think, lol), but guess what, villagers often agree on what are true observations, as much as I've said that villagers can find themselves agreeing a lot with wolves.
 
Yeah, no kidding. Hence why I was not seeing at all where people were getting that she was wolfy. I still don't really get how she got caught honestly. And frankly, I haven't been as active because
1. I'm in a residency program and don't always have time to do more than try to keep up during the day (or a long catch up in the evenings), by which time a lot of the things I would have commented on have either already been commented on by someone else (Dubz mostly) or the topic has been resolved so it doesn't really matter anymore.
2. This thread is so freaking chatty and busy, I don't feel like adding to it by repeating thoughts made by others
3. There are so many people (still) that I keep misremembering who said/did what and it becomes too time intensive to go back and figure it out. Yes, lazy.


Where's my snark? And don't get me started on that second thing or I will lose it. See above for why low on substance.

I'm also at a weird point in the game where I'm definitely too focused on one player (COUGH AM COUGH) and can't see past my own blinders. I still don't see how people picked out Skilary as wolfy (as noted above), but admittedly when people side with me on things they tend to get village leans in my head so I'm apparently too manipulatable.

I'm pretty sure there are players left who I don't even realize are playing. I haven't even PMed anyone this game.

Decent defense in my eyes, although it does rely on some IRL excuses, which should always make one hesitate to put in village category.

Frankly, my thought on Jimble is that it was village luck. Or a bus? I dunno, I can't say I followed closely. Although I did say that I didn't like the buddy buddy of Jimble and genny, so I wouldn't be surprised if that was a factor in votes. Not trying to give wolves a defense for a vote by putting words in anyone's mouth, the fact here is that I'm giving my own read of that situation.
 
It's day 6, AM: kind of maybe official tally but I'm not good at counting, so who knows.

DVMD (5) - AM, SAR, dvmd, WZ, LOtF
cray (1) - Mel
dolph () -
stagg (3) - pippy, bryndi, ny
bryndi (4)- Paws, dolphin, genny, mixy
Mel (1) - Cray

14/18

Lynch close ~1 hr
 
There a reason why Stagg isn't getting wrist slapped for missing 2 lynch votes in a row?

So much WIFOM, because one could argue that if he was wolfpack, they would likely be the ones kicking his arse about that, so the fact he's doing that could read village, if we think a wolf wouldn't do that and draw attn for that. Unless that's why they're letting that go if he's a wolf.

@Stagg737 whether this is village or wolfy, this is why you need to vote regardless. It's good gameplay and it will get you lynched, which doesn't help no matter your affiliation.

I know it's hypocritical from me this game, still, there's the message that missing votes is muy mal. So are throwaway votes, but I digress.
 
Not warn she just wanted my thoughts but I didn’t have time to respond to Mixy and post in the thread. I guess in reality it didn’t matter bc you quoted me (whoops) but I get email notifications for messages so that’s why I got on the thread at the time.

I am confused. If Mixy is dead, she should not be contacting you about talking about the game under any circumstances until it is over.

If Mixy is not dead, she better have contacted you through PM if that was allowed.

So what happened?
 
Decent defense in my eyes, although it does rely on some IRL excuses, which should always make one hesitate to put in village category.

Frankly, my thought on Jimble is that it was village luck. Or a bus? I dunno, I can't say I followed closely. Although I did say that I didn't like the buddy buddy of Jimble and genny, so I wouldn't be surprised if that was a factor in votes. Not trying to give wolves a defense for a vote by putting words in anyone's mouth, the fact here is that I'm giving my own read of that situation.
You are just blatantly making **** up. Skimble (a wolf) implied she was going to get a vouch from me because she PMed me her role. You're going to believe what a wolf tells you? Stop playing so crappy. It makes me want to lynch you.
 
You are just blatantly making **** up. Skimble (a wolf) implied she was going to get a vouch from me because she PMed me her role. You're going to believe what a wolf tells you? Stop playing so crappy. It makes me want to lynch you.

OK don't like it, but I already mentioned it, and it's based on whatever back and forth you had on thread that sounded like a lot of vouching or referring to PMs. Maybe I misunderstood. However that observation is not the same thing as believing what a wolf says. I said I wouldn't be surprised is one of you was a wolf. Oh, and guess what?

Not sure why you're so defensive on my theory on how Skimble was caught, the fact that I said the interaction was w/w or w/v is hardly coming after you, and I disagree it was a crap call when it ended up being right that there was a wolf in there.

So you don't think she was trying to pocket you in PM? OK, fine, I wasn't there.

Just not sure why the vehemence here, unless it's an excuse to push a mislynch, because it hardly feels like a defense given it was hardly a softball I tossed you way. Especially given I have maintained I have you in the village camp overall this game.

In fact, this feels like v/v right now, but I think you need to calm down. Unless you're the convert or whatever.
 
I am confused. If Mixy is dead, she should not be contacting you about talking about the game under any circumstances until it is over.

If Mixy is not dead, she better have contacted you through PM if that was allowed.

So what happened?
Mixy was rezzed and is positioned next to Dolph. This all on the up and up as far as pm convos go. Why are you being weird? Are you chaos?
 
Stagg is likely not a good direction to go in either. I'd be interested in a glamm/bj lynch for an OG wolf, or cray for convert. But really don't see why people are afraid to lynch DVMD and see what happens. If she auto wins the game I doubt it would be an exclusive win (those haven't been a thing for chaos in a while). If she's a wolf then we need to know what happens if we lynch her. We're in a good spot to test it, rather do that now than later.

Edit: Plus you're all ruining the dream of a super early lynch close!

who was the other rez? are they still alive? why am I the only rez convert candidate? just curious

in a STL game DocE won by being lynched, because there was some sort of order that 3rd parties had to be lynched. I think you were there for that. So not sure why you maintain that we shouldn't hesitate in this case.
 
I'm not willing to vote for DVMD today. I had been reading her as village, and even though she has progressively gotten more goofy/fed up(?) a vote on her feels too easy because what wolf would bait everyone that way to get lynched? Then that would imply that she is third party, and one of her win conditions could be needing to go out with a landslide lynch. The last option I can see is she is actually village, and is over it and wants to die. These are the reasons why I am not going to vote for her today.

Just to add, I have seen a case where something "good" happens as an ability when a villager dies. Why hasn't she said so? To avoid being a wolf NK target? Well, why don't they kill her anyway, because non-wolves asking to die is no bueno for them too? Because they have higher priorities in the meantime, and she's good distraction? I know that has definitely happened when I've been in wolfpack.

Also iirc correctly I have seen wolves and chaos beg for death as a way to scare off lynches/NK, and seen it work. So dunno.

Just thoughts on the DVMD situation.
 
I just basically ran from potential wolves IRL. But it's all good, Uber is great.

Cray, when you quote my posts that much and say I'm making good points, it makes me nervous. You always think I'm sketchastic.
 
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