StardeWW 2: Ginger Island - GAME THREAD

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Day 5

"No one ever runs against me when it's time for an election."

Lewis shook his head. He'd always known he was the true mayor of this town. They'd tried to replace him with not 1, but 2 usurpers. Well, they were gone now. And just look at how unstable and unsafe the town had become under the leadership of others. Truly, Ginger Island was only safe with his guidance.

"You know," he said, talking to no one in particular, "crows are really underappreciated. They have these beautiful, glossy feathers. They have outstanding memories. And once you befriend them, once they know they can trust you, they'll use their cunning and their intelligence to do everything to help you."

"Oh yes, they'll help you. You never know what they'll find and bring to you! They like shiny things, of course. They're outstanding at finding treasures."

He smirked. That wasn't all the crows had done to help him. Oh no. They'd helped him to cripple the farms of his competitors, getting him out ahead to have the best produce, the top producing farm. It was what he wanted, after all. What better way to show that he was the one true leader of Ginger Island than to definitively prove that he knew more about farming in the tropics than anyone else?

Lewis wasn't surprised at all by people accusing him of coveting Pam's job. He had a history, after all, and the past follows a fellow forever. He shrugged off the accusations; he couldn't change his past choices, all he could do was exemplify that he was a reformed man. A changed soul. Someone they could trust with their lives.

The accusation that he was 3 crows in a trench coat came a bit out of left field. "First of all," he retorted, "I would be a lot smaller if I were 3 crows in a trench coat. Secondly, this isn't even a trench coat, perhaps you should speak to Haley about fashion because clearly you don't know what it is."

Gus squinted at him and caught the eye of Kent, who wouldn't take his eyes off Lewis and had his hand hovering near his hip, perhaps flashing back to his days in the service. They knew something was off here.

"You didn't deny being crows, I noticed." Gus' mild demeanor masked his resolve. He was ready to fight for this if it meant his own survival.

Lewis rubbed the back of his neck uncertainly. He didn't really want to be in the spotlight right now, not like this. He was busy. He had more planned. This wasn't the right time. He gave a nervous cough.

"Was that a caw? You can tell me." Kent quipped. The ice from Lewis' eyes could have frozen anything, even someone on the hot plains of Argentina.

Before they could bundle him onto the boat to return to Stardew Valley, there was a swirl of feathers. There was no sign of Lewis. A massive flock of crows was speeding away toward the sunset, cawing in panic.

Do you know what they call a group of crows?
A murder.

Dead is...
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@Stagg737, Crows, and a...
WOLF who could cause 1 mass crop failure and receive a portion of the profits from the crops he destroyed

7 players remain.

1. @potentialsheltervet
8. @SARdoghandler
12. @JaggedJimmyJay
13. @Barkley13
14. @miranda920
17. @Lawpy
18. @genny

Returned to Stardew Valley:
10. @mightyrunner7, George, WOLF vanillizer
9. @bluestoat, Pierre, neutral 3p
4. @Viscernable, Lightning, Electric WOLF
2. @Animal Midwife, Abigail, village one-shot vigilante
21. @Santygrass, Krobus, village odd night hider
16. @samac, Emily, village every other night commuter
6. @Zenge142, Vincent, village even night redirector
11. @lucy., Penny, vanilla villager
>. @NateTheLesser, Pam, village sleepwalker
5. @Clem J, Shane, vanilla villager
3. @alleycat03, The Bouncer, village bodyguard
7. @WildZoo, Leah, vanilla villager
7.7 @Stagg737, Crows, WOLF mass crop destroyer

Sidecars:
1. @PlumPoppy
2. @futuredogtor614
3. @motheatenlysis
4. @matthirten13

Subs:
1. @mkg323
2. @dyachei
3. @SportPonies

Tots:
1. @justafluff
2. @Ms Procrastinator
3. @chicandtoughness
4. @marmot`

It is now Night 5. Please submit night actions by 8 AM CDT. Night closes officially at 10 AM CDT.
Oho! Nice
 
D0 Mayor Final Tally

AM (3) - Barky, Stagg, Zenge
Barky (2) - miranda, AM
samac (7) - JJJ, stoat, alley, Santy, PSV, samac, Nate
miranda (4) - Coop, SAR, mighty, Vis
Clem (1) - Clem
SAR (1) - Dubz
JJJ (1) - lucy

19/19 voting
Missing: none

D1 Final Tally
Vis (5) - Zenge, AM, stoat, Dubz, PSV
miranda (1) - Barky
Stagg (2) - Lawpy, mighty
mighty (9) - samac, JJJ, Clem, SAR, miranda, Vis, Stagg, Santy, Nate
lucy (1) - alley


18/19 voting
Missing: lucy

D2 Final Tally
Santy (10) -
samac, Dubz, Stagg, alley, Clem, PSV, Lawpy, JJJ, miranda, SAR
PSV (2) - Barky, genny
alley (1) - lucy.
Nate (1) - santy
lucy (1) - Zenge

Barky (1) - Nate

16/16 voting
Missing: none

D3 Final Tally

Barky (3) - PSV, miranda, Clem
Nate (7) - Dubz, Lawpy, genny, Barks, JJJ, alley, SAR
alley (2) - Stagg, Nate


12/13 voting
Missing: Lucy

D4 Final Tally
alley (6)
- Stagg, SAR, Barky, PSV, Lawpy, JJJ
PSV (3) - miranda, alley, genny
miranda (1) - Dubz

10/10 voting
Missing: none

D5 Final Tally
miranda (3) - Lawpy, Barky, Stagg
Stagg (5) - PSV, genny, miranda, JJJ, SAR

8/8 voting
Missing: none
 
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Stagg: less of a lowposter than I thought, and I feel like there is probably enough content to start to form a read, at least for people with more experience playing him. I want to read his tone as villagey but I have a high index of suspicion for Stagg from him reportedly being hard to catch as a wolf



Sketchballs. This almost reads kinda villagey to me from how comfortable he feels with jokingly acting sus, but I vaguely remember him acting like this while scumming (what game?? No idea) and lots of veterans say he’s hard to tone read.

I felt like this was a good question as Santy’s original post didn’t explicitly say “both easy to read and no bussing meta would be ideal”. The followup argument once that was clear seem like NAI general WW philosophy and I don’t see the relevance to the current game, plus bordered on rude about other players’ skill at times, so I’m not interested in it.

But one thing that’s bugging me is that he early on seemed to be objecting to voting someone based on no-bussing-meta “versus” being an easy read, and this lead into him arguing that no-bussing makes an easy read. Staggs, if you think that makes someone an easy read, what was the holdup with the idea of no-bussing being a good mayor quality? You even recognize this later:

So I don’t get why the argument happened in the first place.

I don’t get the objection to noob!mayor, imo often noobs are more co-operative and less prone to main character syndrome/hero-play BS, and although yeah noobs can be unpredictable to read I think on average noob wolves are caught more often than experienced wolves. Plus they’re fun to watch enjoying being mayor.
Hmm
 
I feel like at this point there's a high likelihood of there being a wolf in Stagg/miranda. I'm undecided on which one is individually more wolfy.
I recognize lots of things look bad for miranda and I was definitely taken in by the ATE with Santy. Trying to decide if miranda's movements are more or less logical for a wolf than Stagg's, and the answer is "idk."
Kinda think this is coming from a villagey mindset
 
I feel the mirandas approach runs a similar problem to alleys, santy and nates. In that she could be a villager who’s just giving off strong wolfy vibes, which allows wolves who are giving off strong village vibes to blend through and get miscleared.
 

I've been working through this today. It's a chart meant to depict mafia teammate compatibility. Dark green means I think two players are unlikely to be teammates. Light green is a less confident version of that where I see some kind of indicators to separate people without feeling the same security. And yellow means I don't have a compelling reason to say they're not both mafia (i.e., they're at least technically compatible).

I've shared a few points that I found along the way here in the thread today, but I've avoided totally spamming every single thing. If there are questions I can refer back to specific interactions to point out the things I had in mind. I think my main takeaway here is that I wouldn't eliminate Lawpy or Barky today, because they're the hardest to find teammates for. Genny is compatible with nearly everyone, but that should be taken with a grain of salt -- genny's posting style lends itself to making this analysis difficult (no slight, play however you like).
Although it’s concerning that SAR and mirandas have pretty much identical compatibilities from this chart.
 
Lawp, it's not me.

But at least with Stagg flipped we've bought some time so if everyone feels like I need to be flipped so you can get out of your tunnel then sure, at least it's death.

But I'm honestly a little peeved that I was a tie breaker on not one but two wolves and apparently that makes me suspect #1. I'm not as pure of a non-busser as Zenge but I HATE bussing and I feel like your campaign against me is trying to tarnish that reputation
 
Night 5

"I've been trying to forget about that. *shudder*"

Pelican Town and Ginger Island were very different from being a soldier in the war. Though Kent's heralded return had been peaceful, sometimes he was unable to shake the demons that followed him and haunted his thoughts at night. He didn't talk about it much, but his time in the Gotoro prison camp had changed him, and while he hid his trauma well most of the time, his uneasy glances over his shoulder or jumpiness at the sound of popcorn being made revealed his inner turmoil.

He didn't like to talk about that, but he sure did like to talk about other things. His conversations with everyone were the talk of the town - even if large gatherings made him uneasy, private communications delighted him and he'd jumped at the opportunity to open those channels. His wry wit and sarcastic sense of humor brought chuckles to everyone who talked to him.

The darkness of the night exacerbated his concerns. He tried to rationalize that he was safe because all he was doing was cultivating enough wheat to feed the entire island. So much wheat, in fact, that he'd written a novella about putting wheat into the annual Luau soup. And now, with his wheat empire firmly established, he was beginning to branch out into other areas of agriculture - ducks, specifically. Duckriculture.

He'd heard that the best way to transport ducks was to have them on a string, which he took with him to the store. The store owner gave him a sideways look when he ordered 5 ducks on a string, thinking this guy was a bit quackers, but he and his ducks went merrily on their way.

Until they didn't.

The figure standing by the side of the road gave off a vibe that reminded Kent of his days in the war. He gave a tug on the string to encourage the ducks to waddle faster, but those webbed feet can only go so fast.

Duck Duckling GIF - Duck Duckling Baby - Discover & Share GIFs


In the midst of the struggle that followed, he couldn't help but think to himself that he had predicted this. All of those late hours sitting up at night hadn't been idle paranoia. If only he had kept training on his self defense maneuvers... but it was too late now.

They found him the next morning, lying on the road from the store to his house. His ducks, loyal to the end, were milling around him, quacking in concern. The string lay broken in the dirt.

It seemed like the start of an eerie nursery rhyme.

The warm of the sun rising over the valley
Returns village to work, looking back at the tally
They farm and they garden, at night the wolves sing
But beware and make haste; no more ducks on a string.


Dead is...
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@genny, Kent, and a...
3P. As her wincon can still be met, it will not be revealed at this time.

6 players remain.

1. @potentialsheltervet
8. @SARdoghandler
12. @JaggedJimmyJay
13. @Barkley13
14. @miranda920
17. @Lawpy

Returned to Stardew Valley:
10. @mightyrunner7, George, WOLF vanillizer
9. @bluestoat, Pierre, neutral 3p
4. @Viscernable, Lightning, Electric WOLF
2. @Animal Midwife, Abigail, village one-shot vigilante
21. @Santygrass, Krobus, village odd night hider
16. @samac, Emily, village every other night commuter
6. @Zenge142, Vincent, village even night redirector
11. @lucy., Penny, vanilla villager
>. @NateTheLesser, Pam, village sleepwalker
5. @Clem J, Shane, vanilla villager
3. @alleycat03, The Bouncer, village bodyguard
7. @WildZoo, Leah, vanilla villager
7.7 @Stagg737, Crows, WOLF mass crop destroyer
18. @genny, Kent, REDACTED 3p

Sidecars:
1. @PlumPoppy
2. @futuredogtor614
3. @motheatenlysis
4. @matthirten13

Subs:
1. @mkg323
2. @dyachei
3. @SportPonies

Tots:
1. @justafluff
2. @Ms Procrastinator
3. @chicandtoughness
4. @marmot`

It is now Day 6. Vote closes tomorrow, 3/27, at 10 PM CDT.
 

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Night 5

"I've been trying to forget about that. *shudder*"

Pelican Town and Ginger Island were very different from being a soldier in the war. Though Kent's heralded return had been peaceful, sometimes he was unable to shake the demons that followed him and haunted his thoughts at night. He didn't talk about it much, but his time in the Gotoro prison camp had changed him, and while he hid his trauma well most of the time, his uneasy glances over his shoulder or jumpiness at the sound of popcorn being made revealed his inner turmoil.

He didn't like to talk about that, but he sure did like to talk about other things. His conversations with everyone were the talk of the town - even if large gatherings made him uneasy, private communications delighted him and he'd jumped at the opportunity to open those channels. His wry wit and sarcastic sense of humor brought chuckles to everyone who talked to him.

The darkness of the night exacerbated his concerns. He tried to rationalize that he was safe because all he was doing was cultivating enough wheat to feed the entire island. So much wheat, in fact, that he'd written a novella about putting wheat into the annual Luau soup. And now, with his wheat empire firmly established, he was beginning to branch out into other areas of agriculture - ducks, specifically. Duckriculture.

He'd heard that the best way to transport ducks was to have them on a string, which he took with him to the store. The store owner gave him a sideways look when he ordered 5 ducks on a string, thinking this guy was a bit quackers, but he and his ducks went merrily on their way.

Until they didn't.

The figure standing by the side of the road gave off a vibe that reminded Kent of his days in the war. He gave a tug on the string to encourage the ducks to waddle faster, but those webbed feet can only go so fast.

Duck Duckling GIF - Duck Duckling Baby - Discover & Share GIFs


In the midst of the struggle that followed, he couldn't help but think to himself that he had predicted this. All of those late hours sitting up at night hadn't been idle paranoia. If only he had kept training on his self defense maneuvers... but it was too late now.

They found him the next morning, lying on the road from the store to his house. His ducks, loyal to the end, were milling around him, quacking in concern. The string lay broken in the dirt.

It seemed like the start of an eerie nursery rhyme.

The warm of the sun rising over the valley
Returns village to work, looking back at the tally
They farm and they garden, at night the wolves sing
But beware and make haste; no more ducks on a string.


Dead is...
View attachment 368419
@genny, Kent, and a...
3P. As her wincon can still be met, it will not be revealed at this time.

6 players remain.

1. @potentialsheltervet
8. @SARdoghandler
12. @JaggedJimmyJay
13. @Barkley13
14. @miranda920
17. @Lawpy

Returned to Stardew Valley:
10. @mightyrunner7, George, WOLF vanillizer
9. @bluestoat, Pierre, neutral 3p
4. @Viscernable, Lightning, Electric WOLF
2. @Animal Midwife, Abigail, village one-shot vigilante
21. @Santygrass, Krobus, village odd night hider
16. @samac, Emily, village every other night commuter
6. @Zenge142, Vincent, village even night redirector
11. @lucy., Penny, vanilla villager
>. @NateTheLesser, Pam, village sleepwalker
5. @Clem J, Shane, vanilla villager
3. @alleycat03, The Bouncer, village bodyguard
7. @WildZoo, Leah, vanilla villager
7.7 @Stagg737, Crows, WOLF mass crop destroyer
18. @genny, Kent, REDACTED 3p

Sidecars:
1. @PlumPoppy
2. @futuredogtor614
3. @motheatenlysis
4. @matthirten13

Subs:
1. @mkg323
2. @dyachei
3. @SportPonies

Tots:
1. @justafluff
2. @Ms Procrastinator
3. @chicandtoughness
4. @marmot`

It is now Day 6. Vote closes tomorrow, 3/27, at 10 PM CDT.
Hmm
 
That was unexpected.
I don't know if it means SAR is the wolf or we're supposed to think that.
 
Lawp, it's not me.

But at least with Stagg flipped we've bought some time so if everyone feels like I need to be flipped so you can get out of your tunnel then sure, at least it's death.

But I'm honestly a little peeved that I was a tie breaker on not one but two wolves and apparently that makes me suspect #1. I'm not as pure of a non-busser as Zenge but I HATE bussing and I feel like your campaign against me is trying to tarnish that reputation
Breaking ties is sadly NAI because wolves don’t want to die in a mass death either.
 
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