Stranger Things Part 2 - WW Game Thread

[Animal Midwife]

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Midwife this post also sketches me out a wee bit…. It was vis that first pointed this out. Not genny

I'm pretty sure it wasn't.

 

[alissa14]

Wut

yeah, that's a weird reaction after the troll write up

@Animal Midwife

 

[Truenamer]

***
Sincerest apologies, WW fam, I am moving back to the east coast and it’s been….oooof I’ll be back on thread tonight
***

Moving is literally the worst thing in the world, if there's anything we can do to help please don't hesitate to let us know.

 

[Animal Midwife]

@Animal Midwife

Yes. There's genny bringing it up.

 

[alissa14]

Idk how true is when wolf but when I am a wolf I tend to check wolf chat before thread. I thought his reaction to the PSV fake flip seemed off, but if wolf, I would assume he wouldn’t have done something like that because it would bring a lot of unnecessary attention on him.

 

[alissa14]

Yes. There's genny bringing it up.

But vis reacted to it first

 

[Animal Midwife]

But vis reacted to it first

I mean, yeah, it was about her. How is "wut" equivalent to Vis saying that you had TMI though?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Idk how true is when wolf but when I am a wolf I tend to check wolf chat before thread. I thought his reaction to the PSV fake flip seemed off, but if wolf, I would assume he wouldn’t have done something like that because it would bring a lot of unnecessary attention on him.

What does checking wolfchat before the thread have to do with the fake flip?

 

[alissa14]

What does checking wolfchat before the thread have to do with the fake flip?

Idk in my head he probably wouldve seen the confusion from the fake PSV flip in wolf chat and not needed that weird post about “oh I guess I need to burn my reading card”

 

[alissa14]

I didnt like his reading card post but reading it again it sounds genuine in the moment

 

[Animal Midwife]

Idk in my head he probably wouldve seen the confusion from the fake PSV flip in wolf chat and not needed that weird post about “oh I guess I need to burn my reading card”

I still don't understand what that has to do with wolfchat. It's not like they're warned in advance about fake flips (unless it's exactly a fake flip requested by a dying wolf).

 

[Animal Midwife]

I didnt like his reading card post but reading it again it sounds genuine in the moment

So who's in your POE instead?

 

[alissa14]

You thought breaking a tie to psv was bussing? Sure jan.

Oh wait. I can see in hindsight that this makes little sense. But I was trying to see who may be wolf based on the first fake flip. And it pinged me as bussing at the time. But now im seeing it makes no sense. Please be aware I was operating on about 2 hours of sleep and had just worked a 10 hour shift prior to me coming on thread

 

[alissa14]

So who's in your POE instead?

Currently alley, True, and maybe vis depending on how far she wants to push my yeet from my actions yesterday

 

[Animal Midwife]

Currently alley, True, and maybe vis depending on how far she wants to push my yeet from my actions yesterday

Not Barks?

 

[alissa14]

My reads look something like

Genny

AM - I have to agree with genny, her following the vote was a bit weird. But overall mostly village
Barks - Nothing overall has pinged me. But I need more

Vis
Alley - need to re-read the PSV interaction. Her frustration seemed genuine, but im a sucker for AtE
True

 

[alissa14]

Not Barks?

I have her square neutral. Her pushing me d1 gave me village feelz but not enough to sort her one way or the other

 

[alissa14]

genny is the only one im 100% sure as of now is village and if im wrong I will eat a stack of dry pancakes

 

[genny]

am i not shoe-worthy??? what's going on?

edit: or a hat at least?

 

[Animal Midwife]

I have her square neutral. Her pushing me d1 gave me village feelz but not enough to sort her one way or the other

Where was she pushing you?

 

[Viscernable]

Well, that absolutely sucks, Zenge had a great PR (and is obviously a strong player even without one).

I think we need to think hard about the vote movement to and from Alley yesterday. If PSV and Alley were both V, I wonder if we'd see a different pattern than if they were V/W.

I know I was part of the problem by voting late, but the rapid consolidation on PSV right before close could be viewed as protecting Alley.

And with that said, we need to be careful. I think we might only get one more misyeet?

I’m getting v/v vibes from the vote progression, I think. I need to look at the early vote movement as well, though - did Barks maybe go to PSV in response to alley getting votes?

 

[alissa14]

I’m going to choose not to find this defensiveness AI because I think you did it last game as village

Do you not need to hear more from alissa? 🤔

Barks with early alissa sus -> a few village points

Maybe im not choosing my words well but I threw her a few village points for sus

 

[Viscernable]

Ok but I’ve never done something something this blatantly obvious as a wolf. Am I bad at lying and fake claiming? Sure. But I’ve never done this. Why aren’t more people jumping down True’s throat for the same thing he was so sure that PSV was village

Because that shows lack of TMI, not TMI. Could also be deliberately faked lack-of-TMI, but overall I’ve felt okay about True so I don’t have reason to think that.

 

[alissa14]

am i not shoe-worthy??? what's going on?

edit: or a hat at least?

I would eat an entire outfit for you genny <3 but pancakes have been discussed this game already so I thought id keep with the theme

 

[alissa14]

Because that shows lack of TMI, not TMI. Could also be deliberately faked lack-of-TMI, but overall I’ve felt okay about True so I don’t have reason to think that.

Vis I cant even pull off a fake claim, what makes you think I can pull off fake lack-of-TMI

 

[Viscernable]

Also im pretty sure I’ve done this as a wolf…. Found some reason to hop on a teammate if them going down was inevitable. My reaction is a direct reaction to PSV fake flipping as wolf. So I thought hmmm vis last minute flip may be a wolf trying to score some last minute points. It was hard because I had been village reading vis. I still am, despite this theory that I somehow rojo’d on thread.

Right, but breaking a tie towards a packmate is the opposite of getting on when them going down in inevitable.

 

[alissa14]

Right, but breaking a tie towards a packmate is the opposite of getting on when them going down in inevitable.

Yes I realize this was faulty logic. Please see my previous post where I addressed this

 

[Animal Midwife]

Maybe im not choosing my words well but I threw her a few village points for sus

Oh. I don't that know if I'd call that sus especially since it was used to push PSV and not you and you were still absent at that point.

 

[Viscernable]

Vis I cant even pull off a fake claim, what makes you think I can pull off fake lack-of-TMI

Well a) I didn’t say you did? b) you’re smart and I have faith in you c) to respond to another of your posts, I also didn’t say you rojo’d. Your reaction looks like TMI of knowing that PSV was village. It’s not a slip, it’s seeing “oh, writeup is up, I know she’s village, that looks bad for people who last-minute voted her”

 

[Viscernable]

Yes. There's genny bringing it up.

I get no credit in this family smh

 

[Truenamer]

Okay Vissy is feeling good today and she's being vouched for by my highest village read, so

unyeet Vis

 

[Animal Midwife]

I get no credit in this family smh

Well, you would agree that genny floated the TMI theory first, right? Not saying you haven't added thoughts to that since then though.

 

[Viscernable]

Oh wait. I can see in hindsight that this makes little sense. But I was trying to see who may be wolf based on the first fake flip. And it pinged me as bussing at the time. But now im seeing it makes no sense. Please be aware I was operating on about 2 hours of sleep and had just worked a 10 hour shift prior to me coming on thread

Tucks alissa in with white noise and hot chocolate

 

[Truenamer]

God this game is small, I was running over the list in my head and it's just

Me
genny
AM
Vis
Barks
Alissa
Alley

remaining, right?

 

[Viscernable]

Well, you would agree that genny floated the TMI theory first, right? Not saying you haven't added thoughts to that since then though.

I mean that’s why I said “what”, I wouldn’t have reacted if I didn’t think it was sus

 

[alissa14]

Well a) I didn’t say you did? b) you’re smart and I have faith in you c) to respond to another of your posts, I also didn’t say you rojo’d. Your reaction looks like TMI of knowing that PSV was village. It’s not a slip, it’s seeing “oh, writeup is up, I know she’s village, that looks bad for people who last-minute voted her”

Maybe laying out my thought process will help.

Me last night on 2 hours of sleep, fake PSV goes up: huh I wasn’t really expecting that so a bit of a pleasant surprise. Lets see who is on the PSV vote to see who has jumped on past minute. Maybe a wolf did to see if they can get last minute bus points.

Me not thinking how vis effectively broke the tie towards PSV: oh maybe this is the slight bus I was looking for. I should comment on it.

Me, today, sleep-nourished with ~10 hours: yeah the light bussing theory makes sense I guess, weird because I thought vis was village lean yesterday.

Me, now: wait that makes no sense for a wolf to do. Better to leave it as a tie and then hope for the best

 

[Animal Midwife]

I mean that’s why I said “what”, I wouldn’t have reacted if I didn’t think it was sus

Oh. I wasn't able to extrapolate this from that word. I thought it was just confusion at alissa's conclusion.

 

[alissa14]

Tucks alissa in with white noise and hot chocolate

Maybe I need your magic fan that helps you pass out on game nights

 

[alissa14]

No not at all… I am truly sorry you feel this way. I’m not sure what it is and it could be the way you play and phrase things that maybe my mind is not agreeing with? I know I tend to tunnel sporty when her and I play together and I’ll keep this more conscious to try and not let it cloud my judgement.

Outside of WW I think you’re a lovely human and I ship you and stoats… also I admire your leather working skills

True, I really am sorry you felt this way. But you tend to react to these kinds of posts and the paranoia in me is wondering, “did true try to appeal to emotion to end my tunnel?” Idk. I really at trying to be better today. Let me go read CYOII and see if I can get a better read

 

[Truenamer]

True, I really am sorry you felt this way. But you tend to react to these kinds of posts and the paranoia in me is wondering, “did true try to appeal to emotion to end my tunnel?” Idk. I really at trying to be better today. Let me go read CYOII and see if I can get a better read

Oh no, I genuinely missed that one. Lemme go react, that was a very nice thing for you to write.

 

[Truenamer]

True, I really am sorry you felt this way. But you tend to react to these kinds of posts and the paranoia in me is wondering, “did true try to appeal to emotion to end my tunnel?” Idk. I really at trying to be better today. Let me go read CYOII and see if I can get a better read

Also lmao the depth of the tunnel is killing me, I'm so glad I'm village because it'll make this much funnier in retrospect.

 

[alissa14]

You're welcome to push him. He's in my POE as well.

Thoughts on potential True/Barks?

 

[Truenamer]

Thoughts on potential True/Barks?

Doesn't make much sense to me.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Thoughts on potential True/Barks?

It'd be weird to stay on True that long D1 if they're partners. Not impossible but seems less likely.

 

[alissa14]

I'm bemused by you being confused that I'm sometimes abrasive when you were part of a wolf pack that made a point to antagonize me for an entire game because of being "too intense".

Oh, I guess I never really addressed that with you? Is that why you've been upset with me this game?

There was never any kind of plan to upset you by that pack. For some reason a couple of them just kept doing it. There was never any discussion about you or any organized focus on you.

I'm not upset with you? I just don't think you're village.

Ughhhh I had a bunch of shorty/true quotes from the last game where shorty was sus of him the whole time but stupid mobile SDN. True’s comments to shorty like “Is that why you've been upset with me this game?” kind of evoked the same feeling of AtE with his comment to me yesterday “Did I do something to offend you?” shorty also explicitly pointed out that True tends to look for approval when posting as wolf. He hasnt been doing that this game but maybe it is because it was explicitly pointed out…

 

[alissa14]

Maybe its just me but I’ve never interpreted people pushing me here as personal attacks against myself, regardless of affiliation, even if it does suck to always be a target. maybe attacks is a strong word choice here… but hopefully you get what im aiming at.

Maybe im just not good at reading True. PSV seemed to be convinced yesterday that he was village

 

[Truenamer]

Maybe its just me but I’ve never interpreted people pushing me here as personal attacks against myself, regardless of affiliation, even if it does suck to always be a target. maybe attacks is a strong word choice here… but hopefully you get what im aiming at.

Maybe im just not good at reading True. PSV seemed to be convinced yesterday that he was village

There's a difference between pushing and tunneling. You're doing the thing where you've clearly come to a conclusion and you're looking for evidence to support the conclusion. It's not a very good way to wolf hunt.

 

[alissa14]

Wait, I know for a fact this isn't how it works, because I personally had Village Lover twice.

The roles aren't conserved.

I mean sure, a lot of scum roles aren't good, but my other two options were Lover or.... Lover

The logic isn't logicking, I'm sorry

You know how I said I got randed village lover twice? Well, actually,

I am absolutely 100% not a wolf, but unfortunately that's all you can tell from this vote. 😞

For vote analysis, there are four flavors of scum, right? Wolf, mafia, and alien, plus the various evil 3Ps.

Given a 16 person game, how many total baddies should we be hunting?

Hmmm I dislike that I have PSV, True, and Alley all in a pot of evil together. They’re like a love triangle except for sus. A sus triangle

The following post is a response to my post above

Consider: True is good

Not too good though, please stop NKing me so quickly

God this game is small, I was running over the list in my head and it's just

Me
genny
AM
Vis
Barks
Alissa
Alley

remaining, right?

Also lmao the depth of the tunnel is killing me, I'm so glad I'm village because it'll make this much funnier in retrospect.

Maybe its a pet peeve of mine but it pings me when people repeatedly refer to themselves as village. He did it a lot last game where he kept repeating that he randed village lover twice because it bought him a few village points from some. And I am seeing it again here.

 

[alissa14]

13 notifications…. Checks…. Oh. alley is back <3 I hope to hear more when youre caught up because I want to see if anything has changed in my feelings for yoy

 

[alissa14]

@alleycat03, I just don't really know where to go. Everyone sounds village, you just felt least good to me.

I knew it, I knew you were village. I'm sorry I couldnt convince them.

Bad villagers. Unhand Truenamer.

No sad reacts true… that AtE is coming late… I’m really trying not to tunnel you.

Spoiler

am I overtired or could tunnel be used in a NSFW context

Oops

True village, zenge villagey, vis and genny village leans, you neutral.
POE: still AM stubbornly, alley, Barks.

I swear on my reading card he is village.

I think
Y'all should yeet Barks tomorrow.
alley is moving slightly out of the POE. But I'm generally prey to AtE.

Hmm Im deciding if village PSV’s solid village read of True is helping with my bias and ending my tunnel… I hope barks comes back 🙁