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Animal Midwife said:
Note the sense it was used in. I never once moved to Lyra nor did I plan to.
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Implied we should lynch Canada over Ontario. I did not say you did/wanted move to Lyra or that you planned to. I implied that you were saying we should lynch Canada over Ontario first in an effort to move Mel votes. I think this point got misconstrued on both parts...
Animal Midwife said:
Why was it futile? You can have more than one person being voted for at a time?
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Animal Midwife said:
Unofficial Day 5 Remember the Robin Lynch Tally

Paws (4) - AM, kata, Pip, snowy
Gryff (1) - jboo
CheezyD (7) - Mixed, Sporty, Jil, Coop, BBC, Paws, kc
staff (1) - Cheez

13/20
Lynch close in 4 hours

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Yes you can obviously have more than one person being voted on at a time, but in this tally a few comments before trying to recruit Jil, they had already voted for Mel and even if she switched Mel was still in the lead.

Animal Midwife said:
She also continued to be bombarded by actions.
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What do you mean by bombarded by actions? I legit don't understand what this means.
 
Day 1 Lynch Tally
kc (2) - Cray, jboo
DVMD (1) - Sporty
Coop (1) - SoFlo
greeney (3) - Fern, Kara, KC
Fern (2) - vmh, genny
Pippy (1) - FTB
3m (1) - Snowy
Jil () -
Teep (1) - allie
SoFlo (1) - kata
dy (1) - staff
allie (1) - lyra
Cray (1) - cowgirl
Sporty (1) - 3m
FTB (2) - Pippy, Paws
Snowy (2) - Mel, DVMD
staff (3) - dy, AM, Coop

24/28
Missing: LIS, Teep, greeney, Jil

Day 2 Lynch Tally
Snowy () -
allie (8) - kc, Paws, jboo, Lyra, Jil, LeTits, DVMD, Sporty
cowgirl (1) - Teep
Mel (2) - cowgirl, SoFlo
Cray (2) - Kara, Snowy
Coop (1) - dy
staff (7) - genny, Coop, vmh, allie, Mel, AM, FTB
SoFlo (2) - Fern, kata
dy (1) - staff

24/26
Missing: 3m, Cray

Day 3 Lynch Tally (pre-dy)
staff () -
SoFlo (1) - Lyra
dy (6) - vmh, jboo, AM, Pippy, kc, Coop
Mel (7) - Snowy, Sporty, Jil, Cray, dy, Fern, DVMD
Cray (1) - Kara

15/24
Missing: staff, SoFlo, cowgirl, genny, Mel, kata, Paws, 3m, FTB

Day 3 Lynch Tally (post-dy)
staff () -
SoFlo (3) - Lyra, kata, Fern
Mel (2) - Sporty, Jil
Cray (9) - Kara, Coop, Pippy, jboo, Paws, 3m, DVMD, Snowy, Cray
Pippy () -
genny (2) - kc, vmh
kc (1) - FTB
Coop (1) - SoFlo
FTB (2) - cowgirl, genny
Snowy (2) - Mel, AM

22/23
Missing: staff

Day 4 Lynch Tally
SoFlo (5) - Mel, Fern, Lyra, Mixed, Jil
Paws (2) - Kara, AM
FTB (8) - Paws, jboo, kc, cowgirl, Pippy, vmh, Coop, DVMD
cowgirl () -
Lyra () -
Sporty (2) - kata, 3m
kata (1) - Snowy

18/22
Missing: FTB, SloGlow, staff, Sporty

Day 5 Lynch Tally
Paws (4) - AM, kata, Pip, snowy
CheezyD (11) - Mixed, Sporty, Jil, Coop, BBC, Paws, kc, meats, jboo, 3m, staff
staff (1) - Cheez
SoFlo (2) - Lyra, cowgirl

18/20
Missing: DVMD, SoFlo
 
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katashark said:
Do we think that both rezzes are village? I can't remember if we established any info on that, but with Pippy popping up confirmed village, it makes me look at mixedanimals a bit more.

Also, paws, retaliatory lynch votes are usually seen as wolfy.
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I’m feeling mix is also village just due to play yesterday.
 
Can someone please double check this, on mobile

Day 6 When Did It Get So Quiet Lynch Tally

Paws (1) - AM
lyra (1) - snowy
AM (4) - Mixy, Paws, KC, Lyra

6/16 votes
Lynch deadline 10pm EST
Ho, ho, ho, jingle bells to all!
 
Ok I'm awake and mostly alive. So lyra I think we've all learned not to judge wolfyness based on roles or abilities. Just saying. I made a posting restriction extra kill in telenova so nothing is out of reach. I think AM I'd sketch as all get out as do I think that about paws. I'm not willing to lynch lyra just yet. If one or both of them flips village then I'd say go for her. I also am wondering about dvmd because of pip. Wish I had some more murder wine. Let me think on it, be back later at some point.

Also soflogryff please vote today, I promise not to rip your head off.
 
Coopah said:
Ok I'm awake and mostly alive. So lyra I think we've all learned not to judge wolfyness based on roles or abilities. Just saying. I made a posting restriction extra kill in telenova so nothing is out of reach. I think AM I'd sketch as all get out as do I think that about paws. I'm not willing to lynch lyra just yet. If one or both of them flips village then I'd say go for her. I also am wondering about dvmd because of pip. Wish I had some more murder wine. Let me think on it, be back later at some point.

Also soflogryff please vote today, I promise not to rip your head off.
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Soflo got mod killed as did staff
 
Jilary said:
Anyone know why staff was mod killed? I know there was inactivity, but I thought he posted a bunch yesterday?
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He did, but the way the post was worded I got the impression it was too little too late. Also he had a power that apparently he never used, I don't know if that played into it too?
 
Jilary said:
I have a hard time believing wolves would have converted that early unless they had to. With dy as a wolf, she would have certainly told them to hold off on converting as long as possible.
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Actually, she may have told them to convert immediately depending on the circumstances. If there was a chance of losing their conversion in any way, I could see her encouraging to use it early. At least I hope that they converted early because that's a lot of original wolves otherwise.
 
DVMDream said:
Actually, she may have told them to convert immediately depending on the circumstances. If there was a chance of losing their conversion in any way, I could see her encouraging to use it early. At least I hope that they converted early because that's a lot of original wolves otherwise.
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That’s kinda what I meant by saying they wouldn’t have done it unless they had to. I don’t recall seeing any of the dead wolves having a conversion ability. So maybe someone that was under suspicion d1?
 
vetmedhead said:
AM's play today is way more aggressive than I'm used to from her. Why the change?
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Because I'm literally handing you a wolf and I'm getting lynched instead.

LyraGardenia said:
Lynch AM based on her posts that Mixy quoted and her weird reversal of opinion on me. I know I said last night I wasn't really feeling AM but well, my gut has been wrong this whole game. Tunneling on Paws just for being slow to answer questions is strange.
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Those posts are being taken out of context. I never wanted you to be lynched.

johnnaboo said:
I'd be mad and super defensive too if I were a wolf and the village was gunna kill their second wolf in a row. :whistle:
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I sure hope you aren't the convert. Because this looks awful if I flip.
 
Unofficial Day 6 When Did It Get So Quiet Lynch Tally
Paws (1) - AM
AM (6) - kc, Paws, Mixed, Lyra, jboo, Coop
Lyra (1) - Snowy

8/16
lynch close in 7 hours
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Animal Midwife said:
Because I'm literally handing you a wolf and I'm getting lynched instead.



Those posts are being taken out of context. I never wanted you to be lynched.



I sure hope you aren't the convert. Because this looks awful if I flip.
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You are making no sense..
 
Well I don't think AM is an original wolf, but her play recently is more aggressive then normal so could be a convert. I am fine with the votes going that way, but it's kinda already becoming a bandwagon. I don't always get AM's reasonings and question games, so I'm not going to try to read those one way or another. But just thinking AM is someone mel would probably pocket and she does tunnel people really hard so those are not unusual imo. I just don't think she started the game as a wolf, but I could be wrong because I totally didn't have mel as a wolf yesterday either.

I'm actually good with all the people on the table today being lynched. I want to test out my lyra theory though so I'm sticking with that for right now, but if nobody else wants to go that direction I would be fine with paws or dvmd. And when I have time later I'll go compare beginning game AM to recent AM and see what I think.
 
Animal Midwife said:
What part doesn't make sense?
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1. Do you know paws is a wolf?
2. Okay that statement makes sense, but what would be the reason canada is village and lake ontario is a wolf?
3. How does this statement make boo look sketchy whatever affiliation you flip?
 
SnowshoeDog143 said:
1. Do you know paws is a wolf?
2. Okay that statement makes sense, but what would be the reason canada is village and lake ontario is a wolf?
3. How does this statement make boo look sketchy whatever affiliation you flip?
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1. Based on my discussion with Kara, I have reason to believe something is up.
2. I've never heard of other Michiganders having problems with Canada. I'm sorry I let my "never a wolf" mentality get in the way of Ontario.
3. It almost feels like a joke vote in the way that it's worded. Why are wolves the only ones allowed to defend?
 
Animal Midwife said:
It almost feels like a joke vote in the way that it's worded. Why are wolves the only ones allowed to defend?
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Didn't intend it as a joke, it's just that you got very irritated when we started putting pressure on you. That would make sense to me if you are a wolf, especially considering we just got Mel. And there's nothing that says you can't defend yourself if you're village--but the way you defended yourself didn't seem very village to me.
 
johnnaboo said:
Didn't intend it as a joke, it's just that you got very irritated when we started putting pressure on you. That would make sense to me if you are a wolf, especially considering we just got Mel. And there's nothing that says you can't defend yourself if you're village--but the way you defended yourself didn't seem very village to me.
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What about my defense didn't you like?
 
Life went a little crazy and I will most likely be gone for the rest of today and likely part of tomorrow.

Don't have time to go post my thoughts from yesterday, but will do so tomorrow once I have more than 5 minutes to sit down.

I've been slightly side-eyeing AM all game (especially after saying Lake Ontario was in Michican), but after the results last night I want to go test the Canada angle. So Lynch Lyra
 
johnnaboo said:
Didn't intend it as a joke, it's just that you got very irritated when we started putting pressure on you. That would make sense to me if you are a wolf, especially considering we just got Mel. And there's nothing that says you can't defend yourself if you're village--but the way you defended yourself didn't seem very village to me.
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The bolded is how I felt about paws as soon as s/he was getting some lynch votes yesterday, s/he wasn't leading and immediately lashed out at me with a non-defense and had a retaliatory vote last night. However, AM's play today has made me very wary of her.

I could go with paws, AM, dvmd (only because I have very little info, but I could have been missing things. I skimmed yesterday and there were a lot of pages). I'll get on board with testing out if Canada is a wolf.

lynch lyra

AM already has a bandwagon and is probably gone today. I've heard everyone's reasoning and I get it.
 
Animal Midwife said:
If Ontario is actually an issue, then you need to lynch Canada first.
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Ok, so this is the first thing that caught me. I get that you may have made a mistake with the Ontario thing (although a simple google search of the lake would have indicated otherwise but anyways), but lynching Canada I don't agree with. Like, who's ever had a bad thought about Canada?

Animal Midwife said:
When did I want to lynch Lyra? I was trying to make a point
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True, but you implicitly suggested we lynch Lyra in the above quote.

Animal Midwife said:
Okay. Then I don't want Lyra lynched at all if she's Canada.
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THIS is a big contributor to your sketchiness. You flip flopped really quickly.

Animal Midwife said:
This is ridiculous Coop. It's pretty obvious who it is.
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I don't think it's ridiculous. I think it's a fair question. And not obvious to anyone else.

Animal Midwife said:
I won't celebrate until Paws is gone.
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T U N N E L I N G. And given all of this weird change of opinion with Canada, this to me indicates you're trying to defend yourself by redirecting onto someone else.


That's just my read. Could be totally wrong, but your defenses to others' criticisms have been disproportionate to earlier in the game where there was hardly any kickback when someone looked at you sideways. To me, that screams wolf.
 
AM’s posts today really scream of a floundering wolf. I wanted to believe she was village, and tried to hold off on voting her way, but I feel like she’s my top choice right now. VMH is also up there, and I’m not denying there is sketch with paws too, but I’d like to see how AM flips first.

Lynch am

When did DVMD come out with the convert info? That has her lower on my list atm.
 
Lynch Lyra

(Your not gonna hear much from me tonight. Not being sketch, just had something crappy and personal come up this evening. I'll be back tomorrow.)
 
vetmedhead said:
Lynch am

The super reactive posts are way outside of normal for her
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I went through and reread all of AM's posts this morning, and it seems like the super reactive posts are different than the beginning of game, even. Not sure what to think, I want to do a little more rereading before I decide.
 
johnnaboo said:
Ok, so this is the first thing that caught me. I get that you may have made a mistake with the Ontario thing (although a simple google search of the lake would have indicated otherwise but anyways), but lynching Canada I don't agree with. Like, who's ever had a bad thought about Canada?
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jboo, you keep ignoring the context it was in. I was implying not to lynch Ontario OR Canada.

johnnaboo said:
True, but you implicitly suggested we lynch Lyra in the above quote.
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If I actually meant that, I would've lynched Mel that night.

johnnaboo said:
THIS is a big contributor to your sketchiness. You flip flopped really quickly.
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Once again, c o n t e x t.

johnnaboo said:
I don't think it's ridiculous. I think it's a fair question. And not obvious to anyone else.
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Do you wonder why no one else sees it? Do you think Paws might be a certain somebody important?

johnnaboo said:
T U N N E L I N G. And given all of this weird change of opinion with Canada, this to me indicates you're trying to defend yourself by redirecting onto someone else.
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Not all tunneling is bad. Sometimes it's with really good reason and no one listens and AM get f'ed over every time.

johnnaboo said:
That's just my read. Could be totally wrong, but your defenses to others' criticisms have been disproportionate to earlier in the game where there was hardly any kickback when someone looked at you sideways. To me, that screams wolf.
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I think this loop back around to your original post, but when did anyone look at me sideways before? And how was I different?
 
Couldn't find a point before where someone suspected you. You've been under the radar for a while, but supposedly I'm not the only one who noticed.

TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo said:
I've been slightly side-eyeing AM all game
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Animal Midwife said:
And how was I different?
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Allow me to answer your question with a quote from our neighborhood wolf.

Melchizedek said:
AM - Reads like village AM, asking questions, tightlipped about her own theories.
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You haven't been so tight-lipped today. Also not a good sign that Mel said this, but who knows what master plan he had.
 
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