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Jilary said:
Ok, I get the paws votes, but I don’t think she’s going to net us a wolf. She role revealed to me earlier today, and unless MI hates one of the symbols of their state, I don’t think she could be an original.
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Ugh.

But we have a convert, right? So there's something somewhere.

Edit: I don't know what "something somewhere" means. Maybe it's time for bed.

I'd be fine seeing canada go as well, don't know whether to run with AM's tunnel or to question the role. Both seem equally plausible at this point.
 
I just can't see it. I don't think it's paws it's either dvmd or johnnaboo. Since pip had the seer results imma go with

Contingency
Unlynch paws lynch dvmd
 
Coopah said:
I just can't see it. I don't think it's paws it's either dvmd or johnnaboo. Since pip had the seer results imma go with

Contingency
Unlynch paws lynch dvmd
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"It's"??? What do you mean by "it's"? Because as far as I am concerned there is way more than just an "it's" remaining. Why are you looking for a single one? Or are you convert hunting? And if so, why?
 
Coopah said:
The wolf, I kinda thought one more original but maybe more idk.
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Well, we know at least one convert and a number was posted very early on that there were 4 wolves, if that was before conversion, we've got a minimum of two. If that was after, we're looking for a convert....

So you think I'm an original then? Per your own wording. Interesting considering what we know and has been posted on thread.
 
DVMDream said:
Well, we know at least one convert and a number was posted very early on that there were 4 wolves, if that was before conversion, we've got a minimum of two. If that was after, we're looking for a convert....

So you think I'm an original then? Per your own wording. Interesting considering what we know and has been posted on thread.
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Dude I'm not paying that much attention to wording rn. I think you might be a wolf. The end.
 
Coopah said:
Dude I'm not paying that much attention to wording rn. I think you might be a wolf. The end.
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Isn't the point to pay attention to the information in the game so that you can use that to best determine who is and isn't a wolf? This isn't "wording", it is numbers and info that should be considered.
 
I have so much Motown to make up for. You may even start to get a little sick of it.


Found dead this morning was @SnowshoeDog143 - Michigan Wolverines, a villager who could communicate with another player regardless of roster changes

It is now Day 7. 14 players remain. Lynch deadline is 10 pm EST

Upper Peninsula “The Yoopers”
4. @MixedAnimals77
7. @mmmdreamerz
9. @vetmedhead
10. @johnnaboo
28. @LyraGardenia

Mackinac Bridge “Mighty Mac”
11. @DVMDream
14. @cowgirl92
16. @SportPonies

Lower Peninsula “The Trolls”
18. @Jilary
21. @katashark
24. @kcoughli
26. @TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo
27. @StayingPositive2017

Out of Service
6. @Coopah

Hell, Michigan
17. greeneyegal92 - Buckeyes
22. allieh8607 - Lake Erie
5. Teepster87 - The Henry Ford
8. dyachei - Construction
15. Crayola227 - Bronner's Christmas Wonderland
1. genny - Tart Cherry
2. fromthebox - Lake Superior
20. Karabiner13 - American Robin
12. Melchizedek - Lake Ontario
25. staff_wielder - Motown
3. SoFloGryffindor - Presque Isle Park
13. PippyPony - North Manitou Island (formerly Lake Michigan)
19. Animal Midwife - Up North
23. SnowshoeDog143 - Michigan Wolverines
 
DVMDream said:
Isn't the point to pay attention to the information in the game so that you can use that to best determine who is and isn't a wolf? This isn't "wording", it is numbers and info that should be considered.
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Yes but it's 1AM here and I shouldn't be playing when tired. Also I asked the travel guide if there was a redirecter in the game it said yes. I wanted to confirm it was redirecter not unseerable wolf doing the changing. With that note I'm going to

Unlynch dvmd lynch johnnaboo
 
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The Dead's Day 7 Lynch Tally
Paws (4) - Sporty, kata, Lyra, kc
DVMD () -
jboo (1) - Coop

5/14
lynch close in 21 hours
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Knowing AM was indeed village she had a strong instinct about Paws... however the wolves wanted to get rid of Snowy who voted for Lyra 2 days in a row... I'll have to consider this more tomorrow if I get the chance but I have a job interview and a very busy day and might not get the chance to play much so I'm going to
####Lynch Lyra####
and go with that theory of things not Michigan= wolf for now.
 
johnnaboo said:
*sigh* I thought I was actually figuring this game out. Sorry, AM.

FWIW, I’m not a wolf, original or convert. I’m a White-Tailed Deer.
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Coopah said:
what? How is that a Michigan thing?
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My nerd brain automatically thought about the population of deer in Michigan with mycobacterium bovis lol

But white-tail deer are pretty common in this general part of the country anyway. They aren’t really bad unless they crash into you when your driving (or vise versa) lol

Whatever her role, I agree with AM’s observation about a good convert option. Jboo has set off feels a couple times...
 
I’m honestly not super convinced on the Paws lynch at this point...

I’d rather go for Lyra, Jboo, or even DVMD...not unconvinced that she’s not a wolf at this point.
 
Coopah said:
Yes but it's 1AM here and I shouldn't be playing when tired. Also I asked the travel guide if there was a redirecter in the game it said yes. I wanted to confirm it was redirecter not unseerable wolf doing the changing. With that note I'm going to

Unlynch dvmd lynch johnnaboo
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Okay so maybe confirmed redirector we can blame for Pippys night results...probably a wolf redirector, we think?
 
SkiOtter said:
I hope the deer aren't driving and crashing into people...
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I am from what is probably one of the white-tail deer capitals of the world lol... they may not be driving but they definitely crash into you sometimes lol
 
LyraGardenia said:
Also confused why johnnaboo role-revealed with so little pressure, but I'll chalk it up to noob-iness.
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I mean yeah probably. I’ll quickly learn the repercussions of this. Also revealed bc I didn’t want AM’s last post damning me. But also...

White-tailed deer are the state mammal of Michigan and can run at speeds up to 35 mph. As you (safely) cross the roads, you may transport one person to a new location on the roster each night. You may not clear an entire category of people--in other words, each group must have at least one person in it at all times.
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My role reveal was purposeful bc I wanted to show you guys that I'm village. My role is not a PR (I don't think) so imo it's not a huge loss to reveal this about myself. But we'll see. I am still a noob, so this may be shooting myself in the foot. Idk

Every night except 1, I've moved people around the board who I thought were mildly sketchy to hopefully isolate them and make them slip up.

N1: Allie
N2: Mel
N3: SoFlo
N5: Coop
N6: Lyra

So yeah, I'm not a convert nor an original wolf.
 
johnnaboo said:
I mean yeah probably. I’ll quickly learn the repercussions of this. Also revealed bc I didn’t want AM’s last post damning me. But also...



My role reveal was purposeful bc I wanted to show you guys that I'm village. My role is not a PR (I don't think) so imo it's not a huge loss to reveal this about myself. But we'll see. I am still a noob, so this may be shooting myself in the foot. Idk

Every night except 1, I've moved people around the board who I thought were mildly sketchy to hopefully isolate them and make them slip up.

N1: Allie
N2: Mel
N3: SoFlo
N5: Coop
N6: Lyra

So yeah, I'm not a convert nor an original wolf.
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If you’re the convert, your role isn’t going to have much to do with whether or not your village. And anyway, the roles in this game aren’t the easiest to determine village vs. wolf
 
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The Dead's Day 7 Lynch Tally
Paws (5) - Sporty, kata, Lyra, kc, jboo
DVMD () -
jboo (1) - Coop
Lyra (1) - Mixy

7/14
lynch close in 14 hours
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Can someone remind me why we backed off Lyra? Traveling today so hard to read through the thread, I know I had suspicions after isoing her and then felt like she was cleared shortly after? Will have to find that day
 
StayingPositive2017 said:
Can someone remind me why we backed off Lyra? Traveling today so hard to read through the thread, I know I had suspicions after isoing her and then felt like she was cleared shortly after? Will have to find that day
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1) she’s Canada, MI seems to have a good relationship with this neighbor
2) she hasn’t used her ability in an obstructive way
 
johnnaboo said:
I mean yeah probably. I’ll quickly learn the repercussions of this. Also revealed bc I didn’t want AM’s last post damning me. But also...



My role reveal was purposeful bc I wanted to show you guys that I'm village. My role is not a PR (I don't think) so imo it's not a huge loss to reveal this about myself. But we'll see. I am still a noob, so this may be shooting myself in the foot. Idk

Every night except 1, I've moved people around the board who I thought were mildly sketchy to hopefully isolate them and make them slip up.

N1: Allie
N2: Mel
N3: SoFlo
N5: Coop
N6: Lyra

So yeah, I'm not a convert nor an original wolf.
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Why did you skip a night, and why did you only move them to the out of bounds area? Just because it was only Lyra down there? This seems weird, cuz what good would it do to end their pms? Lyra did you have PMs with the people that were moved down there? I'm not ready to call jboo a wolf yet but I'm just wondering if Lyra and jboo were wolves trying to talk to as many people as possible in pm? Is that a reasonable theory?
 
StayingPositive2017 said:
She says she doesn't get to pick who she targets so it would be hard for her not to hit un-intended targets...
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I'm not intending to target anybody, I'm just trying to make the restrictions fun without limiting anyone's ability to discuss things. In past games, people have had to post in only pictures/gifs, post in French, post like they were drunk, etc. If I were a wolf, I'd be giving out annoying stuff like that, and wouldn't have claimed credit for giving out the restrictions.

StayingPositive2017 said:
Why did you skip a night, and why did you only move them to the out of bounds area? Just because it was only Lyra down there? This seems weird, cuz what good would it do to end their pms? Lyra did you have PMs with the people that were moved down there? I'm not ready to call jboo a wolf yet but I'm just wondering if Lyra and jboo were wolves trying to talk to as many people as possible in pm? Is that a reasonable theory?
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I had a couple PM's with Mel that were already discussed on thread. Gryff never PM'd me. Coop did once last night and I responded. I haven't had extensive conversations with anybody. Your theories are way off base, and not making me likely to change my vote.
 
@Coopah, I've been moved so I can't PM you back, but here's my role description if you missed me posting it earlier: "Welcome to Canada! Bienvenue au Canada! There are three bridges and a tunnel that provide passage from Michigan to Canada. If you've never been there, you should know that it's just like the US but politer. Each night you can come up with a post restriction and it will be delivered to a random player."
 
StayingPositive2017 said:
Why did you skip a night, and why did you only move them to the out of bounds area? Just because it was only Lyra down there? This seems weird, cuz what good would it do to end their pms? Lyra did you have PMs with the people that were moved down there? I'm not ready to call jboo a wolf yet but I'm just wondering if Lyra and jboo were wolves trying to talk to as many people as possible in pm? Is that a reasonable theory?
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I skipped N5 bc that was right after we got Mel and I was like, "Cool, we got a wolf, I'm going to bed." Totally forgot about my night ability that night.

I moved people to out of service bc Lyra was alone and I wanted to make sure she at least had 1 PM partner. I was hoping that if Lyra was a wolf, the new PM partner might catch onto some inconsistencies; or if the other people she was with was a wolf, Lyra might trip them up. That may have been a naïve plan on my part.

I moved Lyra last night because I put her in the "mildly sketchy" category and also my moving people to her wasn't helping, so I tried a different approach.
 
mmmdreamerz said:
Though arguably with the rezzes, we know when they were converted (somewhere between death and re-birth lol😉). That said, agreed that you get more info from originals...potentially even where to look for converts.
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Agree. However, I think that you should vote for whomever you think is the most wolfy at that time, and not avoid people you think are acting weird just because you don't think they are an original.
vetmedhead said:
By the way, this is only vaguely related to the current discussion but something I've been thinking about since we keep bringing up convert hunting - who was it that posted about using that one item to ask mods questions who asked how many non-wolf non-villager players there were in the game? I've been wondering about it because that's a question that's useful for wolves to know but has plausible usefulness to village. Can see a wolf being given that item asking a question like that since it has utility for their team without making them seem outright scummy when they shared the question and answer on thread.
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Pip answered it was Snowy and then combined with below would probably have me voting Snowy except Snowy is now a dead confirmed villager....
SnowshoeDog143 said:
🙂 Haven't read through the thread yet from when I was last on, just responding to this



I think I get what you are saying.:bored: Yes I thought (and still think most likely) the redirector is village based on you being killed and redirected the same night. Now explain why the wolves would redirect and kill you the same night if mel is village and redirector is wolf?? Thats just a waste of a redirection ability for the wolves. 😛
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Yup do not agree at all lol. Hopefully with Pip and Staff flipping village we can all agree on this point now.
SnowshoeDog143 said:
I don't think this theory makes sense at all. Too many factors. Too much tin foil hat going on.. it's probably much simplier then that.



I just don't believe mel is an original. His role claim is sketch because it's not in michigan, but a pretty big claim for a wolf to make up (you would have to guess not all the great lake roles would be included in this game) and a weird made up claim because of it's location. Much safer to choose a smaller town/place/thing in michigan that probably wouldn't be in the game.



I have the handmap now and haven't asked a question. Is anyone alive who we know is an out of service group? Lyra maybe?
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Little late, but if anyone wants to test the map out on me feel free. My role is much like Kara and whoever else role revealed flora and fauna, so I should either show up "everywhere" or "nowhere" depending on how mods choose to interpret.

kcoughli said:
I was complaining to the mods about how I prefer being wolf killed to being mislynched. It was in our PM window because that's where I'd last interacted with a mod so didn't have the right window open.

I didn't "miss a noose." Thinking someone who was rezed lost their powers after death is not special or secret information, especially when you have slightly more information about rezzes than the average player. Coming back sans powers is fairly common, and with two rezzes vs just one in the game it's even more likely to be a power losing resurrection.

I'm not sure why I'm arguing with you, but suffice it to say this interaction has me wondering about the unseerable wolf theory.

Sent from my phone using the mobile app because I bought it and I'm stubborn
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Quite a few of the games I've played have had people rez with powers, don't know why you would make that assumption.

cowgirl92 said:
I'm not sure what to think. I'm not sure about Mel. I just went and reread lots of posts and I'm not sure about Paws. There are lots of people I just don't feel like I have much of a read on at all. I'm going to
Lynch Gryff
tonight because the activity there has been so all over the board and frankly rather suspicious.
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I forgot you were playing until I read this.

PippyPony said:
I'm catching it dude, but I also have 2 seer results and some early game reads that say he's not wolfy, soooooo
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This Pip/Mel interaction makes Pip read village. Annndddd now she's dead and confirmed village so that comment is useless.

LyraGardenia said:
I feel like @WildZoo this game, everyone should just vote the opposite of whatever I say. :bored:
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Yeah your voting record is pretty bad. 😛

finnickthedog said:
The tour guides were a little sad about a certain ability never being used. But you just stop can't that Motown sound as you will see in through this write up.

Remember earlier in the tour when the village wanted to throw Allie off the bus for being a Lake that didn't share enough border with Michigan? They seemed to have forgotten that there was one lake that didn't share a border with Michigan at all. The small lake. The wolf lake.

Dead is @Melchizedek - Lake Ontario, the only Great Lake that doesn't touch Michigan and a wolf who was unseerable



BUT that's not all...

You see those warnings the mods sent out? They were serious business.

And so dead by mod kill is @staff_wielder - Motown, a villager who could include messages in the morning write up if, and only if, they had submitted a Motown song to be played the previous day.




Also dead by mod kill is @SoFloGryffindor - Presque Isle Park, a vanillager




It is now Night 5. 17 players remain. Night deadline is 1 am EST.

Upper Peninsula “The Yoopers”
4. @MixedAnimals77
6. @Coopah
7. @mmmdreamerz
9. @vetmedhead
10. @johnnaboo

Mackinac Bridge “Mighty Mac”
11. @DVMDream
13. @PippyPony
14. @cowgirl92
16. @SportPonies

Lower Peninsula “The Trolls”
18. @Jilary
19. @Animal Midwife
21. @katashark
23. @SnowshoeDog143
24. @kcoughli
26. @TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo
27. @StayingPositive2017

Out of Service
28. @LyraGardenia

Hell, Michigan
17. greeneyegal92 - Buckeyes
22. allieh8607 - Lake Erie
5. Teepster87 - The Henry Ford
8. dyachei - Construction
15. Crayola227 - Bronner's Christmas Wonderland
1. genny - Tart Cherry
2. fromthebox - Lake Superior
20. Karabiner13 - American Robin
12. Melchizedek - Lake Ontario
25. staff_wielder - Motown
3. SoFloGryffindor - Presque Isle Park
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Thank you for mod killing and ending my spiral of tunneling, lol.

Animal Midwife said:
I'm sorry. I didn't want it to be true.

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I find this response sketchy as all getout.

StayingPositive2017 said:
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Contingency Lynch am
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I told you those two goofballs were noobs and loved your soft vouches for mel
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I have no idea what you are trying to say.

Animal Midwife said:
I guess my like was missed. There is no protector.
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No idea how she was so confident in this (I also suspect we don't have one, but I'm not going to come out and say I know we don't). I guess we can't really ask her anymore either.

johnnaboo said:
I mean yeah probably. I’ll quickly learn the repercussions of this. Also revealed bc I didn’t want AM’s last post damning me. But also...



My role reveal was purposeful bc I wanted to show you guys that I'm village. My role is not a PR (I don't think) so imo it's not a huge loss to reveal this about myself. But we'll see. I am still a noob, so this may be shooting myself in the foot. Idk

Every night except 1, I've moved people around the board who I thought were mildly sketchy to hopefully isolate them and make them slip up.

N1: Allie
N2: Mel
N3: SoFlo
N5: Coop
N6: Lyra

So yeah, I'm not a convert nor an original wolf.
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I think you role revealing was a very bad move for village, and with how smart you've been playing I would say almost sloppy-wolf bad. Depending on who dies tonight I may lynch you tomorrow.
 
Lynch Lyra
For the reason I gave yesterday. I haven't seen anything today to make me change my vote.

Edit because oops, almost forgot: Ray’s friends claim he’s a baseball nut. He says they’re way off base.
 
Who made the comment about there not being protectors? I want to lynch them for multiple reasons.


Had to edit because of the wrong "there" drives me nuts otherwise.
 
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The Dead's Day 7 Lynch Tally
Paws (4) - Sporty, kata, Lyra, jboo
DVMD () -
jboo (1) - Coop
Lyra (3) - Mixy, kc, cowgirl
vmh (1) - Jil
SP (1) - DVMD

10/14
lynch close in 3.5 hours
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I still am inclined to think that because Canada is not Michigan, Michigan would not look favorably upon it. I wanted to lynch her yesterday...

Lynch Lyra
 
I am less inclined on this Lyra Lynch, so for now I am more inclined to

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Lynch Cowgirl
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After isoing, more of her comments make me think twice about her. Nervous about dvmd but can see kata for lying low.
 
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