There's a WW in Michigan Game Thread

[Coopah]

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Lol so you all just hop on me then peace out, so I feel justified requesting shock and awe reactions from each of you who thought I was a wolf when you see the results 😀

 

[TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo]

Contingency lynch Coop

I have good reason to believe Paws interacted with Coop last night.

Somehow missed this last night. I find it very odd that a wolf would be using an action on another wolf, unless they were planning to bus them. Do you know if this included PMing, or simply was only role/item-related action?

Just wanted to say: mods, great ability for that role. Bravo, I like it.

we should be looking for our convert, then. I can't imagine there's another original left on top of that.

Still think BBC is a good option, but definitely gotta read through some stuff from the past day or so.

I mean, theoretically I agree that I'd be a good convert option, but I think anyone who has played with me before would probably avoid it lol.

Here is the copy/paste of what I asked:
Can I ask how many wolves are left?

And I asked N1 but didn’t post until D3. Sorry, I didn’t mean to keep information but I had no idea what I was doing and I wasn’t sure what I could tell who or the best way to handle things. Crayola was helping me with stuff, but it took her awhile to get back to me at that point.

Major red flag; there is no reason why you should have withheld that knowledge, or not stated that it was from N1 when you first shared it.

Do you mean that I was wisked away on a ferry and couldn't pm? Because that's the only notification I got. Also it means I couldn't pm not do an action. Good setup though. Besides the fact that paws was looking to redirect me and the fact all of you have just fallen in line. We'll not much I can say about a bandwagon except wow that was fast. Kinda wish I could troll you guys and say I was a wolf 😛 unfortunately still a villager. I can't even role reveal because you think I'm a convert. With what finn said last night my theory is either wolves were absent and didn't get a kill in or whoever is the protector (of there is one) did a good job.

We'll I'll try to come back on later but for now

Lynch cowgirl

Coop, have you revealed your ability yet?

 

[DVMDream]

Maybe I'll eat my own words, already did with dy, but I think something else is at play here. Many other reasons for there to not be a kill besides just the block. And a number of people on here know this and it is incredibly concerning that nobody is discussing other possibilities.

I think I put in a contingency last night, I'm not going to change it at this point.

 

[cowgirl92]

Major red flag; there is no reason why you should have withheld that knowledge, or not stated that it was from N1 when you first shared it.

I knew someone would say this. I just want to point out that I didn’t have to admit it, no one would have ever known if I just said I got it the night before I posted it, but I did in the interests of getting the best info. And if I had it to do over again I would put it up right away, but I had no clue what I was doing, plus I was trying to figure out how to deal with Pippy dying and saying to lynch Mel.

 

[TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo]

I knew someone would say this. I just want to point out that I didn’t have to admit it, no one would have ever known if I just said I got it the night before I posted it, but I did in the interests of getting the best info. And if I had it to do over again I would put it up right away, but I had no clue what I was doing, plus I was trying to figure out how to deal with Pippy dying and saying to lynch Mel.

Yeah, except then in the last few days people have been talking about figuring out who has had what on what night and what they did with it. You would have been caught in a lie. My concerns are that you didn't admit it until after that all was discussed.

 

[Coopah]

Somehow missed this last night. I find it very odd that a wolf would be using an action on another wolf, unless they were planning to bus them. Do you know if this included PMing, or simply was only role/item-related action?


I mean, theoretically I agree that I'd be a good convert option, but I think anyone who has played with me before would probably avoid it lol.


Major red flag; there is no reason why you should have withheld that knowledge, or not stated that it was from N1 when you first shared it.


Coop, have you revealed your ability yet?

I don't have one

 

[TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo]

I don't have one

Not unlynching you at this point, but:

Could she have not been made aware of a block because she had no ability in the first place? Lyra has admitted to having an ability so it would make sense that she was told she couldn't use it. DVMD, did you say you were able to use your item perfectly fine?

Coop, did you have an item/do any actions at all last night?

 

[cowgirl92]

Yeah, except then in the last few days people have been talking about figuring out who has had what on what night and what they did with it. You would have been caught in a lie. My concerns are that you didn't admit it until after that all was discussed.

If you look back, I’ve been saying N1 for a long time. I didn’t even think to specify it on the first post, or I would have. I can understand why it would be somewhat of a red flag, don’t get me wrong. I just wanted to explain myself a little bit.

 

[cowgirl92]

Not unlynching you at this point, but:

Could she have not been made aware of a block because she had no ability in the first place? Lyra has admitted to having an ability so it would make sense that she was told she couldn't use it. DVMD, did you say you were able to use your item perfectly fine?

Coop, did you have an item/do any actions at all last night?

I asked something along these lines earlier and I’d like to understand this better too.

 

[Coopah]

"Oh, I was supposed to tell you not to respond to any PMs for the night cycle. My bad getting this out to you kinda late. "
"Well I didn't anyways. Is it sad I saw this and got excited that maybe I was dead? I hate this part lol"
"You find yourself whisked away on a ferry. You spend your time eating fudge but you were too far away from the other players for any form of communication."
This was the only notification I got I had no item no nothing last night

 

[LyraGardenia]

Maybe I'll eat my own words, already did with dy, but I think something else is at play here. Many other reasons for there to not be a kill besides just the block. And a number of people on here know this and it is incredibly concerning that nobody is discussing other possibilities.

I think I put in a contingency last night, I'm not going to change it at this point.

The main things I can think of for other possibilities are conversion, which already happened, or successful protection, and I thought we had come to the conclusion there's probably no protector this game? Unless the wolves decided to just lay low and not kill anyone, if that's even an option.

 

[finnickthedog]

This was the only notification I got I had no item no nothing last night

Can you edit your post? It was mostly intended for roles but rules state no direct quotes of mod PMs. You can copy/paste to your heart's content, just not have it in quote format.

 

[cowgirl92]

The main things I can think of for other possibilities are conversion, which already happened, or successful protection, and I thought we had come to the conclusion there's probably no protector this game? Unless the wolves decided to just lay low and not kill anyone, if that's even an option.

Is there for sure only one conversion? How can we know that?

 

[Coopah]

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Oops sorry fixed

 

[Karabiner13]

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Also nice call AM and Karabou

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[Coopah]

For anyone whos interested, my role is the state flower. "The apple blossom (specifically Pyrus coronaria) is native to Michigan and in 1897, was chosen by legislators to be Michigan's state flower. From the legislation: "Our blossoming apple trees add much to the beauty of our landscape, and Michigan apples have gained a worldwide reputation. At least one of the most fragrant and beautiful species of apple, the Pyrus coronaria, is native to our state. Michigan has been one of the leading producers of apples and apple products since those early days."

 

[finnickthedog]

If there is a lack of discussion, I may close early. Just letting all know.

 

[Coopah]

If there is a lack of discussion, I may close early. Just letting all know.

Go for it I'm tired.

 

[mmmdreamerz]

Unlynch coop

 

[mmmdreamerz]

I'm starting to feel a little unsure about the Coop lynch...based on her killing dy she'd probably have to be the convert (day kill of a wolf killing a wolf seems like a bad move). And her being the convert doesn't fit with cowgirls ask a mod timeline, right?

 

[Animal Midwife]

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The Dead's Day 8 Lynch Tally
Jil (1) - DVMD
Coop (9) - jboo, kata, Fern, Lyra, cowgirl, Sporty, Jil, kc, Mixy
cowgirl () -
jboo (1) - Coop

11/13
lynch close in 3 hours
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[DVMDream]

Not unlynching you at this point, but:

Could she have not been made aware of a block because she had no ability in the first place? Lyra has admitted to having an ability so it would make sense that she was told she couldn't use it. DVMD, did you say you were able to use your item perfectly fine?

Coop, did you have an item/do any actions at all last night?

I was able to use my item without any issues.

 

[LyraGardenia]

Is there for sure only one conversion? How can we know that?

We don't know for sure, but I think two conversions is pretty unusual. Especially if we started with 5 wolves, that would make the game rather skewed.

For anyone whos interested, my role is the state flower. "The apple blossom (specifically Pyrus coronaria) is native to Michigan and in 1897, was chosen by legislators to be Michigan's state flower. From the legislation: "Our blossoming apple trees add much to the beauty of our landscape, and Michigan apples have gained a worldwide reputation. At least one of the most fragrant and beautiful species of apple, the Pyrus coronaria, is native to our state. Michigan has been one of the leading producers of apples and apple products since those early days."

This role description looks awfully long to me...

 

[KCgophervet]

I'm starting to feel a little unsure about the Coop lynch...based on her killing dy she'd probably have to be the convert (day kill of a wolf killing a wolf seems like a bad move). And her being the convert doesn't fit with cowgirls ask a mod timeline, right?

From my understanding it was DVMD who asked about a convert. Coop being converted doesn't really impact cowgirls asking of wolf numbers.

Granted if she didn't specify living wolves then perhaps mods included dead greeny in the count?

Guys, we could be wrong on Coop, but it's the same as with Dy. The simplest explanation for a no kill night is either protected target or blocked wolf. Have to use the info.

Sent from my phone using the mobile app because I bought it and I'm stubborn

 

[DVMDream]

The main things I can think of for other possibilities are conversion, which already happened, or successful protection, and I thought we had come to the conclusion there's probably no protector this game? Unless the wolves decided to just lay low and not kill anyone, if that's even an option.

Wolves can do whatever they want.

Also don't forget about the dead. Some mods allow them to have random acts or effects on the game. Possible for a protection from there or a block or whatever.

 

[DVMDream]

From my understanding it was DVMD who asked about a convert. Coop being converted doesn't really impact cowgirls asking of wolf numbers.

Granted if she didn't specify living wolves then perhaps mods included dead greeny in the count?

Guys, we could be wrong on Coop, but it's the same as with Dy. The simplest explanation for a no kill night is either protected target or blocked wolf. Have to use the info.

Sent from my phone using the mobile app because I bought it and I'm stubborn

I don't care about using the info. I'm just thoroughly shocked by the lackadaisical lack of discussion especially with you and jilary around. You both know there could be other explanations, the fact neither of you tried to discuss those is bizarre. It is bizarre I'm the only one going....hold it guys, we should check out this info for sure, but don't be blind faithing this. Oh and I'm super weirded out by johnaboo currently.

The only thing paws could have done was redirect coop. Unless he thinks paws converted coop night before last in which we'd have 2 converts then....it just doesn't add up. And almost smells like an intentional set up.

 

[Coopah]

We don't know for sure, but I think two conversions is pretty unusual. Especially if we started with 5 wolves, that would make the game rather skewed.


This role description looks awfully long to me...

Lol remember about the villager code. That's mine, just cause others are short doesn't mean mine isn't long. Remember we lynched someone because we thought their description was too short? At least dvmd and I did. Then Mel shouted that we shouldn't lynch her and we did anyways. First victim of villager code. Lynch me or don't, use the info or don't.

 

[mmmdreamerz]

So we've been basing our thought process on the number of wolves/conversions on info from cowgirl, but have we considered that maybe it's not good info? Just throwing that out there...

 

[Coopah]

I don't care about using the info. I'm just thoroughly shocked by the lackadaisical lack of discussion especially with you and jilary around. You both know there could be other explanations, the fact neither of you tried to discuss those is bizarre. It is bizarre I'm the only one going....hold it guys, we should check out this info for sure, but don't be blind faithing this. Oh and I'm super weirded out by johnaboo currently.

The only thing paws could have done was redirect coop. Unless he thinks paws converted coop night before last in which we'd have 2 converts then....it just doesn't add up. And almost smells like an intentional set up.

You got something there don't you? Lol at least I know who playing this game well.

 

[TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo]

Wolves can do whatever they want.

Also don't forget about the dead. Some mods allow them to have random acts or effects on the game. Possible for a protection from there or a block or whatever.

I think if there was post-death abilities Mixed/Pip would have mentioned it after being resurrected.

 

[mmmdreamerz]

Jboo and cowgirl

Feeling very unsure about them at the current moment

 

[KCgophervet]

I don't care about using the info. I'm just thoroughly shocked by the lackadaisical lack of discussion especially with you and jilary around. You both know there could be other explanations, the fact neither of you tried to discuss those is bizarre. It is bizarre I'm the only one going....hold it guys, we should check out this info for sure, but don't be blind faithing this. Oh and I'm super weirded out by johnaboo currently.

The only thing paws could have done was redirect coop. Unless he thinks paws converted coop night before last in which we'd have 2 converts then....it just doesn't add up. And almost smells like an intentional set up.

I'm not discounting the possibilities, I'm just not going to go gung ho into discussing them. I also worked today and it's a holiday weekend and we have family coming so my participation is a bit less than at the moment.

Discussing other possibilities is how I talk myself out of getting lynched when I'm a wolf who's been caught red handed so that's another reason I'm less inclined to do so.

Sent from my phone using the mobile app because I bought it and I'm stubborn

 

[DVMDream]

I think if there was post-death abilities Mixed/Pip would have mentioned it after being resurrected.

Mods didn't start up a dead chat last game until like day 9/night 9.

 

[cowgirl92]

So we've been basing our thought process on the number of wolves/conversions on info from cowgirl, but have we considered that maybe it's not good info? Just throwing that out there...

Not just me.

Nope there's two more; I asked the travel guide last night.

I tried to ask if the remaining wolf/ves were in or a part of Michigan first, but the mods vetoed it.

Edit for typo

Edit edit to lynch coop

 

[TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo]

Mods didn't start up a dead chat last game until like day 9/night 9.

Dead chat is different than dead role. Role should have been in place from D1, since it is a major part of the game. If dead have a role only during part of the game, I have only ever seen it be the beginning.

 

[DVMDream]

Dead chat is different than dead role. Role should have been in place from D1, since it is a major part of the game. If dead have a role only during part of the game, I have only ever seen it be the beginning.

No, I'm telling you they didn't set up any of it until that late last game. Trust me, I was the first player dead.

 

[Coopah]

Possible converts:
Mixy rezzed convert?
BBC for villager reads

Wolfy order from most to least first two are basically tied:
Cowgirl
Johnnyboo
KC possibly convert
Lyra for Canada

 

[mmmdreamerz]

I was totally wrong with my lack of strong feels for Paws, so this could be totally off too, but I just feel like there's too many inconsistencies to ignore at this point and they're making me feel a little uneasy about his lynch...

Lynch jboo

 

[jaboo]

too many inconsistencies

Mind pointing out ones in particular?

ETA: Winter is a season

 

[MixedAnimals77]

I think if there was post-death abilities Mixed/Pip would have mentioned it after being resurrected.

Yeah I'm powerless. Pip had a damaged ability.

Possible converts:
Mixy rezzed convert?
BBC for villager reads

Wolfy order from most to least first two are basically tied:
Cowgirl
Johnnyboo
KC possibly convert
Lyra for Canada

Coop says they're always shady in pm, now she's casting shade on the noob(aka me but that's OK ) but doesn't have me on order of possible wolves. If coop is wolf them definitely a convert I believe.

 

[Coopah]

Yeah I'm powerless. Pip had a damaged ability.Coop says they're always shady in pm, now she's casting shade on the noob(aka me but that's OK ) but doesn't have me on order of possible wolves. If coop is wolf them definitely a convert I believe.

Nah its just a divided up between original and converts.

 

[Coopah]

ETA: Winter is a season

Not helpful but this is halarious

 

[jaboo]

I don't care about using the info. I'm just thoroughly shocked by the lackadaisical lack of discussion especially with you and jilary around. You both know there could be other explanations, the fact neither of you tried to discuss those is bizarre. It is bizarre I'm the only one going....hold it guys, we should check out this info for sure, but don't be blind faithing this. Oh and I'm super weirded out by johnaboo currently.

The only thing paws could have done was redirect coop. Unless he thinks paws converted coop night before last in which we'd have 2 converts then....it just doesn't add up. And almost smells like an intentional set up.

You got something there don't you? Lol at least I know who playing this game well.

Could you think of any reason why I might want to not reveal where I got this info from? Any reason at all?

Glad everyone now thinks I'm an evil mastermind now. Yesterday everyone told me I was a bad player for role revealing to hopefully gain some trust. Today I'm apparently a pro at this game. 😕😕😕

ETA: I suck at this restriction. The Abominable Snowman is real. Save yourselves.

 

[Coopah]

Could you think of any reason why I might want to not reveal where I got this info from? Any reason at all?

Glad everyone now thinks I'm an evil mastermind now. Yesterday everyone told me I was a bad player for role revealing to hopefully gain some trust. Today I'm apparently a pro at this game. 😕😕😕

ETA: I suck at this restriction. The Abominable Snowman is real. Save yourselves.

Or do you now have helpful a dive from a wolf pack member lol. Also you've been sketchy for a while now, this isn't new.

 

[DVMDream]

Could you think of any reason why I might want to not reveal where I got this info from? Any reason at all?

Glad everyone now thinks I'm an evil mastermind now. Yesterday everyone told me I was a bad player for role revealing to hopefully gain some trust. Today I'm apparently a pro at this game. 😕😕😕

ETA: I suck at this restriction. The Abominable Snowman is real. Save yourselves.

No one is asking where you got the info just that it does not add up. How are you missing that??? Paws interacted with coop....but no one knows in what way. Paws redirects players, we know this. So you are basically saying paws redirected coop....how does that make coop wolfy? Unless paws converted coop in which case, just ****ing say so, and if that occurred we have two converts.

 

[jaboo]

Unless paws converted coop in which case, just ****ing say so

I have no info on that, just the interacting between the two. I lynched based on that alone (bc it worked for the dy situation), but then with someone claiming Coop was blocked, I feel there is sufficient weirdness there now.

 

[katashark]

No one is asking where you got the info just that it does not add up. How are you missing that??? Paws interacted with coop....but no one knows in what way. Paws redirects players, we know this. So you are basically saying paws redirected coop....how does that make coop wolfy? Unless paws converted coop in which case, just ****ing say so, and if that occurred we have two converts.

If paws redirected coop, but coop claims no ability, how does that work?

 

[DVMDream]

If paws redirected coop, but coop claims no ability, how does that work?

Nothing happens.

 

[katashark]

Nothing happens.

I guess I was asking how jboo would even see anything if nothing happens? Idk lol. I'm not being clear.

 

[DVMDream]

I have no info on that, just the interacting between the two. I lynched based on that alone (bc it worked for the dy situation), but then with someone claiming Coop was blocked, I feel there is sufficient weirdness there now.

But an interaction isn't wolfy, that's my point. Paws used that same ability and "interacted" with pippy multiple times based on her being redirected multiple times, so it is ****ing stupid to lynch off paws interacting and if coop isn't a wolf makes you look wolfy af.