What Are My Chances: WAMC Podiatry

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So I just got my scores back from my MCAT and I recieved a 20 (7/6/7) 👎 I do have a strong GPA though of a 3.6. I also have really good LOR and more than a lot of EC like volunteering and leadership experience. I am also Native American (I am not sure if this helps?) and I know there aren't many of them in podiatry schools. I'm shooting for Temple or SUNY. Do you think I have a shot? I cannot really afford to retake my MCAT 🙁
 
Great chances.

If I were in your situation I would apply to those two schools and retake the MCAT if they asked me to.
 
Thank you for replying so quickly! I am unsure what you mean by "if they asked me to." Would schools ask you to retake the MCAT or just deny you?
 
morgb said:
So I just got my scores back from my MCAT and I recieved a 20 (7/6/7) 👎 I do have a strong GPA though of a 3.6. I also have really good LOR and more than a lot of EC like volunteering and leadership experience. I am also Native American (I am not sure if this helps?) and I know there aren't many of them in podiatry schools. I'm shooting for Temple or SUNY. Do you think I have a shot? I cannot really afford to retake my MCAT 🙁
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There isn't a SUNY school just so you know. It's NYCPM and they are private.

What is your science GPA?

Overall, a MCAT of 20 isn't going to hurt you, especially since it's not like you got a really bad score on one section such as a 8/4/8. Your score is pretty much what the average is.

As far as the Native American thing, it certainly can help. I don't think it will help as much as if you were applying to MD.

If you apply right when the cycle starts, you will get into pretty much all the schools.
 
morgb said:
Thank you for replying so quickly! I am unsure what you mean by "if they asked me to." Would schools ask you to retake the MCAT or just deny you?
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I have never heard of any pod school that will tell you to retake the mcat. What schools will do is give you a conditional acceptance if you retake a class. For example: You got into Pod school in the fall before your classes are over. You ended up with a D in Orgo I, even though you were accepted already before the fall grades came out, they could say "hey, you need to retake Orgo I, either in the spring semester or that summer and get a C or higher grade. Otherwise, we will take back the acceptance"

But like I said, that is VERY unlikely. Most schools will just accept you or deny you.
 
jonod1107 said:
There isn't a SUNY school just so you know. It's NYCPM and they are private.

What is your science GPA?

Overall, a MCAT of 20 isn't going to hurt you, especially since it's not like you got a really bad score on one section such as a 8/4/8. Your score is pretty much what the average is.

As far as the Native American thing, it certainly can help. I don't think it will help as much as if you were applying to MD.

If you apply right when the cycle starts, you will get into pretty much all the schools.
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Thank you for your help! My sGPA is a 3.6 also.
 
SLCpod said:
DMU asked for me to retake the MCAT.
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Did you apply with an MCAT score or was the score not out yet before you interviewed there? Also, did you do their pre-pod summer program thing?
 
jonod1107 said:
Did you apply with an MCAT score or was the score not out yet before you interviewed there? Also, did you do their pre-pod summer program thing?
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I applied with having taken the MCAT. I was told that I would be given an interview if I raised my score.

I didn't do the summer program.
 
SLCpod said:
I applied with having taken the MCAT. I was told that I would be given an interview if I raised my score.

I didn't do the summer program.
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Ok that makes sense, I was talking about how no school will tell an applicant they are in if they retake the MCAT and get a certain score. Yes, all schools will tell you why you didn't get an interview and what the big weakness in your application was.
 
So I've been reading some of these posts and in a (most likely futile) attempt to provide clarity/ease fears, here are some personal observations after 2 years of school and some work in the admissions office.

Disclaimer: Opinions are my own and not endorsed by KSUCPM in any way.

-If you have a GPA, especially sGPA, above 3.0, you are good
-if you have an MCAT above 25 you are good
-if you have one of the above, but not the other, take your GPA times 10 and add it to your MCAT. If that number is above 52 and your sGPA is above 2.7 and your MCAT is above 22, you are probably good to be interviewed just make sure you kill that interview.
-If you have neither 3.0 nor 25, the 52 rule is still probably a decent predictor, still.

Cold Hard Facts (ESPN/Coors lawsuit probably pending):

-If your sGPA is below 2.7, it will be EXTREMELY hard for you to handle the curriculum at ANY school of ANY kind of medicine. Not impossible, but you will have to work your tail off in a way you never have before.
-If your MCAT is below 22, you will probably have trouble passing boards. Also, cannot speak for other schools but MCAT 22 is the stated minimum for Kent (can't speak to exceptions you may know/have heard from friends of friends of friends).
-If you have done a ton of research/EC's in undergrad, that is great and admissions people love to see it and you should do them BUT, GPA and MCAT are decent enough predictors of med school success and if you're scoring low on MCAT's and getting more C's than anything else, you need to really be honest with yourself and think if you're going to be able to handle a 20+ credit hour/semester all science curriculum.

That said, good luck to everyone starting at every school in August and to those applying for c/o 2018!
 
My undergrad cGPA was 3.5 and sGPA was 3.4
I have clinical volunteer experience and a 28 on the MCAT which I will be retaking. Letters will also be very good.

However I started a postbacc and got a B and B- one semester and an F and C- the next. I can explain it in an interview, but and I completely SOL? Am I absolutely required to submit graduate grades? Thanks.
 
KSUCPM2015 said:
So I've been reading some of these posts and in a (most likely futile) attempt to provide clarity/ease fears, here are some personal observations after 2 years of school and some work in the admissions office.

Disclaimer: Opinions are my own and not endorsed by KSUCPM in any way.

-If you have a GPA, especially sGPA, above 3.0, you are good
-if you have an MCAT above 25 you are good
-if you have one of the above, but not the other, take your GPA times 10 and add it to your MCAT. If that number is above 52 and your sGPA is above 2.7 and your MCAT is above 22, you are probably good to be interviewed just make sure you kill that interview.
-If you have neither 3.0 nor 25, the 52 rule is still probably a decent predictor, still.

Cold Hard Facts (ESPN/Coors lawsuit probably pending):

-If your sGPA is below 2.7, it will be EXTREMELY hard for you to handle the curriculum at ANY school of ANY kind of medicine. Not impossible, but you will have to work your tail off in a way you never have before.
-If your MCAT is below 22, you will probably have trouble passing boards. Also, cannot speak for other schools but MCAT 22 is the stated minimum for Kent (can't speak to exceptions you may know/have heard from friends of friends of friends).
-If you have done a ton of research/EC's in undergrad, that is great and admissions people love to see it and you should do them BUT, GPA and MCAT are decent enough predictors of med school success and if you're scoring low on MCAT's and getting more C's than anything else, you need to really be honest with yourself and think if you're going to be able to handle a 20+ credit hour/semester all science curriculum.

That said, good luck to everyone starting at every school in August and to those applying for c/o 2018!
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What if you retake pre reqs and get Bs or higher in them?
 
Xhillin said:
My undergrad cGPA was 3.5 and sGPA was 3.4
I have clinical volunteer experience and a 28 on the MCAT which I will be retaking. Letters will also be very good.

However I started a postbacc and got a B and B- one semester and an F and C- the next. I can explain it in an interview, but and I completely SOL? Am I absolutely required to submit graduate grades? Thanks.
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Yes you should submit grad class courses. Now is this post bac a degree changer post bac for people who were not premed or was this a enhancer post bac for people who took all the premed classes already? Basically what did you get the c and f in?
 
Hey guys, wondering what my chances are of acceptance at any podiatry school. I have a 24 MCAT score, with a 2.90 cGPA and a sGPA of 2.89. I have volunteer experience in a hospital and also leading a small class of immigrants, helping them learn the English language. I don't have experience shadowing a Podiatrist yet, but I plan to do that this summer. Thanks so much! 🙂
 
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New to SDN here. WAMC?

I really want to go to KSUCPM because I do not want to move away from my wife/family.

MCAT: 23

PS:8
VR:6
BS:9

GPA: 3.7

Attended their pre-professional internship as well....have done miscellaneous volunteering in the healthcare field too.

Will apply as soon as app opens in August.
 
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timalina said:
Hey guys, wondering what my chances are of acceptance at any podiatry school. I have a 24 MCAT score, with a 2.90 cGPA and a sGPA of 2.89. I have volunteer experience in a hospital and also leading a small class of immigrants, helping them learn the English language. I don't have experience shadowing a Podiatrist yet, but I plan to do that this summer. Thanks so much! 🙂
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You have a pretty good chance. Aim for a school with a large class size.
 
teracky said:
So browsing this thread, looks like my stats are pretty average for applying?
cgpa 3.5
sgpa 3.3
mcat 26
lots of clinical hours, research, etc.
Have not shadowed pod yet, i have one scheduled for mid july. also have not asked my prof for letter of rec.

Question is: do I take a gap year to get LOR and more shadowing? i just got a part time job as a biller in a doctor's office , and more volunteering will keep me busy. Or do I try to apply this cycle? (i'm not really sure about the timeline for applying, august is open? and it is rolling, but when would be acceptable cut off month to get app in?)

Thanks
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Your stats certainly meet the standards for all schools.

If I were in your shoes I would call a pod or two and shadow them a few times and ask for a LOR. Don't wait a year. You could have your app in by August. The sooner you apply the more scholarship money is available.
 
KSUCPMhopeful14 said:
New to SDN here. WAMC?

I really want to go to KSUCPM because I do not want to move away from my wife/family.

MCAT: 23

PS:8
VR:6
BS:9

GPA: 3.7

Attended their pre-professional internship as well....have done miscellaneous volunteering in the healthcare field too.

Will apply as soon as app opens in August.
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You're good.
 
Considering my options, and wondering if I have a chance at Podiatry school. You may have seen this post under the DO "what are my chances", because I am considering going into sports medicine, and realize there are multiple avenues to this.

My stats:
Graduated May 2010 with a BS in Biology
Cumulative GPA: 2.75
Science GPA: 2.85, but with a strong upward trend.

Over the past 4 years I worked 16 hours a week for past 4 years at highly respected academic medical center. In addition, for the past 2 years, I have worked 40 hours at another highly respected academic medical center, affiliated with a university. Worked as a microbiologist in both hospitals.

I worked multiple shifts, had to skip class at times due to work, but I got the job done - 3.8 gpa for 40 credit hours. My postbacc was all science courses, 100 and 200 level, except for one course in statistics, and two psychology courses. I earned A's in Anatomy, Pathology, Pharmacology, Microbiology, etc.

MCAT: 28 (BS 9, PS 9, V 10)
 
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doctosan said:
Considering my options, and wondering if I have a chance at Podiatry school. You may have seen this post under the DO "what are my chances", because I am considering going into sports medicine, and realize there are multiple avenues to this.

My stats:
Graduated May 2010 with a BS in Biology
Cumulative GPA: 2.75
Science GPA: 2.85, but with a strong upward trend.

Over the past 4 years I worked 16 hours a week for past 4 years at highly respected academic medical center. In addition, for the past 2 years, I have worked 40 hours at another highly respected academic medical center, affiliated with a university. Worked as a microbiologist in both hospitals.

I worked multiple shifts, had to skip class at times due to work, but I got the job done - 3.8 gpa for 40 credit hours. My postbacc was all science courses, 100 and 200 level, except for one course in statistics, and two psychology courses. I earned A's in Anatomy, Pathology, Pharmacology, Microbiology, etc.

MCAT: 28 (BS 9, PS 9, V 10)
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It is kind of tricky to give some good advice for you since you have so many variables in your app. Rather than get mixed opinions from us you should really call each school and talk to the admissions reps. However, I think you have a chance at some larger class size schools.
 
SLCpod said:
It is kind of tricky to give some good advice for you since you have so many variables in your app. Rather than get mixed opinions from us you should really call each school and talk to the admissions reps. However, I think you have a chance at some larger class size schools.
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Does AACPMAS do grade replacement?
 
teracky said:
So browsing this thread, looks like my stats are pretty average for applying?
cgpa 3.5
sgpa 3.3
mcat 26
lots of clinical hours, research, etc.
Have not shadowed pod yet, i have one scheduled for mid july. also have not asked my prof for letter of rec.

Question is: do I take a gap year to get LOR and more shadowing? i just got a part time job as a biller in a doctor's office , and more volunteering will keep me busy. Or do I try to apply this cycle? (i'm not really sure about the timeline for applying, august is open? and it is rolling, but when would be acceptable cut off month to get app in?)

Thanks
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Apply this year. You have TONS of time. The majority of applications come around Nov-Jan. (when ppl find out they didn't get into dental or md schools).

Also you don't need insane hours of shadowing to get a rec letter. What is more important than hours is finding out if this really is the field for you.

Do not take a gap year if you are positive pod is for you.
 
doctosan said:
Considering my options, and wondering if I have a chance at Podiatry school. You may have seen this post under the DO "what are my chances", because I am considering going into sports medicine, and realize there are multiple avenues to this.

My stats:
Graduated May 2010 with a BS in Biology
Cumulative GPA: 2.75
Science GPA: 2.85, but with a strong upward trend.

Over the past 4 years I worked 16 hours a week for past 4 years at highly respected academic medical center. In addition, for the past 2 years, I have worked 40 hours at another highly respected academic medical center, affiliated with a university. Worked as a microbiologist in both hospitals.

I worked multiple shifts, had to skip class at times due to work, but I got the job done - 3.8 gpa for 40 credit hours. My postbacc was all science courses, 100 and 200 level, except for one course in statistics, and two psychology courses. I earned A's in Anatomy, Pathology, Pharmacology, Microbiology, etc.

MCAT: 28 (BS 9, PS 9, V 10)
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You are fine. Here is why. Your bad gpa was from 2010. That's 3-4 years ago. You can seriously show that you have matured by your 28 MCAT and 3.8 GPA post bac.


Trust me, you will get in.
Now the important thing is to shadow some pods. Try to shadow at least 2 pods, preferably ones that are younger and more likely to do surgical cases. Aim for 25+ hours.
I say this because the school will see that you applied to other programs (DO) and will question your commitment to Pod. Lots of shadowing will prove to them you are serious.
 
So SLCpod stated that I should be fine with a 3.8 GPA/23 MCAT for KSUCPM. Now I want to focus on increasing my MCAT score even 1-2 points for maximum scholarship consideration. It would probably be a $4,000 to $8,000 increase. That's significant. Can I send my MCAT scores to the application service in August and then submit my new MCAT score in September only if it is better? I do not want them to see the new one if worse. The score report only has MCATs that you have taken.
 
KSUCPMhopeful14 said:
Can I send my MCAT scores to the application service in August and then submit my new MCAT score in September only if it is better?
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Yes. You will most likely need to tell the school that you have a new MCAT score. You will need to call the schools scholarship department and talk to them about it.
 
BS from college of engineering at flagship state school on full academic scholarship. Minors in chemistry and business admin. Fluent in French, English, Spanish.

cgpa 3.4
sgpa 3.0
mcat 22 (waiting for 2nd scores to come in, probably did better by 1 or 2 points)

150 hours of emergency room volunteering at 2 hospitals.
1 week of shadowing in a top tier ortho group.
LOR from 1 Chemistry professor, 1 PreMed Counselor, 1 ortho surgeon (DO), 1 DPM.
1.5 years of student work position in the department of engineering.
4 year fraternity member with 2 officer positions.
National Collegiate Honor Society member.
Dean's list 2013.
Upwards trend in cgpa.

Have been shadowing a pod for the summer. Will continue shadowing until the end of the fall. Expecting roughly 50 hours total.

Willing to apply broadly. Would prefer DMU.

Cons:
C in the 2nd physics lecture
Repeat organic I from C -> A


Thanks in advance for any input!
 
I think you have a solid chance.




benoit75 said:
BS from college of engineering at flagship state school on full academic scholarship. Minors in chemistry and business admin. Fluent in French, English, Spanish.

cgpa 3.4
sgpa 3.0
mcat 22 (waiting for 2nd scores to come in, probably did better by 1 or 2 points)

150 hours of emergency room volunteering at 2 hospitals.
1 week of shadowing in a top tier ortho group.
LOR from 1 Chemistry professor, 1 PreMed Counselor, 1 ortho surgeon (DO), 1 DPM.
1.5 years of student work position in the department of engineering.
4 year fraternity member with 2 officer positions.
National Collegiate Honor Society member.
Dean's list 2013.
Upwards trend in cgpa.

Have been shadowing a pod for the summer. Will continue shadowing until the end of the fall. Expecting roughly 50 hours total.

Willing to apply broadly. Would prefer DMU.

Cons:
C in the 2nd physics lecture
Repeat organic I from C -> A


Thanks in advance for any input!
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benoit75 said:
In general or at DMU?
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At all, especially if you increased your MCAT to a 23-24. You GPA is at or slightly below average for DMU, but not terribly. I think you are entering the field at the right time. Once these 3 year surgical residencies become standardized and we become more recognized as a profession (salaries consequentially increase) then a lot of pre-meds will begin to look at this field that has a minimum of 7 years of training as opposed to 9-10 with MD/DO surgical options. Stats will easily go up to 24-25 and gpa 3.4-3.5 within the next several years. That's speculation on my part.
 
I have been looking into podiatry and have plans to shadow a podiatrist in the near future so I thought I should post my stats and see what my chances are.

White Male
Oklahoma Resident
cGPA: 3.88
sGPA: 3.73
MCAT: 23 (8PS/6VR/9BS)
Clinical Volunteer 70 hours in ER
Shadowing several MD specialist and plans to shadow DPM soon

Chances? Which schools? Thanks!
 
VinceViegel said:
I'm going to be a reapplicant this year. I was accepted into 2 schools last year but I wasn't 100% certain on podiatry, but I am now. I will be applying to different schools than I did last year. Will this hurt me? I have 3.7/3.6/25 mcat.
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Hmm.. I don't know.

Is there anyone else who has done this? I am sure that the schools would be understanding if you told them you wanted to be sure that this profession is the right fit for you.
 
VinceViegel said:
I'm going to be a reapplicant this year. I was accepted into 2 schools last year but I wasn't 100% certain on podiatry, but I am now. I will be applying to different schools than I did last year. Will this hurt me? I have 3.7/3.6/25 mcat.
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You'll be fine. If anything the schools will appreciate you more because you're a lower risk of dropout because you took the extra year to evaluate your life
 
VinceViegel said:
That's good to hear. DMU is my top choice, do you think they'll be fine with it too?
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I feel that if you come in confident that this is what you want to do and you are sure and solid during your interview, you will be fine. Keep active in shadowing to help show you are serious.
 
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I graduated from a top 50 school in May.

cGPA- 3.66
sGPA- 3.43
MCAT- taking in September
Weak ECs- I am trying to find a podiatrist to shadow in the next few months. I enrolled patient in clinical research studies as part of a class. I was the vice-president of my fraternity and vice-president of my junior year dorm. I am also currently enrolled in an EMT class. I hope to get an EMT job/volunteer in September when the class is over.
LOR- My LOR from my major professor (Economics) will be solid. Science LOR will be weak (not that they will say anything negative, but I just don't really know any of my science professors to be honest). As I said, I hope to shadow a podiatrist soon.

I am having a hard time finding a science professor for a LOR. All my classes were big, and to be honest, I never got much out of my classes; I honestly learned more from the books. For this reason, I will only be applying to schools that require a maximum of one science LOR. Among these, I know are DM and NYCOPM.

If I get around a 27 on the MCAT, what are my chances at DM and NYCOPM, if I apply in late November/December? Is my above average GPA enough to get me in at both these places?
 
You will be fine. Pod schools don't care about EC to be honest.

I too had a hard time finding a Science LOR. However, your school have a Health Committee who will write letters. Since it's top 50, i am sure there is a lot of pre-meds. Pod schools take those committee letters that almost all MD schools use these days.

1 committee letter is all you need to satisfy academic LOR.

All you need is a 23+ and you have a GREAT shot at any school.

Get as much Pod hours as you can though.


nm825 said:
I graduated from a top 50 school in May.

cGPA- 3.66
sGPA- 3.43
MCAT- taking in September
Weak ECs- I am trying to find a podiatrist to shadow in the next few months. I enrolled patient in clinical research studies as part of a class. I was the vice-president of my fraternity and vice-president of my junior year dorm. I am also currently enrolled in an EMT class. I hope to get an EMT job/volunteer in September when the class is over.
LOR- My LOR from my major professor (Economics) will be solid. Science LOR will be weak (not that they will say anything negative, but I just don't really know any of my science professors to be honest). As I said, I hope to shadow a podiatrist soon.

I am having a hard time finding a science professor for a LOR. All my classes were big, and to be honest, I never got much out of my classes; I honestly learned more from the books. For this reason, I will only be applying to schools that require a maximum of one science LOR. Among these, I know are DM and NYCOPM.

If I get around a 27 on the MCAT, what are my chances at DM and NYCOPM, if I apply in late November/December? Is my above average GPA enough to get me in at both these places?
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VinceViegel said:
That's good to hear. DMU is my top choice, do you think they'll be fine with it too?
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What did you do in that year? If you failed out of med, dental, etc school then it could be a tough sell.

If not, then just say that you reflected a lot during that year because you did not want to make a commitment without being 100%. Doing so would have been a disservice not only to you, but to the Podiatry profession as a whole. Now that you have shadowed some more Pods and talked to other professions, you are 100% sure you want to devote your life and career to field of Podiatry.

Guarantee acceptance 😀
 
teracky said:
about how many hours shadowing is good? 25+?
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There isn't a specific number. Shadow enough to where you feel comfortable that this is the profession that you want to pursue and where you are also comfortable asking for a letter of recommendation from the doctor.
 
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