What Are My Chances: WAMC Podiatry

[AdrenalineJockie]

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So for anyone that applied to/goes to Barry, how long does it normally take after my application being verified to get a response on an interview or rejection? My application was verified last Friday and a lot of people have been saying most responses are within a day or two (or even hours), so I'm getting nervous.

I'm not going to post my full stats but my sGPA is 3.3 and my cGPA is 3.4, and I haven't taken the MCAT, I have an appointment for it next month.

Maybe because you haven't taken MCAT yet? I'm not sure but you can always email/call the admission and ask if they send interview invite without MCAT on file. I received an invite within 2-3 hours after my app was verified. Good luck!

 

[sad1980s]

Maybe because you haven't taken MCAT yet? I'm not sure but you can always email/call the admission and ask if they send interview invite without MCAT on file. I received an invite within 2-3 hours after my app was verified. Good luck!

I was told you didn't need an MCAT, just an appointment, to get an interview at Barry, I'll give it til next week before I start to panic, thanks.

 

[AdrenalineJockie]

I was told you didn't need an MCAT, just an appointment, to get an interview at Barry, I'll give it til next week before I start to panic, thanks.

Your GPA is good enough, don't need to panic!! Did you apply to Barry only?

 

[sad1980s]

Your GPA is good enough, don't need to panic!! Did you apply to Barry only?

I only applied to Barry, can't move out of state this cycle for family reasons but if I end up getting rejected I'll be applying everywhere next cycle. Thanks for the reassurance.

 

[neurophase]

I was told you didn't need an MCAT, just an appointment, to get an interview at Barry, I'll give it til next week before I start to panic, thanks.

I have a similar GPA as yours and was invited to interview before I had an MCAT score. I didn't get the invite for about a few weeks after I was verified. Be patient, I'm sure you will be okay!

 

[adamma]

Hi guys!

So here is my situation. I have been admitted to pharmacy school and I start late in August. I am really considering switching to podiatry. If I apply now, I would not have to mention anything about pharmacy in my application. However, if I apply when the application first opens for the next cycle early August , I would have to talk about switching from pharmacy school and also provide a resume for that semester. I'm afraid it is late to apply now, and I don't want to risk leaving the pharmacy program. However, would it hurt my application next cycle when if I mention that I'm transferring from a health program? What should I do?

- 3.3 GPA, 2.85 sGPA, great letter of recommendations, volunteering, and research.

 

[de Ribas]

Hi guys!

So here is my situation. I have been admitted to pharmacy school and I start late in August. I am really considering switching to podiatry. If I apply now, I would not have to mention anything about pharmacy in my application. However, if I apply when the application first opens for the next cycle early August , I would have to talk about switching from pharmacy school and also provide a resume for that semester. I'm afraid it is late to apply now, and I don't want to risk leaving the pharmacy program. However, would it hurt my application next cycle when if I mention that I'm transferring from a health program? What should I do?

- 3.3 GPA, 2.85 sGPA, great letter of recommendations, volunteering, and research.

MCAT?

 

[adamma]

MCAT?

I did not take it yet. Trying to figure out when I should take it based on if decide to apply now or August.

 

[DexterMorganSK]

Hi guys!

So here is my situation. I have been admitted to pharmacy school and I start late in August. I am really considering switching to podiatry. If I apply now, I would not have to mention anything about pharmacy in my application. However, if I apply when the application first opens for the next cycle early August , I would have to talk about switching from pharmacy school and also provide a resume for that semester. I'm afraid it is late to apply now, and I don't want to risk leaving the pharmacy program. However, would it hurt my application next cycle when if I mention that I'm transferring from a health program? What should I do?

- 3.3 GPA, 2.85 sGPA, great letter of recommendations, volunteering, and research.

I did not take it yet. Trying to figure out when I should take it based on if decide to apply now or August.

Why the switch from Pharmacy to Podiatry? Have you shadowed a DPM yet?

 

[adamma]

Why the switch from Pharmacy to Podiatry? Have you shadowed a DPM yet?

Yea I started shadowing recently! I really like it and can see myself being a podiatrist more than being a pharmacist

 

[GypsyHummus]

Idk, depending on the school, pharm might be a better option, as it’s only 4 years.

But Pod is a good profession too

Yea I started shadowing recently! I really like it and can see myself being a podiatrist more than being a pharmacist

 

[DexterMorganSK]

Yea I started shadowing recently! I really like it and can see myself being a podiatrist more than being a pharmacist

Great. Try to shadow more than one Pod in different settings (clinics, hospitals, etc).

If the AACPMAS deadline is June 30th, then you will have to take the MCAT either in April/May. If your app is complete and verified before the due date, then you might have a shot for this years class. You can also aim for the Jan 2020 class at NYCPM.

I wouldn't sit for the MCAT if I wasn't scoring around 500 on the AAMCs FLs. GL!

 

[DexterMorganSK]

Idk, depending on the school, pharm might be a better option, as it’s only 4 years.

But Pod is a good profession too

It all depends on what OP wants to be; a specialist or a Pharmacist.

IMO, I don't think Pharm is a better option than Podiatry at the moment. If someone wants to make money right after school (4 years) then sure do Pharm (or even PA/NP school), but that job is mostly as a floater (in retail)..meaning going from one location to another every day; the stress is too real there. But, at the moment, the Pharm jobs are also gearing more towards those with residency experience, either 1 or 2 years. So for a good-stable job in the PharmD world, it will take longer than just 4 years.

It all comes down what we want to do and be, rather than titles.

 

[NTT123]

Predictions based on the MCAT and GPA range of those matriculated in 2017.

Close to no chance: Midwestern, Temple
Little chance: Western
Decent chance at: New York, Kent State
Good Chance: Samuel Meritt, Barry, Scholl

2018 MCAT/GPA

California School of Podiatric Medicine (Samuel Merritt)
Avg Class profiles: 3.44/502
Source: Doctor of Podiatric Medicine Admitted Student Profile

Western University College of Podiatric Medicine
Avg Class profiles: 3.36/498
Source: Competitive Class Stats | Prospective Students

 

[FutureDPM123]

2018 MCAT/GPA

California School of Podiatric Medicine (Samuel Merritt)
Avg Class profiles: 3.44/502
Source: Doctor of Podiatric Medicine Admitted Student Profile

Western University College of Podiatric Medicine
Avg Class profiles: 3.36/498
Source: Competitive Class Stats | Prospective Students

I looked at the range, not just averages. Samuel meritt has a wider range even though the average is higher.

 

[NTT123]

I looked at the range, not just averages. Samuel meritt has a wider range even though the average is higher.

A wide range with those stats at Samuel Merritt implies that they took a few exceptional students, those with low gpa/mcat but with other strong points in there application. That can include anything from research and publications to even personal hardships.

However, the overall average is still higher, as the class size is small at Samuel Merritt (around 45 if I remember correctly). This means that those “lower status students” are not significant enough to shift their overall average.

Prediction should be based on the overall average, not the exceptional extremes on the spectrum, especially for a small class. This would gives you a better prediction outcome.

 

[HarmonicConvergence]

Idk, depending on the school, pharm might be a better option, as it’s only 4 years.

But Pod is a good profession too

I can't imagine how pharm could be a better option in todays world. You get capped at like 130 and are owned by a corporation. Even if you manage to get a hospital job that doesn't even come with a pay increase. You'd probably still have to do a residency to get in there. And idk if you've worked in a retail pharmacy but it is so draining. Standing in one place for hours on end. People disrespecting you because retail brings out the worst in people (any one who's ever worked in retail understands). Imagine holding a doctorate and having to ring someone up for chips and pop. Sends chills down my spine.

We struggle getting respect from our fellow physicians. But can you imagine struggling to get respect from physicians, patients/customers, and your own corporation.

If you want the easy route into good money with minimal schooling PA is def the way to go.
Pods may not be pretty compared to other medical specialties but our floor (120K) is their ceiling. (on avareage I know some pharms make more and some pods make less dont @ Me

 

[Weirdy]

Pharm saturation is insane in real life, not just in SDN echo chamber.

Their 1-2 year residency is simply to better market themselves after completion. Nothing more. Majority of jobs will always be retail.

 

[GypsyHummus]

Well, Pods have to do plenty of stuff you dont need a doctorate for, that a nurse/PA could do, like chip and clip and ingrown nails. Ringing up someone's pop or chips seems like a better deal than trimming someone's nasty fugus feet. I wonder if there are any studies done on the amount of fungus that pods have to breath in.

120K for 7 years is pathetic. Pod average is 125-130K/year. The median is somewhere around the 127K mark. That means 50% (much more than the 10% of all pods working in residency) This is super low for the amount of time required. Most of the Jobs out there are for 110-120K plus small bonus private practice pod clinic.

I can't imagine how pharm could be a better option in todays world. You get capped at like 130 and are owned by a corporation. Even if you manage to get a hospital job that doesn't even come with a pay increase. You'd probably still have to do a residency to get in there. And idk if you've worked in a retail pharmacy but it is so draining. Standing in one place for hours on end. People disrespecting you because retail brings out the worst in people (any one who's ever worked in retail understands). Imagine holding a doctorate and having to ring someone up for chips and pop. Sends chills down my spine.

We struggle getting respect from our fellow physicians. But can you imagine struggling to get respect from physicians, patients/customers, and your own corporation.

If you want the easy route into good money with minimal schooling PA is def the way to go.
Pods may not be pretty compared to other medical specialties but our floor (120K) is their ceiling. (on avareage I know some pharms make more and some pods make less dont @ Me

 

[DexterMorganSK]

Well, Pods have to do plenty of stuff you dont need a doctorate for, that a nurse/PA could do, like chip and clip and ingrown nails. Ringing up someone's pop or chips seems like a better deal than trimming someone's nasty fugus feet. I wonder if there are any studies done on the amount of fungus that pods have to breath in.

120K for 7 years is pathetic. Pod average is 125-130K/year. The median is somewhere around the 127K mark. That means 50% (much more than the 10% of all pods working in residency) This is super low for the amount of time required. Most of the Jobs out there are for 110-120K plus small bonus private practice pod clinic.

You're looking at the wrong source for those averages. The real numbers are much better.

Major changes are coming to this field in the next 5-10 years!

 

[adamma]

It all depends on what OP wants to be; a specialist or a Pharmacist.

IMO, I don't think Pharm is a better option than Podiatry at the moment. If someone wants to make money right after school (4 years) then sure do Pharm (or even PA/NP school), but that job is mostly as a floater (in retail)..meaning going from one location to another every day; the stress is too real there. But, at the moment, the Pharm jobs are also gearing more towards those with residency experience, either 1 or 2 years. So for a good-stable job in the PharmD world, it will take longer than just 4 years.

It all comes down what we want to do and be, rather than titles.

I'm pretty determined to apply for this cycle. Basically I have my application ready just need to take the MCAT. Would it be hard to get around 495 after 2 months full time studying? Or is it better to take my time and apply next cycle while being a pharmacy student?
Thanks

 

[adamma]

It’d probably be better to just bite the bullet and study for the next two months for the mcat; you can submit your app now and put your future mcat date so schools know you plan on taking it soon. Once you start pharmacy school, you’ll be drowned in coursework, you won’t have much time to breathe, let alone study for the mcat.

I was thinking about studying for the MCAT now then take it June and apply as soon as the applciations open next cycle in August. This way when I start pharmacy school late August, I would be done with everything and just be waiting to hear back. The thing is I am afraid that then I would have been matriculated in pharmacy, and that would hurt my application/the schools would want to wait for my first semester transcript from pharmacy school although I plan to drop if accepted.

 

[PodSquat]

I was thinking about studying for the MCAT now then take it June and apply as soon as the applciations open next cycle in August. This way when I start pharmacy school late August, I would be done with everything and just be waiting to hear back. The thing is I am afraid that then I would have been matriculated in pharmacy, and that would hurt my application/the schools would want to wait for my first semester transcript from pharmacy school although I plan to drop if accepted.

If you do not want to go to Pharmacy school, why would you pay tuition for a year? Why not try to get in this cycle? If you do well on your MCAT, you can probably even get in in June/July. Bunch of Pod schools don't fill their classes and could take additional students if they wanted to. You would be wasting a year and money waiting for next cycle to start podiatry school and spending a year at a pharmacy school.

Edit:
Bunch of schools even take the June MCAT if you're worried about not having enough time to study for it!

Look through this guide for more information:
https://www.aacpm.org/wp-content/uploads/2018-2019_CIB_FINAL_FOR-WEB-1.pdf

 

[HarmonicConvergence]

Well, Pods have to do plenty of stuff you dont need a doctorate for, that a nurse/PA could do, like chip and clip and ingrown nails. Ringing up someone's pop or chips seems like a better deal than trimming someone's nasty fugus feet. I wonder if there are any studies done on the amount of fungus that pods have to breath in.

120K for 7 years is pathetic. Pod average is 125-130K/year. The median is somewhere around the 127K mark. That means 50% (much more than the 10% of all pods working in residency) This is super low for the amount of time required. Most of the Jobs out there are for 110-120K plus small bonus private practice pod clinic.

That is low. And that is usually the low starting salary. Any podiatrist taking a job under 100K is a fool. MGMA is usualy most reliable source for income. Average is probs around 170ish. Even BLS which is usually the most conservative of reports and includes residents put average at 130K. And if you stay at 130K your entire career you probs have zero business sense, Which is still low compared to medical specialties. But better than pharm. And residency you're still making 50-60K. Not amazing but still pretty good compared to most of america.

I once shadowed a pod. He trimmed some nails. After he asked me how long did it take me to trim those nails. I said idk 10-15 minutes. He said I just made $55 in 10 minutes. How log does it take the average person to make $55. I said idk hours. He said and never forget that.

Every specialty has to do things that don't require a doctorate. Literally the reason for these PA/NP turf battles. What separates us is the ability to do the things that do. And to be the best at it.

 

[DexterMorganSK]

I'm pretty determined to apply for this cycle. Basically I have my application ready just need to take the MCAT. Would it be hard to get around 495 after 2 months full time studying? Or is it better to take my time and apply next cycle while being a pharmacy student?
Thanks

I agree with the others.

Choose one field and stick with it, no point keeping your feet in both because you will not be able to concentrate with the MCAT studying or Pharmacy school.
If its Podiatry, then submit now, tell them a date when you may take the MCAT and start studying.
There is no guarantee but a program may even allow you to interview after the June 30th deadline (it all depends on how many accepted students they have at that point). If you're interested in a specific program, once you have an MCAT date, email them and let them know.

I'll say it again: don't take the MCAT if you are not scoring close to 500 or better on the AAMCs practice exams..ie don't rush into it just to get in this year. Imo, you rather have a good score, apply early for next cycle and get them scholarship $$$.

Good luck!

 

[de Ribas]

That is low. And that is usually the low starting salary. Any podiatrist taking a job under 100K is a fool. MGMA is usualy most reliable source for income. Average is probs around 170ish. Even BLS which is usually the most conservative of reports and includes residents put average at 130K. And if you stay at 130K your entire career you probs have zero business sense, Which is still low compared to medical specialties. But better than pharm. And residency you're still making 50-60K. Not amazing but still pretty good compared to most of america.

I once shadowed a pod. He trimmed some nails. After he asked me how long did it take me to trim those nails. I said idk 10-15 minutes. He said I just made $55 in 10 minutes. How log does it take the average person to make $55. I said idk hours. He said and never forget that.

Every specialty has to do things that don't require a doctorate. Literally the reason for these PA/NP turf battles. What separates us is the ability to do the things that do. And to be the best at it.

Look at job postings for pediatricians for example. Very common to see postings with 100-150K, 120-170K and somewhere around 200K. That makes even less sense for me. DO schools are about 15-20K more expensive and some still end up with these salaries as DOs or MDs. It is not uncommon to see FM jobs posted online with less than 200K as well. But keep in mind. Vast majority of them work longer hours.

By they way, VA postings for pods and other physicians now say 103-230k range. Max was like 170k before the new bill.

 

[girlwithameddream]

Look at job postings for pediatricians for example. Very common to see postings with 100-150K, 120-170K and somewhere around 200K. That makes even less sense for me. DO schools are about 15-20K more expensive and some still end up with these salaries as DOs or MDs. It is not uncommon to see FM jobs posted online with less than 200K as well. But keep in mind. Vast majority of them work longer hours.

By they way, VA postings for pods and other physicians now say 103-230k range. Max was like 170k before the new bill.

What’s the new bill?

 

[GypsyHummus]

That is low, and that is what a good portion of Pods who work in private practice are offered. Considering a majority of pods will end up working in private practice, that is the number you should be expecting after graduating from residency. Of course, if you get more in a hospital or MSG clinic, more power to you. \

Pharm, if you can actually find full time work, are usually much more constant with the salary prospects. Now, the saturation is very real however, so I can deff see the argument for pursuing other healthcare fields.

And yeah, chip n clip can pay if you do them back to back, thats how most small pod practices stay in business. The pod I shadowed told me it (chip clip) yields very low RVU.

The difference with MD/DO is (moreso Primary care and non surgical), when NPs/PA eventually do take over, the MD can always open up another business venture, like an urgent care or medical spa, because of their unlimited license. Pods are kind of stuck in Podiatry. This may be fine, as most NPs/PAs/MDs dont want to do foot stuff anyway, its kind of the reason pods exist lol. NP level encroachment could happen though because other than surgery, a NP can do anything a Pod can do.

That is low. And that is usually the low starting salary. Any podiatrist taking a job under 100K is a fool. MGMA is usualy most reliable source for income. Average is probs around 170ish. Even BLS which is usually the most conservative of reports and includes residents put average at 130K. And if you stay at 130K your entire career you probs have zero business sense, Which is still low compared to medical specialties. But better than pharm. And residency you're still making 50-60K. Not amazing but still pretty good compared to most of america.

I once shadowed a pod. He trimmed some nails. After he asked me how long did it take me to trim those nails. I said idk 10-15 minutes. He said I just made $55 in 10 minutes. How log does it take the average person to make $55. I said idk hours. He said and never forget that.

Every specialty has to do things that don't require a doctorate. Literally the reason for these PA/NP turf battles. What separates us is the ability to do the things that do. And to be the best at it.

I see much more at the 200K mark. Median according to bls is around 170K, thats including residents as well, just like pod. Plain and simple, a MD/DO will most likely make more than a Pod. One only has to go as far as the Podiatry vs Family Med forums to see the difference.

Look at job postings for pediatricians for example. Very common to see postings with 100-150K, 120-170K and somewhere around 200K. That makes even less sense for me. DO schools are about 15-20K more expensive and some still end up with these salaries as DOs or MDs. It is not uncommon to see FM jobs posted online with less than 200K as well. But keep in mind. Vast majority of them work longer hours.

By they way, VA postings for pods and other physicians now say 103-230k range. Max was like 170k before the new bill.

 

[de Ribas]

That is low, and that is what a good portion of Pods who work in private practice are offered. Considering a majority of pods will

What is low?

 

[de Ribas]

What’s the new bill?

VA provider equity act

 

[NTT123]

Podiatric Medicine and Surgery is a great profession but its not for eveyrone. There are many great professions out there you can making good living and helping people.

This is for future reader who is interested in Podiatric Medicine.

Under CMS, only MD/DO/DPM can legally perform foot care that meet criteria (such as diabetes or neuropathy) can get reimbursed. Patients without those criteria are not reimbursed.
( In reality, majority of these services are provided by DPM)

If a NP/PA perform a footcare("chip clip"), they will not get reimbursed. If the practice who hires a NP/PA to perform these services and bill Medicare as MD/DO/DPM, thats Medicare Fraud.

 

[DexterMorganSK]

Create a new thread, no point derailing the WAMCs thread!

 

[HarmonicConvergence]

That is low, and that is what a good portion of Pods who work in private practice are offered. Considering a majority of pods will end up working in private practice, that is the number you should be expecting after graduating from residency. Of course, if you get more in a hospital or MSG clinic, more power to you. \

Pharm, if you can actually find full time work, are usually much more constant with the salary prospects. Now, the saturation is very real however, so I can deff see the argument for pursuing other healthcare fields.

And yeah, chip n clip can pay if you do them back to back, thats how most small pod practices stay in business. The pod I shadowed told me it (chip clip) yields very low RVU.

The difference with MD/DO is (moreso Primary care and non surgical), when NPs/PA eventually do take over, the MD can always open up another business venture, like an urgent care or medical spa, because of their unlimited license. Pods are kind of stuck in Podiatry. This may be fine, as most NPs/PAs/MDs dont want to do foot stuff anyway, its kind of the reason pods exist lol. NP level encroachment could happen though because other than surgery, a NP can do anything a Pod can do.




I see much more at the 200K mark. Median according to bls is around 170K, thats including residents as well, just like pod. Plain and simple, a MD/DO will most likely make more than a Pod. One only has to go as far as the Podiatry vs Family Med forums to see the difference.

Yeah that is what they are offered right out of residency but that is the floor. 120K is where a pod will most likely be starting if they go private practice. But as you move forward with your career build a patient base and polish your skills you should be moving upward. Where as pharm what you get is basically where you stay for your entire career give or take 10-25K

Def not arguing against MD/DO on the income side. We are talking about pharmD here. The D.PM has a very high ceiling compared to the pharmD.

And I think if we are comparing private dpm to private fam doc they will probs win every time. But if we are talking surgical hospital or multispecialty group pod then I think we may come out ahead. (yes I understand this is not the norm). But i believe in the next 5-10 years it may be as surgical pods do alot of out patient surgery which keeps the hospitals surgery centres busy.

Also there are alot if primary care physicians. One city/town only needs so many medical spas and urgent care facilities. Medical spas are usually run by derm or plastics anyway. I just don't see NP's trying to take over podiatry. They're focus on primary care plus like you said people for some reason don't like feet. And it looks like medicine is ready to start fighting back against them so who knows what will happe

 

[GypsyHummus]

Its a bit creepy how you keep following my posts and mentioning things Ive said from months to years ago. This isnt the first time you have done this either.

I'm sorry Prehealth1011, Im just not into you like that. I hope we can still be just friends.

^This is from one of your previous posts.
Just keep looking and you should be good right? Most pods you know make more anyway. You said it yourself.
Not to mention your two cousins that are also doing well in Podiatry.

 

[adamma]

I agree with the others.

Choose one field and stick with it, no point keeping your feet in both because you will not be able to concentrate with the MCAT studying or Pharmacy school.
If its Podiatry, then submit now, tell them a date when you may take the MCAT and start studying.
There is no guarantee but a program may even allow you to interview after the June 30th deadline (it all depends on how many accepted students they have at that point). If you're interested in a specific program, once you have an MCAT date, email them and let them know.

I'll say it again: don't take the MCAT if you are not scoring close to 500 or better on the AAMCs practice exams..ie don't rush into it just to get in this year. Imo, you rather have a good score, apply early for next cycle and get them scholarship $$$.

Good luck!

I will do

I agree with the others.

Choose one field and stick with it, no point keeping your feet in both because you will not be able to concentrate with the MCAT studying or Pharmacy school.
If its Podiatry, then submit now, tell them a date when you may take the MCAT and start studying.
There is no guarantee but a program may even allow you to interview after the June 30th deadline (it all depends on how many accepted students they have at that point). If you're interested in a specific program, once you have an MCAT date, email them and let them know.

I'll say it again: don't take the MCAT if you are not scoring close to 500 or better on the AAMCs practice exams..ie don't rush into it just to get in this year. Imo, you rather have a good score, apply early for next cycle and get them scholarship $$$.

Good luck!

Thanks for the advice 🙂 I will go ahead submit the application now and take the May MCAT

At this point, I am only worried that I'm applying late. It appears to be that u have to apply early to be accepted. Is it a small chance of acceptance for an average student this time of the cycle? Or do I have decent chance as I'm planning to apply to to 3-4 schools?

 

[HarmonicConvergence]

I will do

Thanks for the advice 🙂 I will go ahead submit the application now and take the May MCAT

At this point, I am only worried that I'm applying late. It appears to be that u have to apply early to be accepted. Is it a small chance of acceptance for an average student this time of the cycle? Or do I have decent chance as I'm planning to apply to to 3-4 schools?

The bigger schools Kent, NYCPM, Temple etc people have been accepted applying right up until the deadline. I think if you apply to a bigger school you'll have a solid chance. Probs little to no scholarship tho.

 

[DexterMorganSK]

I will do

Thanks for the advice 🙂 I will go ahead submit the application now and take the May MCAT

At this point, I am only worried that I'm applying late. It appears to be that u have to apply early to be accepted. Is it a small chance of acceptance for an average student this time of the cycle? Or do I have decent chance as I'm planning to apply to to 3-4 schools?

I agree with JKGarv. Some of us applied late April/May and still got in on time.

 

[de Ribas]

Is there any way of telling how many seats have been filled with schools now? Like would the Facebook group member count be accurate?

I dont think FB would be close to accurate.

 

[Radxical]

Is there any way of telling how many seats have been filled with schools now? Like would the Facebook group member count be accurate?

If they send you an interview, I would assume they have seats available.

I applied two weeks ago and got invites from all 9. Someone here said to only apply to the ones you want to go to and I, thinking about my MD/DO app, was paranoid and applied everywhere.

 

[lisister]

Hey guys!!
I'm a recent Rutgers grad and my top choice is temple. What do you think my chances are if I apply early when the apps open up in August? Is there anything else I can do for my application? I know I'm being slightly neurotic but I just wanted to make sure I gave it my best shot🙂

cgpa: 3.28
sgpa: 2.92 🙁
upward trends in gpa: 3.10, 2.97, 2.88, 3.07 (end of sophomore year), 3.34, 3.50, 3.44, 3.91
MCAT: 501 (123,124,125,129) I felt really nervous when I first took it and felt I started off slow so I scheduled a retake. I'm retaking this Friday (3/15) practice tests have been scoring around 506-508.
EC: 2 clubs + one leadership position in one of the clubs, 600 nonclinical volunteering hours + 200 clinical volunteering hours, 4 months FT clinical experience as medical assistant, ~2000 hours of research (currently FT doing research)
Shadowing: 60 hours - pediatric surgeon, 20 hrs - podiatrist (currently shadowing.. I can probably rack up to 80 hours before I apply... don't think I can increase shadowing that much because I am working FT, I can't find any weekend clinics near me either)
LOR: I believe they are very strong, my PI's + science professors I was close w/ wrote them. + I will also ask the podiatrist I'm shadowing for one.

 

[de Ribas]

Hey guys!!
I'm a recent Rutgers grad and my top choice is temple. What do you think my chances are if I apply early when the apps open up in August? Is there anything else I can do for my application? I know I'm being slightly neurotic but I just wanted to make sure I gave it my best shot🙂

cgpa: 3.28
sgpa: 2.92 🙁
upward trends in gpa: 3.10, 2.97, 2.88, 3.07 (end of sophomore year), 3.34, 3.50, 3.44, 3.91
MCAT: 501 (123,124,125,129) I felt really nervous when I first took it and felt I started off slow so I scheduled a retake. I'm retaking this Friday (3/15) practice tests have been scoring around 506-508.
EC: 2 clubs + one leadership position in one of the clubs, 600 nonclinical volunteering hours + 200 clinical volunteering hours, 4 months FT clinical experience as medical assistant, ~2000 hours of research (currently FT doing research)
Shadowing: 60 hours - pediatric surgeon, 20 hrs - podiatrist (currently shadowing.. I can probably rack up to 80 hours before I apply... don't think I can increase shadowing that much because I am working FT, I can't find any weekend clinics near me either)
LOR: I believe they are very strong, my PI's + science professors I was close w/ wrote them. + I will also ask the podiatrist I'm shadowing for one.

I think you have good chances especially if you apply early in the cycle.

I don't think you need to shadow podiatric physician for 80 hours. You can do it if you like and have time, but 20-30 hrs is enough in my opinion. Even if you decide to shadow more, shadow different DPMs in OR, hospital and private practice.

I also don't think you needed to retake MCAT. I think 501 is a good score.

Good luck!




EDIT:


Looks like you are already in your gap year. If you don't want another gap year, you could still apply this cycle. With your MCAT and ECs, I am sure you will get interviews.

 

[FutureDPM123]

Hey guys!!
I'm a recent Rutgers grad and my top choice is temple. What do you think my chances are if I apply early when the apps open up in August? Is there anything else I can do for my application? I know I'm being slightly neurotic but I just wanted to make sure I gave it my best shot🙂

cgpa: 3.28
sgpa: 2.92 🙁
upward trends in gpa: 3.10, 2.97, 2.88, 3.07 (end of sophomore year), 3.34, 3.50, 3.44, 3.91
MCAT: 501 (123,124,125,129) I felt really nervous when I first took it and felt I started off slow so I scheduled a retake. I'm retaking this Friday (3/15) practice tests have been scoring around 506-508.
EC: 2 clubs + one leadership position in one of the clubs, 600 nonclinical volunteering hours + 200 clinical volunteering hours, 4 months FT clinical experience as medical assistant, ~2000 hours of research (currently FT doing research)
Shadowing: 60 hours - pediatric surgeon, 20 hrs - podiatrist (currently shadowing.. I can probably rack up to 80 hours before I apply... don't think I can increase shadowing that much because I am working FT, I can't find any weekend clinics near me either)
LOR: I believe they are very strong, my PI's + science professors I was close w/ wrote them. + I will also ask the podiatrist I'm shadowing for one.

You'll definitely get accepted somewhere. Even if you applied for this cycle I think you could get in. But raising your mcat a little and being an early applicant will help get scholarships.

 

[GypsyHummus]

You could apply now and prolly get in anywhere you applied with a 501 MCAT. I would not retake if I were you.

Hey guys!!
I'm a recent Rutgers grad and my top choice is temple. What do you think my chances are if I apply early when the apps open up in August? Is there anything else I can do for my application? I know I'm being slightly neurotic but I just wanted to make sure I gave it my best shot🙂

cgpa: 3.28
sgpa: 2.92 🙁
upward trends in gpa: 3.10, 2.97, 2.88, 3.07 (end of sophomore year), 3.34, 3.50, 3.44, 3.91
MCAT: 501 (123,124,125,129) I felt really nervous when I first took it and felt I started off slow so I scheduled a retake. I'm retaking this Friday (3/15) practice tests have been scoring around 506-508.
EC: 2 clubs + one leadership position in one of the clubs, 600 nonclinical volunteering hours + 200 clinical volunteering hours, 4 months FT clinical experience as medical assistant, ~2000 hours of research (currently FT doing research)
Shadowing: 60 hours - pediatric surgeon, 20 hrs - podiatrist (currently shadowing.. I can probably rack up to 80 hours before I apply... don't think I can increase shadowing that much because I am working FT, I can't find any weekend clinics near me either)
LOR: I believe they are very strong, my PI's + science professors I was close w/ wrote them. + I will also ask the podiatrist I'm shadowing for one.

 

[mk968]

Update!!

Undergraduate Institution: Drexel University
cgpa: 3.26
sgpa: 3.05
MCAT: not taken yet, scheduled for 5/11/2019

Extracurricular Activities:
Substitute teacher for elementary school for 2 months
Rehab Aide for Hahnemann University Hospital for 6 months (equivalent to ~ 1000 hours)
Military Police for ROKAF (Republic of Korea Air Force) for 2 years
Drexel Writing Center tutor for 6 months

Applied: Kent State, Temple, Des Moines, Scholl, NYCPM.
Interview: Kent State
Declined: None

Applied Date: 3/9/2019

I just wanted to do a post for those who are nervous that they are late in the cycle. It seems that Kent State still has spots opened, and they do interview without MCAT score. Also, I've gotten a call from NYCPM today recommending a school tour and open house.

I'll keep an update on the status, but it's not too late if you are applying for fall of 2019 still!

Best of luck to you all.

 

[adamma]

Update!!

Undergraduate Institution: Drexel University
cgpa: 3.26
sgpa: 3.05
MCAT: not taken yet, scheduled for 5/11/2019

Extracurricular Activities:
Substitute teacher for elementary school for 2 months
Rehab Aide for Hahnemann University Hospital for 6 months (equivalent to ~ 1000 hours)
Military Police for ROKAF (Republic of Korea Air Force) for 2 years
Drexel Writing Center tutor for 6 months

Applied: Kent State, Temple, Des Moines, Scholl, NYCPM.
Interview: Kent State
Declined: None

Applied Date: 3/9/2019

I just wanted to do a post for those who are nervous that they are late in the cycle. It seems that Kent State still has spots opened, and they do interview without MCAT score. Also, I've gotten a call from NYCPM today recommending a school tour and open house.

I'll keep an update on the status, but it's not too late if you are applying for fall of 2019 still!

Best of luck to you all.

Nice! Did Kent send u an email first saying it would take 2-3 weeks for a committee meeting?

 

[FutureDPM123]

It's really never too late, but it's preferred to apply earlier. Kent and Temple are such big schools that they will usually have spots as late as June.

 

[mk968]

Nice! Did Kent send u an email first saying it would take 2-3 weeks for a committee meeting?

Actually, they didn't send me any emails regarding anything of a sort. But I did schedule my interview for late march. I've actually visited Kent State just last week to do a school tour to see the faculty and resource, and my understanding based on talking with the admission personnel is that Kent State offers interview for competitive candidates, and gives out conditional acceptance letter with requirement of a certain MCAT score.

 

[Podoosh]

Greetings everyone,

I received my MCAT score now and I am a little disheartened because of it, and am worried about my chances now.

cGPA: 3.39
sGPA: 3.01 (3.16 if math was included, but now its not)
MCAT: 488 (122/123/122/121) <<<< i know this isn't good, and I don't mind retaking in Jan
EC: Attended both NYCPM & TUSPM pre-health summer internships, about 75 hours in hospital volunteering, 350 hours of red cross volunteering, some leadership, 3800 hours in customer service & 1200 hours in pharmacy technician, so 5000 hours of retail basically.
Schools: I didn't submit my application yet, but my top choices are NYCPM, Temple, and Barry. I know NYCPM and Temple are kind of a reach now. What other schools should I consider then?

My question: I know my MCAT isn't great but I'd like to still submit my application. If i am rejected from schools, is that a permanent rejection even if I retake the MCAT is Jan (like i can't show them I retook the MCAT, got a better score, and then they'd reconsider), or it's a one and done kind of deal. I know some schools offer acceptance upon retaking for a better score.
Thanks for any feedback.

Hi guys, just a little update from my previous post in October:
~Retook the MCAT and scored a 494, still not the best, but it is a big improvement compared to a 488.
I scored an Interview at NYCPM for the end of March and i'm beyond happy about it!

If an interview is granted, does that mean that your stats are adequete enough and it just really relys on the interview if you get in or not?
I know there are variables and reg flags, but why would they bother sending an interview invite if they already know your red flag could not get you accepted.

 

[Weirdy]

Hi guys, just a little update from my previous post in October:
~Retook the MCAT and scored a 494, still not the best, but it is a big improvement compared to a 488.
I scored an Interview at NYCPM for the end of March and i'm beyond happy about it!

If an interview is granted, does that mean that your stats are adequete enough and it just really relys on the interview if you get in or not?
I know there are variables and reg flags, but why would they bother sending an interview invite if they already know your red flag could not get you accepted.

Nice.

If they sent you an invite ,they are interested.
Unless you royally f*** up the interview somehow (socially inept, inappropriate, a robot-even then...), they will take you.

 

[MondayFeels2013]

Debating if I should apply so late. Mostly interested in the schools in Ohio, Iowa, & Arizona. Have a 496 MCAT, 3.4 cGPA, &3.8 sGPA. 200 shadowing hours by shadowing a DO &MD. Able to get a LOR from a podiatrist.