WW Duck Dynasty Game Thread

[Escalla]

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Or, the familiar voice means nothing and the mods were just adding that in for ****es and giggles... either is possible...

I brought it up because it does seem interesting.

Really all LIS' list says is that rojo didn't kill EC. That is about it.

I am still thinking, I have to get some studying done, only a week in and already drowning in lectures, be back later.

Yes, it's possible, but really....is it likely? I wouldn't consider the other wolves to be familiar and it wasn't a conversion (unless there was one N1 which is pretty unlikely...). So why would it be included? That seems like a big thing to mess around with in the results so early on in the game.

I don't think it's a stretch in thinking that there's a wolf that can avoid investigation.

 

[devyn]

I dun bloody understand why thur are no kills fur the last few nights.... something is damn fishy round these here parts.... and I membered to take my weekly scrub wif my rubber duckie.....

fur now...

lynch rojo


I am gonna have sum whiskey with my study perhaps that'll clear my head

 

[DVMDream]

Yes, it's possible, but really....is it likely? I wouldn't consider the other wolves to be familiar and it wasn't a conversion (unless there was one N1 which is pretty unlikely...). So why would it be included? That seems like a big thing to mess around with in the results so early on in the game.

I don't think it's a stretch in thinking that there's a wolf that can avoid investigation.

I would do it...

I use creativity all the time in write ups... then I laugh when someone gets caught up on it when it really meant nothing.

I could see it either way... to be honest. Yes, it is very possible that a wolf can avoid investigation (how much investigation? I dunno)... it is also possible mods were just being creative...

I don't know... I am still thinking, I will decide later, after study.

 

[Escalla]

Ok, so going with the thought that the mods just added it for fun (I still disagree, but whatever), then the familiar voice would be completely out of the equation and you would be lynching on the thought that Justin Martin is a false claim?

With both The Mountain Man and John Godwin as villagers in the game....and the claim of Justin Martin being made as soon as the game went up....I really doubt it's a false claim because of these reasons.

I'd rather not lose Rojo for us to figure out that the list needs to go out the window and that we need to go back to Square 1.

 

[Flim Flam Man]

Ok, so going with the thought that the mods just added it for fun (I still disagree, but whatever), then the familiar voice would be completely out of the equation and you would be lynching on the thought that Justin Martin is a false claim?

With both The Mountain Man and John Godwin as villagers in the game....and the claim of Justin Martin being made as soon as the game went up....I really doubt it's a false claim because of these reasons.

I'd rather not lose Rojo for us to figure out that the list needs to go out the window and that we need to go back to Square 1.

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Anyone else thinking what I'm thinking?
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[Escalla]

It would apply to anyone that I've worked closely with in any given game. WW Crazy Town, anyone? 🙄

 

[Escalla]

I've made my argument. I'll be back with a vote later.

 

[that redhead]

Ok, so going with the thought that the mods just added it for fun (I still disagree, but whatever), then the familiar voice would be completely out of the equation and you would be lynching on the thought that Justin Martin is a false claim?

With both The Mountain Man and John Godwin as villagers in the game....and the claim of Justin Martin being made as soon as the game went up....I really doubt it's a false claim because of these reasons.

I'd rather not lose Rojo for us to figure out that the list needs to go out the window and that we need to go back to Square 1.

It's certainly possible he has the name Justin Martin.

Which would you think the more likely name given as an alias for a wolf: Justin Martin or a Robertson family member?

 

[Escalla]

It's certainly possible he has the name Justin Martin.

Which would you think the more likely name given as an alias for a wolf: Justin Martin or a Robertson family member?

Why would the mods include John Godwin and The Mountain Man as villagers and put a "familiar voice" in a write-up when there's a wolf with a villager name (i.e. Martin)?

He first told me that he was "Justin Martin, a redneck". I got exactly "John Godwin, a redneck". It was too early in the game to know about the inclusion of "redneck" in the role PMs.

 

[Escalla]

Why would the mods include John Godwin and The Mountain Man as villagers and put a "familiar voice" in a write-up when there's a wolf with a villager name (i.e. Martin)?

It's not impossible, I just don't see it as at all likely.

 

[Escalla]

Why would the mods include John Godwin and The Mountain Man as villagers and put a "familiar voice" in a write-up when there's a wolf with a villager name (i.e. Martin)?

lol ok, my point was I think they would put a familiar voice in there for a reason if there was a wolf with a villager name.

Except we know it's not Justin Martin as per LIS.

 

[that redhead]

I think we need to go off of jj's list at this point, as her information has been correct this far. I understand you won't be budging, and I will apologize if we're wrong but its the only solid thing we have to go of off right now.

 

[primatevetjess]

The other possibility is that someone I cleared as a redneck was an unseerable wolf. Or had an item that blocked seering. Out of the people I cleared, two came back as rednecks. The others were very prominent family members, and I don't think an unseerable wolf would come back as one of them. Between those two rednecks, I trust one of them much more than the other.

Right now I'm torn between that redneck (and hoping it was an unseerable wolf) and drjojo. When is deadline?

 

[thedrjojo]

I appreciate Escalla's support, and yeah, before the elects even finished, I had sent her a PM stating I was Justin Martin, redneck, meaning I knew rednecks were just villagers before there was any indication that rednecks were the villagers here...

I gave the information on FFM being a yuppy

I have been shown that I definitely didn't kill EC when it was a "familiar voice"

...

If I was everyone else, I'd lynch me too at this point, so I don't blame anyone at this time. 9 out of 10 times when we get in this situation, we are correct, and it gets a wolf. It won't this time, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to make this decision to lynch me. And it's me, I get it, so I'm sure most of you have zero reason to give me the benefit of the doubt, and many of you will be just glad to get rid of that question mark or suspicion and move on with it. I'm so glad I am actually a villager for once because escalla will be vindicated in her trust in me.

And because I'm otherwise at square 1, and in the end it won't matter, I won't be voting for anyone this time, unless it somehow turns into a close vote, but i think that will be very hard to fathom.

 

[thedrjojo]

The other possibility is that someone I cleared as a redneck was an unseerable wolf. Or had an item that blocked seering. Out of the people I cleared, two came back as rednecks. The others were very prominent family members, and I don't think an unseerable wolf would come back as one of them. Between those two rednecks, I trust one of them much more than the other.

Right now I'm torn between that redneck (and hoping it was an unseerable wolf) and drjojo. When is deadline?

10pm EST.

If it wasn't me, I'd be arguing for you to lynch me first, and when I turn out to be a villager, then lynch this other person (that's the most logical way...). It might be useful (on several levels) for you to say who this "redneck" you suspect is, since that would make them a good duck call target, and if you die, i'd like it not to go to the grave... but i'd also not like to go to the grave.

 

[Escalla]

I think we need to go off of jj's list at this point, as her information has been correct this far. I understand you won't be budging, and I will apologize if we're wrong but its the only solid thing we have to go of off right now.

I'm trying to show you that just sticking to the list is the easy way out. Then you don't have to face the possibility of the seer info being useless until after lynch closes.

As a vanilla, it becomes difficult to contribute heavily to the game and make a difference. Usually I try to help the villagers by preventing us from lynching them and pushing for the lynch of someone I think is a wolf based on thread posts and PMs alone. This was true for last game as well (since being a florist didn't provide any useful information).

So here I am, trying to defend a villager because I'm pretty useless otherwise.

Lynch kaydubs. My top suspicion when looking at who's left.

 

[Escalla]

The other possibility is that someone I cleared as a redneck was an unseerable wolf. Or had an item that blocked seering. Out of the people I cleared, two came back as rednecks. The others were very prominent family members, and I don't think an unseerable wolf would come back as one of them. Between those two rednecks, I trust one of them much more than the other.

Right now I'm torn between that redneck (and hoping it was an unseerable wolf) and drjojo. When is deadline?

I don't know if we are thinking of the same person, but this is why I'm lynching kaydubs.

FFM could have lynched her to save himself instead of Jayna, but he didn't. Maybe that means something, maybe it doesn't. But that and the redneck thing and that I've been suspicious of her all game has led me to her today.

 

[Escalla]

If you have also been suspicious of kaydubs and agree that a redneck cover is a good possibility if there is a wolf that can avoid investigation...I urge you to consider giving it another night and investigating Rojo to be sure.

I don't get this mental when I'm not next to absolutely sure. I'd like it to be worth something.

 

[thedrjojo]

I don't know if we are thinking of the same person, but this is why I'm lynching kaydubs.

FFM could have lynched her to save himself instead of Jayna, but he didn't. Maybe that means something, maybe it doesn't. But that and the redneck thing and that I've been suspicious of her all game has led me to her today.

Unless we believe she can avoid both the Duck Call and the Seer, i dunno if it's Kaydubs, since my duck call of her was redneck.

 

[Escalla]

Unless we believe she can avoid both the Duck Call and the Seer, i dunno if it's Kaydubs, since my duck call of her was redneck.

The seer and duck call are the same. The "affiliation" part comes in the role name (hence Allie being a yuppy), and therefore means nothing if a wolf can avoid investigation.

 

[DVMDream]

The seer and duck call are the same. The "affiliation" part comes in the role name (hence Allie being a yuppy), and therefore means nothing if a wolf can avoid investigation.

I don't know if I agree with this.... I am kind of torn... why say that an item in the description will reveal affiliation if it does not? My guess is that if someone has a cover up name it would be shown with the duck call (the cover name, yuppy).... we just haven't found that person yet. Of course, this is a complete guess... I could be off, but seems odd to specifically state that the duck call reveals affiliation, if it really does not.

 

[DVMDream]

Also, not sure which two people jj found as redneck... since kaydubs is supposedly redneck, I am redneck and Jam was also redneck... so that is three people... would like to hear what she is thinking, because something does not add up... unless one of us was not seered by her role and instead by duck call, she did say that she combined the info (at least I thought I saw her mention this).

 

[that redhead]

I was brainstorming on the way home, but you all seem to have reached the same conclusion, which is that "redneck" is the more likely wolfy cover. There is something else making me think this (just my own thoughts, nothing item or role-related) but suffice to say I'm not feeling as strongly about rojo at this moment.

However, if we're looking at which redneck, my guess is DVMD. Everyone in our group has shared their info with her (except me) and there has been an almost meticulous avoidance of our group in wolf kills - I imagine that if they started dropping off someone would wonder about DVMD knowing their roles and them dying.

She used the duck caller on SnS instead of rojo after being effusively confident in SnS not being a wolf. Which makes it seem like she left rojo as an uncertainty on purpose.

I may be way off, but unlynch rojo, lynch DVMD.

 

[that redhead]

And I think that the duck call would reveal a "true" yuppy, even if the role title was redneck. Haven't had it, but that's what I'd guess.

 

[thedrjojo]

This is who has been cleared and in what order:

LIS
Abney
Devyn
Jam
kaydubs
TRH
DVMD

I won't role reveal for those who haven't yet, but every one of those came back as either "redneck" or a member of the Robinson family. So if you look back to before Dwin was killed, that's how I made my suspicion list. I just listed all players left and figured and original wolf had to be among those not cleared.

Now, I'm just thoroughly confused. These are the possibilities:
- Only two original wolves to start: I consider this highly unlikely.
- Someone is a very adamant and very good liar.
- A wolf was able to evade investigation and come back as good. I hadn't considered this, but I suppose it's possible.

At this point I'm sure I'm dead tonight. But there's everything I know, combining investigations from a role and from the item. Good luck, villagers.

The only person cleared with the duck call is Jam - a "redneck". The other source gives role name or redneck, not necessarily allegiance. But I have been working under the assumption that all Robinson family members are good guys. I had to Google Lupin's role to determine the president of the HOA was a bad guy (since I've never seen the show).

Also, not sure which two people jj found as redneck... since kaydubs is supposedly redneck, I am redneck and Jam was also redneck... so that is three people... would like to hear what she is thinking, because something does not add up... unless one of us was not seered by her role and instead by duck call, she did say that she combined the info (at least I thought I saw her mention this).

This is what she has said. From her list, Jam was redneck by duck call.

From me, kaydubs and DVMD were rednecks by duck call. If that's all 3 of the rednecks, then the duck call has cleared all 3 of them, meaning they are either actually rednecks, or the duck call doesn't uncover the alias.

 

[Escalla]

I don't know if I agree with this.... I am kind of torn... why say that an item in the description will reveal affiliation if it does not? My guess is that if someone has a cover up name it would be shown with the duck call (the cover name, yuppy).... we just haven't found that person yet. Of course, this is a complete guess... I could be off, but seems odd to specifically state that the duck call reveals affiliation, if it really does not.

Yeah, I dunno....you didn't get John Godwin, redneck (which is what my PM says). So I don't think it reveals it that way with how Allie was found out. I'm a little confused by it though.

Also, I didn't know Jam was a redneck....based on you saying she told you something that made you think she wasn't a wolf, I thought it would have been something more substantial like a Fam member name.

With that.....I'm going to unlynch kaydubs, lynch Jam.

 

[DVMDream]

She used the duck caller on SnS instead of rojo after being effusively confident in SnS not being a wolf. Which makes it seem like she left rojo as an uncertainty on purpose.

I may be way off, but unlynch rojo, lynch DVMD.

I will explain why I used the duck caller on SnS instead of rojo....

1. She is in my group and I have been talking to her, I wanted to be sure I could still freely share information with her.

2. I would rather make certain the person in my group is cleared, since I can strategize with them; I can't with rojo.

3. SnS can be one sneaky wolf... I would not put it past her to fool me. She has before, so better safe than sorry. I was rather confident I was right, but wanted to be sure.

4. I thought jj might just use her role on rojo instead; I was aiming to do the opposite and get both people cleared... It didn't work.

Notice I am not jumping on rojo either... I think there is a possibility there is a cover. Anyway... It does not matter... I was seered all 3 ways... I have known Jam's, SnS' and devyn's roles from the beginning... one of them would have been gone a looong time ago if I had been a wolf.

Sorry, I have not talked to you.. I haven't talked to Jam much since the beginning either. And devyn and SnS are on FB... so it is just easy to talk in FB messages.... that is just how it worked. You are free to PM me if you want to talk, but really... you know as much as I do... well, minus maybe devyn's role...

 

[DVMDream]

Yeah, I dunno....you didn't get John Godwin, redneck (which is what my PM says). So I don't think it reveals it that way with how Allie was found out. I'm a little confused by it though.

Also, I didn't know Jam was a redneck....based on you saying she told you something that made you think she wasn't a wolf, I thought it would have been something more substantial like a Fam member name.

With that.....I'm going to unlynch kaydubs, lynch Jam.

Jam told me she was redneck at around the same time rojo told you he was one... except he had a name to go with his....

Same thing... Just figured there was only one way she could know that redneck=villager and that was if she was actually a redneck.

 

[that redhead]

I'm not a big PMer/share-er, so I'm not at all worried or holding it against you that we haven't been in contact 👍

As for someone having a role you would have offed a long time ago...eh. It's possible that person has shared with someone else in the group and would become suspicious of you after that person was taken out.

I understand your reasoning on SnS, makes a lot of sense. Which makes it even harder than it already is.

Looking at the player list, I think our undercover wolf is either redneck or rojo (per jj's original list). I don't understand how we're supposed to catch an unseerable wolf.


More food for thought - LIS appears to have been moonshined again. Is that a blocking action?

 

[DVMDream]

Yeah, I dunno....you didn't get John Godwin, redneck (which is what my PM says). So I don't think it reveals it that way with how Allie was found out. I'm a little confused by it though.

Also, I didn't know Jam was a redneck....based on you saying she told you something that made you think she wasn't a wolf, I thought it would have been something more substantial like a Fam member name.

With that.....I'm going to unlynch kaydubs, lynch Jam.

Yeah, but allie was not found via the duck caller... I know, because I had the duck caller when allie was found by jj.

The only thing that seems odd is that it did just say John Godwin... I guess I am just assuming that if someone was also a yuppy (along with whatever role/cover they have)... it would add that info in.

 

[that redhead]

The thing is, the wolf has an alias. So I imagine the mods PMed them their role and then said, "Your alias is redneck" or "you will investigate as a redneck". Which means they would know redneck = villager.

 

[that redhead]

Yeah, but allie was not found via the duck caller... I know, because I had the duck caller when allie was found by jj.

The only thing that seems odd is that it did just say John Godwin... I guess I am just assuming that if someone was also a yuppy (along with whatever role/cover they have)... it would add that info in.

So the duck caller did not say Escalla was redneck OR yuppy?...

 

[DVMDream]

So the duck caller did not say Escalla was redneck OR yuppy?...

No, it did not.

 

[Escalla]

I was brainstorming on the way home, but you all seem to have reached the same conclusion, which is that "redneck" is the more likely wolfy cover. There is something else making me think this (just my own thoughts, nothing item or role-related) but suffice to say I'm not feeling as strongly about rojo at this moment.

However, if we're looking at which redneck, my guess is DVMD. Everyone in our group has shared their info with her (except me) and there has been an almost meticulous avoidance of our group in wolf kills - I imagine that if they started dropping off someone would wonder about DVMD knowing their roles and them dying.

She used the duck caller on SnS instead of rojo after being effusively confident in SnS not being a wolf. Which makes it seem like she left rojo as an uncertainty on purpose.

I may be way off, but unlynch rojo, lynch DVMD.

DVMD I don't see being original, even excluding whether the duck call works or not. Could she be converted? Sure.....but very likely not original based on how the wolf lynches have gone. Just my feeling on it.

I do think there's something up with redneck.....and really wondering if the mods would design this so that a wolf would be vulnerable to an item but not the seer. Hard to say.

 

[that redhead]

With it identifying other players as either/or, that's pretty fishy.

Unlynch DVMD
Lynch Escalla

I can't make up my mind here.

 

[DVMDream]

I'm not a big PMer/share-er, so I'm not at all worried or holding it against you that we haven't been in contact 👍

As for someone having a role you would have offed a long time ago...eh. It's possible that person has shared with someone else in the group and would become suspicious of you after that person was taken out.

I understand your reasoning on SnS, makes a lot of sense. Which makes it even harder than it already is.

Looking at the player list, I think our undercover wolf is either redneck or rojo (per jj's original list). I don't understand how we're supposed to catch an unseerable wolf.


More food for thought - LIS appears to have been moonshined again. Is that a blocking action?

So basically.... I am guilty for knowing roles and them not dying, but I would also be guilty for knowing roles AND them dying? 😕

Might I add... I am not the only person in this game that knows the roles of ALL the people in our group.... most of the roles have been revealed on thread... so it is odd you are holding me knowing roles against me, when really just about anyone would be guilty of the same.

Actually, I don't know your role... I don't think... I know Jam, SnS and devyn... because they told me.... and because I investigated SnS last night.

 

[Escalla]

Yeah, but allie was not found via the duck caller... I know, because I had the duck caller when allie was found by jj.

The only thing that seems odd is that it did just say John Godwin... I guess I am just assuming that if someone was also a yuppy (along with whatever role/cover they have)... it would add that info in.

Yeah, I know it was JJ. I just don't know if the item would be the achilles heel vs the seer. Not something I have a whole lot of experience with.

 

[that redhead]

So basically.... I am guilty for knowing roles and them not dying, but I would also be guilty for knowing roles AND them dying? 😕

I'm saying I can see it either way, which makes it not very helpful.

Might I add... I am not the only person in this game that knows the roles of ALL the people in our group.... most of the roles have been revealed on thread... so it is odd you are holding me knowing roles against me, when really just about anyone would be guilty of the same.

Actually, I don't know your role... I don't think... I know Jam, SnS and devyn... because they told me.... and because I investigated SnS last night.

It was simply something that came up in my thought process. And considering that I haven't told anyone my role and those doing the investigating have been kind enough not to share it on-thread, I wouldn't expect you would know it.

 

[Escalla]

With it identifying other players as either/or, that's pretty fishy.

Unlynch DVMD
Lynch Escalla

I can't make up my mind here.

SnS came back as just Sadie.....just say'in.

 

[that redhead]

So SnS and Escalla both came back as JUST role name, not yuppy vs. redneck?

Although SnS was found to be texting a lot (per LIS' info), and if you're going to defend rojo by saying he wasn't the killer, I'd assume that would hold for SnS as well.

Speaking of rojo, I see him lurking hard core. If you really are a villager, your insight might be helpful

 

[DVMDream]

I'm saying I can see it either way, which makes it not very helpful.



It was simply something that came up in my thought process. And considering that I haven't told anyone my role and those doing the investigating have been kind enough not to share it on-thread, I wouldn't expect you would know it.

Nope, don't know it.

Meh... you can be suspicious of me... it is part of the game, I just feel like it was one of those I was damned if I do/damned if I don't ordeals... which is just odd. But it happens.... no big deal.

But hey, if you don't want to trust investigations... I was trying to get FFM out when he did the quick lynch on LIS... became suspicious... even told devyn about it... that I found it really fishy and really felt he was a wolf. So there is that....

 

[that redhead]

But hey, if you don't want to trust investigations... I was trying to get FFM out when he did the quick lynch on LIS... became suspicious... even told devyn about it... that I found it really fishy and really felt he was a wolf. So there is that....

True. But that same defense could be applied to rojo and escalla. Which I guess leaves us jam and kaydubs.

Aksdfjsfbalkacebs.

 

[thedrjojo]

So SnS and Escalla both came back as JUST role name, not yuppy vs. redneck?

Although SnS was found to be texting a lot (per LIS' info), and if you're going to defend rojo by saying he wasn't the killer, I'd assume that would hold for SnS as well.

Speaking of rojo, I see him lurking hard core. If you really are a villager, your insight might be helpful

sitting in a meeting on a conference call...

Like I said, if it was me, i'd lynch the person in my situation. I'm still in shock that people are having enough doubt to not lynch me... i appreciate it and you guys are correct.

Not sure how this will be going.

 

[DVMDream]

True. But that same defense could be applied to rojo and escalla. Which I guess leaves us jam and kaydubs.

Aksdfjsfbalkacebs.

Honestly, I think we are at the point where it could be anyone.... just going to have to go off gut instincts... however, I also believe we are at the point where LIS is probably our biggest asset (hopefully he is not converted/isn't a wolf, I don't think he is to be honest).... we are down to just a few people and him being able to tell what a person is doing is probably better than jj or the duck call. (No offence to jj). So, if there is protection out there... that is where I would aim it to help out the villagers... (I don't want to know if there is, this is just a general statement to hopefully keep a good role in the game).

 

[thedrjojo]

I'd like hear who JJ is suspicious of, whether we are on base to considering Jam/Kaydubs/DVMD...

I personally am highly confused.

Jojo- Justin Martin only by the grace of my word 🙁
Escalla - John Godwin (duck call per DVMD)
Jam - Redneck (duck call per JJ)
Devyn - mayor, likely a Robinson (and not making much of a secret of who she is)
DVMD - Redneck (duck call per Jojo, clear via JJ)
SnS - Sadie (duck call via DVMD, clear via JJ)
TRH - clear via JJ
Kaydubs - Redneck (duck call per Jojo, clear via JJ)
LIS - clear via JJ
JJ - Willie (pretty well trusted at this point in time)

my biggest fear would be if Devyn as mayor is a wolf, but no way what she is an original wolf with her character. Did lupin have a way out, or was it a mayor veto? probably had a lynch avoidance, but could have been a veto. Just musing.

The redneck as a cover would be more convincing if they weren't all called out by the duck call. I'd like to know what robinson members we have in the game, if we are to think that any are a yuppy, but my biggest theory was that the wives were yuppies, and Dwin's death disproved that. The familiar voice is concerning, and it was too early for a convert (Jase) to have been the killer.

I'd be coin flipping it between Kaydubs, DVMD, and Jam at this point in all honesty

 

[DVMDream]

I really don't understand why people think that just the plain rednecks would be automatic suspects over anyone else (there is nothing to back this up either).... really anyone could be a wolf. I would not put it past dyachei to even make a wolf a family member, as she does like to mess with people's minds.

I feel like we need to put aside all role names completely and just look at how people have been playing the game... I think role names are complete crap at this point.... We need to be looking at how people are playing and if they have an actual role ability... not names... I think names mean nothing now.

 

[dyachei]

I would not put it past dyachei to even make a wolf a family member, as she does like to mess with people's minds.

Who me?😎

 

[thedrjojo]

I really don't understand why people think that just the plain rednecks would be automatic suspects over anyone else (there is nothing to back this up either).... really anyone could be a wolf. I would not put it past dyachei to even make a wolf a family member, as she does like to mess with people's minds.

I feel like we need to put aside all role names completely and just look at how people have been playing the game... I think role names are complete crap at this point.... We need to be looking at how people are playing and if they have an actual role ability... not names... I think names mean nothing now.

true.

I'm sitting in class so can't do it, but can we get a tally?

 

[devyn]

I jurst finirshed ketching up..... had my nose in them there bacterial lectures... put me damn near to sleep

Anywho.... either someone here is tellin a real tall tale about thur god given name or I been thinking (bless me poor head)..... mayhaps we sturted out wif only 2 original fecktards (wolves) and then extra conversions mighta been given.... it is the only way I can wrap my ole brain near around all them nights wif no murders and all them people with cleared names..... feckin hell... you'd think we was back in Nam wif all this here fighting....

 

[dyachei]

I'd get you a tally but I'm a little dizzy and disoriented right now and it isn't likely to be correct.