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I agree with ziggy that sov seems wishy-washy.
I mostly agree with dolphins reads so village points there.
I wouldn't be surprised to see a neutral in this game
Or rather its about voting history and post analysis. Wolves often use village-y abilities in a village way for cred.
Seriously dude. You have a long list of who we can't lynch and when we can't lynch them and that's completely ridiculous. If they are wolfy, they get lynched. I think everyone voting for wondering was clear it was due to lack of reads and not lack of posts.
I mostly agree with dolphins reads so village points there.
I wouldn't be surprised to see a neutral in this game
Or rather its about voting history and post analysis. Wolves often use village-y abilities in a village way for cred.
Seriously dude. You have a long list of who we can't lynch and when we can't lynch them and that's completely ridiculous. If they are wolfy, they get lynched. I think everyone voting for wondering was clear it was due to lack of reads and not lack of posts.
Idk maybe it's from a retrospective look but I thought it sounded villagery enough.
Like pippy seems affiliation indicative different or is this just a note? Because last game she was a wolf. So are you reading her as village now?
Is it a ww with ziggy if she doesn't blow someone up? 😉
Why alissa?
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Well that was a real interesting save of doggo there wolves.
This is true. But also I'm surprised no one except wondering moved which makes me extra suspicious of some wolfies trying to save doggo
Dolphin and I are having the same thoughts. (wonder if I'm going to feel like making a tie this game
)Okay but you got to have some thoughts one way or another on people on either the doggo or ziggy train after the ziggy flip.
"Hey look at me I said someone would flip village and they did! proof I'm not a wolf"
wut
Not loving this either
On that topic tell me your opinions this new day about coffee and doggo
Top wolf reads: wonder, caiter, doggo.
Slight wolf reads: cubs, 3m, SOV, Paws, pippy
Neutral: coffee, barks (after the last min vote on the ziggy lynch definitely moved up a sketch point)
I would like up to date reads from 3m, wonder, and paws.
I did like what wondering said about how MDD referred mel as fauxjo before rojo but I'll have to look into the consistency of that claim on iso tomorrow because so far Mrs is pretty far down on my probably village reads.
I will try to iso people tomorrow because my wolf team combinations of these people (saying 4 or 5 wolves) are not meshing as well as I want them to.
Slight wolf reads: cubs, 3m, SOV, Paws, pippy
Neutral: coffee, barks (after the last min vote on the ziggy lynch definitely moved up a sketch point)
I would like up to date reads from 3m, wonder, and paws.
I did like what wondering said about how MDD referred mel as fauxjo before rojo but I'll have to look into the consistency of that claim on iso tomorrow because so far Mrs is pretty far down on my probably village reads.
I will try to iso people tomorrow because my wolf team combinations of these people (saying 4 or 5 wolves) are not meshing as well as I want them to.
ahem. FTFY
I don’t understand this thinking at all. No one here gives seer information enough cred. Sure it is not 100%, but what wolf is going to make up a story like this on day3? It sets up an easy 2 for 1 on wolves when the information is checked on. Late in the game I would be much more cautious, but day 3? I figured there was zero chance this was made up when I was reading, and don’t understand what ziggy did that would outweigh someone posting that kind of info. Sketch a little? Yeah, but that is par for the course. Pippy especially is acting unusually obstinate in these lynches and i dont understand it. Doesn’t seem wolfy to me, but that kind of stubbornn, I just don’t get it.
if Someone does the same reveal with wolf info, you lynch the wolf 100% of the time early in the game. With villager info, you actually could argue it is worth the lynch to check the source of the info...both player and technique, but I didn’t see anyone advocating that...mostly just disbelief. IMO you should believe that info 90% and distrust it 10% this early in the game, whereas y’all seemed about the opposite which is just perplexing to me. As the game goes on those numbers change.
last thought....if you play long enough you get cynical about everything .....but even if you have seen seer-ing fail, how often was that? 1%. 3%. Remember lynching is wrong 75%-80% of the time. Not saying to trust that kind of info completely but to ignore because of feelz? Eh.
<end SOV daily sermon>
Yeah I know it wasn’t a great look, but from my point of view at the time, Alissa came in shouting 10 mins to close with information that seemed like it should have been shared earlier and then ziggy came in moments before close and lynched doggo in what looked like a tie. It all felt really wrong. I didn’t vote because I wasn’t super convinced about the the ziggy lynch and didn’t want to put my vote there and it was far to late to start campaigning anyone else. That’s why it’s annoying to me that ziggy and alissa did this all so late. Hindsight of course is always 20/20.
All info comes late with WW. Why are you annoyed? A wolf would be annoyed. A villager would be happy to have info to go on. I am not convinced in any way Doggo is a wolf, but this is pretty damning if so. If you flip wolf it makes me feel like mrsDD is certainly villager.
it might be time to break some eggs to gainclarity.
@StartingoverVet you're spending more time complaining about my stylistic choices than about saying who you think is wolfy
I'd suggest a reallocation of focus
I'd suggest a reallocation of focus
You were reading it after it happened.
I don't see how this is helpful -- clearly we know the lynch was wrong now, so why spend so much energy scolding village for something that happened 12 hours ago, especially after some of us got some pretty nasty expletives thrown at us for it already?
Regardless it should provide us with some info and I don't see how that's very different from the "eggbreaking" you're pitching today
Its annoying because if they’d presented the information in a timely manner, maybe the ziggy lynch could be prevented...
a villager should be annoyed that a villager was lynched
Scraping the bottom of my neutrals in light of recent posts. Would like to know his official poe.
So what's your ultimate conclusion?
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Gotta love a good monday morning quarterback. I don't care to continue to go at alissa for the info coming late, but I do want to say that I don't think the "it would be dumb for a wolf to do" thing applies because I was not suspicious of alissa, I was suspicious of the info itself and where it was coming from.
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Can anyone comment on SOV and how his current behavior thus far compares to typical villager behavior for him? Because he is sounding more and more wolfy IMO
Yeah I mean, it is what it is and Alissa is pretty village in my reads but just explaining where I’m coming from
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Oh you're fine, I was just saying I wasn't going to continue to harp on the timing because I feel like I did enough of that already last night
Wolfy end of neutral, pushing further into wolf land the more he remains on sideline lynches without doing anything about it.
His voting pattern looks terrible imo right now -- he's been off of main villager wagons every day so far like he's afraid to take a stake in what's going on.
Usually he has lesson moments like these, but they're more evenly distributed between harder reads and pushes.
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I'm rusty on my SOV meta tbh
I appreciate that he's been giving opinions on everyone but it's turned up a whole lotta neutral so I'd like to see some harder stances.Edit:
The insight is helpful. he says things I agree with, but also things that make me question. And he seems to trying to be take a back seat when the lynches come to push and shove
Maybe I’m missing something, why is this an outed wolf confirmation? Or is this a joke?
This is just a note, I feel like her defensiveness is too obvious for it to be a wolf tactic, but I suppose it’s possible. She’s in my neutral pile at the moment.
As far as reads, I’m not going to post a whole long post like usually do in the morning, just cause I feel like yesterday was a whole lot of bickering and didn’t really give me much new info to aid. I have to ISO some people today.
Dubz is now out of my wolf pile and into my neutral- slight wolf pile. I feel like the last few hours of the lynch last night they were too aggressive for it to be wolfish behavior, but it doesn’t change my previous opinions on their behavior.
Snowy I’m leaning village on because they seemed to have put a lot of effort into this game and provide helpful feedback on previous pages, which I feel like a wolf would just lightly skim and comment and move on.
Doggo, is neutral at the moment. I feel like their posts improved yesterday, and I’m not all that supportive of the lynch on them just because they had a lack of posts. A lot of other people also did the first few days too.
AM I am leaning village on.
SOV, Coffee and Catier I want to iso today
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Hotcakestakes:
- wondering continues to acquire wolf points the more time passes without any solid stances
- snowy's one village point for catchup effort is expiring, and i'm increasingly uncomfortable with the fact that her comments are always in retrospect, even when she is here and not that far behind. Would like to see some in-real-time reactions and interactions without the benefit of hindsight.
- need to ISO caiter, i had filed the interaction with AM as their typical headbutting
- decided v/v on coffee/pip interaction
- feeling better about eriyo after all the thoughts she gave yesterday (and i can't help giving a nooblet a point for poking me)
- SOV hanging out a little more neutral after all his neutral reads
Others are about where they were yesterday at this point
- wondering continues to acquire wolf points the more time passes without any solid stances
- snowy's one village point for catchup effort is expiring, and i'm increasingly uncomfortable with the fact that her comments are always in retrospect, even when she is here and not that far behind. Would like to see some in-real-time reactions and interactions without the benefit of hindsight.
- need to ISO caiter, i had filed the interaction with AM as their typical headbutting
- decided v/v on coffee/pip interaction
- feeling better about eriyo after all the thoughts she gave yesterday (and i can't help giving a nooblet a point for poking me)
- SOV hanging out a little more neutral after all his neutral reads
Others are about where they were yesterday at this point
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Another cake: I'm working on my lynch tracker from yesterday and the doggo vote buildup makes me woah uncomfortable
I feel similarly, I get the pushback the zig vote got especially in retrospect obv but not coming from the people who voted dog, idk I think I have to go back and re read the reasoning
I completely agree with this and brought it up yesterday...and was part of the reason I was okay jumping off of her. I brought her up as an options after ISO and suddenly is was a bandwagon with little reason from the peanut gallery.
Looking back I can see the concern esp with the consolidated posts by 3m and cubs. I def think there was something sketchy going on before a bunch of people switched to zig
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How many games has doggo played?
At lynch close, MDD, dolph, coffee, alissa, wondering, and ziggy were on doggo (and I jumped off right before)
Of those, we know ziggy was village
alissa leans pretty village after last night
MDD had a weird echo-y post about doggo minutes after I posted something about her flying under the radar
Im gonna go back and look at the lynch with regard to MDD, dolph, coffee, and wondering
Of those, we know ziggy was village
alissa leans pretty village after last night
MDD had a weird echo-y post about doggo minutes after I posted something about her flying under the radar
Im gonna go back and look at the lynch with regard to MDD, dolph, coffee, and wondering
Gotta hop in the shower because Florida is the worst place imaginable but
contingency lynch Paws
D1 “there are enough votes to lynch Mel so I won’t” (ew), gave me village points for my reaction to the fauxjo but stayed on my vote (why? To avoid getting caught in the crossfire?)
Idek what day yesterday was but the doubling down on Ziggy like 8 minutes before close also made me uncomfortable
I’m starting on page like 21 so I’ll be back with more ~dazzling insights~ after night close assuming I’m not dead
contingency lynch Paws
D1 “there are enough votes to lynch Mel so I won’t” (ew), gave me village points for my reaction to the fauxjo but stayed on my vote (why? To avoid getting caught in the crossfire?)
Idek what day yesterday was but the doubling down on Ziggy like 8 minutes before close also made me uncomfortable
I’m starting on page like 21 so I’ll be back with more ~dazzling insights~ after night close assuming I’m not dead
Hello, pretend I’m here in 2 minutes telling you night is closed
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Oh lort, good luck
When you get it done, will you share it? I don’t have time to put together a lynch tracker and yours have been very helpful
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Assuming I live, I'll post the tracker after night writeup with color updates but these are all the people who voted for doggo throughout the day yesterday
doggo (6) - mrs,
And those first 5 votes came within about a page of each other, which is why I got uncomfortable as I was tallying
Compared to d2:
doggo (2) - alissa, cubs
and d1:
| doggo | 1 | sobsob |
Thank you! Super helpful
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Actually I guess since it's done I can share it now in case I do die, will update colors after
I kinda miss you guys and posting here but maybe staying behind the scenes is best 
have some quotes coming shortly...half the votes didn't have justification
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paws (1) - zig (contingency)
zig (1) - sunbodi (contingency)
sunbodi dies
barks (1) - kota
pippy (1) - paws
alissa (1) - dubz
pippy (0) -paws
alissa (2) - dubz, pip
dina (1) - BC
dina (0) -BC
cubs (1) - BC
MsP (1) - dina
barks (2) - kota, covfefe
Mrs (1) - alissa
alissa (1) - dubz,pip
JJ (2) - AM, pip
MsP (2) - dina, dolphin
barks (3) - kota, covfefe, cubs
JJ (3) - AM, pip, eriyo
JJ (4) - AM, pip, eriyo, Mrs
BC (1) - sobsob
Mrs (2) - alissa, paws
JJ (3) - AM,pip, eriyo, Mrs
genny (1) - pip
genny (2) - pip, 3m
3m(1) - barks
Mrs (3) - alissa, paws, caiter
barks (2) -kota, covfefe, cubs
dubz (1) - kota
MsP (1) - dina,dolphin
mrs (4) - alissa, paws, caiter, dolphin
mrs (3) - alissa, paws, caiter,dolphin
MsP (0) -dina, dolphin
alissa (2) - dubz,pip, dina
mrs (4) - alissa, paws, caiter,dolphin, genny
genny (3) - pip, 3m, snowy
mrs (3) - alissa, paws, caiter, dolphin, genny
doggo (1) - alissa
mrs (4) - alissa, paws, caiter, dolphin, genny, doggo
mrs (3) - alissa, paws, caiter, dolphin, genny, doggo
JJ (4) - AM,pip, eriyo, Mrs, genny
alissa (1) - dubz,pip, dina
genny (4) - pip, 3m, snowy, dina
alissa (0) - dubz, pip, dina
genny (5) - pip, 3m, snowy, dina, dubz
genny (4) - pip, 3m, snowy, dina,dubz
genny (3) -pip, 3m, snowy, dina, dubz
barks (3) -kota, covfefe, cubs, dubz
genny (4) -pip, 3m, snowy, dina, dubz, JJ
ziggy (1) - pip
JJ (5) - AM,pip, eriyo, Mrs, genny, dolphin
3m(0) -barks
JJ (6) - AM,pip, eriyo, Mrs, genny, dolphin, barks
JJ (5) - AM,pip, eriyo, Mrs, genny, dolphin, barks
paws (2) - ziggy, Mrs
cubs (0) -BC
barks (4) -kota, covfefe, cubs, dubz, BC
JJ (4) - AM,pip, eriyo, Mrs, genny, dolphin, barks
dina (1) - genny
ziggy (0) -pip
dina (2) - genny, pip
barks (5) -kota, covfefe, cubs, dubz, BC, doggo
JJ (3) - AM,pip, eriyo, Mrs, genny, dolphin, barks
genny (5) -pip, 3m, snowy, dina, dubz, JJ, barks
genny (4) -pip, 3m, snowy, dina, dubz, JJ, barks
barks (6) -kota, covfefe, cubs, dubz, BC, doggo, JJ
barks (5) -kota, covfefe, cubs, dubz, BC, doggo, JJ
MsP (1) -dina, dolphin, doggo
barks (4) -kota, covfefe, cubs, dubz, BC, doggo, JJ
paws (3) - ziggy, mrs, BC
barks (3) -kota, covfefe, cubs, dubz, BC, doggo, JJ
mrs (4) - alissa, paws, caiter, dolphin, genny, doggo, covfefe
barks (2) -kota, covfefe, cubs, dubz, BC, doggo, JJ
doggo (2) - alissa, cubs
barks (1) -kota, covfefe, cubs, dubz, BC, doggo, JJ
genny (3) -pip, 3m, snowy, dina, dubz, JJ, barks
dina (3) - genny, pip, snowy
barks (0) -kota, covfefe, cubs, dubz, BC, doggo, JJ
mrs (3) - alissa, paws, caiter, dolphin, genny, doggo, covfefe
dina (4) - genny, pip, snowy, covfefe
JJ (2) - AM,pip, eriyo, Mrs, genny, dolphin, barks
dina (5) - genny, pip, snowy, covfefe, dolphin
alissa (1) - dubz
dina (6) - genny, pip, snowy, covfefe, dolphin, JJ
zig (1) - sunbodi (contingency)
sunbodi dies
barks (1) - kota
pippy (1) - paws
alissa (1) - dubz
pippy (0) -
alissa (2) - dubz, pip
dina (1) - BC
dina (0) -
cubs (1) - BC
MsP (1) - dina
barks (2) - kota, covfefe
Mrs (1) - alissa
alissa (1) - dubz,
JJ (2) - AM, pip
MsP (2) - dina, dolphin
barks (3) - kota, covfefe, cubs
JJ (3) - AM, pip, eriyo
JJ (4) - AM, pip, eriyo, Mrs
BC (1) - sobsob
Mrs (2) - alissa, paws
JJ (3) - AM,
genny (1) - pip
genny (2) - pip, 3m
3m(1) - barks
Mrs (3) - alissa, paws, caiter
barks (2) -
dubz (1) - kota
MsP (1) - dina,
mrs (4) - alissa, paws, caiter, dolphin
mrs (3) - alissa, paws, caiter,
MsP (0) -
alissa (2) - dubz,
mrs (4) - alissa, paws, caiter,
genny (3) - pip, 3m, snowy
mrs (3) -
doggo (1) - alissa
mrs (4) -
mrs (3) -
JJ (4) - AM,
alissa (1) - dubz,
genny (4) - pip, 3m, snowy, dina
alissa (0) -
genny (5) - pip, 3m, snowy, dina, dubz
genny (4) - pip, 3m, snowy, dina,
genny (3) -
barks (3) -
genny (4) -
ziggy (1) - pip
JJ (5) - AM,
3m(0) -
JJ (6) - AM,
JJ (5) - AM,
paws (2) - ziggy, Mrs
cubs (0) -
barks (4) -
JJ (4) - AM,
dina (1) - genny
ziggy (0) -
dina (2) - genny, pip
barks (5) -
JJ (3) - AM,
genny (5) -
genny (4) -
barks (6) -
barks (5) -
MsP (1) -
barks (4) -
paws (3) - ziggy, mrs, BC
barks (3) -
mrs (4) -
barks (2) -
doggo (2) - alissa, cubs
barks (1) -
genny (3) -
dina (3) - genny, pip, snowy
barks (0) -
mrs (3) -
dina (4) - genny, pip, snowy, covfefe
JJ (2) - AM,
dina (5) - genny, pip, snowy, covfefe, dolphin
alissa (1) - dubz
dina (6) - genny, pip, snowy, covfefe, dolphin, JJ
D3
Contingencies:
Mrs (1) - alissa
dubz (1) - kota
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dubz (2) - kota, ziggy
dubz (3) - kota, zig, coffee
dubz (2) - kota, zig,
coffee (1) - pip
coffee (2) - pip, caiter
dubz (1) - kota,
zig (1) - dubz
dubz (2) - kota,
coffee (1) - pip,
mrs (2) - alissa, caiter
doggo (1) - coffee
doggo (0) -
pippy (1) - coffee
wondering (1) - AM
wondering (2) - AM, snowy
eriyo (1) - cubs
doggo (1) -
doggo (2) -
doggo (3) -
pippy (0) -
doggo (4) -
doggo (5) -
wondering (3) - AM, snowy, BC
coffee (2) - pip,
doggo (4) -
3m (1) - SOV
coffee (1) -
zig (2) - dubz, pip
zig (3) - dubz, pip, JJ
mrs (1) - alissa,
zig (4) - dubz, pip, JJ, caiter
zig (5) - dubz, pip, JJ, caiter, doggo
dubz (1) -
zig (6) - dubz, pip, JJ, caiter, doggo, kota
caiter (1) - eriyo
paws (1) - wondering
zig (7) - dubz, pip, JJ, caiter, doggo, kota, paws
mrs (0) -
doggo (5) -
paws (0) -
doggo (6) -
dubz (0) -
doggo (7) -
doggo (6) -
coffee (0) -
zig (8) - dubz, pip, JJ, caiter, doggo, kota, paws, barks
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my original post about doggo that lead to an apparent bandwagon within a few pages
this was all of five minutes later. very echo-y
says multiple times that doggo is on top of wolf reads list, but never votes thereGuess you missed the doggo wolf read as well as the village reads. Certain wolf reads I plead the @finnickthedog because I dont want them known quite yet. But if we can only play by your rules then. You dont seem to have a problem with AM playing by hers.
no reasoning at all, just a lynch vote
says that she doesnt feel good about a doggo lynch, puts vote there anyway
another mention of doggo being top of wolf reads, but no vote
this bothered me a lot. it felt very random, wishy-washy and bandwagon-y from sov
wishy-washy is how a lot of his posts are coming off to me
still confused about this realization
realization
doesn't think doggo is wolfy
ends up putting vote on doggo despite not thinking wolfy because of alissa's reveal about the moonpool? i didnt really get this justification
essentially these posts make me feel the worst about sov, dolphin, and cubs
Looks like I forgot him in my long post. He is neutral leaning wolf to me.
When I flip village, this is not going to look good for Alissa. I do still have her leaning village after what happened last night
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It seems your 2 minutes is like my 2 minutes
This is interesting, especially since Doggo didn't seem to be a suspect earlier in the day
Going to do some ISOing now
I was ready to vote alissa based off of iso.. not for anything that stuck out but not I didn't glean much from her thoughts on thread which seems like a bad sign. I see a tunnel on Mrsdrdr, various times she has mentioned me, some defending of ZJ, and the times she has brought up clans which seems important to her
After last night and how she stuck up for ZJ I don't know. If she was in a clever pack they might have told her to reveal that information about ZJ last minute so people couldn't process it and change their vote (or that could be her own idea within the pack). At the same time, it felt genuine, and there wouldn't even be much point to that (withholding the information) unless it was meant to protect doggo by not giving them enough time to react, therefore if doggo isn't a wolf it is a nil point
After last night and how she stuck up for ZJ I don't know. If she was in a clever pack they might have told her to reveal that information about ZJ last minute so people couldn't process it and change their vote (or that could be her own idea within the pack). At the same time, it felt genuine, and there wouldn't even be much point to that (withholding the information) unless it was meant to protect doggo by not giving them enough time to react, therefore if doggo isn't a wolf it is a nil point
I will point out I was the first one on doggo
I didn't feel good about a doggo lynch specifically because none of the other players on her were in my village pile
No one has ever seen 3M wolf, so maybe she's just great at it immediately, but I thought her reactions last night seemed natural and consistent with her village self.
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