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DAY 7 Official ~So Much Drama in the L B C~ Lynch Tally

Mel (3) - Lawper, Mixalot, Moose
Bryndi (1) - Sporty
allie (1) - paws

~Kick a little something for the G's~

5/12 voting :scared:

~L a i d . b a c k. ~

Lynch close 10 pm EST (10.5 hrs)
 
StayingPositive2017 said:
Now that we know that she was a tracker, in wondering if this was an attempt to communicate without outing her power role.

LotF doubling down on the Mel vote?

Mixy raised flags for me yesterday but that would be a convert. Mel had weird logic yesterday about why mixy wasn't a convert
Technically can't discount the rez as possible convert

@Melchizedek can you explain this further
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So you're suggesting that LotF tracked me doing a kill? When exactly would that have been?
N1- Sporty dies - If I had done the kill and LotF tracked me, why wait til yesterday to put a vote on me?
N2 - No kill
N3- No kill
N4 - Dolphin killed - Okay she could have tracked me then. But she was MIA the next day so can't really extrapolate.
N5 Kara killed - I started picking up heat why would I do a kill this night? The next day (yesterday) LotF doesn't even take a hard stance or really push my lynch. If I was a wolf and there was a possibility of a tie between and someone else, if she had hard evidence, she would have stepped up.

Look at my comments about mixy v. MOOSE again. I was saying that if one was the convert the other can't be. Individually they each have good reasons to be the convert, but people seemed to get the idea that they were PM'ing in wolf chat and accidentally let it slip. If thats the case they would both have to be converts. Which I don't see how thats possible.

Yes coffee said she doesn't count for village numbers. Which means she's chaos or neutral. I'm thinking the former. Either way I don't mind losing her over someone I think is village.
 
Sporty and mixy would be one category more village each if not for possible conversion. Not convinced conversion has actually happened. Coffee and moose would change depending on a Mel flip
Lawper
bryndi AM
Sporty*
Mixy* coffee tart yk
Moose
Allie mel
 
StayingPositive2017 said:
Ok BIG post, my apologies. I fell asleep on the couch last night and my wife didn't have the heart to wake me. She also didn't know I needed to be awake for Lynch close, cuz she's not crazy about me obsessing over this game lol.


Now that we know that she was a tracker, in wondering if this was an attempt to communicate without outing her power role.

Hmmmm. Do Masons keep talking if one gets converted?

Irrelevant now, but I had her at wolf lean. Probably would have voted here last night had I not fallen asleep. Clearly that would have been wrong

LotF doubling down on the Mel vote?

Mel, Allie are suspected by our tracker. Mel has stated he's a neighborizor but I guess that could be a cover ability.
@youngkal still not contributing enough
Mixy raised flags for me yesterday but that would be a convert. Mel had weird logic yesterday about why mixy wasn't a convert
Technically can't discount the rez as possible convert

You know he's good at pocketing in pm, yes? (I still love you Mel, but am sad you haven't pmed with me... Afraid I'd catch on?)

Off Mel to coffee then votes cray. Super weird

Bolded the part about Allie on her suspect list

Well I was feeling a lot better about Mel and thought I was crazy tunnelling. Now I'm wondering was I on to something and Mel tried to discourage it? Cray even had a reason why moose might have legit vanilla'd wz

I think I quoted this to remind myself how the tie was broken and for reads/thoughts on allie

She did? Thought she was on cray the whole day?

Then saying Mel drove it. Maybe you are chaos, not coffee

See my question above about not being Masons anymore

When has comfort ever played into sharing reads?

Making sense. Wondering if you really are chaos?

We've had multiple multiples, so I would say high?

No. Kara had a seer role. This is wrong.

@Melchizedek can you explain this further

But then you literally voted for her over Mel, someone you actually had had concerns about.

I could vote allieh or Mel today. I'm going to start with Allie so people have options to discuss vs a train on Mel
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Lynch allieh
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I am aware he is good at pocketing. But as a wolf don't you think he would have thrown a bigger stink being the leading candidate yesterday? I wolfed with him once (not to say he couldn't change it up), and there was a lot of caps lock and shouting on thread lol.
 
Melchizedek said:
So you're suggesting that LotF tracked me doing a kill? When exactly would that have been?
N1- Sporty dies - If I had done the kill and LotF tracked me, why wait til yesterday to put a vote on me?
N2 - No kill
N3- No kill
N4 - Dolphin killed - Okay she could have tracked me then. But she was MIA the next day so can't really extrapolate.
N5 Kara killed - I started picking up heat why would I do a kill this night? The next day (yesterday) LotF doesn't even take a hard stance or really push my lynch. If I was a wolf and there was a possibility of a tie between and someone else, if she had hard evidence, she would have stepped up.

Look at my comments about mixy v. MOOSE again. I was saying that if one was the convert the other can't be. Individually they each have good reasons to be the convert, but people seemed to get the idea that they were PM'ing in wolf chat and accidentally let it slip. If thats the case they would both have to be converts. Which I don't see how thats possible.

Yes coffee said she doesn't count for village numbers. Which means she's chaos or neutral. I'm thinking the former. Either way I don't mind losing her over someone I think is village.
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LotF did and said a lot that was confusing to me. Maybe she was gone and didn't get results for a day or two. Maybe you did the kill the second night because you didn't expect to be tracked two nights in a row.

I have never thought moose was a convert. Thought original.

Glad to have more clarity on coffee (well at least more info)

There is a reason I'm not voting for you Mel. I'm not convinced.

Tell me your thoughts on Allie and yk?

Explain why you said bryndi was lying. Are you backtracking on that?
 
Animal Midwife said:
@CoffeeQuestionMark Could you vote independently today so I know you're still playing for the village?

@Lawper @youngkal @SportPonies What do you think of each other?
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I'm null on them. Play seems par for the course for both of them, and I'm also usually null on them until late game. Was going to iso at some point, but I'm more concerned about that everyone is ignoring the fact bryndi lied and then tried to cover it up this morning. Including bryndi. She really seems like she's trying to backpedal out of a mistake.
 
StayingPositive2017 said:
I didn't understand that. I thought it was clarified
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The way I'm reading it, no.

Bryndi specifically yesterday said that her role allows her to PM a limited number of people. She then also said Mel also has a PM-type role when questioned. Mel came on this morning, said something along the lines of, "thanks for trying to cover for me, but don't lie," and then bryndi lied again and said, "no, I only said that I PMd with Kara(?) on the day that we could open PMs."

But she did not say that. When I questioned how she had messaged with Mel, her reply was:
bryndiana.jones said:
That's my ability
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StayingPositive2017 said:
Hmmmm. Do Masons keep talking if one gets converted?

See my question above about not being Masons anymore
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IDK about when @bryndiana.jones and cray were masons but our pm when we were upgraded specifically said once one of us were killed and rezzed we couldn't pm anymore. Regardless of affiliation.
 
StayingPositive2017 said:
I didn't understand that. I thought it was clarified
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Putting aside all other assumptions you could pull from the situation, there's at least a few hard truth facts coming from this situation:
1. Yesterday bryndi lied and stated that her ability was to open PMs with other people. Mel shot that down this morning and said it was his ability and told bryndi not to lie to cover for him
2. Today bryndi lied and stated that she never said it was her ability, only that she opened a PM with Kara on the day she was allowed to.
 
SportPonies said:
The way I'm reading it, no.

Bryndi specifically yesterday said that her role allows her to PM a limited number of people. She then also said Mel also has a PM-type role when questioned. Mel came on this morning, said something along the lines of, "thanks for trying to cover for me, but don't lie," and then bryndi lied again and said, "no, I only said that I PMd with Kara(?) on the day that we could open PMs."

But she did not say that. When I questioned how she had messaged with Mel, her reply was:
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Which is true. I never lied to you guys. Look at how I continue to answer Allie's, then Moose's questions. Then compare that to Mel's long post. They match. @Melchizedek
 
SportPonies said:
Putting aside all other assumptions you could pull from the situation, there's at least a few hard truth facts coming from this situation:
1. Yesterday bryndi lied and stated that her ability was to open PMs with other people. Mel shot that down this morning and said it was his ability and told bryndi not to lie to cover for him
2. Today bryndi lied and stated that she never said it was her ability, only that she opened a PM with Kara on the day she was allowed to.
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But Mel said in that paragraph that she can pm, that he was brending rules by having her pm him. @Melchizedek please clarify

@bryndiana.jones is your ability to pm?
 
StayingPositive2017 said:
Tell me your thoughts on Allie and yk?

Explain why you said bryndi was lying. Are you backtracking on that?
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Allie - I had her as a null to slight wolf lean when I ISO'd her two days ago. Since then I haven't seen anything that pushes her village.
YK - I've been saying for a while now that I would like to see YK lynched. Everyone's seemed to have turned a blind eye toward that

bryndiana.jones said:
Mel, I don't want to out you with your ability as well. I'm just going to claim that I initiated both PMs, unless you want to claim the D2 one
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This from PM^^ is why I thought Bryndy was going to lie on thread. I didn't read the thread thoroughly, having just gotten back from a social event.
 
Animal Midwife said:
@CoffeeQuestionMark Could you vote independently today so I know you're still playing for the village?

@Lawper @youngkal @SportPonies What do you think of each other?
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Lawpy doesn’t seem to be posting as much has he has in the past on thread. Even when he spectates he is blowing up chat. Makes me question if he has a side area where he’s doing this or if he is more controlled. No solid lean but slightly, like half a point wolf lean. Just based on number of post

If we were looking at players who could be converted i think sporty or Mixy would be a good choice but i haven’t seen anything too suspicious so i have her more null currently.
 
StayingPositive2017 said:
But Mel said in that paragraph that she can pm, that he was brending rules by having her pm him. @Melchizedek please clarify

@bryndiana.jones is your ability to pm?
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I'm either not understanding this, or something majorly fishy is going on. I'm going to sit on this vote until I have a moment to really go back and read over these posts hard. I don't feel right about them.
 
Melchizedek said:
Allie - I had her as a null to slight wolf lean when I ISO'd her two days ago. Since then I haven't seen anything that pushes her village.
YK - I've been saying for a while now that I would like to see YK lynched. Everyone's seemed to have turned a blind eye toward that


This from PM^^ is why I thought Bryndy was going to lie on thread. I didn't read the thread thoroughly, having just gotten back from a social event.
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Is your main reason for wanting me lynched because you think that WZ wouldn’t try to clear anyone using that list and you think I’m trying to trap you all in to lynching from there even though i haven’t really pushed anything from there that wasn’t already being pursued?
 
Melchizedek said:
Allie - I had her as a null to slight wolf lean when I ISO'd her two days ago. Since then I haven't seen anything that pushes her village.
YK - I've been saying for a while now that I would like to see YK lynched. Everyone's seemed to have turned a blind eye toward that
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I could vote YK.

With that being said, I'd love for you all to lynch me. I'm really frustrated and clearly having a sucky game...and combined with certain attitudes I'm just not having fun. I would have liked to stick around to see whatever mechanics haven't been revealed yet because I really like that mechanism but if you all lynch me I'm not going to fight it. And my role doesn't really help village anyway.
 
SportPonies said:
I'm either not understanding this, or something majorly fishy is going on. I'm going to sit on this vote until I have a moment to really go back and read over these posts hard. I don't feel right about them.
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The "bending the rules" part, is that Mel can only add up to two people (not including himself) to a PM. I drop into "existing" PMs that are open on the day I choose. It's a loophole to get the PM to 4 people total
 
bryndiana.jones said:
The "bending the rules" part, is that Mel can only add up to two people (not including himself) to a PM. I drop into "existing" PMs that are open on the day I choose. It's a loophole to get the PM to 4 people total
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What are the mechanics behind your ability? How often can you use it, how do you decide on or end up in a PM?
 
@StayingPositive2017
@SportPonies

I can open a PM every night. Once a PM is open I can add someone to it for a max of three people (including me) the PM stays open for one cycle. Bryndy can insert herself into an existing PM, but says she was given the stipulation she can't insert herself into the wolf chat. Once it was looking like Dubz was a confirmed wolf, BJ and I contemplated asking people to let Dubz live so that we could hijack wolf chat with BJ's ability. BJ says the mods told her she wouldn't be able to do that.

youngkal said:
Is your main reason for wanting me lynched because you think that WZ wouldn’t try to clear anyone using that list and you think I’m trying to trap you all in to lynching from there even though i haven’t really pushed anything from there that wasn’t already being pursued?
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No I could vote you because thats the ONLY useful thing you've said and at this point I have yet to see you take a hard stance against anyone or bring up original analysis.
 
So bryndi is basically a peeping tom? That's not wolfy at all. @bryndiana.jones have you already disclosed how you've used your role every day? If so I'll go in search of it but if not, it would be nice to know.
 
allieh8607 said:
So bryndi is basically a peeping tom? That's not wolfy at all. @bryndiana.jones have you already disclosed how you've used your role every day? If so I'll go in search of it but if not, it would be nice to know.
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So @bryndiana.jones if you can't go into wolf chat, and none of us have pms aside from Mel, what chats can you go into?
 
SportPonies said:
What are the mechanics behind your ability? How often can you use it, how do you decide on or end up in a PM?
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I can only use it twice, so I only have one day left to use. I don't decide on particular PMs, I tell the mods the night before I want to use it, then the next day it automatically puts me in all open PMs, excluding wolf chat, for one whole cycle. That's why Mel tagged me two nights ago telling me to use it.
 
bryndiana.jones said:
I can only use it twice, so I only have one day left to use. I don't decide on particular PMs, I tell the mods the night before I want to use it, then the next day it automatically puts me in all open PMs, excluding wolf chat, for one whole cycle. That's why Mel tagged me two nights ago telling me to use it.
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Oh then I totally misunderstood. I thought you had to pick a person and then you got dropped into their PM if they had one.
 
allieh8607 said:
So bryndi is basically a peeping tom? That's not wolfy at all. @bryndiana.jones have you already disclosed how you've used your role every day? If so I'll go in search of it but if not, it would be nice to know.
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Here is the extent of my communications:
D2- Mel opens a PM with me (doesn't count as my ability because I have to ask to use mine)
Open PM night- I open one with KB, who was already asleep so we didn't get to chat, Cray opened one with me
Yesterday- I had asked to use my ability yesterday and was able to chat with Mel and AM all day

I think people should stop looking at wolfy vs village roles, because that hasn't done crap for us so far.
 
StayingPositive2017 said:
So @bryndiana.jones if you can't go into wolf chat, and none of us have pms aside from Mel, what chats can you go into?
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I think I would have been able to chat with the masons had sporty not died, and their PM been closed. I asked the mods yesterday why I wasn't added to the mason's chat yet, and she said she couldn't tell me. Later Mixy told us their PM had been closed.
 
SportPonies said:
I'm null on them. Play seems par for the course for both of them, and I'm also usually null on them until late game. Was going to iso at some point, but I'm more concerned about that everyone is ignoring the fact bryndi lied and then tried to cover it up this morning. Including bryndi. She really seems like she's trying to backpedal out of a mistake.
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What mistake? I don't know how many times to say I. Didn't. Lie.

SportPonies said:
The way I'm reading it, no.

Bryndi specifically yesterday said that her role allows her to PM a limited number of people. She then also said Mel also has a PM-type role when questioned. Mel came on this morning, said something along the lines of, "thanks for trying to cover for me, but don't lie," and then bryndi lied again and said, "no, I only said that I PMd with Kara(?) on the day that we could open PMs."

But she did not say that. When I questioned how she had messaged with Mel, her reply was:
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Mel opened a PM with Kara on his own with his ability, I opened one with her on the "open PM" night, and I think he thought I was trying to claim his PMing her @Melchizedek is how this started?

SportPonies said:
Putting aside all other assumptions you could pull from the situation, there's at least a few hard truth facts coming from this situation:
1. Yesterday bryndi lied and stated that her ability was to open PMs with other people. Mel shot that down this morning and said it was his ability and told bryndi not to lie to cover for him
2. Today bryndi lied and stated that she never said it was her ability, only that she opened a PM with Kara on the day she was allowed to.
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We can both PM people. Mine is much more restricted, and I cannot open a PM out of thin air, it has to exist already (except for "open PM" night).
 
@youngkal I would like to see more of you today, because you have been more quiet than you usually are, and I could vote here today. Could also vote for tart, since my gut feelings seem to be better than my post analysis
 
@Animal Midwife i believe one of the masons is wolf. I suspect there is at least one wolf within Paws, Lawper, and Allie. Despite that Mel would really like to see me lynched, I do not believe he is wolf as such did not lynch him yesterday :shrug:

I am inclined to vote Allie based on how things went down last night. For now it seems like a good bet.

lynch Allie
 
Probably not going to be around much the rest of the day.

lynch YK

:banana:
 
I don't like how YK is coming on almost exclusively when she is tagged. She has done this before and been village but her content has been low and she could be hiding behind what she knows is her typical village play.

lynch YK
 
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